Jean Gray vs Magneto

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Supra
So Magneto can control metal, and Jean Gray can control pretty much everything else. Magneto gets his special helmet.

Fight!

SevenShackles
Magneto blocks jeans psionic powers without her knowing
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5716/magelectromagneticjamspsionics.jpg

His forcefields have withstood the phoenix (weakened phoenix but still the phoenix)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47816/1142830-magtakesphoenixblast7nn_super.jpg

He can do stuff like this when needed
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41782/1071149-magneto_1.jpg

Gives Jean/Phoenix a 'planetary scale stroke'
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046802-phoenix_xorn1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046800-phoenix_xorn2.jpg

VS phoenix, siphons life energy
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071319-classicxmen01817rd4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071320-classicxmen01818ee7.jpg

In mental battle with Xavier and is able to effect the bolts in his chair from a great distance away (seems his helmet wasn't doing much but I could be wrong on that)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071325-maggoestelepathicallyagainstx1.jpg


God I hate Jean..

Supra
Haha he used there own sword on them!

SevenShackles
Originally posted by Supra
Haha he used there own sword on them!
laughing I never understood why he didn't do such stuff more often.. So easy to just move things with the slightest nudge of his powers. Sword, armor, screws, paperclips... Anything really just turned into a lethal weapon.
Oh, have a jacket with metal buttons? Guess what, now those buttons are pushing threw your spine.. smokin'

Supra
Originally posted by SevenShackles
laughing I never understood why he didn't do such stuff more often.. So easy to just move things with the slightest nudge of his powers. Sword, armor, screws, paperclips... Anything really just turned into a lethal weapon.
Oh, have a jacket with metal buttons? Guess what, now those buttons are pushing threw your spine.. smokin'

big grin

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Gives Jean/Phoenix a 'planetary scale stroke'
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046802-phoenix_xorn1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046800-phoenix_xorn2.jpg
That was Xorn, not Magneto.

-Pr-
Originally posted by SevenShackles
God I hate Jean..

Good man thumb up

SevenShackles
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That was Xorn, not Magneto.
surprise
It freaking says it in the pic names..tonight is not my night lol.

curryman
Originally posted by SevenShackles
surprise
It freaking says it in the pic names..tonight is not my night lol.

And it was a Xorn who was not only using kick but had been storing up that attack for some time...

TheGodKiller
Originally posted by SevenShackles
surprise
It freaking says it in the pic names..tonight is not my night lol.
It was revealed later on that Xorn was impersonating Magneto. His EMP attack in that scan caused the Phoenix Force to shatter into billions of pieces, an incident which is extremely well known on these boards.

Supra
Originally posted by -Pr-
Good man thumb up

If cyclops could hear you

-Pr-
Originally posted by Supra
If cyclops could hear you

Cyclops is better off with Emma anyway.

SevenShackles
Originally posted by -Pr-
Good man thumb up
euro Indubitably.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops is better off with Emma anyway.

Fully agree there. thumb up

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
It was revealed later on that Xorn was impersonating Magneto. His EMP attack in that scan caused the Phoenix Force to shatter into billions of pieces, an incident which is extremely well known on these boards.
Yeah, all that happened in one of those periods where I couldn't get my hands on comics and when I did i never got caught up with x-men. Sometimes I find scans and plot can be lost to me so thanks for explaining... I was so impressed with that Also, shame it wasn't mag.
Magneto still wins smokin'

Curious is this Jean or Phoenix? Should i naturally assume the latter? I usually avoid threads with her so if Jean=Phoenix I wouldn't know.

753
despite her eventual fusion and identification with the force, unless stated otherwise in the op, jean grey doesn't have the PF. so she's a high meta or low herald

zopzop
Originally posted by SevenShackles
His forcefields have withstood the phoenix (weakened phoenix but still the phoenix)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47816/1142830-magtakesphoenixblast7nn_super.jpg

VS phoenix, siphons life energy
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071319-classicxmen01817rd4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071320-classicxmen01818ee7.jpg

There's something MAJOR you're leaving out in relation to those scans, after the M'krann incident (which took place before her showdown with Magneto), Jean subconsciously imposed limits on her power so that she would never lose control :
http://imageshack.us/a/img401/9660/psychicciruitbreakers.th.jpg
These psychic circuit breakers were broken when Mastermind played with her emotions and caused her to become Dark Phoenix.

