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I've been reading some funny posts on here now unless the hercules in the comic books isn't meant to have ANY kind of affiliation with the anciant hero, demi-god, eventually full greek god hercules/heracles, then this is what would happen:THAT CHICK WOULD GET A STOMP DOWN(Iunderstand she has speed of sound running, an unbreakable rope of truth, gauntlets that can wtihstand almost anything, and has class 90+ strength). Please read this and see the facts:



Dude hercules ****ing took the Earth from Atlas and held it up while Atlas went to take the apples that Hera(Zeus's wife) gave to Zeus. Hera hated hercules because he is Zeus's son through him cheating on Hera with a mortal woman. It made Hera even more infuriated because he was named heracles, which means "Gift from hera" by his human mother. She tried to kill him as a baby by putting snakes in his crib but he strangled them. As he grew up he was driven crazy by her and killed his family.He prayed to apollo(I think that's his uncle or something, he is the god of light, poetry, and truth.. maby more) to seek guidance for what he did and he made him serve the king eurythsis for twelve years. He had to do 12 deeds and he became a full god at the end of his labors.. which one of was to steal those apples from the garden, but since hera hated him he wouldn't be able to get close to the apples. So he had Atlas do it and held up the Earth for him. Now comic book writers are obviously smarter than scientists, but last time I checked the average storm cloud weighs 12,000,000,000 (12 billion) pounds. ... That's way more than 90 tons dude. Considering that's probably like a trillionth of the Earth's total weight I'm sure he is very ****ing strong... maby like 5 trillion times stronger than wonderwoman? And I hate how people say wonderwoman is near superman's strength when he actually moved the Earth pre-crisis... now he is a bad ass strong ass mofo too at that point. So uhm Hercules would ****ing grab that *****'s throat in one hand, and screw her while the other hand was fondling an unusually largely proportioned object on her body. If you ask me Diana is a sex slave of the olympians given her super strength to be able to withstand the thrusting of the olympians lol. They just don't come out and say it. I've been reading these threads and I thought wonder woman was the queen of the amazons, but someone said she is a clay woman imbued with olympian god power? So i dunno which one is correct. But yeah basically wonder woman would have a hard time holding up a platform with 35 elephants(an elephant weighs about 3 tons 3 times 35 is 105), so a platform which would weigh about a ton with 35 elephants on top would weigh 106 tons) while hercules can support the whole world.... who is going to win? Hercules is a 5th generation living creature anyway.. he is so ancient it's not even funny..First was Gaea,then uranus,then cronus,then zeus,then hercules... so who do you think is older, wiser, and has more experience, plus trillions times the strength? If you don't believe me on any of this research hercules and research storm cloud weight...

So Hercules is 5 trillion times stronger than WonderWoman?

Ok. Good luck with that.

Wonder Woman only lifts 90 tons?

Snoop dogg that was an estimate but all I know is that if Wonderwoman only can lift 90 tons or maby up to 105 tons(210,000 pounds) than the most she could lift is 35 elephants(an elephants weigh's 6,000 pounds), while hercules can hold up the Earth. I am simply stating that a storm cloud, a small fraction of the Earth's weight, can weigh around 12 billion pounds so Wonder woman has no where near even the fraction of the strength of the actual hercules. I am not talking about what a marvel author wrote about hercule's strength, I am stating facts and since wonder women is class 90 which means she can hold 90 tons, or a little more, over her head, then she can not obviously hold up the Earth considering that 90 tons is 180,000 pounds. If you want to be squareheaded and not look at facts its up to you. Maby try doing some of my math and opening your mind. I am talkign about the real mythological hercules here...

Originally posted by superman420sexy
Snoop dogg that was an estimate but all I know is that if Wonderwoman only can lift 90 tons or maby up to 105 tons(210,000 pounds) than the most she could lift is 35 elephants(an elephants weigh's 6,000 pounds), while hercules can hold up the Earth. I am simply stating that a storm cloud, a small fraction of the Earth's weight, can weigh around 12 billion pounds so Wonder woman has no where near even the fraction of the strength of the actual hercules. I am not talking about what a marvel author wrote about hercule's strength, I am stating facts and since wonder women is class 90 which means she can hold 90 tons, or a little more, over her head, then she can not obviously hold up the Earth considering that 90 tons is 180,000 pounds. If you want to be squareheaded and not look at facts its up to you. Maby try doing some of my math and opening your mind. I am talkign about the real mythological hercules here... im not sure how much stronger but hercules boasts that he is stronger than any god, meaning that immorotal hercules is most likely stronger than diana, wonderwomans stength has never been show to be too-high-end, but herc is crzy strongest olympian god.

