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Fight takes place in a 1,000'x1,000'x1,000', completely indestructible cube, in which these 2 MUST remain until one of them is K.O'd or "dead".. (This means NO BFR)...


Both are bloodlusted, and DD is allowed only 1 "death".




Who wins?

not familiar with 8 th day juggernaut. how powerful was he?

Originally posted by quanchi112
not familiar with 8 th day juggernaut. how powerful was he? Powerful enough to completely toy with Thor, and own the Exemplars.

8th Day would break Doomsday, he wasn't Cyttorak but pretty damn close.

Stalemate for the rest of eternity.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Stalemate for the rest of eternity.

DD only gets 1 death... he has no time to adapt.. he loses... although he puts up hellova fight

H/P Doomsday Could withstand the full brunt of an Omega beam attack and Cost a guardian his life. I'd say they stalemate into eternity. Or Doomsday Evolves and gets Telepathic powers and wins.

doesnt he have to die to evolve? i thought he was killed by OE then came back? i may be wrong tho

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
doesnt he have to die to evolve? i thought he was killed by OE then came back? i may be wrong tho

Doomsday have never been attacked by the OE. He however did evolve from the Omega Beams.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Or Doomsday Evolves and gets Telepathic powers and wins. DD on his own has never evolved any form of TP-esque powers.

So I wouldn't really consider that an option, as it is only speculation.

Originally posted by Galan007
DD on his own has never evolved any form of TP-esque powers.

So I wouldn't really consider that an option, as it is only speculation.

According to Dan jurgens, the creator of Doomsday, He can evolve to defeat ANY foe. As shown when he beat the Radiant and in Gog Wars. As well as when he got up after a full on attack of the Omega Beams.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
According to Dan jurgens, the creator of Doomsday, He can evolve to defeat ANY foe. As shown when he beat the Radiant and in Gog Wars. As well as when he got up after a full on attack of the Omega Beams. omega beams were meh to doomsday. he didnt even die once. darkseid has lost his luster with this attack over the years.

8dj, can't believe this is up for question.

Originally posted by quanchi112
omega beams were meh to doomsday. he didnt even die once. darkseid has lost his luster with this attack over the years.

Speak when spokent too. The Omega Beams aren't the same as the Omega Effect. Which hasn't lost any of it's power. Please don't confuse the two.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
According to Dan jurgens, the creator of Doomsday, He can evolve to defeat ANY foe. As shown when he beat the Radiant and in Gog Wars. As well as when he got up after a full on attack of the Omega Beams. Neither of which involved TP-esque powers.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Speak when spokent too. The Omega Beams aren't the same as the Omega Effect. Which hasn't lost any of it's power. Please don't confuse the two. glad to have u back brohter. i bet u missed me didnt u. anyways superman stopped the omega effect with his heat vision as stated on panel. plain old heat vision.

like i said they have lost their luster over the years.

8th Day takes this. For all of his "evolution" abilities DD has never evolved past blunt force damage, which 8th Day is capable of dishing out in abundance.

Originally posted by Galan007
Neither of which involved TP-esque powers. True. But Im only going after what Dan the creator says. He says Doomsday can evolve to defeat Any foe. I guess with in reason, anyone who isn't a high tier reality manipulator would Lose. And even then, he gives DS 5/10.

Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma. mother box amped superman did nothing impressive at all.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
True. But Im only going after what Dan the creator says. He says Doomsday can evolve to defeat Any foe. I guess with in reason, anyone who isn't a high tier reality manipulator would Lose. And even then, he gives DS 5/10. Right, but we can't just assume DD would evolve to the point where he gained something like high-end TP...

Especially when there is no real evidence to suggest DD can evolve that type of power on his own.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma. It's true that DD was giving M/B enhanced Superman a beating...

But remember, 8th Day Juggs pwned Thor effortlessly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um this is H?P doomsday correct? Didn't he pretty much shrug off the punches of a Mother Box amped Superman? I'm pretty sure he isn't going down to Blunt force trauma.
Show me where it was established that Supes strength was amped by the Motherbox.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Show me where it was established that Supes strength was amped by the Motherbox. After he was enhanced by M/B, Superman made the statement:

"Hopefully I've caught up to DD's next level of evolution."


He may have ONLY been talking about only the weapons he received,

But that's all he really commented on about said enhancements.

id say they stalemate forever, DD would just evolve mid battle and both would remain unharmed. Its hard to speculate whether he would gain a power such as TP, but who knows.

Originally posted by quanchi112
mother box amped superman did nothing impressive at all.
Except survive against a being who had to be defeated with entropy.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except survive against a being who had to be defeated with entropy.

8th day Juggernaut > Superman w/motherbox.

