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Dr Strange at his best (all his relics)

Vs

Molecule Man at his best (no not pre-retcon)

who wins?

Simple, really.

MM can't tranmute something that isn't there and has no molecules, can he?
Doc's astral form is a ghost, unable to be harmed yet he retains his full powers.

Strange pops out to fight, Strange gord yo thr astral plane and and shuns his body to another demension.

I agree, Dr Strange has so many options that he can use to take him out.

Reece at his best was Pre Retcon

Post Retcon Reece he defeated Post Retcon Beyonder

Reece FTW

Current whereabouts unknown

MM can use anything and everything to his command even shit that Strange summons or whatever he can use that to

MM destroys all Strange's gods with a mere wink.

Strange has an absolute ZERO probability of living long enough to formulate a thought beyond "OH SH1T!".


and lol @ "astral form", Hulk smash astral form, MM smash astral plane in total.

Molecule Man wins this

MM

Originally posted by janus77
MM destroys all Strange's gods with a mere wink.

Strange has an absolute ZERO probability of living long enough to formulate a thought beyond "OH SH1T!".


and lol @ "astral form", Hulk smash astral form, MM smash astral plane in total.


I agree whole hartedly .

Originally posted by janus77
MM destroys all Strange's gods with a mere wink.

Strange has an absolute ZERO probability of living long enough to formulate a thought beyond "OH SH1T!".


and lol @ "astral form", Hulk smash astral form, MM smash astral plane in total. pretty much

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Originally posted by guy222
Reece at his best was Pre Retcon

Post Retcon Reece he defeated Post Retcon Beyonder

Reece FTW

Current whereabouts unknown
Wasn't he imprisoned in some sort of Alcatraz detention unit?

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
Wasn't he imprisoned in some sort of Alcatraz detention unit? Iron Man was able to wipe parts of his mind with a cyber program (lulz.)

And "facepalm" at LP's former Strange fanboyism.

poor strange

Owen.

MM

ain't MM supposed to be same level as a cosmic cube or something ? he's basicly omnipotent

Originally posted by occultdestroyer

Wasn't he imprisoned in some sort of Alcatraz detention unit?
Which Owen himself allowed,
due to his broken heart after he realized Marsha left him for good.

Owen is an emotional hazard, he even placed limitations in his mind again,
limitations that are broken when his alter-ego takes over.
Originally posted by Galan007
Iron Man was able to wipe parts of his mind with a cyber program (lulz.)
lulz indeed, that's hilarious, and I still haven't found the stipulation behind that comedy,
I mean Tony doing that just a Cube being is ridiculous,
but to a character above Cube beings? That's just a no, no, or good ol' fashion pis,
or perhaps Owen allowed it, to get Marsha out of his mind? Just a theory.

Originally posted by Mr Master
or perhaps Owen allowed it, to get Marsha out of his mind? Just a theory. Nah, Tony was able to pretty much pick and choose which memories he wiped from Owen's mind. For instance, Tony erased Owen's knowledge of his secret identity.

Still lulz.

Strange can win on his best days obviously. Molecule Man isn't someone above some of the beings Strange's fought. That said, MM would take 8-9/10 wins against Strange. Put Shuma Gorath or Agamotto and I'd wager them beating MM. Possibly even Dormammu.

Mm... On his best days... Is basically an abstract...
Dr strange at his best could potentially beat mm... Because strange at his best harnesses the help of abstracts like eternity, lord chaos, and master order...

But what dr strange would have to cast a spell to do in seconds... Mm dies as a thought...

Dr strange can be potentially stronger... But he's not an avatar like spectre... He uses spells... And mm can defeat stephen with a thought before strange can speak a word.

Originally posted by rotiart
Mm... On his best days... Is basically an abstract...
Dr strange at his best could potentially beat mm... Because strange at his best harnesses the help of abstracts like eternity, lord chaos, and master order...

But what dr strange would have to cast a spell to do in seconds... Mm dies as a thought...

Dr strange can be potentially stronger... But he's not an avatar like spectre... He uses spells... And mm can defeat stephen with a thought before strange can speak a word.

So could Shuma Gorath, Dormammu, Galactus, Zom, and other's he's fought.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So could Shuma Gorath, Dormammu, Galactus, Zom, and other's he's fought.

What other feats does Shuma Gorath have? beyond being unbeatable in his own dimension.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
So could Shuma Gorath, Dormammu, Galactus, Zom, and other's he's fought.

It's each at their best.... Strange is still restricted to incantations.... Mm is not...
And this is not plot induced.....

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
What other feats does Shuma Gorath have? beyond being unbeatable in his own dimension.

Taking over the Ancient One and mind controlling Nightmare to the point he feared naming SG as the one controlling him. Strange had to drag it out of Nightmare. Had ancient demons as his servant, one a planetoid Strange beat by channeling all his might (Strange's only planet destroying feat I know) and the other was Sligguth (a spawn of Set).

SG in the 616 would wreck galaxies according to the comments after Strange defeated and was becoming SG.