Originally posted by superman420sexy
Snoop dogg that was an estimate but all I know is that if Wonderwoman only can lift 90 tons or maby up to 105 tons(210,000 pounds) than the most she could lift is 35 elephants(an elephants weigh's 6,000 pounds), while hercules can hold up the Earth. I am simply stating that a storm cloud, a small fraction of the Earth's weight, can weigh around 12 billion pounds so Wonder woman has no where near even the fraction of the strength of the actual hercules. I am not talking about what a marvel author wrote about hercule's strength, I am stating facts and since wonder women is class 90 which means she can hold 90 tons, or a little more, over her head, then she can not obviously hold up the Earth considering that 90 tons is 180,000 pounds. If you want to be squareheaded and not look at facts its up to you. Maby try doing some of my math and opening your mind. I am talkign about the real mythological hercules here...
Perhaps but you aren't talking about the real comic book Wonder Woman who lifts way more than 90 tons.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t362733.html

Click the link and be educated.

Was that amrtian manhunter who was granted the strength of gaea as an infant? Lol I wonder why someone from mars would be granted with that. By the way hercules is basically gaea's great grandson. So I guess his strength is close.

And thanks for actually being cool, and seeing some thigns from my point of view instead of being like I R0XoRZZZ JOOOOO U SUXX MANNN U IDIOT FOOL YEAH YEAH YEAH IM SO COOL IM 12..
and correcting me where I was wrong in some places... that wonderwoman is better than class 90. Well, you got some people to explain that too

Wonder Woman was granted the strength of Gaea.

One Problem: Atlas was cursed to hold up the HEAVENS not the earth. Damn mythological nubies!!!

Yeah i never said he only held up the Earth I said hercules held up the earth while atlas went to get the apples from that garden. I am a noobie because I started researching a couple days ago but I know my stuff more than most of the teachers in my piece of crap school. I've been reading about if for days straight now.

Well If she was then i guess she is stronger than hercules but I'm sure that strength could be taken away from whoever granted it to her. Herc will always have that strength or at least half of it considering he is half god by blood but full god by his labors.

ATLAS NEVER HELD UP THE EARTH and neither did Hercules

One of the hero Herakles' Twelve Labors involved the acquisition of some of the golden apples which grow in Hera's garden, tended by the Hesperides and guarded by the dragon Ladon. Herakles went to Atlas, the father of the Hesperides, and offered to hold the heavens for a little while in exchange for the apples, to which Atlas agreed. Upon his return with the apples, however, Atlas attempted to trick Herakles into carrying the sky permanently by offering to deliver the apples himself. Herakles, suspecting Atlas didn't intend to return again, pretended to agree to Atlas' offer, asking only that Atlas take the sky again for a few minutes so Herakles could rearrange his cloak as padding on his shoulders. When Atlas set down the apples and took the heavens upon his shoulders again, Herakles took the apples and went on his way.

In some versions, Herakles instead built two great pillars to hold the sky away from the earth, liberating Atlas much as he liberated Prometheus.

Good job that's exactly what I read, but in the version i read it said the earth. But yeah I didn't feel like putting all the little details in about how he asked atlas to take it for just a minute while he fixed his padding.. like I said I am somewhat of a noobie but I just wanted to put out that I thought wonder woman's strength was class 90 and that hercules was way stronger than her I didn't know wonder woman was granted gaea's strength and stuff so yeah whatever I guess I should jsut feel insulted and leave, not insulted by you mainly hulk 101 but i am trying to make peace with all of them

"Wonder Woman was granted the strength of Gaea"

You know how strong Gaea actual is? How can you compare.


"One Problem: Atlas was cursed to hold up the HEAVENS not the earth. Damn mythological nubies!!!"


"ATLAS NEVER HELD UP THE EARTH and neither did Hercules"


Both versions exist.


"In some versions, Herakles instead built two great pillars to hold the sky away from the earth, liberating Atlas much as he liberated
Prometheus."


Thats not an actual version but merely a variation of the heavens version.


And no. Diana isent cl 90. Shes cl 100.

