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Doom
Banner (human and WWH, meaning he can prep as banner and then if he has to fight he is WWH mode)

V.S.

Batman
Pym

V.S.

Loki
Braniac

They get 48hrs prep. They have all their normal resources.

No BFR.

They start in new york city. They have no idea where the other parties are but if they have prepped for a way to detect them then thats fine.

Doom finds a way to take everyone's powers and then kill them all or turn them into servants.

But after that I'm taking Loki/Braniac

Pym kills Batman.

Prep or no Prep.
Just by touching someone Pym can grow both out of the bounds of reality. Overspace.
The Realm of Abstract entities. Pym has the Infinite Mansion and can attack from anywhere the size of an atom. Plus can fly.

Batman/Banner/Doom are screwed.

Scientist Supreme Solos.

Feats from Avengers Academy #7

http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae259/the_ninjak/avengersacademy7.jpg

no bfr and doom and banner get to prep wwh out? LOL they win so hard

Originally posted by Lord_Talron
no bfr and doom and banner get to prep wwh out? LOL they win so hard

Fine! he does the opposite and shrinks em into atoms. They're still in New York.

honestly, i think that still counts as bfr

Nah they're just really small.

This is bullshit Pym is scientist supreme GTFO.

Originally posted by the ninjak
http://i977.photobucket.com/albums/ae259/the_ninjak/avengersacademy7.jpg

That was.......only a facepalm describes my feelings about this writing

Originally posted by The Pict
That was.......only a facepalm describes my feelings about this writing

Don't you just hate it when writers **** with established powersets. Reed is the best scientist and every knows it but lets just make Pym the scientist supreme becuase we feel like it and provide some bullshit explanation.

Reed is the Explorer, Tony the Engineer, Hank the Scientist. Deal with it.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Reed is the Explorer, Tony the Engineer, Hank the Scientist. Deal with it.

Yea Reed isn't a scientist, that makes sense. Reed does more exploring than Pym so therefore hes less of a scientist.

Doom and Banner

Superman accidentally Miracle Machine there asses, especially Batman's.

Doom and Banner.

I don't see what the big deal about disliking Pym's push as Scientist Supreme is coming from. It certainly doesn't take anything away from Reed and it helped actually develop and further Hank as a character as Bendis basically undid everything progressive about Pym's character with his Skrull reveal during Secret Invasion. Slott and Gage actually give him the respect he deserves.

And Hank was called the "Mage", not the scientist. Reed's motive for science is for the sake of knowledge and learning and exploring new things, hence being the "Explorer". Tony's was described as making things better and developing technology, hence being the "Engineer". And Hank's motive was simply to make the impossible possible, hence why he was dubbed the "Mage." It was his qualities as a scientist and his approach to science which was why Eternity dubbed him such, not for being smarter or dumber than either Reed or Tony.

...I thought it was cool.

Originally posted by Deadline
Don't you just hate it when writers **** with established powersets. Reed is the best scientist and every knows it but lets just make Pym the scientist supreme becuase we feel like it and provide some bullshit explanation.

Yeah. His size-altering powers are all well and good. But then he shrinks himself and another person into another dimension, one populated with godlike beings no less, is just....WTF?!

Originally posted by The Pict
Yeah. His size-altering powers are all well and good. But then he shrinks himself and another person into another dimension, one populated with godlike beings no less, is just....WTF?!

He discovered Overspace first. Eternity was waiting there for him and told him he was the Mage. He created the Infinite Mansion in it in hopes to resurrect his wife.
I call it good writing.
At least his amp has merit.

And Pym and Bruce win this....Pym's tech with Bruces stealth = WIN

Originally posted by the ninjak
He discovered Overspace first. Eternity was waiting there for him and told him he was the Mage. He created the Infinite Mansion in it in hopes to resurrect his wife.
I call it good writing.
At least his amp has merit.

And Pym and Bruce win this....Pym's tech with Bruces stealth = WIN

And he can just shrink himself between dimensions? C'Mon

Originally posted by The Pict
And he can just shrink himself between dimensions? C'Mon

Nah in that issue he shrunk himself and Absorbing Man into subatomic particles.
It didn't work then he expanded outside the bounds of reality into Overspace.
Kinda like realigning your assemblage point into a different plane of existence. Like what the Toltec Indian Shamans claim to do.

The experience sent Absorbing Man mad. Pym has already conditioned his mind to such degrees of insanity/sanity and could handle it.
Later it was stated it was a dangerous feat not only for Pym's mind but his particles.

Very Cool.

You have to understand that Pym is the Mage now. He is on a quest to discover the link between Magic and Science.

Originally posted by the ninjak
Nah in that issue he shrunk himself and Absorbing Man into subatomic particles.
It didn't work then he expanded outside the bounds of reality into Overspace.
Kinda like realigning your assemblage point into a different plane of existence. Like what the Toltec Indian Shamans claim to do.

The experience sent Absorbing Man mad. Pym has already conditioned his mind to such degrees of insanity/sanity and could handle it.
Later it was stated it was a dangerous feat not only for Pym's mind but his particles.

Very Cool.

You have to understand that Pym is the Mage now. He is on a quest to discover the link between Magic and Science.

So he didn't shrink but expanded between dimensions? ermmnone

Loki/Brainiac.

Originally posted by The Pict
So he didn't shrink but expanded between dimensions? ermmnone



More like expanded his consciousness and took AM for the ride.
Otherwise he would have destroyed NY city or more.
He disappeared when he did it.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Loki/Brainiac.
Pym with prep captured Loki and tortured him. Thor had to save his ass.

Originally posted by the ninjak
More like expanded his consciousness and took AM for the ride.
Otherwise he would have destroyed NY city or more.
He disappeared when he did it.


Pym with prep captured Loki and tortured him. Thor had to save his ass.

One-sided prep? I'd put Brainiac above Pym slightly.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
One-sided prep? I'd put Brainiac above Pym slightly.
Pym's done it twice.
Brainiac is the only guy in this thread I'm unfamiliar with.
How would he deal with a someone with Pym's recent feats?

Originally posted by the ninjak
Pym's done it twice.
Brainiac is the only guy in this thread I'm unfamiliar with.
How would he deal with a someone with Pym's recent feats?

Vril Dox and his son had to teamup to defeat him. Vril admitted he couldn't do it alone. 12th level intellect and all. Plus he has the knowledge and tech from across the universe. He's pretty stacked.