It took Superman a long time to heal his shoulder injury, which regular Juggernaut could've healed in less than a second. Doomsday has no viable way of beating Juggernaut, at least Juggernaut has a shot at taking out Doomsday.

Originally posted by llagrok
8th day Juggernaut > Superman w/motherbox.

It took Superman a long time to heal his shoulder injury, which regular Juggernaut could've healed in less than a second. Doomsday has no viable way of beating Juggernaut, at least Juggernaut has a shot at taking out Doomsday.

Is 8th day as powerful as the Radiant or a Guardian?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Is 8th day as powerful as the Radiant or a Guardian?

Well, yeah.

Only, 8th day can't be hurt by DD.

Originally posted by llagrok
Well, yeah.

Only, 8th day can't be hurt by DD.

And DD couldn't be hurt by either the radiant or the guardian. That is all I'm saying. It's got to be a stalemate.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And DD couldn't be hurt by either the radiant or the guardian. That is all I'm saying. It's got to be a stalemate.
Did Radiant or the Guardian try blunt force damage, because that seems to be beyond DD's adaptive abilities.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did Radiant or the Guardian try blunt force damage, because that seems to be beyond DD's adaptive abilities.

NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.
Again SHOW me where he was amped beyond having weapons at his disposal.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NO. That is beyond regular DD's adaptive Abilities. This is H/P DD, who had no problem against the seriously Amped Superman with M?B.

Did Radiant employ any form of Magic? Don't think so.

You also seem to be constantly bypassing the fact that Doomsday has no way of injuring or taking out Juggernaut. He only has one death, and I doubt that is enough for him to develop in a way that will make him completely immune to magic and somehow capable of hurting Juggernaut.

Originally posted by Galan007
After he was enhanced by M/B, Superman made the statement:

"Hopefully I've caught up to DD's next level of evolution."


He may have ONLY been talking about only the weapons he received,

But that's all he really commented on about said enhancements.
That's exactly my point. He MAY have been amped or he may not have. IF he was, it MAY have been a massive amping or it MAY not have. There's nowhere near enough evidence to support nvr's statement about Supes being "seriously amped" because Waveriders statement alone is far to ambiguous to support the claim.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's exactly my point. He MAY have been amped or he may not have. IF he was, it MAY have been a massive amping or it MAY not have. There's nowhere near enough evidence to support nvr's claim of Supes being "seriously amped" because Waveriders statement alone is far to ambiguous to support the claim.

Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.

Originally posted by llagrok
Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.
I actually didn't see a single feat that was all that impressive. The most impressive thing Supes did was use the Motherbox to reprogram Waverider's time travel device.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I actually didn't see a single feat that was all that impressive. The most impressive thing Supes did was use the Motherbox to reprogram Waverider's time travel device.

I guess certain people perceive the world differently

Originally posted by llagrok
I guess certain people perceive the world differently
I admit that some of the devices the Motherbox created were kinda cool, but everything I saw came from those weapons. And all Supes really had was a sword and ultrasonics gun unless I'm mistaken.

I think I would have enjoyed Hunter Prey ALOT more if the O.E. had actually vapourised Doomsday, and he'd ressurected himself from a single cell, in a Wolverine esq fashion ! P.S. do we actually know if Eight Day Juggernaught is actually vunerable to telepathy ?

Originally posted by llagrok
Exactly, we didn't get to see a lot of feats.

The motherbox is supposed to boost up his healing capabilities. It took him ages to regenerate a wounded shoulder. Superman doesn't have a lot of impressive feats with the motherbox.

IMO he should have been near undefeatable with the Motherbox, and the fight should have been alot more Dramatic. Hunter Prey had ALOT of potential but was incredibly underwhelming. Id love Grant Morisson/Geoff Johns to do an ALLSTAR re-telling which makes the story as epic as it should be. Darksied, Doomsday, Cyborg Superman and Kal El should be a rescipy for Gold, and yet all we goit was an Average Superman tale.

Originally posted by darthgoober
That's exactly my point. He MAY have been amped or he may not have. IF he was, it MAY have been a massive amping or it MAY not have. There's nowhere near enough evidence to support nvr's statement about Supes being "seriously amped" because Waveriders statement alone is far to ambiguous to support the claim. Yeah.

The most significant enhancements I saw, were the weapons Superman recieved.... Not too much more. ermm

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah.

The most significant enhancements I saw, were the weapons Superman recieved.... Not too much more. ermm

As you know though the mother box is probably the most powerful device available to God or human. Its basically a living Deus Ex machina .

Originally posted by Supermanluv
As you know though the mother box is probably the most powerful device available to God or human. Its basically a living Deus Ex machina . Never said otherwise.

Just said Superman didn't do anything with it.

