Hank Henshaw vs Black Adam

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Southern_Rebel
Henshaw has the Qwardian rings...and this is WWIII BA...who takes it. Both are bloodlusted as hell.

quanchi112
Black Adam takes it.

Allankles
Henshaw takes it 8/10. More power & versatility on top of his kryptonian physiology.

Silent Hero
Black Adam

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
Henshaw takes it 8/10. More power & versatility on top of his kryptonian physiology. How do you know he is more powerful? Adam had the Isis power on top of his own. On his own he easily defeated Captain Marvel. There is no way Henshaw could have taken on the forces Black Adam took on in ww 3.

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
How do you know he is more powerful? Adam had the Isis power on top of his own. On his own he easily defeated Captain Marvel. There is no way Henshaw could have taken on the forces Black Adam took on in ww 3.

This is Henshaw with several Qwardian power rings. And going by WW3, BA was just punching people. Henshaw has qwardian shields whose power is multiplied by several power rings.

On top of this he can project all manner of energy based weapons and constructs (2 of which he beat Supes down with in 3 blows).

All this and he already has high end durability, strength, damage soak and speed thanks to his kryptonian physiology and high end tech grafted into his flesh to amp his body.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
This is Henshaw with several Qwardian power rings. And going by WW3, BA was just punching people. Henshaw has qwardian shields whose power is multiplied by several power rings.

On top of this he can project all manner of energy based weapons and constructs (2 of which he beat Supes down with in 3 blows).

All this and he already has high end durability, strength, damage soak and speed thanks to his kryptonian physiology and high end tech grafted into his flesh to amp his body. Yes, and Henshaw was easily cast aside by three kryptonians.

Black Adam was wrecking waves of heroes which included one of those kryptonians, Firestorm, and Alan Scott.

In the superman fight all Henshaw was doing was hitting him with construct punches.


BA is more durable and his magical lightning would wreck him.

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, and Henshaw was easily cast aside by three kryptonians.

Black Adam was wrecking waves of heroes which included one of those kryptonians, Firestorm, and Alan Scott.

In the superman fight all Henshaw was doing was hitting him with construct punches.


BA is more durable and his magical lightning would wreck him.

BA wasn't wrecking the top guys, who were not even trying to kill him. High showing for BA but it wasn't anything that puts him on Henshaw's level with 10 qwardian power rings at his disposal, on top of his already greater versatility.

Without the rings Henshaw is already a good match up for Black Adam. With the rings Henshaw could render all of BA's attacks ineffective with shields and can create all manner of constructs (energy weapons, animated fighters etc).

As far as BA being more durable, Martian Manhunters energy radiation was melting his face. Henshaw has shields.

Bentley
Henshaw.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
BA wasn't wrecking the top guys, who were not even trying to kill him. High showing for BA but it wasn't anything that puts him on Henshaw's level with 10 qwardian power rings at his disposal, on top of his already greater versatility.

Without the rings Henshaw is already a good match up for Black Adam. With the rings Henshaw could render all of BA's attacks ineffective with shields and can create all manner of constructs (energy weapons, animated fighters etc).

As far as BA being more durable, Martian Manhunters energy radiation was melting his face. Henshaw has shields. Yes, he was. It doesn't even matter because BA wrecked the new captain marvel with less power.

Henshaw only used the rings to amp his punches. You cannot just make things up for him to somehow give him the win.

BA was taking on over 2o some heroes at once. he was fine afterwards and wasn't even really put down. He was depowered while his mind was assaulted. Henshaw was easily cast aside by three k-nians.


BA constituted ww 3 by himself while henshaw was someone who was easily tossed aside by three k-nians.

BruceSkywalker
I'm not sure who takes this just yet..

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he was. It doesn't even matter because BA wrecked the new captain marvel with less power.

Henshaw only used the rings to amp his punches. You cannot just make things up for him to somehow give him the win.

BA was taking on over 2o some heroes at once. he was fine afterwards and wasn't even really put down. He was depowered while his mind was assaulted. Henshaw was easily cast aside by three k-nians.


BA constituted ww 3 by himself while henshaw was someone who was easily tossed aside by three k-nians.

I don't really see an argument here. With 10 power rings Henshaw has way more power output than BA.

BA was restrained by the equivalent of 1 power ring in WW3 against an opponent who wasn't trying to kill him. Henshaw has 10 and he wouldn't hesitate to kill BA.

BA was wrecking teen titans and such, young heroes, guys not in his weight class. When he did face guys closer to his weight class like Power Girl, MM and Alan Scott. He really didn't wreck anyone. He took PG (fine) but Alan Scott handled him well consdering he was trying to restrain an amped BA on a rampage, as did MM.

