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This is of course not Galactus at full power, he's in normal well feeded state. Like he were when he fought full power Tyrant, well?

USE ME

Their is no Pre-crisis, post-crisis darkseid because DS was not effected by the crisis. All of Darkseids losses and defeats were retconned as of 2004 to that they were avatars of him who were defeated.

The only smilar I found was http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=404632&highlight=title%3A%28pre-crisis+darkseid%29+forumid%3A77

And that is not the same.

Galactus wins.
DS cant erase big G. OE is maily all hes got.
He loses.

DS in true form via boom tube, as well as the rest of the DC newgods, to them galaxies are marbles and planets grains of sand.




ALE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Galactus

Originally posted by Jesse7
DS in true form via boom tube, as well as the rest of the DC newgods, to them galaxies are marbles and planets grains of sand.




ALE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Galactus

ALE wasnt stated by thread starter

Originally posted by Jesse7
DS in true form via boom tube, as well as the rest of the DC newgods, to them galaxies are marbles and planets grains of sand.




ALE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Galactus


I doubt that even Darkseid was ever that powerful. And most of the other New Gods obviously couldn't have been that tough, although I don't know DC or the New Gods that well. But I think that you're pretty far overrating 'Seid if you think that he can pwn Galactus that easily. Galactus, at medium power destroyed "countless" galaxies in his battle with Tyrant. Also, in "The Hunger", Darkseid zapped a hungry Galactus with the OE and it couldn't kill him, and Galactus then defeated Darkseid with only one casual shot. Assuming Darkseid is the same after Crisis as he was beforehand, then that should show that he was never Galactus-level, let alone more powerful.

Originally posted by Nogoodnamesleft
I doubt that even Darkseid was ever that powerful. And most of the other New Gods obviously couldn't have been that tough, although I don't know DC or the New Gods that well. But I think that you're pretty far overrating 'Seid if you think that he can pwn Galactus that easily. Galactus, at medium power destroyed "countless" galaxies in his battle with Tyrant. Also, in "The Hunger", Darkseid zapped a hungry Galactus with the OE and it couldn't kill him, and Galactus then defeated Darkseid with only one casual shot. Assuming Darkseid is the same after Crisis as he was beforehand, then that should show that he was never Galactus-level, let alone more powerful.

Do you know that Crossovers aren't Cannon unless all companies who took part in them acknowledges them some where in their continuity or hand books, etc.

Secondly the newgods and Ds are that powerful in their true forms, they are like children of the presence in a way, they use boom tubes to depower themselves and shrink themselves so they wont destroy everything from their power and size.

Superman when he used a boomtube and saw the newgods in their true forms was amazed, galaxies are like marbles to them, DS in his depowered state (not boomtubed) can move solar systems around with his mind as though they were nothing. Now imagine how strong DS is in his true form via boom tube, when galaxies are marbles to the newgods in their true form.

P.S. As for DS fighting Galactus in the xover (which isn't even cannon I think) he wasn't even in his true form, if he was DS would have been much MUCH bigger and different in size, shape, color, matter, etc. It likely was an avatar of DS seeing as of 2004 all of DS defeats were retconned to be avatars of his.


P.S.S. Do you think all that DS has is the OE? He normally as the ALE now, so its not even needed to be mentioned; going by forum rules characters have all their powers unless specifically stated otherwise. And aside from the OE and ALE he has many MANY powers, do not assume that because he has the OE And ALE that is all he has. The newgods in a way are much like the brothers to the promethian giants.

What is this? The 10th time this has been made?

11th... Just kidding this is the first.

Darkseid has hurt the antimoniter badly Antimoniter >>>>Galactus

Yeah but he was still weaker than the Anti-Monitor.

It's like saying that Thanos would have a chanse aginst Galactus.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/89/thanosgalactusvg2.jpg

Galactus had the ability to move galaxies with his mind first.

Full power Galactus = infinite power >> nearly infinite power = True Darkseid
Thats a fact... But how would over average Galactus do?

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Full power Galactus = infinite power >> nearly infinite power = True Darkseid
Thats a fact... But how would over average Galactus do?
your fact is stupid since hulk has infinite strenght but he is not stronger than darkseid

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Full power Galactus = infinite power >> nearly infinite power = True Darkseid
Thats a fact... But how would over average Galactus do?