8dj seems to be the only one here who can actually inflict some damage.

Originally posted by Galan007
Never said otherwise.

Just said Superman didn't do anything with it.

I know, which is why the story sucked, amongst other things.

Does anybody knwo whether Eight Day Juggernaught is actually vunerable to telepathy ?

Originally posted by Galan007
Never said otherwise.

Just said Superman didn't do anything with it.
Then what was the point of it? The MB don't work with anyone telling them what to do. They are like a uru hammer with a mind of thier own. And they can even create weapons. Don't they amp the users strength and healing factor? We also don't know if the Omega beams are blunt force trauma or energy. DS changes thier use all of the time. What is the biggest feat of the 8th day juggernaut?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What is the biggest feat of the 8th day juggernaut? Defeating Thor and the Exemplars rather easily.

Originally posted by Supermanluv
Does anybody knwo whether Eight Day Juggernaught is actually vunerable to telepathy ? Unknown.

Originally posted by Galan007
Defeating Thor and the Exemplars rather easily.

I think i have that book. IT was when he had his team right? I didn't think he was anything special. I thought every one kinda jobbered to him. Especially the chick with the mind powers. She seemed much more impressive.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I think i have that book. IT was when he had his team right? I didn't think he was anything special. I thought every one kinda jobbered to him. Especially the chick with the mind powers. She seemed much more impressive.

well you might need to read the book again because he was extremely powerful in it.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I think i have that book. IT was when he had his team right? I didn't think he was anything special. I thought every one kinda jobbered to him. Jobbed?

He beat each of them one by one.... Without too much trouble.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Especially the chick with the mind powers. She seemed much more impressive. She tried to gain control over Juggy...

She failed.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I think i have that book. IT was when he had his team right? I didn't think he was anything special. I thought every one kinda jobbered to him. Especially the chick with the mind powers. She seemed much more impressive.

When he did have his team?

What team are you referring to? Juggernaut never really teamed up with the exemplars.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jobbed?

He beat each of them one by one.... Without too much trouble.

She tried to gain control over Juggy...

She failed.

Considering he had been using his powers much longer than any of the other avatars, I'd say It wasn't that impressive of a feat. I gather Superman could beat every one he beat. With even more ease. I say this is a stalemate. That story was cool tho.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Considering he had been using his powers much longer than any of the other avatars, I'd say It wasn't that impressive of a feat. I gather Superman could beat every one he beat. With even more ease. I say this is a stalemate. That story was cool tho.

Beat every one of them? They beat Thor and Hercules as well as a couple of other avengers. Granted Superman could easily beat some of them, as a couple had complete crap powers.

Originally posted by llagrok
Beat every one of them? They beat Thor and Hercules as well as a couple of other avengers. Granted Superman could easily beat some of them, as a couple had complete crap powers.

Yeah. Superman could beat all of them one by one. Hell even a few of them together. The only ones I see giving him any trouble would be that wind chick, the fighter chick, and the inventor. at any rate, 8th Day juggs seems no more impressive than H/P doomsday. I say it's a tie.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yeah. Superman could beat all of them one by one. Hell even a few of them together. The only ones I see giving him any trouble would be that wind chick, the fighter chick, and the inventor. at any rate, 8th Day juggs seems no more impressive than H/P doomsday. I say it's a tie.

How is it a tie?

Juggernaut can hurt Doomsday, Doomsday can't hurt him.

Ignore what -never- is saying. Superman cant beat no exemplers, thats plain and simple. If he knew of there power he wouldnt be saying that. Each exempler had enough power that it was stated that they had the same amount of power thor has to rival him and thor power is >>>> superman (not saying that thor would stomp superman just saying thor possess more raw power). Juggernaut busted through them and through thor with ease.

Superman cant pull none of the feats that eigth day pulled since eigth day durability is >>>>supermans.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I gather Superman could beat every one he beat. With even more ease. It's extremely arguable whether or not Superman could even beat Thor.

Let alone beat him this easily:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day3.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day4.jpg


So what you said is quite untrue.

Originally posted by carver9
Ignore what -never- is saying. Superman cant beat no exemplers, thats plain and simple. If he knew of there power he wouldnt be saying that. Each exempler had enough power that it was stated that they had the same amount of power thor has to rival him and thor power is >>>> superman (not saying that thor would stomp superman just saying thor possess more raw power). Juggernaut busted through them and through thor with ease.

Superman cant pull none of the feats that eigth day pulled since eigth day durability is >>>>supermans.

If Juggs was so durable, then how come most of the story he was out of it? And Thor's power output is not >>>>>>>>>>>>Superman. Not even close.

Originally posted by Galan007
It's extremely arguable whether or not Superman could even beat Thor.

