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How many wins does this Cable get against each of these?

Thor
Genis Vell
Sentry
Black Bolt
Blue Marvel
Savage Hulk
Hyperion(now)

How's he fair ?

not sure, but i know how he fared against magneto. sneer

Originally posted by Insane Titan
How many wins does this Cable get against each of these?

Thor
Genis Vell
Sentry
Black Bolt
Blue Marvel
Savage Hulk
Hyperion(now)

How's he fair ?

somewhat more seriously, thor's tp resistance has been both good and ...less than good at times. in general, i'd say this version of cable could totally f him up via mindrape though. genis and sentry are both naturally weak personality-wise, both prone to affective disorders which would lead me to think cable could likewise f them up via mindrape. bolt would be more interesting. he may resist the tp, but i don't think he has enough sheer power to take cable down. be interesting though to see how cable dealt with the scream. wonder if he could use tk to simply seal bolt's voice closed. he probably could. bm i don't know enough about. hulk would lose and unless i'm missing some big tp resistance feat from hyperion, he'd go down like thor imo. cable wasn't just another uber tp guy. his power was IMMENSE. it would take someone with a lot of feats (and some protection, say a special helmet.....) to be able to make a stand against his tp. that version of cable was damn powerful.

He could clear this list. This Cable imo was above Herald level. He did everything he did while telekinetically holding the planet hostage (taking away nuclear weapons, etc...).

Stops at Thor. Hard.
Originally posted by carver9
He could clear this list. This Cable imo was above Herald level.
His fight with the Silver Surfer says differently.

Also, is this a gauntlet nihilist? If so, then your list seems a little f*cked up.

God cable was a dope character IMO he clears. Moreover, I feel the only reason why it ended so quickly with Surfer was the issue of him burning out. If burning out wasn't a problem I think he would of done greatly.

Cable does have the potential to clear, thanks primarily to his uber TP.

From a sheer power standpoint, however, I would not put Jesus Cable above the herald tier. Granted his fight with Surfer wasn't the best way to gauge the totality of his battle-power, considering his attention/energy was divided between multiple other tasks at the time--but I'm confident that Surfer would have still won regardless. By Cable's own accord he could only channel his Jesus powa for so long before he simply burned out. Heck, he actually planned on overloading/dying when he first began accessing said powa(that's how/why his whole 'Messiah complex' originated.) /shrug

Originally posted by Epicurus
Stops at Thor. Hard.

His fight with the Silver Surfer says differently.

Also, is this a gauntlet nihilist? If so, then your list seems a little f*cked up. no it's not a gauntlet.

Just say how many wins he gets against each

Originally posted by Epicurus
Stops at Thor. Hard.

His fight with the Silver Surfer says differently.

Also, is this a gauntlet nihilist? If so, then your list seems a little f*cked up.

He was taxed when he fought Surfer. Wasnt close to being 100%.

Originally posted by Galan007
Cable does have the potential to clear, thanks primarily to his uber TP.

From a sheer power standpoint, however, I would not put Jesus Cable above the herald tier. Granted his fight with Surfer wasn't the best way to gauge the totality of his battle-power, considering his attention/energy was divided between multiple other tasks at the time--but I'm confident that Surfer would have still won regardless. By Cable's own accord he could only channel his Jesus powa for so long before he simply burned out. Heck, he actually planned on overloading/dying when he first began accessing said powa(that's how/why his whole 'Messiah complex' originated.) /shrug

You really can't say how his fight with Surfer would have went if he was at a 100%. He broke Surfer board with ease while weakened. Isn't Surfer skin made out of the same material as his board?

No it's not at all

Originally posted by carver9
He was taxed when he fought Surfer. Wasnt close to being 100%.
His powers began burning out the moment he acquired them. As the Surfer himself noted, Cable's body was never designed to handle such immense energies aka Cable is someone who would spontaneously combust the moment he reaches high herald levels of power and versatility.

Surfer decimated him. Thor would too, given his tp resistance.

@Titan: K. This is my take on each encounter:

Thor- Cable loses 8/10 times.
Genis Vell- Cable loses 9/10 times.
Sentry- Depends on the version. The one whom Shaman Nate neutralized would probably lose, otherwise the Sentry gets a solid 7/10 victory over Cable.
Black Bolt- Cable loses 8/10 times.
Blue Marvel- Cable loses 8-9/10 times.
Savage Hulk- Cable wins. This Hulk's sheer lack of versatility and questionable tp resistance gives Cable a definitive edge.
Hyperion(now)- In terms of raw power Cable is outclassed, but I don't know about Hype's tp resistance. So, giving it to Cable for now.

Originally posted by Epicurus
@Titan: K. This is my take on each encounter:

Thor- Cable loses 8/10 times.
Genis Vell- Cable loses 9/10 times.
Sentry- Depends on the version. The one whom Shaman Nate neutralized would probably lose, otherwise the Sentry gets a solid 7/10 victory over Cable.
Black Bolt- Cable loses 8/10 times.
Blue Marvel- Cable loses 8-9/10 times.
Savage Hulk- Cable wins. This Hulk's sheer lack of versatility and questionable tp resistance gives Cable a definitive edge.
Hyperion(now)- In terms of raw power Cable is outclassed, but I don't know about Hype's tp resistance. So, giving it to Cable for now. cheers for that, never really read much about that Cable .

How would he fair against the likes of BRB, Quasar, Gladiator and Nova respectively ?

Originally posted by Galan007
Cable does have the potential to clear, thanks primarily to his uber TP.

