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1. Hela
2. Pluto
3. Both at same time.

Who wins?

Hela/Pluto in there realms are sky father level.
outside they are herald level

Thanos wins.

Even Thor alone has handled them before (though not at the same time), Thanos can do this for sure.

Team 2, pretty hard.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Team 2, pretty hard. How so?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Team 2, pretty hard.

1. Hela
2. Pluto
3. Both at same time.

1 and 2 are 1 vs 1.

1. Hela
2. Thanos
3. Team

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
1. Hela
2. Thanos
3. Team no. hela loses imo

I honestly can't choose.
but I like Thanos better so him

Originally posted by The Nuul
1. Hela
2. Pluto
3. Both at same time.

1 and 2 are 1 vs 1.

Aah right.

1. Hela 6/10
2. Pluto 2-3/10
3. Team 9/10 ish.

Thor has put both of these down right Kris? On a one v one basis. Yet you feel Thanos couldn't and gave Hela the wins? No way. Thanos wins this

^Pluto yes, iirc, hela no.

edit: well, if you count the time thor snatched hela's cloak from her...then yes.

Hela and Pluto wins

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
^Pluto yes, iirc, hela no.

edit: well, if you count the time thor snatched hela's cloak from her...then yes.

Outside of her realm he has under hes own power.

Originally posted by The Nuul
1. Hela
2. Pluto
3. Both at same time.

Who wins?
KMC standard battle grounds:

1. Hela, I haven't seen her fight before, maybe in classic Thor comics, no clue here.

2. Thanos can take on Pluto on equal grounds, Pluto had trouble with Thor, where Thanos easily beaten him.

3. I would say team wins, like in #2, Pluto isn't going down by a stomp.

when has pluto fought thor? any scans

1- Thanos completly waste her. She isn't as powerful as her husband, nor Pluto and Poseidon.
2- Split. Pluto isn't on par with Zeus, but he's not far behind. I would say it's a great match.
3- Team. It's just too much.

1.Thanos
2.Thanos
3.Team

pluto and hela are exact equals. that being said whats the biggest feat from anyone of them?

Originally posted by galactusischere
I honestly can't choose.
but I like Thanos better so him

The majority of this forum in a nutshell. Tempted to profile.

Pluto written well is Skyfather level (building a omniversal black hole, Beating the Stranger(4th face of the tribunal), Beating the eye of agamotto, moving an entire race from an alternate universe etc) Hela is his equal so team 2 wins

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
Pluto written well is Skyfather level (building a omniversal black hole, Beating the Stranger(4th face of the tribunal), Beating the eye of agamotto, moving an entire race from an alternate universe etc) Hela is his equal so team 2 wins We've seen Thor beat him and we know he's well beneath Zeus and we've seen Thor best hela so Thanos wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We've seen Thor beat him and we know he's well beneath Zeus and we've seen Thor best hela so Thanos wins. He is not well below zeus.
and all the times thor beat him is PIS or Plot device, don forget when he invaded asgard by himself to claim Odins soul they had to revive Odin to save every one.

^ Zeus?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
He is not well below zeus.
and all the times thor beat him is PIS or Plot device, don forget when he invaded asgard by himself to claim Odins soul they had to revive Odin to save every one. No, in fact it's not. Pluto himself concedes Zeus is mightier. You really are ignorant and do nothing more than beg for scans and misrepresent the actual facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, in fact it's not. Pluto himself concedes Zeus is mightier. You really are ignorant and do nothing more than beg for scans and misrepresent the actual facts. thats why i have every single comic with olympions stored on my computer right?
and zeus is not that much mightier. pluto has once invaded olympus and nearly overthrew zeus. He has feats putting him in skyfather level he beat the whole defenders who had people like silver surfer, dr stranger ,hulk etc easily. and he even beat the hell out of the Stranger

so how ignorant is it to say thor can beat a guy that wiped the floor with the defenders?
or better yet a guy who created a multiversal black hole?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
thats why i have every single comic with olympions stored on my computer right?
and zeus is not that much mightier. pluto has once invaded olympus and nearly overthrew zeus. He has feats putting him in skyfather level he beat the whole defenders who had people like silver surfer, dr stranger ,hulk etc easily. and he even beat the hell out of the Stranger

so how ignorant is it to say thor can beat a guy that wiped the floor with the defenders? Through plot devices and clever planning. It's like saying Loki can take down odin and leaving out his clever planning. Zeus and Odin are far greater than Pluto.


Thor wrecked him. Thor's best feats crap all over this as he has defeated a weakened Galactus and crushed Pluto and Ares at the same time when he took the kiddie gloves off.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Through plot devices and clever planning. It's like saying Loki can take down odin and leaving out his clever planning. Zeus and Odin are far greater than Pluto.