Let alone beat him this easily:

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day2.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day3.jpg http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff191/Galan_photos/th_8th_day4.jpg


So what you said is quite untrue.

We have different perceptions. Superman beats Thor due to extreme power and Speed.

Superman wasn't referring to his powers being amped by the motherbox, he was referring to the upgrade he got when he was revived from what they thought to be dead. When he came back, all of his powers were stronger than they were before. The only thing the motherbox did was monitor his internals, repair damage, try and counter the poison in Doomsday's claws, etc.. His strength upgrade was from resurrecting himself from dead, as it were.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If Juggs was so durable, then how come most of the story he was out of it? What do you mean by "out of it?"

Juggs was arguably at his most powerful during the 8th Day arc.

Trion Juggs > 8th Day.

IMO.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Trion Juggs > 8th Day.

IMO.
Exactly. I fthis were Trion, I'd say him all day any day. But it's not. ANd Gog wars DD> H/P DD.

Originally posted by SnazzySmurph
Trion Juggs > 8th Day.

IMO. That's why I said "arguably."


I really wasn't too impressed with what Trion Juggs actually did on panel though, (all he really did that impressed me was bust through reality).

juggeranut takes this with ease

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We have different perceptions. Superman beats Thor due to extreme power and Speed.

I wish i can use bigger faces but I'll have to do with what i got.



This is the funniest post i have seen in a long time. Superman possess more power than thor.

Originally posted by carver9
I wish i can use bigger faces but I'll have to do with what i got.



This is the funniest post i have seen in a long time. Superman possess more power than thor.


he does

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
If Juggs was so durable, then how come most of the story he was out of it? And Thor's power output is not >>>>>>>>>>>>Superman. Not even close.

You havent read the book, i can tell.

By the way, you know nothing of superman and thor. Thor has waaaaaay more power than superman, create storms, create astral forms of himself, teleportation, create force fields, lightning, create hail, god blast, shoot cosmic blast, take away a persons magical powers (example, temporarily took juggernaut power away from him), that is just some of the things that he can do.

Read more on thor.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
We have different perceptions. Superman beats Thor due to extreme power and Speed.

You realize that Juggs pretty much one-shotted Thor, don't you?



If you think Superman could do anything near that, then I'll just stop now.

Originally posted by HereComesRandal
he does

What extreme power is superman going to use to beat thor. I can tell you one way thor can beat superman, a magic hammer to the head, you know like when captain marvel hit superman across the head twice, koing him.

Originally posted by Galan007


You realize that Juggs pretty much one-shotted Thor, don't you?



If you think Superman could do anything near that, then I'll just stop now.

you might as well stop because never is a huge superman fan.

I thought trion was officially stated the same as classic/8th day in terms of strength, he just had access to ALL of Cyttoraks powers enabling him to preform tasks requiring mystic energy (busting a whole through reality). but again 8th day wins this with ease

Originally posted by Hannibal-Lector
I thought trion was officially stated the same as classic/8th day in terms of strength, he just had access to ALL of Cyttoraks powers enabling him to preform tasks requiring mystic energy (busting a whole through reality). but again 8th day wins this with ease

Well classic juggernaut was stated as having unlimited strength so i guess you cant get any stronger than that. So his strength was the same, if anyone care to explain, what was different because classic juggernaut could have taken all of that that was thrown at him by thor and the exemplers.

Originally posted by carver9
if anyone care to explain, what was different because classic juggernaut could have taken all of that that was thrown at him by thor and the exemplers. In the scans I posted on page #3, Thor comments on Juggy's strength:

"His might hath swelled a hundred fold!"


And also, when Classic Juggs and Thor battled in the early days, Juggs didn't beat Thor anywhere near as easily as 8th Day Juggs did.

IMO the differences are:
Helmet smaller (or at least in looks)
He has more overall mass
He felt better (kinda how you feel on a opposed to say a Monday mornin)

Originally posted by carver9
you might as well stop because never is a huge superman fan.

I hate Superman.

Originally posted by Galan007


You realize that Juggs pretty much one-shotted Thor, don't you?



If you think Superman could do anything near that, then I'll just stop now.

Yes he could KO thor with one blow. A person of my same strength and durability can KO me. Superman is stronger and faster than thor. He can drop thor in one hit if he gets lucky. not even Thanos has dropped Thor in one hit. he's smacked him around. Thor Jobbered to 8th day. it was in fact, juggy's story.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes he could KO thor with one blow. A person of my same strength and durability can KO me. Superman is stronger and faster than thor. He can drop thor in one hit if he gets lucky. not even Thanos has dropped Thor in one hit. he's smacked him around. Thor Jobbered to 8th day. it was in fact, juggy's story.