The "Phoenix" Magneto beat wasn't even low herald.

Having said that, Magneto wins. Jean sans PF isn't all that impressive.

Katya
I don't like Jean Gray but I love Jean Grey.

yaadaveyaa
mags wins handily 8-9/10

Flyattractor
If Jean is written with out stupid limits and even without the PF. She should be able to beat Maggy.

Cause the asinine stupidty of marvel to bend over for Maggy is IMO a ridicoulous asumption that a magnetic barrier should be able to stop a psychic ability.

yaadaveyaa
Originally posted by Flyattractor
If Jean is written with out stupid limits and even without the PF. She should be able to beat Maggy.

Cause the asinine stupidty of marvel to bend over for Maggy is IMO a ridicoulous asumption that a magnetic barrier should be able to stop a psychic ability.

nope his helmet does tho 100% it stops charles and hes the most powerful telepath his shield blocks physical damage and im sure most magical attack as well

Flyattractor
Originally posted by yaadaveyaa
nope his helmet does tho 100% it stops charles and hes the most powerful telepath his shield blocks physical damage and im sure most magical attack as well Yes. The helmet does but HE can't. If Maggy gets a crutch then Jean should get one to.

I don't see why Maggy should get an advangate in this kind of fight if he is the "Most Powerful Mutatn" and what crap.

Supra
In Xmen 3, jean was much more powerful the Mags though

Katya
So you're using the film versions?

JakeTheBank
Magneto welcomes Jean to die.

Bentley
Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops is better off with Emma anyway.

Yep, Cyclops + Jean isn't nearly the perfect love story that Superman + Lois is.

-Pr-
**** you ****er.

abhilegend
Originally posted by Bentley
Yep, Cyclops + Jean isn't nearly the perfect love story that Superman + Lois is.
thumb up

753
Originally posted by Flyattractor
Yes. The helmet does but HE can't. If Maggy gets a crutch then Jean should get one to.

I don't see why Maggy should get an advangate in this kind of fight if he is the "Most Powerful Mutatn" and what crap. magneto resited telepathy through sheer willpower. occasionally theyd explaing somethign about latent tp abilities or the fact his powers can affect tp signals.

yaadaveyaa
jean is more powerful then mags to an extent her telepathy is extremely strong while boosted by the phoenix but if she cant use those against him mags just simply destroys her if she can get inside his head then she wins she can tear his brain out

celestialbodies
Originally posted by SevenShackles
Magneto blocks jeans psionic powers without her knowing
http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/5716/magelectromagneticjamspsionics.jpg

His forcefields have withstood the phoenix (weakened phoenix but still the phoenix)
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/4/47816/1142830-magtakesphoenixblast7nn_super.jpg

He can do stuff like this when needed
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41782/1071149-magneto_1.jpg

Gives Jean/Phoenix a 'planetary scale stroke'
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046802-phoenix_xorn1.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/7604/1046800-phoenix_xorn2.jpg

VS phoenix, siphons life energy
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071319-classicxmen01817rd4.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071320-classicxmen01818ee7.jpg

In mental battle with Xavier and is able to effect the bolts in his chair from a great distance away (seems his helmet wasn't doing much but I could be wrong on that)
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/50114/1071325-maggoestelepathicallyagainstx1.jpg


God I hate Jean..



No doubt Mag would defeat Jean but let's be fair, In both of his "fights" with Phoenix they are WITHOUT context. When they first faced Jean herself limited her powers which explained why she hit a wall and could draw on no more of her powers.

Also Xorn and Phoenix NEVER fought, Jean sought to comfort him and he attacked giving her a lethal Emp while she was unaware, which is strange seeing as this is the same woman who in that very issue was in the HEART of the SUN and used it's power and Asteroid M to create an spacecraft. Now maybe it's me but I doubt Mags could create anything as strong as the very sun.

It should also be noted Jean commented in issue she, "didn't know how long they'd let her stay".




Originally posted by -Pr-
Cyclops is better off with Emma anyway.



Not this Emma?

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/02/nx131-1.jpg

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