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H2H no shield or chi second battle with shield and ironfist

I think IF falls a little short. Cap is just as good of a fighter and possibly better stats. If both have standard gear/chi abilities, Danny gets a fairly big majority, IMO.

IF is vastly beyond the scope of Steve in regards to MA, he is so well trained he can harness his chi energies into great effect...Steve dosn't have a chance.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
IF is vastly beyond the scope of Steve in regards to MA, he is so well trained he can harness his chi energies into great effect...Steve dosn't have a chance. you're out of your jurisdiction

Originally posted by cloud102
I think IF falls a little short. Cap is just as good of a fighter and possibly better stats. If both have standard gear/chi abilities, Danny gets a fairly big majority, IMO. IMO IF is a better martial artist, but Cap should have better stats.

Originally posted by Mindset
IMO IF is a better martial artist, but Cap should have better stats.

I don't mind if he is. I like Danny better, but has Danny ever put down someone like the Hulk without amping his stats?

Originally posted by cloud102
I don't mind if he is. I like Danny better, but has Danny ever put down someone like the Hulk without amping his stats? Most of Danny's fights don't have PIS.

Originally posted by cloud102
I don't mind if he is. I like Danny better, but has Danny ever put down someone like the Hulk without amping his stats?


cant believe you actually used that feat for steve.. most can differentiate between jobber aura, writers protection bubble and bad writing..

Hasn't Steve taken down Thor without his hammer? You can't beat the Red, White, and Blue, son.

CA's shield deflects anything, from Darkseid's Omega Beams to LT's blue beams to The Spectre's divine judgment.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
IF is vastly beyond the scope of Steve in regards to MA, he is so well trained he can harness his chi energies into great effect...Steve dosn't have a chance. lolz...

MA feats, they're equally skilled...

Danny only channels chi because of where he was trained.

Are we talking about Bucky or Steve in this thread?

Bucky vs Ironfist= Ironfist(both scenereo's)

Steve vs Current Ironfist(no shield or chi)= Steve
Steve vs Ironfist(w/shield and chi)= Ironfist

IMO anyway...

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are we talking about Bucky or Steve in this thread?

Bucky vs Ironfist= Ironfist(both scenereo's)

Steve vs Current Ironfist(no shield or chi)= Steve
Steve vs Ironfist(w/shield and chi)= Ironfist

IMO anyway...


were are talking steve the boyscout rogers here in this battle.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Are we talking about Bucky or Steve in this thread?

Bucky vs Ironfist= Ironfist(both scenereo's)

Steve vs Current Ironfist(no shield or chi)= Steve
Steve vs Ironfist(w/shield and chi)= Ironfist

IMO anyway... QFT

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
were are talking steve the boyscout rogers here in this battle.
Well then...

Steve vs Current Ironfist(no shield or chi)= Steve
Steve vs Ironfist(w/shield and chi)= Ironfist

And Steve(w/shield) vs Classic Ironfist(w/chi)= 5/10 split or an oh so slight majority to the Boyscout.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
QFT look at the same exact way

nO cHI? Rogers spanks thee!