Thor wrecked him. Thor's best feats crap all over this as he has defeated a weakened Galactus and crushed Pluto and Ares at the same time when he took the kiddie gloves off. plutos best feat puts him far above thor. and none of those were plot devices.
lets see thor create a multiversal black hole then,

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
plutos best feat puts him far above thor. and none of those were plot devices.
lets see thor create a multiversal black hole then Thor has bested Pluto quite easily when he was all out with aid. Thor's beat up Galactus before and his feats far outshine Pluto's. You got nothing as usual. You leave out context because you really lack a credible case.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor has bested Pluto quite easily when he was all out with aid. Thor's beat up Galactus before and his feats far outshine Pluto's. You got nothing as usual. You leave out context because you really lack a credible case. so your just going to ignore plutos feats and just base everything off 2 fights they had that was PIS?
pluto would shitstomp thor any day unless its PIS

thor beating galactus is also PIs and very ignorant of you to bring that up

you didnt answer the question. can thor create a multiversal black hole?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
pluto and hela are exact equals.


Sir, you are wrong.

Zeus is the mightiest and his bros, Neptune and Pluto tie at the second most powerful of Olympus.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
so your just going to ignore plutos feats and just base everything off 2 fights they had that was PIS?
pluto would shitstomp thor any day unless its PIS

thor beating galactus is also PIs and very ignorant of you to bring that up

you didnt answer the question. can thor create a multiversal black hole? How is it pis when he was shown to be a beast in the entire blood and thunder arc?

Basically you just said despite what happens in comics Pulto should win making your own opinion meaningless.


You brought up high moments so why can't I? It seems all of Thor's awesome feats don't count, eh? You really are ignorant.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Sir, you are wrong.

Zeus is the mightiest and his bros, Neptune and Pluto tie at the second most powerful of Olympus. what does that have to do with me saying pluto and hela are equals?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what does that have to do with me saying pluto and hela are equals? You said a few posts up he is not well below Zeus even though he is.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what does that have to do with me saying pluto and hela are equals?

Hela isn't in the same ballpark as the bros, who seperate the power of the sky, the water and the subterrans (Hell) at the beginning.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How is it pis when he was shown to be a beast in the entire blood and thunder arc?

Basically you just said despite what happens in comics Pulto should win making your own opinion meaningless.


You brought up high moments so why can't I? It seems all of Thor's awesome feats don't count, eh? You really are ignorant. pluto has also beat.
the time he invaded asgard he was about to kill thor untill the norns combined ther might to destroy his axe and still then it didnt stop him, they had to get Odin to stop him and pluto said to odin "my fight with you would be soon but not today"

you sir are ignorant

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Hela isn't in the same ballpark as the bros, who seperate the power of the sky, the water and the subterrans (Hell) at the beginning. well i was refearing to when they stalemated but yea your right.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
pluto has also beat.
the time he invaded asgard he was about to kill thor untill the norns combined ther might to destroy his axe and still then it didnt stop him, they had to get Odin to stop him and pluto said to odin "my fight with you would be soon but not today"

you sir are ignorant Yes, he barely held an advantage one time. I am not saying he can't beat Thor but if Thor goes all out and takes off the gloves he's raping him like in blood and thunder. At Thor's usual normal self it's quite even but with Thor at his best he rapes the brah.

Says the guy who begged me for cronus scans.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he barely held an advantage one time. I am not saying he can't beat Thor but if Thor goes all out and takes off the gloves he's raping him like in blood and thunder. At Thor's usual normal self it's quite even but with Thor at his best he rapes the brah.

Says the guy who begged me for cronus scans. i dont have dc scans, only marvel.
and no thor is not raping pluto, pluto has more raw power.
and in reality pluto can just grab thors soul like he has done at times.
or weakend thor with his touch like he did to hercules.
its usualy in h2h combat that thor owns pluto.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i dont have dc scans, only marvel.
and no thor is not raping pluto, pluto has more raw power.
and in reality pluto can just grab thors soul like he has done at times.
or weakend thor with his touch like he did to hercules.
its usualy in h2h combat that thor owns pluto. Pluto isn't more powerful where are you getting that from. My proof is in a comic while you can tout a close victory whereas I have a stomp of Pluto with ares by Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pluto isn't more powerful where are you getting that from. . the multidimensional black hole, wiping the floor with the defenders, and beating the stranger.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My proof is in a comic while you can tout a close victory whereas I have a stomp of Pluto with ares by Thor My proof is pluto invadin asgard and beating everyone up there.

thor can beat pluto in h2h combat,
in a power fight pluto wins 10/10(you cant say thor beat him because they never had a power fight all were just h2h)

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
the multidimensional black hole, wiping the floor with the defenders, and beating the stranger.

My proof is pluto invadin asgard and beating everyone up there.

thor can beat pluto in h2h combat,
in a power fight pluto wins 10/10(you cant say thor beat him because they never had a power fight all were just h2h) How does this erase Thor's owning of Pluto?

Through prep. Can Pluto defeat Zeus straight up?

