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Kain vs Hellsing's Alucard

To hell with animoo. Kain wins.

this has prob been done nearly as much as Dante vs Kain

Alucard's Fanboys Win.

Alucard wins because he can beat Silver Surfer and Superman for a majority.

alucard ftw.

they both become drinking buds

Did'nt even know they made a Hellsing game.

They didn't.

Is Kain the one from Soul reaver? Can't he just rip Alucards soul out of his body?

does alucard have a soul?

Kain could prob destroy Alucard in countless ways, which is why ime not interested in this thread, it looks easy.

^Couldn't Alucard just do the same?

No unless they both have exactley the same powers, but I doubt that.

Alucard is more impressive i think..

Kain wins.

Alucard, because I played most of the Kain games, and well... Alucard does recover a little better.. or a lot.

Originally posted by Shaggs
Alucard, because I played most of the Kain games, and well... Alucard does recover a little better.. or a lot. Huh?

He isn't wrong, few can rival Alucard's healing factor.

If I am not mistaken, he was like shot into a past, and just like came back.

Kain just dies, and then sleeps for like 1000 years.

While that is true, Kain also has a variety of powers Alucard cannot screw with.

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
He isn't wrong, few can rival Alucard's healing factor. You can't permanently kill Kain unless you have the reaver.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You can't permanently kill Kain unless you have the reaver. A misconception.

Its actually nothing can Kill Kain, not even the reaver.

Although Alucard cannot defeat Kain regardless of that little nasty, he would have his soul ripped apart while frozen in time AND be mind raped.

Nothing can kill Alucard either. Trust me, a LARGE number of instances have arisen where they tried to kill him, and each time he just came back.

meh, depends what your attacking him with, Kain is officially unkillable, Alucard probably only seems unkillable. Does anything actually hint he is canonically unkillable? Ime sure taking his soul/souls will destroy him. And freezing him in time would give Kain the win.

Kain is only unkillable due to a plot device.

Regardless, however, Kain isn't one to fvck around with. I would say Kain pulls some Soul Steal FTW

Kain can only soul steal if he hits him with the Reaver, which would never happen.

That said, time slow ftw.

Whats stopping Kain from just Tking him in the air? then continue to ravage him with other powers. Or simply do a TK blood/Blood shower and drain Alucard dry, giving Kain all of Alucards powers as well.

Why is this not even locked ?

alucard had so many souls inside him that it too him over 30 years to kill them all so that he cud come back from schrodinger's quantum/dimensional dispersal. not only cud the reaver not absorb that many souls at once, but the fact that even imaginary space/dimensional dispersion was succesful in actually killing him makes me think that kain cant do anything to kill him either even with the limited time freeze. powerwise, its hard to say.

Whoah w8 a min, what makes you say the Reaver could not take that many souls at once? Raziel can take as many souls as he likes within the area when he opens his cowl, so unless each soul is seperate and floating around Kain would just have to hit Alucard more than one in that case....if ofc the Souls are all within Alucard then he will be drained.

As I said, Kain would just drain Alucards blood and take his powers for his own, and Kain wins if Alucard is frozen in time, forgetting the fact Kain would destroy him with most of his other powers while Alucard is frozen and at his mercy, Alucard would still lose and Kain win due to incapacitation victory.

infinite fallacy. there have never been billions of souls arouns raziel, and even he takes time to absorb them. just because a character didnt have a probalem cutting a rock doesnt mean they can by default, cut a planet.

each soul IS seperate inside alucard as it took him 30 years to kill them all going at the fastest pace he cud. hellsing vampires dont work on the same principles, kain can not take his abilities since he isnt part of LOKverse. ability swap doesnt work in crossoverse. none of kain's powers can much harm alucard other than freeze time. and seeing that alucard survived for 30 years being turned into IMAGINARY NUMBERS, there isnt much kain can do with his time freeze. and time freeze isnt permanent, it has a time limit reletive to kain, and it isnt freeze ANYWAY, it just slows down time to snail's pace.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its actually nothing can Kill Kain, not even the reaver.