I would like to ask you something. What is it that makes you think that superman is stronger than thor. What has thor tried to lift but failed and you think that superman could lift because they are equal in strength.

When you tell me these things then maybe i would agree to superman being stronger than thor but until then you aint doing nothing but guess. Now i do give the speed advantage to superman and I also think that superman is the greatest hero ever, Ill give him that edge also but power goes to thor. The only person on jla that possess more power or could be equal to thor in power is green lantern.

By the way never it has been a fact that you are a huge superman fan.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Yes he could KO thor with one blow. A person of my same strength and durability can KO me. Superman is stronger and faster than thor. He can drop thor in one hit if he gets lucky. not even Thanos has dropped Thor in one hit. he's smacked him around. Thor Jobbered to 8th day. it was in fact, juggy's story. This is laughable, at best.

And from this one statement, I now understand there is no point in trying to debate logically with you, where this type of thing is concerned.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is laughable, at best.

And from this one statement, I now understand there is no point in trying to debate logically with you, where this type of thing is concerned.

I told you. He knows nothing of thor and he upgrade superman all the time.

Originally posted by carver9
By the way never it has been a fact that you are a huge superman fan.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is fabulous. I hate Superman but that feat cannot be denied. He freaking Heated and cooled some kind of star thingy. And had a planets worth of pressure on his dome.

ermm

Trust me, he dont hate superman. The guy thinks superman can beat thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
Trust me, he dont hate superman. The guy thinks superman can beat thanos.

That is the dummest thing i've heard. Superman can give thanos a hell of a fight. As could Thor or Silver surfer if surfer weren't such and idiot. you have never heard me say superman beats thanos. you should be banned for having dirt in your eye. it's causing you to not see clearly.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
That is the dummest thing i've heard. Superman can give thanos a hell of a fight. As could Thor or Silver surfer if surfer weren't such and idiot. you have never heard me say superman beats thanos. you should be banned for having dirt in your eye. it's causing you to not see clearly. watch the insults never. that was uncalled for im warning u. learn from ur past mistakes. dont insult debate please.

Originally posted by quanchi112
watch the insults never. that was uncalled for im warning u. learn from ur past mistakes. dont insult debate please.

Get lost. You aren't warning me of anything. I dind't say he was a dummy, and I didn't insult him. now shut up.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Get lost. You aren't warning me of anything. I dind't say he was a dummy, and I didn't insult him. now shut up. u told him he should be banned. dont be like u used to. thats what got u banned. im looking out for u here. just dont insult.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u told him he should be banned. dont be like u used to. thats what got u banned. im looking out for u here. just dont insult.

Um I can say he should be banned. Don't look out for me. I do not like oyu. i would rather swin in razors naked than you look out for me. I would rather throw my limbs in a wood chipper than you look out for me. I would rather drink the suns liquid radiation than you look out for me. I'd rather be condemned to hell in Gasoline underwear than you look out for me. dont' do me any favors. If he is going to tell me what I said and can't even quote me correctly, then he needs to be banned. And you should be banned for trying to be the forum police.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um I can say he should be banned. Don't look out for me. I do not like oyu. i would rather swin in razors naked than you look out for me. I would rather throw my limbs in a wood chipper than you look out for me. I would rather drink the suns liquid radiation than you look out for me. I'd rather be condemned to hell and Gasoline underwear than you look out for me. dont' do me any favors. If he is going to tell me what I said and can't even quote me correctly, then he needs to be banned. And you should be banned for trying to be the forum police. never im not going to report you. clam down and dont insult again. im looking our for you. obey the rules ok. u werent before and were just insulting becuz u got so angry with dissenters. i dont hate u while u hate me.

we are supposed to have fun here. u have no right to insult anyone on here. debate dont insult. take my advice.

Originally posted by quanchi112
never im not going to report you. clam down and dont insult again. im looking our for you. obey the rules ok. u werent before and were just insulting becuz u got so angry with dissenters. i dont hate u while u hate me.

we are supposed to have fun here. u have no right to insult anyone on here. debate dont insult. take my advice.

Oh please report. what are you going to say I said? Are you going to say I insulted someone? exactly what did I say that was insulting? Please show us? how about I report you for being a troll and flamer. Obviously you throwing around warnings when you are not a mod is flaming. I think I will.

Guys, calm down, seriously, or i'm closing the thread...

that applies to EVERYONE.

Quanchi wasn't bashing at all, Nvr. You started that one, and Quanchi warned for you to stop because he doesn't want you banned and knew someone would bring it us. No need for the hostility.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Quanchi wasn't bashing at all, Nvr. You started that one, and Quanchi warned for you to stop because he doesn't want you banned and knew someone would bring it us. No need for the hostility. thank you rex. im not trying to act like a mod but just want all the insults to stop as do you.

my knew saying is dont hate debate.

