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No speedblitz. Which team wins this?

Shall I? or do you want to start?

Doesn't matter to me.

Thor uses him Hammer to open a portal to the middle of the universe and Guardian and Magneto get toss in.

Magneto is the weak link.

Originally posted by badabing
Magneto is the weak link.

I KNOW you didn't just say that now.

Originally posted by golem370
Thor uses him Hammer to open a portal to the middle of the universe and Guardian and Magneto get toss in.

See Mungi? I KNEW this was bound to happen.

Thor and Gladiator win.

*prepares for the Mungi Batdude onslaught*

Thor thumped magneto already(#109). Mjolnir has control over magnatism as well.

thor and glads ftw

Originally posted by batdude123
I KNOW you didn't just say that now.
Yeah, I was just messing with you because of all the confused smilies earlier.

Magneto has tossed Thor around himself, and Guardian was built to take on Galactus and has defeated a weakened version.

but I will let batdude make his comments, as it's to late to start the scan-a-poolza on my end.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thor thumped magneto already(#109). Mjolnir has control over magnatism as well.

Hey, Mjolnir, guess what? Magneto also "thumped" an Avengers team that had Thor on it. And guess what he did with Mjolnir???

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto88.jpg

And that was the first of two times Magneto has f*cked with Mjolnir.

Originally posted by batdude123
Hey, Mjolnir, guess what? Magneto also "thumped" an Avengers team that had Thor on it. And guess what he did with Mjolnir???

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto88.jpg

And that was the first of two times Magneto has f*cked with Mjolnir before. nice scans!

Originally posted by batdude123
Hey, Mjolnir, guess what? Magneto also "thumped" an Avengers team that had Thor on it. And guess what he did with Mjolnir???

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto88.jpg

And that was the first of two times Magneto has f*cked with Mjolnir.
Theres also scans of Mjolnir draining off Manetos forcefield. Guess what he did with Magneto then?

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Theres also scans of Mjolnir draining off Manetos forcefield. Guess what he did with Magneto then?

"By Odin's beard!!! Not even heaven forged Mjolnir is immune to his mutant power!" Note: that was the first of two times he's screwed with Mjolnir. The two beats your one.

And he also did extremely well against another Avengers team that had Thor on it as well. He commented that not even Mjonir could get through the power of his almighty shields!!!

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg

Originally posted by batdude123
"By Odin's beard!!! Not even heaven forged Mjolnir is immune to his mutant power!" Note: that was the first of two times he's screwed with Mjolnir. The two beats your one.

And he also did extremely well against another Avengers team that had Thor on it as well. He commented that not even Mjonir could get through the power of his almighty shields!!!

http://img198.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magfiresstonesshield7jj.jpg

I loved that comic. So much action. The russians, xmen, avegners and magneto being bad ass.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I loved that comic. So much action. The russians, xmen, avegners and magneto being bad ass.

Indeed. He is a badass.

Well thier just contradicting themselves. The earlier fight shown Thor just draining away his shield then smacking him senseless. Thor has attacks than can penetrate either magnetos or guardians shields. Id say gladiator could put a strain on either of thier shields as well.

Well If were talking about a true battle no holds Bar battle Thor and Gladiator would win Gladiator and Thor both strike the Earth Gladiator with his fist and Thor with his hammer then Thor portals him and Gladiator to Asgard

He did IW force field

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Well thier just contradicting themselves. The earlier fight shown Thor just draining away his shield then smacking him senseless. Thor has attacks than can penetrate either magnetos or guardians shields. Id say gladiator could put a strain on either of thier shields as well.

Which makes no sense considering Magneto simply could've tampered with Mjolnir.

Or he could tamper with the iron in Thor's blood and f*ck him up that way. If you don't think that would be very effective, just ask poor Apocalypse. OUCH!!!

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8623/magripsapartapocalypse4li.jpg

Or suck the life out of Thor via the "bottle effect" like he used against the Pheonix.

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2629/magdrawslifeenergy8et.jpg

Oh, and Thor's lightning would be the absolute worst thing for him to do, considering Magneto could just absorb the energy out of it and power himself up.

And to golem's post about Thor dropping them into another dimension. Well, Magneto has got that one easily covered. He could do the same to them, or to find their way back to the fight via a WORMHOLE!! (Excalibur Vol. 3 and X-Men: The End).

Or he could simply shut off the electrical impulses to both of their brains, along with Guardian.