Originally posted by olympian
"Wonder Woman was granted the strength of Gaea"

You know how strong Gaea actual is? How can you compare.


"One Problem: Atlas was cursed to hold up the HEAVENS not the earth. Damn mythological nubies!!!"


"ATLAS NEVER HELD UP THE EARTH and neither did Hercules"


Both versions exist.


"In some versions, Herakles instead built two great pillars to hold the sky away from the earth, liberating Atlas much as he liberated
Prometheus."


Thats not an actual version but merely a variation of the heavens version.


And no. Diana isent cl 90. Shes cl 100. High class 100 at that, and she's also far faster than sound speed, she cought Jessie Quick who was about to be absorbed into the speedforce.

Saying Gaea gives Wonderwoman strength doesn't mean all her strength. Kinda like Galactus giving heralds power cosmic he does it just never says how much..................

"Saying Gaea gives Wonderwoman strength doesn't mean all her strength. Kinda like Galactus giving heralds power cosmic he does it just never says how much.................."


My doubt where her strenght its concerned its exactly that one. That her strenght comes from the Earth (aka. Gaea) we already know.

What i dont see proven its that she has the equal measure of strenght (level) compared with Gaea.

Unless, skyfather beings (or above, depends how you classify her) at DC are "only" top tier.

Originally posted by olympian
"Wonder Woman was granted the strength of Gaea"

You know how strong Gaea actual is? How can you compare.

I wasn't comparing, just stating facts. Don't hurt me.

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Nah...your a nice guy. Grab a beer and enjoy the night.

Originally posted by superman420sexy
I've been reading some funny posts on here now unless the hercules in the comic books isn't meant to have ANY kind of affiliation with the anciant hero, demi-god, eventually full greek god hercules/heracles, then this is what would happen:THAT CHICK WOULD GET A STOMP DOWN(Iunderstand she has speed of sound running, an unbreakable rope of truth, gauntlets that can wtihstand almost anything, and has class 90+ strength). Please read this and see the facts:



Dude hercules ****ing took the Earth from Atlas and held it up while Atlas went to take the apples that Hera(Zeus's wife) gave to Zeus. Hera hated hercules because he is Zeus's son through him cheating on Hera with a mortal woman. It made Hera even more infuriated because he was named heracles, which means "Gift from hera" by his human mother. She tried to kill him as a baby by putting snakes in his crib but he strangled them. As he grew up he was driven crazy by her and killed his family.He prayed to apollo(I think that's his uncle or something, he is the god of light, poetry, and truth.. maby more) to seek guidance for what he did and he made him serve the king eurythsis for twelve years. He had to do 12 deeds and he became a full god at the end of his labors.. which one of was to steal those apples from the garden, but since hera hated him he wouldn't be able to get close to the apples. So he had Atlas do it and held up the Earth for him. Now comic book writers are obviously smarter than scientists, but last time I checked the average storm cloud weighs 12,000,000,000 (12 billion) pounds. ... That's way more than 90 tons dude. Considering that's probably like a trillionth of the Earth's total weight I'm sure he is very ****ing strong... maby like 5 trillion times stronger than wonderwoman? And I hate how people say wonderwoman is near superman's strength when he actually moved the Earth pre-crisis... now he is a bad ass strong ass mofo too at that point. So uhm Hercules would ****ing grab that *****'s throat in one hand, and screw her while the other hand was fondling an unusually largely proportioned object on her body. If you ask me Diana is a sex slave of the olympians given her super strength to be able to withstand the thrusting of the olympians lol. They just don't come out and say it. I've been reading these threads and I thought wonder woman was the queen of the amazons, but someone said she is a clay woman imbued with olympian god power? So i dunno which one is correct. But yeah basically wonder woman would have a hard time holding up a platform with 35 elephants(an elephant weighs about 3 tons 3 times 35 is 105), so a platform which would weigh about a ton with 35 elephants on top would weigh 106 tons) while hercules can support the whole world.... who is going to win? Hercules is a 5th generation living creature anyway.. he is so ancient it's not even funny..First was Gaea,then uranus,then cronus,then zeus,then hercules... so who do you think is older, wiser, and has more experience, plus trillions times the strength? If you don't believe me on any of this research hercules and research storm cloud weight...