Originally posted by quanchi112
How does this erase Thor's owning of Pluto?
anyways ,death gods/hellords are low sky father level and above herald level. thanos is in that category to, but its two on 1 thanos loses

Team wins.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
anyways ,death gods/hellords are low sky father level and above herald level. thanos is in that category to, but its two on 1 thanos loses No, again I dispute this. Thor can beat either of these two but he cannot beat Thanos. Thor stomped Pluto and ares ye couldn't beat Thanos with the power gem with the same mindset.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, again I dispute this. Thor can beat either of these two but he cannot beat Thanos. Thor stomped Pluto and ares ye couldn't beat Thanos with the power gem with the same mindset. abc logic doesnt work....
those two are still above herald and has beat heralds quite easily.

thor beating them is plot device and pis, Please understand that.
when characters have consistant showings of them fighting people at higer levels and puts them above heralds, then gets put down by some one lower than him its PIS.

so if thor one day thor beats thanos would you say thor >>Thanos? would you?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
abc logic doesnt work....
those two are still above herald and has beat heralds quite easily.

thor beating them is plot device and pis, Please understand that. But they were both beaten by Thor. Thor cannot beat Thanos even with an amp. Thanos wins.

Originally posted by quanchi112
But they were both beaten by Thor. Thor cannot beat Thanos even with an amp. Thanos wins. i hope thor beats thanos in an issue via plot device or PIS one day so i can put it in your face and take that one fight and say Thor>thanos.......

both hela and pluto have faced people much higher than thor on there own..

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
i hope thor beats thanos in an issue via plot device or PIS one day so i can put it in your face and take that one fight and say Thor>thanos.......

both hela and pluto have faced people much higher than thor on there own.. Their either fights were close anyways. Thor didn't need a plot device to beat Pluto and Ares he simply needs to quit holding back.

Both are much lower than Odin and Thanos.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/190293-5658-pluto.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/1089273-defendersvol200222.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/190294-28501-pluto.jpghere he one shots dr strangehttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/848613-thor164_09.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/825580-hercules_129_024.jpg
those are from online, i have all the full scans, but i dont feel like creating a photobucket account to upload them 1by1....

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/190293-5658-pluto.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/1089273-defendersvol200222.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/3848/190294-28501-pluto.jpghere he one shots dr strangehttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/848613-thor164_09.jpghttp://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/11352/825580-hercules_129_024.jpg
those are from online, i have all the full scans, but i dont feel like creating a photobucket account to upload them 1by1....


Zeus was killed so he would fall under Hades jurisdiction, Thanos could very beat them in battle even though he is in dimension doesn't guarantee a win. Thanos with tech and prep will find a way to beat them.

You don't have to upload them 1 by 1 through Photobucket

Originally posted by the Darkone
Zeus was killed so he would fall under Hades jurisdiction, Thanos could very beat them in battle even though he is in dimension doesn't guarantee a win. Thanos with tech and prep will find a way to beat them. theres some typos there, i cant understand what you were trying to say..

Originally posted by quanchi112
Pluto isn't more powerful where are you getting that from. My proof is in a comic while you can tout a close victory whereas I have a stomp of Pluto with ares by Thor.

I agree with quanchi. Pluto is not more powerful than Zeus regardless where they are, Pluto is equal with his brother Poseidon who both are under Zeus in power and might.

If my memory service me right Zeus threaten Pluto for what happen to Ares after they battled WM Thor which Thor nearly killed him, Zeus said on the lines I would kill you where you stand.

Originally posted by the Darkone
I agree with quanchi. Pluto is not more powerful than Zeus regardless where they are, Pluto is equal with his brother Poseidon who both are under Zeus in power and might.

If my memory service me right Zeus threaten Pluto for what happen to Ares after they battled WM Thor which Thor nearly killed him, Zeus said on the lines I would kill you where you stand. so you consider him a herald level?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
theres some typos there, i cant understand what you were trying to say..

Keyboard acting up!


Zeus was killed in Ares mini, where Zeus fell under Hades dominion/ Jurisdiction. Zeus is the skyfather over the Olympians including Hades and Poiesidan.

Thanos could end up beating Hela and Pluto since she is weaker of the two, this Thanos this dude has tech/prep up the a$$. Thanos is a death God himself, and by Death herself I feel that he has the advantage.

What are those scans supposed to prove Colossus?

Originally posted by quanchi112
What are those scans supposed to prove Colossus? that he is above herald level.
some can argue, dr strange and silver surfer are above or equal to thor, and he 1shotted both of them on multiple occasions
and theres no way in hell thor can 1shot these guys.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
that he is above herald level.
some can argue, dr strange and silver surfer are above or equal to thor, and he 1shotted both of them on multiple occasions
and theres no way in hell thor can 1shot these guys. Your scans are incomplete. Heck, Doom henchmen have taken out Strange before and Airwalker briefly got the better of Thor but he's not on their levels. Thanos wins this all day.