Galactus at full power is not infinite power. If it were, he would be on par with the one above all. he's the only one who truly has infinite power.
I dont' think they can beat each other. This was pretty much shown in the cross over.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Galactus at full power is not infinite power. If it were, he would be on par with the one above all. he's the only one who truly has infinite power.
I dont' think they can beat each other. This was pretty much shown in the cross over.
Eternity/Infinity = Infinite power
Multi-Eternity/-Infinity = Infinite power
Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet = Infinite power
Infinity Gauntlet = Infnite power
Infinity being = Infinite power
Living Tribunal = Infinite power
... And so on...

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
your fact is stupid since hulk has infinite strenght but he is not stronger than darkseid
No you got it wrong... Hulk's strength is based on his anger (which is supose to have infinite potential).
There is a slight difference.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Galactus at full power is not infinite power. If it were, he would be on par with the one above all. he's the only one who truly has infinite power.
I dont' think they can beat each other. This was pretty much shown in the cross over.

Didnt you say in another thread that crossovers are not cannon?
I guess they are cannon when your guys get strong showings.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
your fact is stupid since hulk has infinite strenght but he is not stronger than darkseid
He can be. It would just be a matter of how long it would take to reach those levels.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Galactus at full power is not infinite power. If it were, he would be on par with the one above all. he's the only one who truly has infinite power.
I dont' think they can beat each other. This was pretty much shown in the cross over. Your using a crossover...

And in the same x over, Darky hit G with the OE, and then G caasually slapped him away.

Originally posted by Accel
He can be. It would just be a matter of how long it would take to reach those levels. No!

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Eternity/Infinity = Infinite power
Multi-Eternity/-Infinity = Infinite power
Incomplete Infinity Gauntlet = Infinite power
Infinity Gauntlet = Infnite power
Infinity being = Infinite power
Living Tribunal = Infinite power
... And so on...

Now how can they all have infinite power but have a hierarchy. Wouldnt' they all be equal if they all had infinite power? Really tho. You can't divide infinity. They all can't share infinite power. They can have power to which they haven't reached thier limits. but no one but the one above all his infinite power. Even the beyonder dint' have infinite power. his power was quantified by the number of times he was more powerful than the multiverse. this number, tho very very high, is not infinite. there is only one infinite. and that's the one above all. with that being said, galactus at full power being the same as eternity is the same as DS with a piece of the ALE. To which we have never seen either at full power. so we cant' really tell who would win. I have never seen galactus as powerful as eternity. and I have never seen Darksied use the Ale to it's fullest.

Originally posted by bigbran
No!
He can become as physically strong as any body, even Darkseid (no, this doesn't mean Hulk can beat Darkseid).

Originally posted by bigbran
Your using a crossover...

And in the same x over, Darky hit G with the OE, and then G caasually slapped him away.

NO that's not how it went. Darksied hit him with the OE and it was ERASING him, and then Galactus willed himself back and he didn't slap him away. he blasted him full on. And commented on Darksied's great power. He Hurt Darksied. I dont 'think any being in all of comics could take a full on blast from galactus and get up right away like Darksied did.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Now how can they all have infinite power but have a hierarchy. Wouldnt' they all be equal if they all had infinite power? Really tho. You can't divide infinity. They all can't share infinite power. They can have power to which they haven't reached thier limits. but no one but the one above all his infinite power. Even the beyonder dint' have infinite power. his power was quantified by the number of times he was more powerful than the multiverse. this number, tho very very high, is not infinite. there is only one infinite. and that's the one above all. with that being said, galactus at full power being the same as eternity is the same as galactus with a piece of the ALE. To which we have never seen either at full power. so we cant' really tell who would win. I have never seen galactus as powerful as eternity. and I have never seen Darksied use the Ale to it's fullest.
Let's sayn that it's different grades of infinite.
Because you can't reach their level's by just multiplying numbers.
Let's say Silver Surfer's level is: 10
could you multiply his power enough times to reach the level of Eternity? - No.
Silver Surfer * 99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99
999^99999 << Eternity

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO that's not how it went. Darksied hit him with the OE and it was ERASING him, and then Galactus willed himself back and he didn't slap him away. he blasted him full on. And commented on Darksied's great power. He Hurt Darksied. I dont 'think any being in all of comics could take a full on blast from galactus and get up right away like Darksied did. You mean a full on blast in a crossover!
And where is the proof that it was a "full on blast"?

Plus it was a weak Galactus.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO that's not how it went. Darksied hit him with the OE and it was ERASING him, and then Galactus willed himself back and he didn't slap him away. he blasted him full on. And commented on Darksied's great power. He Hurt Darksied. I dont 'think any being in all of comics could take a full on blast from galactus and get up right away like Darksied did.