"She has super-strength to withstand the thrusting of the Olympians, they just don't come out and say it"? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

But seriously tho folks, Avengers/JLA was bullshit beyond compare. Superman beating Thor was ridiculous. And KO'ing Wonder Man with one punch? Even the Hulk hasn't done that. From what I've seen of the Red Tornado he can't possibly do anything against the Vision or Thor. And Wonder Woman is definitely no match for Hercules. Wonder Woman's best strength feat IIRC was maybe having a little effect on the moon or something while Superman and the Green Lantern were doing all the work (as always the woman tries to take the credit while the men are the only ones actually getting the job done ). And I say a little because in JLA: Heaven's Ladder the Green Lantern holds together a giant link made of hundreds of planets. Going by that logic he was moving the moon single-handedly while Wonder Woman was doing nothing but trying to look impressive. If Hercules held up the Earth on his back he is many, many times stronger than Wonder Woman.

Originally posted by Uberking Robert
"She has super-strength to withstand the thrusting of the Olympians, they just don't come out and say it"? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

But seriously tho folks, Avengers/JLA was bullshit beyond compare. Superman beating Thor was ridiculous. And KO'ing Wonder Man with one punch? Even the Hulk hasn't done that. From what I've seen of the Red Tornado he can't possibly do anything against the Vision or Thor. And Wonder Woman is definitely no match for Hercules. Wonder Woman's best strength feat IIRC was maybe having a little effect on the moon or something while Superman and the Green Lantern were doing all the work (as always the woman tries to take the credit while the men are the only ones actually getting the job done ). And I say a little because in JLA: Heaven's Ladder the Green Lantern holds together a giant link made of hundreds of planets. Going by that logic he was moving the moon single-handedly while Wonder Woman was doing nothing but trying to look impressive. If Hercules held up the Earth on his back he is many, many times stronger than Wonder Woman.

I agree with the Thor, Wonder Man parts. I completely disagree with the Red Tornado part concerning Vision (Not Thor he'd own) simply because Red Tornado is more powerful since he's an air elemental with complete control over air molecules. Vision can't compete.

However you seem grossly uninformed on WW (not to mention grossly sexist:

Originally posted by Uberking Robert
(as always the woman tries to take the credit while the men are the only ones actually getting the job done ).


I highly suggest you read up on WW in her Respect Thread in the Comic Book Forum before you make a fool of yourself.

Originally posted by Draco69
I agree with the Thor, Wonder Man parts. I completely disagree with the Red Tornado part concerning Vision (Not Thor he'd own) simply because Red Tornado is more powerful since he's an air elemental with complete control over air molecules. Vision can't compete.

However you seem grossly uninformed on WW (not to mention grossly sexist:




I highly suggest you read up on WW in her Respect Thread in the Comic Book Forum before you make a fool of yourself.


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Bite your tongue! Bite it! This is a PG-13 forum, please keep it at that.

Originally posted by olympian
"Wonder Woman was granted the strength of Gaea"

You know how strong Gaea actual is? How can you compare.


"One Problem: Atlas was cursed to hold up the HEAVENS not the earth. Damn mythological nubies!!!"


"ATLAS NEVER HELD UP THE EARTH and neither did Hercules"


Both versions exist.


"In some versions, Herakles instead built two great pillars to hold the sky away from the earth, liberating Atlas much as he liberated
Prometheus."


Thats not an actual version but merely a variation of the heavens version.


And no. Diana isent cl 90. Shes cl 100.


Oh so both versions do exist where it was the Earth? Cool! I knew if every detail of the story down to the last little speck on the wall was the same, then there had to be a version where it was the Earth being held up and not only the heavens. Well in that Wonderwoman comic in her Tribute page it said she was granted the Strength of Gaea, which was greater than that of hercules, and since he shouldered the Earth, even only for a brief moment, she wouldn't back down to the moon. So I don't know that sounds like she might not have had Gaea's full strength then if she was even scared to try to move it? Who knows there both strong and Hercule's can hold the Earth and/or the heaven's. Ah the pillars in the variation of the Heavens version IS like him killing the Eagle that kept eating prometheus's liver or kidney or whatever.

"Lol, kiss my nutsack. Wonder Woman really is just a sex slave of the Grek gods. She has super-strength in her ass so she can withstand the thrusting of Olympian cocks. Greeks love doin it Greek style."


Respect others opinions, that was uncalled for.



"Bite your tongue! Bite it! This is a PG-13 forum, please keep it at that."