Where does it say this? If your saying Kain=Invincible, then Invincible & Immorality are two different things.

Prince: "You are immortal, but your not invincible. " Kain could probably be killed by jumping in water. Kain could be obliterated by holy light energy. Kain is immortal no doubt but that doesn't mean unkillable.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
infinite fallacy. there have never been billions of souls arouns raziel, and even he takes time to absorb them. just because a character didnt have a probalem cutting a rock doesnt mean they can by default, cut a planet.

each soul IS seperate inside alucard as it took him 30 years to kill them all going at the fastest pace he cud. hellsing vampires dont work on the same principles, kain can not take his abilities since he isnt part of LOKverse. ability swap doesnt work in crossoverse. none of kain's powers can much harm alucard other than freeze time. and seeing that alucard survived for 30 years being turned into IMAGINARY NUMBERS, there isnt much kain can do with his time freeze. and time freeze isnt permanent, it has a time limit reletive to kain, and it isnt freeze ANYWAY, it just slows down time to snail's pace.

First you would have to outline a reason for Raziel having problems absorbing souls, he can absorb many many souls all at once with ease, he just opens his cowl and their gone, simple, only in Kains reaver its even more effective because he is more of an imprisoned ravaged soul and has little idea of limit or amount he would require.

As you said, inside Alucard, stop trying to grasp straws, their all inside him as I imagined by your words. Erm wtf? Kain cant take his abilities jsut because he is not part of the same verse? what rubbish, ok Kain cannot be harmed or effected by any other universes abilities because he is not part of the same verse!! durlaughultimate fail....

Incapaciate freezes time, your talking about the time reaver. Either way its incapaciation and Kain could sitll just bleed Alucard into nothingness and do whatever he pleases to the thing.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Where does it say this? If your saying Kain=Invincible, then Invincible & Immorality are two different things.

Prince: "You are immortal, but your not invincible. " Kain could probably be killed by jumping in water. Kain could be obliterated by holy light energy. Kain is immortal no doubt but that doesn't mean unkillable.

In the LOK games, Kains spirit and soul cannot be destroyed because time will not let it be so, since time is an abstract then it is a non factor, it is simple default rule of Kain.

Actual evidence can be seen when he had his heart and soul ripped from his body and was walking about not long after.....if your thinking about destroying completly his body then it would not work because his destined to be the saviour of Nosgoth. Not to mention blasting his body to nothing will still leave his very powerful vampiric soul and Kain could then possess his destroyer.

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Alucard's powers;

Immortality-it's nigh impossible to damage his health

Regeneration-He has come back from nothing but a puddle of blood

Superhuman senses-All of his senses are inhanced greatly

Incredible accuracy-He's shot people from LONG distances, while looking the other way

Superhuman strength-Ripped people and other things apart with ease

Superhuman speed-He can move faster than the eye can see

Intangibility-He has passed through walls, and other solid objects

The ability to defy gravity to a uncertain limit-He has jumped great distances and walked up vertical surfaces

Manipulation of shadows-He has made shadows into physical objects

Shape shifting-He can take on different forms, and can harden his skin for extreme protection

Weather control. Only used once, but he covered a town in fog

Teleportation-Exactly what it says

Telekinesis-Obvious

Mind reading- He has read minds

Mind control- To a limited extent of course

Summoning familiars- Alucard can use the souls he absorbed as familiars.

Damage resistance-Not only is he not harmed by sunlight or silver, he can ONLY be harmed by holy weapons.

These aren't even all of his powers, just the ones he would need to beat Kain.

Originally posted by Burning thought
In the LOK games, Kains spirit and soul cannot be destroyed because time will not let it be so, since time is an abstract then it is a non factor, it is simple default rule of Kain.