EDIT: MM wasn't even trying to kill BA with his MV and he melted his face. I dread to think what he'd have done if he focused his beams and targeted BA's eyes.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
I don't really see an argument here. With 10 power rings Henshaw has way more power output than BA.

BA was restrained by the equivalent of 1 power ring in WW3 against an opponent who wasn't trying to kill him. Henshaw has 10 and he wouldn't hesitate to kill BA.

BA was wrecking teen titans and such, young heroes, guys not in his weight class. When he did face guys closer to his weight class like Power Girl, MM and Alan Scott. He really didn't wreck anyone. He took PG (fine) but Alan Scott handled him well consdering he was trying to restrain an amped BA on a rampage, as did MM.

EDIT: MM wasn't even trying to kill BA with his MV and he melted his face. I dread to think what he'd have done if he focused his beams and targeted BA's eyes. Funny I was about to say the same thing for you.

BA was mentally attacked and was depowered due to this. He isn't being mentally attacked here so its a moot point.

BA was tossing around Alan Scott, Firestorm, and MM as well. He let MM go and gave him a second warning. You failed to address the fact that BA wasn't out to kill them all as well. He gave MM multiple chances to leave the area and the fight.

Henshaw was casually tossed aside by three k-nians while BA was mentally assaulted after letting MM go and depowered by Captain Marvel.


BA wins 10 out of 10.

Anti-Monitor
Originally posted by Bentley
Henshaw.

Spire
Originally posted by Bentley
Henshaw.

Second'd

TricksterPriest
'Borg anal probes him.

Allankles
Originally posted by quanchi112
Funny I was about to say the same thing for you.

BA was mentally attacked and was depowered due to this. He isn't being mentally attacked here so its a moot point.

BA was tossing around Alan Scott, Firestorm, and MM as well. He let MM go and gave him a second warning. You failed to address the fact that BA wasn't out to kill them all as well. He gave MM multiple chances to leave the area and the fight.

Henshaw was casually tossed aside by three k-nians while BA was mentally assaulted after letting MM go and depowered by Captain Marvel.


BA wins 10 out of 10.

Again you aren't making any sought of legit argument. The guys BA were wrecking were not in his weight class and he killed a fair few of them as a result. It was quite clearly stated that BA was throwing punches to kill, yet against opponents restraining themseleves in this case MM, PG and Alan Scott he was only able to drop one of them.

Hell, even if we give the amped BA the benefit of the doubt he is still only taking down lightweights and gettting handled accordingly by the JSA core.

1 power ring used non lethally was enough to give BA significant concerns. What can a super cyborg grafted with super technology and 10 power rings accomplish?

Henshaw is a shape shifting, energy versatile, technopathic beast with high tech cybernetics supplementing a kryptonian base physiology.

He's an animal of a top tier in forum battles, even without a huge amp like 10 power rings.

TricksterPriest
He's also nigh-unkillable and has the ability to adapt to opponents and create weapons designed to their weaknesses.

occultdestroyer
Henshaw wins

Allankles
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
He's also nigh-unkillable and has the ability to adapt to opponents and create weapons designed to their weaknesses.

And 10 power rings are only going to add to that arsenal. A single power ring is a top tier powerset by itself, 10 is overkill. Man do people overrate BA or what?!

Avlon
Henshaw stomps.

A bloodlusted Henshaw has so many options, that it's not even funny.

Launch all the worlds nukes/tech after BA at the same time he fights him with kryptonian weaponry and a Superman body...

He doesn't even HAVE to be in a standard body (don't know why people forget this) to battle...and he can heal instantly from just about anything in this mode.

Quan just has a hatred for Henshaw for some reason.

Lord Feron
Originally posted by Allankles
And 10 power rings are only going to add to that arsenal. A single power ring is a top tier powerset by itself, 10 is overkill. Man do people overrate BA or what?!

Just want to say rings are only as good as the user. 99% of Green Lanterns are simply drawn to die. Only the ones that have been named can actually do something.

With any competent user like guy, kyle, john anyone that has been named with 10 god damn rings should be damn near skyfather level. Henshaw being beat by 3 kryptonians means he really didn't know how to use his shit.

Henshaw ftw. IMO with the many rings he should be able to take down a amped BA for the majority.

iceman24567
Henshaw wins

id369
Your stuck on retard, if you think BA warrants a single victory over Henshaw with SC rings.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Allankles
Again you aren't making any sought of legit argument. The guys BA were wrecking were not in his weight class and he killed a fair few of them as a result. It was quite clearly stated that BA was throwing punches to kill, yet against opponents restraining themseleves in this case MM, PG and Alan Scott he was only able to drop one of them.

Hell, even if we give the amped BA the benefit of the doubt he is still only taking down lightweights and gettting handled accordingly by the JSA core.