Bitting a tongue its rated Rex



"Oh so both versions do exist where it was the Earth? Cool! I knew if every detail of the story down to the last little speck on the wall was the same, then there had to be a version where it was the Earth being held up and not only the heavens"


Yes both versions exist. It was either called holding the "sky"or "firmament" or "celestial sphere". You have ancient art showing both, even.



"Well in that Wonderwoman comic in her Tribute page it said she was granted the Strength of Gaea, which was greater than that of hercules, and since he shouldered the Earth, even only for a brief moment, she wouldn't back down to the moon. So I don't know that sounds like she might not have had Gaea's full strength then if she was even scared to try to move it?"


Thats the one and only doubt i have about her strenght. Make no mistake she is top tier of strenght. I just havent seen an example, or feat on her own or even a straight statement actually saying she has the equal strenght measure Gaea herself would use, i.e the whole planet (this is correct i think). Just that. She does get her strenght from the very Earth. Its the measure/level im disputing.

Its either that or Skyfather level beings at DC when using full strenght are also top tier...seems kinda low to me. Im talking about strenght obviously not power.

If we take her sentence as cannon, then we already have a comparation. She couldnt move the Earth. He held it.

Superman who was in that feat as well, its ambigious, he moved a planet before on his lonesome when sundipped. But hes at least a moon mover.

Green Lantern could and did on the other hand.



"Ah the pillars in the variation of the Heavens version IS like him killing the Eagle that kept eating prometheus's liver or kidney or whatever"


Both the heavens version and the variation have him freeing the Titan. The "Celestial sphere" one tho i dont recall....probably.

<<Yes both versions exist. It was either called holding the "sky"or "firmament" or "celestial sphere". You have ancient art showing both, even.>>

art/artists interpret the sky/firmament/heavens as an image of the earth. he is never said (in real mythology) to have held the 'earth'. just because an artist interprets it as an image of the earth doesn't mean that that he literally held the earth. it was symbolic of his holding 'everything'. which is of course why we'll forever disagree that herc has indeed performed that feat in comics. he would have held the universe. unless marvel changes it and declares it IS only the earth. and even then it wouldn't conclusively show him holding even the earth . . .

ah the memories.

and no, i will not be drawn into a lengthy debate about it this time. give your rebut and have done!

Ok now that I am done laughing my ****g ass off at uber king robert's post, I guess I have come to realise she doesn't have Gaea's strength, but she does get it from Gaea?Kind of like I get a penis from my father, but we don't know if the whole thing came or not. Well then, I guess Hercules IS stronger than her. And if Hercules was holding up everything, doesn't that make him stronger than just holding up the Earth? I do believe there is a version where it is just the Earth though. So hercules can support the very means of where Wonder woman gets her strength from, NOT TO MENTION that this being (the earth/gaea) is also hercules Great Grandmother...First was her herself, Gaea ,then uranus(or was it neptune?),then cronus,then zeus,then hercules. There are plenty of other beings that were born in that time period though, including all of zeus's and cronus's brothers. How many of Zeus's brothers actually were eating by Cronus?

I know I could look all of this up by myself, but I love to see the random bits of comedy that break out in here.

Wonder Woman is only stronger than DC Hercules. I doubt she's any comparison for someone who once stalemated the mighty Thor.

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that ain't supposed to be funny, it's offensive and disgusting AND.... a banable offense

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think before you post

"art/artists interpret the sky/firmament/heavens as an image of the earth. he is never said (in real mythology) to have held the 'earth'. just because an artist interprets it as an image of the earth doesn't mean that that he literally held the earth. it was symbolic of his holding 'everything'."

And that simbolism existed since back then. The "celestial sphere" was said to be both Uranos and Gaea. Thats what they took as the world in theyr view.



"which is of course why we'll forever disagree that herc has indeed performed that feat in comics. he would have held the universe. unless marvel changes it and declares it IS only the earth. and even then it wouldn't conclusively show him holding even the earth . . ."

You already know my opinion. :P



"I guess I have come to realise she doesn't have Gaea's strength, but she does get it from Gaea"

Thats what i think. Some level but not all. Like Captain Marvel in relation with his powers.



"How many of Zeus's brothers actually were eating by Cronus"

All of them, except Zeus. Theres another version tho saying that Poseidon also escaped to that destiny.

lol i love this thread so im gonna bump it sorry