Hell, I'm not even giving Guardian props for being another badass. However, I believe King Mungi will enlighten you all on how Guardian could also f*ck with them even more. Bottom line: Gladiator is Guardian's, and Thor is Magneto's.

Tommorow I will enlighten the massess

FYI...Guardian can create a wormhole as well and send people to different dimensions

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Tommorow I will enlighten the massess

Cool.

Edit: Even better with the wormhole thing. They could send them to different places at once!!!

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Tommorow I will enlighten the massess

FYI...Guardian can create a wormhole as well and send people to different dimensions So you think Guardian could beat either Gladiator or Thor?

I'm lookng forward to this.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
So you think Guardian could beat either Gladiator or Thor?

I'm lookng forward to this.

Oh, I'd believe him if I were you.

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
So you think Guardian could beat either Gladiator or Thor?

I'm lookng forward to this.

Since speedblitz is removed his chances have greatly increased.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Since speedblitz is removed his chances have greatly increased.

Also, can't Guardian go at the speed of light anyway?

Originally posted by batdude123
Also, can't Guardian go at the speed of light anyway?

Yeah, but we never saw him use it in combat. With his computer mind he probally could as he would have more control, but he's never needed to use it again which the first time he traveled at speeds faster than light and ended up thousands of years into the past.

Thor has reversed energy polarities on several occasions. Redirecting energys used against him. He could possibly reverse any magnetic energy either of them uses against him. BRB did it against ego and Thor sucked all the electromagnetic energy away from a celestial mothership. Draining off energys, reversing them or redirecting them is nothing new to Thor. Just look at what he did to hyperion. Transporting him away will do no good as he can just port back. Dimensional travel or otherwise.

Magneto and Guardian both have absolute control over the entire E-M spectrum. It's going to be hard to overcome two who are capable of such feats

Thor has absorbed and redirected enough energy to destroy a good part of the marvel universe. I dont think its beyond his ability. Maganatism is still a form of energy any way you look at it.

Sure, but this energy was enough to take down Galactus on his own

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thor has reversed energy polarities on several occasions. Redirecting energys used against him. He could possibly reverse any magnetic energy either of them uses against him. BRB did it against ego and Thor sucked all the electromagnetic energy away from a celestial mothership. Draining off energys, reversing them or redirecting them is nothing new to Thor. Just look at what he did to hyperion. Transporting him away will do no good as he can just port back. Dimensional travel or otherwise.

Um, Thor trying to redirect the EM energy coming out from both Magneto AND Guardian (that's right, Guardian controls it too), wouldn't result very well for Thor. I've shown you that Magneto was f*cking with Mjolnir and flinging it out of Thor's hand while proceeding to beat the crap out of the other members of the Avengers. And I'm not saying that Magneto would fire direct EM energy on Thor. That would pretty dumb considering what he can do with Mjolnir. However, Magneto can effect the environment better than ANYBODY. He could easily use the environment to Guardian and his advantage.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/4781/magsripsapartground8du.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/1496/magcontrolsearth2gf.jpg
http://img473.imageshack.us/img473/2991/magdropsanmountain6di.jpg

Btw, a brick like Hyperion (barring the speedblitz) isn't anything like Magneto at all. Especially since even BLINK teleporting in SAND beat him. Not to mention the other embarassing feats Hyperion has.

Again, there's the iron in the blood option for him.

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/940/magripsapartneo7do.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8623/magripsapartapocalypse4li.jpg

And COME ON!!! Sucking the life out of the PHEONIX via the bottle effect!!! That's priceless!!!

http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/2629/magdrawslifeenergy8et.jpg

Oh, and this one's just for fun.

http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=magnetoripslogansadamantiumoutqy9.jpg