Catchphrase!

Originally posted by Captain REX
Catchphrase! you betcha

Originally posted by Captain REX
Quanchi wasn't bashing at all, Nvr. You started that one, and Quanchi warned for you to stop because he doesn't want you banned and knew someone would bring it us. No need for the hostility.

Well I thought the guy was bashing me. He obviously was saying that I don't hate Superman. A blatant lie. Everyone knows my distain for Superman. And had the nerver to say I was basically lying. So I accused him of having dirt in his eye, meaning he wasn't reading clearly. Cuz Superman to me, Ruins DC. Sorry, I know some of our mods love Superman. But he sucks booger popsickles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thank you rex. im not trying to act like a mod but just want all the insults to stop as do you.

my knew saying is dont hate debate.



The best way for me to not hate you is to not debate with you.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Um I can say he should be banned. Don't look out for me. I do not like oyu. i would rather swin in razors naked than you look out for me. I would rather throw my limbs in a wood chipper than you look out for me. I would rather drink the suns liquid radiation than you look out for me. I'd rather be condemned to hell in Gasoline underwear than you look out for me. dont' do me any favors. If he is going to tell me what I said and can't even quote me correctly, then he needs to be banned. And you should be banned for trying to be the forum police.

wow, talk about being melodramatic

Originally posted by masterbruce
wow, talk about being melodramatic

I'm a queer. It's my broadway in Chicago Side.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Well I thought the guy was bashing me. He obviously was saying that I don't hate Superman. A blatant lie. Everyone knows my distain for Superman. And had the nerver to say I was basically lying. So I accused him of having dirt in his eye, meaning he wasn't reading clearly. Cuz Superman to me, Ruins DC. Sorry, I know some of our mods love Superman. But he sucks booger popsickles. when was i talking about anything about superman. i know u hate superman. i dont know u thought that is what i was talking about. i wasnt calling u a liar. i dont hate u. lets let it all go in the past. no hard feelings. its just pointless fun in here.
i dont want u to get in trouble anymore and i feel like u have kinda learned ur lesson somewhat. im looking out for u.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The best way for me to not hate you is to not debate with you. if thats what u want just ignore my posts. i always respond to things but if u dont want to respond back its fine with me.

dont hate,debate.

Eighth Day ftw.

What in Gods name does 8th Day have that puts him over H/P doomsday? Isn't this the same Doomsday that Beat up skyfathers and killed entire superman lvl armies? 8th day beat up some top tiers.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What in Gods name does 8th Day have that puts him over H/P doomsday? Isn't this the same Doomsday that Beat up skyfathers and killed entire superman lvl armies? 8th day beat up some top tiers. just cuz doomsay beat up ds. i mean superman has done this and so had raker. lots of weaker people pound on ds.

Originally posted by quanchi112
This user is on ignore.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
if im on ignore u dont have to respond to me but ill respond to u is all.

ps ill never ignore anyone who disagrees with me . ever.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What in Gods name does 8th Day have that puts him over H/P doomsday? Isn't this the same Doomsday that Beat up skyfathers and killed entire superman lvl armies? 8th day beat up some top tiers. 8th Day was pretty much = Cytorrak.

Wouldn't this just be a huge stalemate?

Originally posted by Galan007
8th Day was pretty much = Cytorrak.

unfortunately cytorak can't do jack to HP DD

Originally posted by Hercules
Wouldn't this just be a huge stalemate?

prob not, HP DD will win eventually

Originally posted by masterbruce
prob not, HP DD will win eventually

How?

Honest question, I don't know that much about HP DD.

Originally posted by masterbruce
unfortunately cytorak can't do jack to HP DD Based on?
Originally posted by masterbruce
prob not, HP DD will win eventually How?

Originally posted by Hercules
How?

Honest question, I don't know that much about HP DD.

DD is all about evolving to kill and destroy.

He once had trouble with a being of pure energy but later on evolved so that he could disrupt the energy and killed the energy guardian.

against Juggs, DD might eventually develop psychic powers to crush juggs mentally

Originally posted by Galan007
Based on?
How?

based on the fact that the ONLY way Superman and Darkseid thought they could defeat DD was to send him to entropy.

Getting more firepower or allies would have made no difference as DD would just evolve beyond.

Sure Cytorrak may own DD for a coupla rounds, but DD will surely get the last laugh.

Originally posted by masterbruce
DD is all about evolving to kill and destroy.

He once had trouble with a being of pure energy but later on evolved so that he could disrupt the energy and killed the energy guardian.

against Juggs, DD might eventually develop psychic powers to crush juggs mentally

Hmm, I always thought he evolved an immunity to what killed him rather than developed powers on the fly?