Originally posted by bigbran
You mean a full on blast in a crossover!
And where is the proof that it was a "full on blast"?

Plus it was a weak Galactus.
bah, it's always a weak Galactus. How do we even know how powerful he is if he's always weak? Oh well, He got blasted by a DS avatar. lol. So we dont' know who would truly win.

Originally posted by Inhuman

Priceless....

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Let's sayn that it's different grades of infinite.
Because you can't reach their level's by just multiplying numbers.
Let's say Silver Surfer's level is: 10
could you multiply his power enough times to reach the level of Eternity? - No.
Silver Surfer * 99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99999^99
999^99999 << Eternity

Your saying the same thing I'm saying. There is no such thing as differnt grades of infinity. Just massive massive powers. But none of them have the infinite power of TOAA/Presence.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
bah, it's always a weak Galactus. How do we even know how powerful he is if he's always weak? Oh well, He got blasted by a DS avatar. lol. So we dont' know who would truly win. You don't get the point I'm making!
Your using a crossover as your backup!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
bah, it's always a weak Galactus. How do we even know how powerful he is if he's always weak? Oh well, He got blasted by a DS avatar. lol. So we dont' know who would truly win.

:gives up:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
bah, it's always a weak Galactus. How do we even know how powerful he is if he's always weak? Oh well, He got blasted by a DS avatar. lol. So we dont' know who would truly win.
And how do we KNOW it was an avatar?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your saying the same thing I'm saying. There is no such thing as differnt grades of infinity.
In comics there is...

I win by not listening to you guys

Originally posted by darthgoober
And how do we KNOW it was an avatar?

I was just making a point. don't you get it. Someone said it was a weak Galactus, which it always is, so im saying it is always a DS avatar. Just making a point. We don't know how weak or strong galactus was and we dont' know if darksied was there or if it was dasaad or an avatar. Just makign a come back to a comment. just a rebuttle.

Originally posted by bigbran
You don't get the point I'm making!
Your using a crossover as your backup!

None the less, it's a cross over written by someone who has ties to both companies, and has done great work for both, and has great respect for jack kirby, who made all the characters. the book was written very much like jack kirby woudl have written it. But ur right. it's just a cross over.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I was just making a point. don't you get it. Someone said it was a weak Galactus, which it always is, so im saying it is always a DS avatar. Just making a point. We don't know how weak or strong galactus was and we dont' know if darksied was there or if it was dasaad or an avatar. Just makign a come back to a comment. just a rebuttle.

I could post a pic of galactus blasting darkseid to ashes and then urinating on the ashes; and before ds dies he could scream " But, how? Im the real DS. I cannot die this way!"
I bet you will still come up with something to make it so DS didnt or cant lose.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Your saying the same thing I'm saying. There is no such thing as differnt grades of infinity. Just massive massive powers. But none of them have the infinite power of TOAA/Presence.
It's not a matter of power, it's a matter of PURPOSE. They all have infinite power pertaining to their purpose. The Living Tribunal has infinite power to pass judgement within his realm of influence. Eternity has infinite power to do all the things that he is capable of doing, but his sphere of influence is within LT's, so he is subject to LT's judgment. A baron can do anything he wants in his barony that's not specifically barred by his king, if he oversteps his bounds, the king is able to punish the baron, however he feels is fitting. The frame work is laid down by TOAA, and therefore everyone is subject to it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's not a matter of power, it's a matter of PURPOSE. They all have infinite power pertaining to their purpose. The Living Tribunal has infinite power to pass judgement within his realm of influence. Eternity has infinite power to do all the things that he is capable of doing, but his sphere of influence is within LT's, so he is subject to LT's judgment. A baron can do anything he wants in his barony that's not specifically barred by his king, if he oversteps his bounds, the king is able to punish the baron, however he feels is fitting. The frame work is laid down by TOAA, and therefore everyone is subject to it.

which means TOAA is the only one who has real infinite power. He could simply get tired of The LT and Eternity inthier roles and reverse them. And niether could have the power to do anything about it.

Eternity is as infinite as the universe itself, which is truley infinite - satated a serval times now...

Galactus was in weakend state and he still served Darkseid, Galactus on any level is too much for Darkseid period. Galactus 10/10, Galactus is the force of the universe.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Galactus was in weakend state and he still served Darkseid, Galactus on any level is too much for Darkseid period. Galactus 10/10, Galactus is the force of the universe.

