Michael Korvac runs the gauntlet...

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TheLordofMurder
How does Korvac fair against each of the following?

1) Onslaught at peak power...
2) Odin and Thanos...
3) DP Tyrant, Odin, and Thanos...
4) Demogorge at peak power...
5) Kubik and The Shaper of Worlds...
6) Full Power Tyrant...
7) Master Order and Lord Chaos...

Bentley
He falls at five.

Black bolt z
How powerful was Korvac at his max?

Bentley
It was never specified to be honest, he was powerful enough to conceal himself from Eternity and dispose of someone as powerful as the Collector -who is around skyfather at least-, but he never fought any actual challenge in his career.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bentley
It was never specified to be honest, he was powerful enough to conceal himself from Eternity and dispose of someone as powerful as the Collector -who is around skyfather at least-, but he never fought any actual challenge in his career. What was his best feat?

Bentley
Originally posted by Black bolt z
What was his best feat?


One-shotting the Collector and hiding from Eternity. Slowing time, resurrecting Starkhawk so he comes back different, destroying the Avengers without even trying. He didn't have many feats of power, he was implied to be more powerful than the Elders of the Universe though.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bentley
One-shotting the Collector and hiding from Eternity. Slowing time, resurrecting Starkhawk so he comes back different, destroying the Avengers without even trying. He didn't have many feats of power, he was implied to be more powerful than the Elders of the Universe though. Technically based on that, IMO he stops at 2.

I mean one shotting the collector is awesome. But hes not passing Odin AND thanos.

Bentley
Even if you lowball the Collector he's still around Thanos level and he killed him with a single blast which travelled to a different dimension from Earth while hiding from abstracts.

He's closer to Cube being than Skyfather.

Black bolt z
Originally posted by Bentley
Even if you lowball the Collector he's still around Thanos level and he killed him with a single blast which travelled to a different dimension from Earth while hiding from abstracts.

He's closer to Cube being than Skyfather. If I lowball collector he is like mid herald.

At his best he is thanos level.

I still don't see him getting past 2 but IMO he is DEFINITLY not get past 3.

Bentley
Originally posted by Black bolt z
If I lowball collector he is like mid herald.

At his best he is thanos level.

I still don't see him getting past 2 but IMO he is DEFINITLY not get past 3.


The Collector oneshotted an entire race of beings which were Eternal level, one on one they wtf pwned Sersi and Herc.

Whether he passes three or not depends in how high you rate Tyrant. For me he's lower than Skyfather, in that case he wouldn't change the game that much.

zopzop
LoM it depends on what sort of proof we're allowed to use in Korvac's defense.

In 616 reality, he was hiding his presence not just from Eternity but from other "powerful" beings like Mephisto and Odin. He specifically mentioned them by name. Does this mean he feared their power? Or that he didn't want to deal with them just yet as not to attract the attention of even more powerful beings like Eternity?

In 616 his feats weren't all that. One-shotting an Elder is nice. And so is killing and rezzing Starhawk and pummeling the Avengers/GotG. But it's nothing a mid to high level skyfather couldn't do.

However, if we are allowed to use a referenced What If (the incident is even mentioned in his handbook entry), then Korvac clears it. He killed the IB, a few Elders, Stranger, the 4th Host of Celestials. He caused the LT to flee that reality.

It should be noted that he said he was more power than any being in that reality but not every being in that reality. It should also be noted that he needed the UN to destroy a universe, he didn't do it under his own power.

Bentley
We should note that Korvac explicitly stated he feared that the Skyfather would rally against him together, that Mephisto would side with Odin when he noticed how much of a threat he was.

I'm skeptical about any skyfather one-shotting the Collector, but that's a discussion for another day.

Colossus-Big C
iirc krovac kept a close eye on zeus and even concealed himself from him

Bentley
Korvac does mention he wants to evade combat with the skyfather because they'll ally among themselves -heavily implying that they can't take him one on one-, gather their forces and in the following battle the universe would be trashed -so maybe he may actually win the conflict-.

But then again, how much should we believe Korvac's estimations? He could only get them thanks to a high level of cosmic senses, they must be really exact. Backed with the fact he killed the Collector as if he was a bug, he's likely stronger than the skyfather themselves.

He's coming back soon in Avengers Academy, maybe we'll get a better idea of his power?

Colossus-Big C
Originally posted by Bentley
Korvac does mention he wants to evade combat with the skyfather because they'll ally among themselves -heavily implying that they can't take him one on one-, gather their forces and in the following battle the universe would be trashed -so maybe he may actually win the conflict-.
what issue did krovac mention this?

Bentley
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
what issue did krovac mention this?


Avengers v1 177.

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Black bolt z
If I lowball collector he is like mid herald.

At his best he is thanos level.

I still don't see him getting past 2 but IMO he is DEFINITLY not get past 3. you like just heard about korvac

Bentley
Originally posted by psycho gundam
you like just heard about korvac


Maybe he would have read about him if you'd left me use his empowered version in our BZ biscuits

psycho gundam
i would, but then i'd also be using what if? doom w/ ig

Bentley
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i would, but then i'd also be using what if? doom w/ ig


We'll make an abstract battlezone some other day ermm

Colossus-Big C
he is equal to the Combined power of Mephisto, Odin, and Zeus

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/51954/1705679-avengers_177_02.jpg

Knowsbleed33
FP Tyrant should be below Kubik and Shaper.

On that list, he stops at 5.

leonidas
hard to say. he was only overpowered because he decided to be. also, the level of cosmics in that era was vastly different. given when he was made, he was considered VERY uber. going by the what if, he clears it handily. basing it on 616 canon feats hard to see him going too far beyond a combination of skyfathers. i want to say he COULD have, but going on what we SAW it's really impossible to say much more. he was also brought back to battle ss in an avengers arc. he was clearly far more powerful iirc but somehow ss managed to hang in there.

AWESOME character, regardless.

guy222
love the enemy and he's back

zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas
hard to say. he was only overpowered because he decided to be. also, the level of cosmics in that era was vastly different. given when he was made, he was considered VERY uber. going by the what if, he clears it handily. basing it on 616 canon feats hard to see him going too far beyond a combination of skyfathers. i want to say he COULD have, but going on what we SAW it's really impossible to say much more. he was also brought back to battle ss in an avengers arc. he was clearly far more powerful iirc but somehow ss managed to hang in there.

AWESOME character, regardless.

What If are tricky, sometimes characters there are shown more or less powerful than their 616 counterparts. Plus there was a whole lot of PIS involved in that What If Korvak issue.

There was also a little known version of Korvak from the GotG reality that was a mix of Mainframe (Vision of the 31st Century), Korvac (Cyborg) and Cosmic Korvak (the Enemy).

All versions of Korvak were Death's bxtchs though smile

psycho gundam
Originally posted by Bentley
We'll make an abstract battlezone some other day ermm i want to have a "lame ass" character battlezone/tournament first

lame as in D-list characters like gypsy or avalanche

characters that "suck"

Black bolt z
Originally posted by psycho gundam
you like just heard about korvac No I haven't. I just don't know many of his feats eerm.Originally posted by psycho gundam
i would, but then i'd also be using what if? doom w/ ig That Doom sucked no expression.

Bentley
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i want to have a "lame ass" character battlezone/tournament first

lame as in D-list characters like gypsy or avalanche

characters that "suck"


I'd love that, dark and lame characters are about my favorites. The lack of scans would be annoying though.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
No I haven't. I just don't know many of his feats eerm. That Doom sucked no expression.


Every version of Doom is lame biscuits

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