Originally posted by masterbruce
against Juggs, DD might eventually develop psychic powers to crush juggs mentally That's the key word.

There's really NO substance behind that statement though, as DD has never evolved any type of mental powers to overwhelm his opponent. .

If we are to stick with this type of 'reasoning', I could say that since there is NO evidence 8th Day Juggs was vulnerable to TP, those type of attacks wouldn't work anyway.



See why that's a faulty way to debate things like this?

Originally posted by Hercules
Hmm, I always thought he evolved an immunity to what killed him rather than developed powers on the fly?

no he evolves offensive powers as well

in his second battle with superman, to account for superman's mobility and flight, DD was now able to shoot out the bony spurs from his fists

also, the Hunter Prey version (the toughest version imo) was starting to evolve on the fly, as opposed to after death

Originally posted by masterbruce
based on the fact that the ONLY way Superman and Darkseid thought they could defeat DD was to send him to entropy.

Getting more firepower or allies would have made no difference as DD would just evolve beyond.

Sure Cytorrak may own DD for a coupla rounds, but DD will surely get the last laugh. DD is allowed ONLY 1 death/K.O.

Originally posted by Galan007
That's the key word.

There's really NO substance behind that statement though, as DD has never evolved any type of mental powers to overwhelm his opponent. .

If we are to stick with this type of 'reasoning', I could say that since there is NO evidence 8th Day Juggs was vulnerable to TP, those type of attacks wouldn't work anyway.



See why that's a faulty way to debate things like this?

no, nothing faulty.

DD's battle against the energy guardian PROVES that he will evolve the capabilities necessary to take out his enemies by evolving offenses suited to their weaknesses.

Had that battle not happened, we might assume DD was limited to evolving only to get stronger and what not. But that battle shows that DD is capable of evolutions that are outside the mere phyiscal changes.

Originally posted by Galan007
DD is allowed ONLY 1 death/K.O.

hmmm then its kinda tricky

can Cytorrak take down a being who laughed off the OE?

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, nothing faulty.

DD's battle against the energy guardian PROVES that he will evolve the capabilities necessary to take out his enemies by evolving offenses suited to their weaknesses.

Had that battle not happened, we might assume DD was limited to evolving only to get stronger and what not. But that battle shows that DD is capable of evolutions that are outside the mere phyiscal changes. Cool, then it goes back to this:
Originally posted by Galan007
If we are to stick with this type of 'reasoning', I could say that since there is NO evidence 8th Day Juggs was vulnerable to TP, those type of attacks wouldn't work anyway.

Now what?

Originally posted by masterbruce
no he evolves offensive powers as well

in his second battle with superman, to account for superman's mobility and flight, DD was now able to shoot out the bony spurs from his fists

also, the Hunter Prey version (the toughest version imo) was starting to evolve on the fly, as opposed to after death

I just read about the superman thing and he also used fire breath on Martian Manhunter it apears.

Puts an interesting spin on things indeed.

Originally posted by Galan007
DD is allowed ONLY 1 death/K.O.

also, the HP DD was evolving on the fly, so he doesnt need death to get stronger anymore

Originally posted by masterbruce
hmmm then its kinda tricky

can Cytorrak take down a being who laughed off the OE? DD took the Omega Beams.

Not the Omega Effect.

Originally posted by Hercules
I just read about the superman thing and he also used fire breath on Martian Manhunter it apears.

Puts an interesting spin on things indeed. That was DD Rex.... Not the same.

Originally posted by Galan007
That was DD Rex.... Not the same.

Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool, then it goes back to this:


Now what?

it doesnt matter if 8th day isnt vulnerable to TP, because surely he has some other weakness or limit. DD will find that limit through the course of battle and exploit it.

Originally posted by masterbruce
also, the HP DD was evolving on the fly, so he doesnt need death to get stronger anymore I'm not talking about his evolution.

I'm talking about his ability to be momentarily killed/K.O'd through sheer physical force in the past. .

Physical force is something Juggy has an abundence of.

Originally posted by Hercules
Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist I know.

Originally posted by Hercules
Too many Damn Doomsdays! durfist

to me, HP DD was the last time we saw the real DD. I think the writers got scared of how dangerous DD was so they basically removed his fangs in all later iterations.

Originally posted by masterbruce
it doesnt matter if 8th day isnt vulnerable to TP, because surely he has some other weakness or limit. DD will find that limit through the course of battle and exploit it. By your line of reasoning,

Since Juggy never showed ANY type of vulnerabilities, he has none.


Now what?

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm not talking about his evolution.

I'm talking about his ability to be momentarily killed/K.O'd through sheer physical force in the past. .