Actual evidence can be seen when he had his heart and soul ripped from his body and was walking about not long after.....if your thinking about destroying completly his body then it would not work because his destined to be the saviour of Nosgoth. Not to mention blasting his body to nothing will still leave his very powerful vampiric soul and Kain could then possess his destroyer.

Your sprit/soul can't be destroyed anyway. Hmmm, I never thought that his sprit would still be there. Well, Kain can still be destroyed same goes to Alucard.

Originally posted by Shaggs
Alucard's powers;

Immortality-it's nigh impossible to damage his health

Regeneration-He has come back from nothing but a puddle of blood

Superhuman senses-All of his senses are inhanced greatly

Incredible accuracy-He's shot people from LONG distances, while looking the other way

Superhuman strength-Ripped people and other things apart with ease

Superhuman speed-He can move faster than the eye can see

Intangibility-He has passed through walls, and other solid objects

The ability to defy gravity to a uncertain limit-He has jumped great distances and walked up vertical surfaces

Manipulation of shadows-He has made shadows into physical objects

Shape shifting-He can take on different forms, and can harden his skin for extreme protection

Weather control. Only used once, but he covered a town in fog

Teleportation-Exactly what it says

Telekinesis-Obvious

Mind reading- He has read minds

Mind control- To a limited extent of course

Summoning familiars- Alucard can use the souls he absorbed as familiars.

Damage resistance-Not only is he not harmed by sunlight or silver, he can ONLY be harmed by holy weapons.

These aren't even all of his powers, just the ones he would need to beat Kain.

Kain has most of these, if not at a much more powerful level.....and a sip of Alucards blood and he will have the ones he does not have.

With one slash Alucards soul/souls will be drained into the hungry reaver and he will be deceased permanently.

His only saving graces are his speed and maybe familiars depending on what they can actually do.

Originally posted by Gumachi
Your sprit/soul can't be destroyed anyway. Hmmm, I never thought that his sprit would still be there. Well, Kain can still be destroyed same goes to Alucard.

He simply cannot be destroyed, unless you mean his physical form then probably, it depends on whether or not it would incapaciate him or not.

Alucard is much physically stronger than Kain, he ripped a tank in half and threw it, destroying a plane.

Just sayin.

Yeah, I was talking physically. That's why I said "Holy Light Energy. " Maybe it could destroy his soul?

Just give up on the whole Soul Reaver absorbing his soul crap. Alucard no longer has a soul, or are you just ignoring that part?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAN144lkDI

And that is why Alucard wins.

Originally posted by Shaggs
Just give up on the whole Soul Reaver absorbing his soul crap. Alucard no longer has a soul, or are you just ignoring that part?

You guys have been going on about how he has many souls within him, if hes not got a soul then Kain can possess him easily using Spirit wrack and wins from the start....

Originally posted by ThunderGodEneru
Alucard is much physically stronger than Kain, he ripped a tank in half and threw it, destroying a plane.

Just sayin.

Much? Kain is a 40 tonner who can slice through stone and armour with his claws, depending on the Tanks feats of armour ime sure Kain wouldnt be outclassed by that feat by any major degree.

Theres nothing Alucard can do and one sip and Kain has all his powers.....no problem at all....

Originally posted by Shaggs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAN144lkDI

And that is why Alucard wins.

I must have missed it...what did he do impressive?

Originally posted by Burning thought
Much? Kain is a 40 tonner who can slice through stone and armour with his claws, depending on the Tanks feats of armour ime sure Kain wouldnt be outclassed by that feat by any major degree. Kain is not a 40 tonner.

And he ripped it in half, threw it, and destroyed a plane.

The impressive feat was that he radiated PURE ENERGY into his gun, and fired it at the most powerful enemy the world has ever known.

Besides, Alucard was classified as the most powerful vampire. Just saying.

Oh, and once again, Alucard CAN'T be damaged by anything but holy weapons.

Breaking the rules. Closed.