Im not dismissing magneto at all. Its just that Thor has clearly shown that he can absorb. redirect, amplify or reverse just about any form of energy. Magnatism is clearly one of them. No matter what magneto tried to do he is still useing those energies to do it. Thiers absolutly no proof that he couldent do this to magneto but several feats showing he could. Thor fighting smart wouldent throw mjolnir at magneto. He wouldent give magneto many chances to mess with it. Fighting smart he would just let him use his powers them either absorb them or redirect them at him amplified. The blood trick or any of the others it dosnt matter, it still takes magnatism to do it. If he employs magnatism against Thor, Thor can defend against it. Hes done it befor. As far as the more exotic powers Thor has taken souls and moved from one body to another. Im not getting into stuff like that. Like I said thiers many examples of Thor controlling magnatism and controlling energy on a universal scale. Thier is absolutly no reason he cant do the same here. As well they dont have to direct the energy at Thor for him to absorb it. Just useing it in the vicinity is enough.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im not dismissing magneto at all. Its just that Thor has clearly shown that he can absorb. redirect, amplify or reverse just about any form of energy. Magnatism is clearly one of them. No matter what magneto tried to do he is still useing those energies to do it. Thiers absolutly no proof that he couldent do this to magneto but several feats showing he could. Thor fighting smart wouldent throw mjolnir at magneto. He wouldent give magneto many chances to mess with it. Fighting smart he would just let him use his powers them either absorb them or redirect them at him amplified. The blood trick or any of the others it dosnt matter, it still takes magnatism to do it. If he employs magnatism against Thor, Thor can defend against it. Hes done it befor.

You're making it seem like it's IMPOSSIBLE to defeat Thor via energy when I've seen it being done PLENTY of times. Thor isn't immune or anything like that to the energy output. If Magneto messes with Mjolnir and takes it out of his hand, that means Thor couldn't do anything to him.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg

With Mjolnir out of the way, Thor would be nearly helpless. And Magneto has done that TWICE so don't tell me it wouldn't be effective against Thor.

I don't even think you looked at my scans before. Effecting the environment would play a huge role in using advantages to one's side. And, as I've shown, Magneto has that done pat. He's even encased Hercules in that and sent him flying.

http://img116.imageshack.us/my.php?image=newmutants04014jc4.jpg (Note: he was even holding WAY back in that fight against the Avengers. )

And electrical blasts from Mjolnir would simply power both Magneto and Guardian up.

And Magneto can also effect stuff on a molecular level.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/2610/magtakesonplasticandceramic7lu.jpg

Guardian and Magneto ftw.

Thor isnt gonna blast them with lightning. Im sorry but you can show scans all day of magneto doing this and that but its not proof that Thor cant do what Ive stated. Im not saying its immposible to defeat Thor, Im saying its very hard to defeat him useing energy. I could show you scans of Thor doing it to SS, Thanos and many lower than them. Just jerking mjolnir from his hand may not work. It is quite possible Thor would be expecting him to try that and reverse the attack. You may not like what Im saying but you cant deny the truth of it. Hes done it on panel many, many times. Also Thor can control the enviroment to a good extent himself. He has used wins strong enough to knock Surter down ect. Blanketing an entire planet with lightning ect.

Thor can work at the molecular level to. He transformed the absorbing man into helium on one occasion. Pretty much any feat you can give for either magneto/guardian I can give one of Thors thats equal to or better. Not with magnatism mind you but overall and most likely the energy dept. Thor has controlled energy on a univeral scale, made a sun defeated both galactus and ego useing energy.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thor isnt gonna blast them with lightning.

Maybe not, however it takes away that possibility from Thor.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im sorry but you can show scans all day of magneto doing this and that but its not proof that Thor cant do what Ive stated.

Um... okay. However, I've shown more than enough evidence that Magneto could fight Thor evenly, if not, beat him. Magneto is severly underestimated here.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im not saying its immposible to defeat Thor

I hope not, considering he's DONE it before.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Im saying its very hard to defeat him useing energy.

VERY HARD, but not impossible. Hell, he's defeated Jean as the Phoenix. Don't blame me for Magneto being so powerful without any recognition.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
I could show you scans of Thor doing it to SS

Really? Well I could show you Captain Universe Spider-man's powers (who was = to the Surfer) being deflected away from Magneto with a simple gesture.

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Thanos.

How many times has Thanos punked Thor? Yeah, TOO many times...

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
Just jerking mjolnir from his hand may not work.

*Ahem*

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a140/MightilyOats/Magneto87.jpg

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
It is quite possible Thor would be expecting him to try that and reverse the attack.

That's possible, however, that kind of implies that Thor would be getting a slight amount of prep for the fight. Fact is, he's had it taken away from him before TWICE. What happened the second time?

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
You may not like what Im saying but you cant deny the truth of it. Hes done it on panel many, many times.

I know. I'm not denying it at all. However, you also can't deny the scans I'm showing you either.