1 power ring used non lethally was enough to give BA significant concerns. What can a super cyborg grafted with super technology and 10 power rings accomplish?

Henshaw is a shape shifting, energy versatile, technopathic beast with high tech cybernetics supplementing a kryptonian base physiology.

He's an animal of a top tier in forum battles, even without a huge amp like 10 power rings. Ok, and Henshaw was only able to drop Superman. It's kind of hard to drop someone when 20 characters are literally bumrushing you all the time. When more than one k-nian got on Henshaw they tossed him aside. He only beat Superman.

BA took on the jsa before his amp. He was taking on a lot more than just the jsa. Really, I don't get your point.


You exaggerate Henshaw imo. He is slightly above a bloodlusted Superman imo which isn't near WW 3 Black Adam imo.

He is exaggerated imo while BA is animal without his ww 3 powerup. Look how easily he trashed Captain Marvel.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Avlon
Henshaw stomps.

A bloodlusted Henshaw has so many options, that it's not even funny.

Launch all the worlds nukes/tech after BA at the same time he fights him with kryptonian weaponry and a Superman body...

He doesn't even HAVE to be in a standard body (don't know why people forget this) to battle...and he can heal instantly from just about anything in this mode.

Quan just has a hatred for Henshaw for some reason. When did he do any of this with the rings?


He simply punched with constructs. The way you make him out he should have stomped the other two k-nians who rushed to Superman's aid, but he didn't.

I do not hate Henshaw. It's just ww 3 Black Adam was a beast while Henshaw was just good enough to beat Superman.Originally posted by id369
Your stuck on retard, if you think BA warrants a single victory over Henshaw with SC rings. Read ww 3 and get back to me.

Eel O'Brien
Originally posted by quanchi112
Henshaw was just good enough to beat Superman.

BA wouldn't be able to beat Superman like Henshaw did.

Zack Fair
Henshaw stomps.

Don't listen to the village idiot.

Anti-Monitor
whistle

Avlon
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did he do any of this with the rings?

Punching, blasting, shields, basic constructs, and beating Superman easily.


Originally posted by quanchi112
He simply punched with constructs. The way you make him out he should have stomped the other two k-nians who rushed to Superman's aid, but he didn't.

That's all he needed to do. Why get fancy when you can get the job done in a far easier manner?

Adam had problems with Martian Manhunter.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I do not hate Henshaw.

You could have fooled me the way you downplay him. Strange since he shares a lot with WWH who you stand behind all the time. (Strength + healing factor + far more abilities)

Eel O'Brien
Originally posted by Avlon
Adam had problems with Martian Manhunter.

People always seem to forget this.

Philosophía
Henshaw.

Nihilist
henshaw with rings is kinda spite against adam

fangirl101
Originally posted by Zack Fair
Henshaw stomps.

Don't listen to the village idiot.
Geesh

Batman-Prime
Henshaw about 7-8/10

BA won against CM once, he lost against Bill before his Shazam upgrade. CM >= BA most of the time.

quanchi112
Originally posted by Eel O'Brien
BA wouldn't be able to beat Superman like Henshaw did. Says who? BLack Adam stomped Captain Marvel as the new Shazam. He has more power here. Without an amp he did it.Originally posted by Avlon
Punching, blasting, shields, basic constructs, and beating Superman easily.




That's all he needed to do. Why get fancy when you can get the job done in a far easier manner?

Adam had problems with Martian Manhunter.



You could have fooled me the way you downplay him. Strange since he shares a lot with WWH who you stand behind all the time. (Strength + healing factor + far more abilities) Yes, he beat Superman easily. That is one character while I have Black Adam doing just that without his amp.

He spared Manhunter. He wasn't out for the kill. He also wasn't just facing the Manhunter.

You are the reason I can't like him more. I like he is a cool character, but imo you overrate him.

The point is Henshaw was easily cast aside by three beings when he had Superman dead to rights. BA wrecked far more than just one top tier in ww 3.Originally posted by Zack Fair
Henshaw stomps.

Don't listen to the village idiot. Read ww 3.

fangirl101
Originally posted by id369
Your stuck on retard, if you think BA warrants a single victory over Henshaw with SC rings.

Eel O'Brien
Originally posted by quanchi112
Says who? BLack Adam stomped Captain Marvel as the new Shazam. He has more power here. Without an amp he did it. Yes, he beat Superman easily. That is one character while I have Black Adam doing just that without his amp.

Who says BA beats Supes? You? He's never been done it before. Beating CM doesn't prove anything; epecially considering their recent fight had a lot of ambiguity.



BA did have trouble with MM. MM almost melted his face off. And just because WW3 BA walked through a bunch of DC heroes doesn't mean he could walk through 3 Kryptonians. You act like that's a low showing. But, any single character would have difficulty with 3 Kryptonians.

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