Galactus is always in a weakend state. and he's gotten beaten by much lessor beings than Darksied. He didn't even kill darksied. he couldn't. Darksied Got up. I'd give DS more wins out of that then 10/10.

galactus wins, darkseids omega effect wouldnt do anything

Originally posted by galan7777777
galactus wins, darkseids omega effect wouldnt do anything

And Darksied cannot Die. It's just a stalemate.

DS can't die, but he sures hell will get knock the f**k out, easily.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And Darksied cannot Die. It's just a stalemate. ok, but what would stop big G from trapping DS in a black hole, or space void which would also equate to a win

Originally posted by the Darkone
DS can't die, but he sures hell will get knock the f**k out, easily.

Originally posted by galan7777777
ok, but what would stop big G from trapping DS in a black hole, or space void which would also equate to a win

when have you ever known DS to be trapped by anything other than the source?

Originally posted by the Darkone
DS can't die, but he sures hell will get knock the f**k out, easily.

If the Spectre couldn't do it, Galactus sure ain't.

The spectre did kill him but then brought him back because he is a necessary evil, well hell Doomsday sures hell did knock DS ass out cold.

Originally posted by the Darkone
The spectre did kill him but then brought him back because he is a necessary evil, well hell Doomsday sures hell did knock DS ass out cold.

Um no. you are so wrong. The spectre didnt' bring him back. Try again.

DS cameback to life big f**king deal, he still can get knock out like he did when he fought Doomsday in Hunters Prey.

Big G

Big G crushes Darkseid worse then Superman.

had to bring it back....

Originally posted by guy222
had to bring it back....

For what?

Precrisis Darkseid was defeated by Firestorm.

So you could realize how stupid you look in it.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So you could realize how stupid you look in it.
actually I don't. It's precris DS who routinely beat the Uber JLA with nothing more than a wave. Ass.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
actually I don't. It's precris DS who routinely beat the Uber JLA with nothing more than a wave. Ass. Still lost to Firestorm.

Galactus would crush that jla as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Still lost to Firestorm.

Galactus would crush that jla as well.
Galactus would have a hard time with precrisis Anything. Superboy alone could tow galaxies worth of planets. And DS didn't lose to firestorm. Firestorm used DS own power against him. Are you kidding me? Big G lost to Thor. Got embarrassed by the fan four, knocked over by the Thing. His own power was even held back briefly by two heralds.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Galactus would have a hard time with precrisis Anything. Superboy alone could tow galaxies worth of planets. And DS didn't lose to firestorm. Firestorm used DS own power against him. Are you kidding me? Big G lost to Thor. Got embarrassed by the fan four, knocked over by the Thing. His own power was even held back briefly by two heralds. Galactus lost to plot devices and story elements while Ds lost to Firestorm.

Ds loses everyone knows it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Galactus lost to plot devices and story elements while Ds lost to Firestorm.

Ds loses everyone knows it.

If you didn't know, Firestorm is THE plot device character. It's ok for Galactus to lose to plot devices and story elements but not DS. You are a hippocrit. I don't value your opinion in anythread. I think you are here just to troll and start fights. I would appreciate you not responding to any of my posts. I think you are marvel biased to the rediculous extreme, many others have pwned you on how you use an argument against a DC character and then turn around and excuse the same kind of things for marvel characters. You do not impress me, you do not have my admiration, you do nothing but show me that you are here to flame, bait, troll and I"m tired of it. Now I am requesting once again that you DO NOT RESPOND TO ME IN ANY THREADS WITH DS AND THANOS.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If you didn't know, Firestorm is THE plot device character. It's ok for Galactus to lose to plot devices and story elements but not DS. You are a hippocrit. I don't value your opinion in anythread. I think you are here just to troll and start fights. I would appreciate you not responding to any of my posts. I think you are marvel biased to the rediculous extreme, many others have pwned you on how you use an argument against a DC character and then turn around and excuse the same kind of things for marvel characters. You do not impress me, you do not have my admiration, you do nothing but show me that you are here to flame, bait, troll and I"m tired of it. Now I am requesting once again that you DO NOT RESPOND TO ME IN ANY THREADS WITH DS AND THANOS. Again ignore me but dont tell me what I can and cant respond to in any thread.

And uhm Firestorm isnt a plot device himself but is a character.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
For what?

Don't spoil my fun

J/K

U know I respect ur views

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again ignore me but dont tell me what I can and cant respond to in any thread.

And uhm Firestorm isnt a plot device himself but is a character.
FAIL. Firestorm is a plot device character. Just like the juggernaut and other characters.

Wow, someone actually voted for DS to win?