No Im not denying anything you have said at all. You have presented your case well. We really have come to a impass of sorts. Both our opinions are based in fact and on panel feats. I am not really debating on the winner as I see glads as more of a *scratches head* a distraction for the other team than a real threat. Also I hate it when people use "avenger" Thor *sigh* He was so badly written there. Though I cant overlook what happened in the avenger comics either. Like in their one on one battle he cant wrest mjolnir from Thor but in the avengers he could *shrug* I dont belittle magneto at all. You have shown proof that he could beat Thor no doubt, I have proof that Thor "has already" beaten magneto*wink, wink* Like I said we both have what I think are solid opinion based on feats and facts. I guess when it comes down to it, it could go either way. I just think my ways better, LOL.

Thor and Gladiator

If Mungi can convince me otherwise, I'll proclaim him King of the World.

I got a laugh looking at this thread.
Thor and Glads 10/10.

i really don't have to do much as it's Guardian taking on Gladiator and with speedblitzed removed Guardian has the ability to lock onto Gladiator's brain functions and shut them down. His computer reflexes, and mind allow him to react with amazing accuracy, so good Madison Jeffries and Forge struggled to keep up at the same time and working together

Then there is the battle field removal option sending Gladiator away, and Guardian is very though taking nuclear explosions which he also encased a building along with Vindicator III to protect civilians. As mentioned Guardian was built to take down Galactus, and he did. His blasts are so powerful with one shot he killed Sasquatch.

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

Originally posted by MJOILNIR
No Im not denying anything you have said at all. You have presented your case well. We really have come to a impass of sorts. Both our opinions are based in fact and on panel feats. I am not really debating on the winner as I see glads as more of a *scratches head* a distraction for the other team than a real threat. Also I hate it when people use "avenger" Thor *sigh* He was so badly written there. Though I cant overlook what happened in the avenger comics either. Like in their one on one battle he cant wrest mjolnir from Thor but in the avengers he could *shrug* I dont belittle magneto at all. You have shown proof that he could beat Thor no doubt, I have proof that Thor "has already" beaten magneto*wink, wink* Like I said we both have what I think are solid opinion based on feats and facts. I guess when it comes down to it, it could go either way. I just think my ways better, LOL.

That's fair.

Originally posted by Skeets
I got a laugh looking at this thread.
Thor and Glads 10/10.

Bite me, ass.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
i really don't have to do much as it's Guardian taking on Gladiator and with speedblitzed removed Guardian has the ability to lock onto Gladiator's brain functions and shut them down. His computer reflexes, and mind allow him to react with amazing accuracy, so good Madison Jeffries and Forge struggled to keep up at the same time and working together

Then there is the battle field removal option sending Gladiator away, and Guardian is very though taking nuclear explosions which he also encased a building along with Vindicator III to protect civilians. As mentioned Guardian was built to take down Galactus, and he did. His blasts are so powerful with one shot he killed Sasquatch.

http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Guardian_I

Nice.

Originally posted by batdude123
Bite me, ass.
Meh..you're a poor man's Demiqawd.

Originally posted by Skeets
Meh..you're a poor man's Demiqawd.

Meh.

You don't get it but others do.

Originally posted by Skeets
You don't get it but others do.

Yeah, actually I do.

Then you know that you're just a bootleg version of him.

Originally posted by Skeets
Then you know that you're just a bootleg version of him.

THANKS!!!

*achoo!!!*

I miss Demigawd. That guy was taking Magneto repping to the next level.

I miss him too
always talked to him about martial arts, and helped my case with iceman alot

Originally posted by Validus
I miss Demigawd. That guy was taking Magneto repping to the next level.

He's the person I strive to be.

You strive to maintain that no matter where in the world Superman is, even if Superman is travelling at light speeds, Magneto can drain Superman's energy just by imagining it while simultaneously blocking the sunlight from reaching him so he can't re-energise?

Thor and Gladiator win.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You strive to maintain that no matter where in the world Superman is, even if Superman is travelling at light speeds, Magneto can drain Superman's energy just by imagining it while simultaneously blocking the sunlight from reaching him so he can't re-energise?

Thor and Gladiator win.

No, Superman would speedblitz Magneto before he could summon a shield up.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You strive to maintain that no matter where in the world Superman is, even if Superman is travelling at light speeds, Magneto can drain Superman's energy just by imagining it while simultaneously blocking the sunlight from reaching him so he can't re-energise?

Classic demi right there.

Originally posted by Validus
Classic demi right there. I mean batdude is like the VCD-rip of a movie equivalent of demi. If I wanted to I could probably become at least DVD-quality.

Hmm... maybe I should become the new demigawd.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I mean batdude is like the VCD-rip of a movie equivalent of demi. If I wanted to I could probably become at least DVD-quality.