From a sheer power standpoint, however, I would not put Jesus Cable above the herald tier. Granted his fight with Surfer wasn't the best way to gauge the totality of his battle-power, considering his attention/energy was divided between multiple other tasks at the time--but I'm confident that Surfer would have still won regardless. By Cable's own accord he could only channel his Jesus powa for so long before he simply burned out. Heck, he actually planned on overloading/dying when he first began accessing said powa(that's how/why his whole 'Messiah complex' originated.) /shrug

i agree. wouldn't put him above herald either, the ss fight showed that. it would have been interesting to see how the fight would have gone had cable actually wanted to kill ss, and had he focused all his energies on the fight. unlike these others, ss DOES have some uber tp resist feats, so he has a big advantage over the others. the nature of his power also makes for a bad match up for cable. ss would likley have beaten him, regardless. that doesn't mean these others would, imo.

nova and quasar also have enormous tp resistance. it would be cables tk vs both. i think q has the better feats compared to nova. i'd say cable would split with quasar and take maybe 6/10 against nova. cable's tk was crazy--molecular levels of control. his potential for power was truly impressive. too bad they didn't explore it further.

brb doesn't have any tp resist feats that i can think of off hand. without them, it's hard to give someone a win over this cable.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure, but i know how he fared against Magneto. sneer

God Cable fought against Magneto? How did it play out?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
cheers for that, never really read much about that Cable .

How would he fair against the likes of BRB, Quasar, Gladiator and Nova respectively ?
That version of Cable was a solid high herald, but his body's inability to sustain that much power for more than a few days at best is his biggest downfall.

He'd win against most of them more likely than not, with the exception of BRB whom I believe Cable is perfectly on par with. Gladiator is an especially easy win, given his particular weakness.

Originally posted by leonidas
cable's tk was crazy--molecular levels of control.
Both the Silver Surfer and Thanos have that in their powersets. And both have had their hands full dealing with Thor alone. Not to mention that he's had his fair share of feats resisting powerful tk(not on the level Cable showed, but still enough to set a precedent for doubt on whether Cable could gain an actual victory through such a means).

In fact, given Cable's pathetic performance against the Silver Surfer, I still lol heavily at the in-canon belief in the non-existent superiority of the Summers/Grey line as compared to people like Legion and Franklin Richards.

Both of whom can merc a thousand high heralds at full power.

Originally posted by leonidas
brb doesn't have any tp resist feats that i can think of off hand. without them, it's hard to give someone a win over this cable. He's got a few resistance feats against low-level TP, but certainly nothing to suggest that Cable wouldn't own him.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure, but i know how he fared against magneto. sneer

EDIT:

oh, this too

Originally posted by leonidas
(and some protection, say a special helmet.....)

summer's rollin in and i'm still lookin for a rematch m'man.....

Originally posted by Epicurus
Both the Silver Surfer and Thanos have that in their powersets. And both have had their hands full dealing with Thor alone. Not to mention that he's had his fair share of feats resisting powerful tk(not on the level Cable showed, but still enough to set a precedent for doubt on whether Cable could gain an actual victory through such a means).

yeah, i don't think he'd be able to take thor with tk alone, but he could def do some damage and might be able to. it's thor's ability to deal with tp that is the issue with me. wasn't it just shown that xavier put him to sleep pretty easily? he's also got other showings that i know you're aware of, that counter some of his better showings. i'm not really going to argue the point much because it depends purely on how you feel thor would fare against a concentrated tp attack. you think he could handle it (and there is some support to suggest it's possible) i don't (likewise there is support to suggest it.) given the sheer level of tp cable could bring against him, imo thor would fall far more often than not.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure, but i know how he fared against magneto. sneer

So how did their fight played out... I didn't even know they fought?

Anyway, God Cable in anyway is much more powerful than Magneto.

If God-like Cable would be in his full form against Silver Surfer... Norrin would have his hands full.

Originally posted by leonidas
yeah, i don't think he'd be able to take thor with tk alone, but he could def do some damage and might be able to. it's thor's ability to deal with tp that is the issue with me. wasn't it just shown that xavier put him to sleep pretty easily? he's also got other showings that i know you're aware of, that counter some of his better showings. i'm not really going to argue the point much because it depends purely on how you feel thor would fare against a concentrated tp attack. you think he could handle it (and there is some support to suggest it's possible) i don't (likewise there is support to suggest it.) given the sheer level of tp cable could bring against him, imo thor would fall far more often than not.
Xavier's tp was shown to be superior to a Phoenix-amped Emma's though. Along with Rachel's power. In the same series when he owned Thor. And he was also forcing a full phoenix powered Scott to cut loose.

Funny thing is, SHIELD made anti-tp blocks were shown to be superior to Xavier's power.

Cable would **** Thor's shit up with that TP. Against surfer Cable was running on fumes and couldn't even hold up his island at that time which was totally effortless. Deadpool confirmed it later.

So you're saying that losing to the Silver Surfer was effortless for him?

Iirc, his interview Irene Merryweather had him explicitly alluding to the fact that the Silver Surfer was an unexpected wild card who would cause him to generate more power and at a much faster rate than he had planned to do so:

http://i1160.photobucket.com/albums/q487/TheGodKiller666/interviewwithirenemerryweather_zps9587b652.jpg

Heck, in this scan it's even alluded that the Surfer is the one who can push Cable's power level to its limits.

And his remaining power was still sufficient to assist Rachel in lowering the island telekinetically after Deadpool drained his remaining energies.

I meant holding up the island at peak power was effortless for him. Thor has too many instances of getting mindraped by xavier level telepaths. Cable was above that level IMO.

^Yeah, that depends on how we see his good feats vs tp as opposed to the bad ones.

Agree to disagree here. Leo made the same point as well, and I disagreed with him.