How embarrassed that person is.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Galactus would have a hard time with precrisis Anything. Superboy alone could tow galaxies worth of planets. And DS didn't lose to firestorm. Firestorm used DS own power against him. Are you kidding me? Big G lost to Thor. Got embarrassed by the fan four, knocked over by the Thing. His own power was even held back briefly by two heralds.


I dont know why people, when mentioning PC characters they fail to realize that thay also got beat by laughable characters.
Yeah they farted away galaxies and spinning real fast rivaled the power of the infinity gauntlet.
PC Supes had a hard time defeating toyman for ****s sake ermmgay

Galactus creates a flight of stairs?






oh and Galactus pwns .

Galactus.

btw, Isn't the argument that all Darkseids is the same always brought up to justify why another version of him could do exactly the same thing

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO that's not how it went. Darksied hit him with the OE and it was ERASING him, and then Galactus willed himself back I believe this is a misinterpretation of the artwork. Galactus wasn't being erased. Those lines represented the blast effect of the OE impact. If you'll note the following panel, Galactus' body posture is unchanged. He looks completely unphased. He doesn't state--doesn't even hint at--how he had to "will himself back".

However, if we're going to be liberal in our interpretations of artwork, note Darkseid's stance after he blasts Galactus: he seems taken aback.

Yes, the crossover wasn't canon. But for what it was, Galactus--who hadn't even fed yet--was clearly the far more powerful being.

Originally posted by Mindship
I believe this is a misinterpretation of the artwork. Galactus wasn't being erased. Those lines represented the blast effect of the OE impact. If you'll note the following panel, Galactus' body posture is unchanged. He looks completely unphased. He doesn't state--doesn't even hint at--how he had to "will himself back".

However, if we're going to be liberal in our interpretations of artwork, note Darkseid's stance after he blasts Galactus: he seems taken aback.

Yes, the crossover wasn't canon. But for what it was, Galactus--who hadn't even fed yet--was clearly the far more powerful being.

co-signed

cosigned again

Not Darkseid, that's for sure.

big g wins handily

Galactus stomp him.

At best, Darkseid is skyfather lvl.
A regular Galactus would eats him alive.

If Darkseid have the Ale, Galactus take out his gun (Ultimate Nullifer) and shot him out from existence.

Plus, Galactus is one of the three force in the universe. I don't think that he would be affected by the OE of Darkseid.

Or Galactus creat stairs. Or Thugs.

Originally posted by Mindship
I believe this is a misinterpretation of the artwork. Galactus wasn't being erased. Those lines represented the blast effect of the OE impact. If you'll note the following panel, Galactus' body posture is unchanged. He looks completely unphased. He doesn't state--doesn't even hint at--how he had to "will himself back".

However, if we're going to be liberal in our interpretations of artwork, note Darkseid's stance after he blasts Galactus: he seems taken aback.

Yes, the crossover wasn't canon. But for what it was, Galactus--who hadn't even fed yet--was clearly the far more powerful being.

This thread is spite.

Current Depictions of Depowered DS show him making the Spectre hurt. DS has been blasted down by Lessor. It would be safe to say that PRecrisis DS wouldn't go down easily to Galactus.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Current Depictions of Depowered DS show him making the Spectre hurt.

Batman has hurt Spectre too...


Spectre was also shown unaffected by the OE once he actually started defending himself.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Batman has hurt Spectre too...


Spectre was also shown unaffected by the OE once he actually started defending himself.

Spectre was Caused to cry out in pain. And I recall the spectre LETTING batman kick him to let off some steam. Did I miss another Batman Spectre conflict?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Spectre was Caused to cry out in pain.

And he was shown to be completely unaffected in the next panel.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And he was shown to be completely unaffected in in the next panel.

Batman's intentions are never to kill.

Originally posted by Inhuman
Batman's intentions are never to kill.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Current Depictions of Depowered DS show him making the Spectre hurt. DS has been blasted down by Lessor. It would be safe to say that PRecrisis DS wouldn't go down easily to Galactus. Black Adam danced on the Spectre. Batman kicked him in da face. Darkseid engaged the Spectre also. Only one of these characters were oneshotted in retaliation.

Poor Ds.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Spectre was Caused to cry out in pain. And I recall the spectre LETTING batman kick him to let off some steam. Did I miss another Batman Spectre conflict? Ds got oneshotted. Spectre let Batman have his way with him.

Guess he respects Bruce Wayne more than Uxas.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
And he was shown to be completely unaffected in the next panel. True that.