Physical force is something Juggy has an abundence of.

what evidence do you have that DD could even be killed by physical force again?

Originally posted by masterbruce
what evidence do you have that DD could even be killed by physical force again? What evidence do you have that he can't. (See what I did there?)

Originally posted by Galan007
By your line of reasoning,

Juggy never showed ANY type of vulnerabilities, therefore, he has none.

no, Juggy never showed any type of vulnerabilities against the weak foes he faced. Just because the XMen cant do squat to him doesnt mean he has no vulnerbilities.

Even Onslaught was able to humiliate Juggs.

And we know Cytorrak HAS vulnerabilities because there are beings more powerful than him.

Originally posted by Galan007
What evidence do you have that he can't. (See what I did there?)

my evidence that he can't is that DD's unique power is to evolve so that the same method can't kill him again.

checkmate.

Originally posted by masterbruce
no, Juggy never showed any type of vulnerabilities against the weak foes he faced. Just because the XMen cant do squat to him doesnt mean he has no vulnerbilities.Do you know who 8th Day Juggs is?

Because by this post, it sounds like you don't.

8th Day Juggy pretty much one shotted Thor, and picked apart the Exemplars with ease.

And if Thor's word is to be taken literally, then 8th Day Juggernaut's power "doth swelled a hundred fold", since their previous encounter.

"weak foes he faced" lol.

Originally posted by masterbruce
Even Onslaught was able to humiliate Juggs.That wasn't 8th Day Juggs.

Therefore quite irrevelent in this debate.

Originally posted by masterbruce
And we know Cytorrak HAS vulnerabilities because there are beings more powerful than him. Vulnerabilities DD can exploit?

I never saw anything suggesting this.

Originally posted by masterbruce
my evidence that he can't is that DD's unique power is to evolve so that the same method can't kill him again.

checkmate. Good thing Juggs would only need to kill or K.O him once, ey?


"checkmate" lol

Originally posted by Galan007
Good thing Juggs would only need to kill or K.O him once, ey?


"checkmate" lol

I'd say a guardian is more than one times more powerful than classic juggs. and So is DS. by that reasoning, H/P doomsday still has the better feats.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I'd say a guardian is more than one times more powerful than classic juggs. and So is DS. by that reasoning, H/P doomsday still has the better feats. What Guardian?

The one from the DD annual?

Originally posted by Galan007
What Guardian?

The one from the DD annual? all gaurdians are more than a hundred times more powerful than a GL. any GL is a match for juggernaut in his regular form. thus i'm saying a guardian is about as the level thor says the juggs was. since dd beat a guardian AND DS, who is far more powerful than classic juggs, my reasoning is that DD wins this match.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
all gaurdians are more than a hundred times more powerful than a GL. any GL is a match for juggernaut in his regular form. thus i'm saying a guardian is about as the level thor says the juggs was. since dd beat a guardian AND DS, who is far more powerful than classic juggs, my reasoning is that DD wins this match. What I'm asking is if you're referring to the Guardian DD "beat" during the DD Annual?

Originally posted by Galan007
What I'm asking is if you're referring to the Guardian DD "beat" during the DD Annual?
The one that killed himself trying to rid DD from the planet.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The one that killed himself trying to rid DD from the planet. Yeah, that was from the DD Annual.


Just so you know,

DD had a GL ring when he battled the Guardian in that issue.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, that was from the DD Annual.

Just so you know,

DD had a GL ring when he battled the Guardian and all those GL's.

I know. the ring didn't add much. And DD didn't have a ring when he beat DS. Who by the way managed to one shot hank henshaw while weakend. Thus my stance is still that H/P doomsday is at least one hundred times stronger than classic juggs.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The one that killed himself trying to rid DD from the planet. im utterly amazed at how or why they couldnt banish doomsday. i mean he was tied to a freaking asteroid and was no trouble till he got lose. what kind of dummies cant get rid of doomsday. it should be simple. all these great minds dont know how to put their version of jason voorhees down.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know. the ring didn't add much. Yes it did.

I'm looking at the issue right now.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yes it did.

I'm looking at the issue right now.

how much could it add. doomsday is an idiot. It was his adaptive powers that learned how to use the rings energy. energy is a specialty of DD.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
how much could it add. doomsday is an idiot. It was his adaptive powers that learned how to use the rings energy. energy is a specialty of DD. doomsday is an idiot and this is another reason why i dont see darkseid as one of the greatest dc minds out there. he couldnt figure out a way with all his resources to banish doomsday.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
how much could it add. doomsday is an idiot. It was his adaptive powers that learned how to use the rings energy. energy is a specialty of DD. The ring is what made DD able to compete with a Guardian in the first place.

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