Hmm... maybe I should become the new demigawd.

I don't know if that was an insult or just a comment on how much Demi used to rep Magneto up.

can I be the old Xmarksthespot?

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't know if that was an insult or just a comment on how much Demi used to rep Magneto up.
Insult

Originally posted by Blair Wind
can I be the old Xmarksthespot?

I've got dibbs on the new Blair Wind.

Compared to demi, I'd say Batdude is more like the shaky cam footage where you can see people's heads in front of the camera and/or hear the cameraman cough.

Originally posted by batdude123
I don't know if that was an insult or just a comment on how much Demi used to rep Magneto up. A little from column A, a little from column B.Originally posted by Blair Wind
can I be the old Xmarksthespot? I'm the old xmarksthespot. I suppose you could be the new xmarksthespot.

SHUT UP!!!

Originally posted by batdude123
I've got dibbs on the new Blair Wind. I thought you were poor man's demi?Originally posted by Validus
Compared to demi, I'd say Batdude is more like the shaky camera footage where you can see people's heads in front of the camera and/or hear the cameraman cough. Woah now, let's not go nuts here. I mean he's ok but at best he's cameraphone footage.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Woah now, let's not go nuts here. I mean he's ok but at best he's cameraphone footage.
Some camera phones are pretty good. Maybe a small, colorless jpg image saved at low quality?

Canadian fanboy rants aside.... Thor and Gladiator take this fairly easily

Originally posted by Validus
Some camera phones are pretty good. Maybe a small, colorless jpg image saved at low quality? I can live with that. As long as it's motion blurred by unsteady hands.

Originally posted by batdude123
No speedblitz. Which team wins this? So Thor and Glads still get to go the speed of light.
What about Gladiator vs Mags, and Thor vs Guardian?

Ya Glads and Thor win.

Glads on panel has destroyed a planet in 3 punches.
How many of those hits do you think it's going to take to break Mags shields?
Oh did I tell you confidence was truely unlimited?(eat that Hulk)
Or Glads taking a supernova?

I know what Guardian has done. I know what Thor has done.
Guardian took down a weak G.
Thor took down a weak G.
But then Thor also took down, Mangog, SS, etc.

You all suck!!!!

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I can live with that. As long as it's motion blurred by unsteady hands.
You got yourself a god damn deal!

Originally posted by bigbran
So Thor and Glads still get to go the speed of light.
What about Gladiator vs Mags, and Thor vs Guardian?

Ya Glads and Thor win.

Glads on panel has destroyed a planet in 3 punches.
How many of those hits do you think it's going to take to break Mags shields?
Oh did I tell you confidence was truely unlimited?(eat that Hulk)
Or Glads taking a supernova?

I know what Guardian has done. I know what Thor has done.
Guardian took down a weak G.
Thor took down a weak G.
But then Thor also took down, Mangog, SS, etc.

More like Magneto goes up against Thor and Guardian goes up against Gladiator.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Canadian fanboy rants aside.... Thor and Gladiator take this fairly easily



I'm from America.

Originally posted by batdude123
You all suck!!!!
We still love you thoughinlove

Originally posted by Validus
You got yourself a god damn deal! Great. The papers will be drawn up by Thursday. I'll have my people talk to your people. A pleasure as always.

Originally posted by batdude123
I'm from America.

Just take it as a compliment then......

But I was talking about Mungi

Hey, I use more scans than Demigawd did.

Originally posted by batdude123
More like Magneto goes up against Thor and Guardian goes up against Gladiator. Why's that?

Originally posted by batdude123
Hey, I use more scans than Demigawd did.
Still, Demi had longer posts filled with scientific mumbo jumbo which was great for a character based in (comic) science.

Originally posted by batdude123
Hey, I use more scans than Demigawd did. But he had more panache. More je ne sais quoi. More ludicrous claims.

Ah, I see.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Just take it as a compliment then......

But I was talking about Mungi



So everything I have claimed has no grounds to it?...hmmmm...gotta disagree with that, especially with my 40 page respect thread

Originally posted by King_Mungi
So everything I have claimed has no grounds to it?...hmmmm...gotta disagree with that, especially with my 40 page respect thread

They don't wanna admit Thor and Glads would lose....

if guardian and magneto double up shields, the thing would be nearly impossible to break. but thor at his best could easily just drain it...

gladiator is a bit of a non-factor, the jobber.

Thor, and Glads 8/10