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Who wins?

Not you, ever.

marvel imo. although supes has crazier feats

PC Superman is superior in every single category, except maybe durability.


Captain Marvel was totally invulnerable at his best.


Endless stalemate.

Not endless, as PC Superman's magic weakness would doom him in this fight.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
PC Superman is superior in every single category, except maybe durability.


Captain Marvel was totally invulnerable at his best.


Endless stalemate.

How PC Superman is superior in every single category?
Did the PC Captain Marvel had crazy feats too?

^^^ ?
Are you ASKing for crazy feats, or saying Captain Msrvel HAS crazy feats?
Either way, some crazy feats in this thread:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=623570&pagenumber=1

Marvel wins.

Originally posted by riv6672
Not endless, as PC Superman's magic weakness would doom him in this fight. This.

Grundy KO'd Silver Age Supes with a few blows due to his magical nature:
http://i.imgur.com/GVN3zr7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PWUGc76.jpg

Granted, he was packing quite a bit of magical power there... But then again, so is Marvel.

A depowered bronze age superman went toe to toe with Cap for a whole issue and was stated to be exact equal in strength.

At full power he beats the shit out of Cap.

I think when they would fight they are usually portrayed as even. So I'd ask what Marvels best feats are..outside of fighting Superman. Did he do anything crazy like planet towing or sneezing away a star system?

On the other hand PC Superman is one of the most powerful versions of the character, but that is balanced out by having a far greater weakness to magic then other versions.

But this is why I'm asking for feats for Cap..because he still needs to actually be able to land these magical attacks and if he lacks the speed to tag his opponent that is problematic.

Look here for Cap fts.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t623570.html

Captain Marvel

Originally posted by CosmicComet
PC Superman is superior in every single category, except maybe durability.


Captain Marvel was totally invulnerable at his best.


Endless stalemate. This. 👍

Originally posted by Galan007
This.

Grundy KO'd Silver Age Supes with a few blows due to his magical nature:
http://i.imgur.com/GVN3zr7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PWUGc76.jpg

Granted, he was packing quite a bit of magical power there... But then again, so is Marvel.
This to my this.

Originally posted by Galan007
This.

Grundy KO'd Silver Age Supes with a few blows due to his magical nature:
http://i.imgur.com/GVN3zr7.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PWUGc76.jpg

Granted, he was packing quite a bit of magical power there... But then again, so is Marvel.

If it was that simple, Wonder Woman's history would look a lot stronger against him.

Cap wasn't magical like that. Not back then, anyways.

His lightning was, though, and would have beaten him in their first real fight if the wizard didn't order him to take a dive.

Originally posted by cdtm
If it was that simple, Wonder Woman's history would look a lot stronger against him.

Cap wasn't magical like that. Not back then, anyways.

His lightning was, though, and would have beaten him in their first real fight if the wizard didn't order him to take a dive.
His lightning had no problem for Superman in JLA 136.

It wouldn't be here.

By feats they are is close
I dont think Superman is stronger

He was carrying planets through space, so yea he is.

Captain Marvel carried a sun that dwarfed planets.

Originally posted by carver9
Captain Marvel carried a sun that dwarfed planets.

You know our sun dwarves planets too, right? It's not as small as it appears in the sky.

True...

This dead star dwarfed suns.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137967/4403816-screenshot_2015-02-17-14-43-44.png

We're halfway to seven dwarfs now...

Originally posted by carver9
True...

This dead star dwarfed suns.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111137967/4403816-screenshot_2015-02-17-14-43-44.png
Superman sneezed away a solar system.

PC Captain family move a galaxy...
billion of billion of solar system....

That means they're Superboy level

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111128252/3990993-1785271270-14493.jpg

I'd also like to see the scan of the Marvel family

Superboy says he's moving worlds from a galaxy in that scan.
That oddly named fellow above you says PC Marvels move the galaxies themselves...

operator616 tell me that
You can ask to operator616

Originally posted by riv6672
Superboy says he's moving worlds from a galaxy in that scan.
That oddly named fellow above you says PC Marvels move the galaxies themselves...
But PC Captain Marvel moved a dead star that sooooo much bigger than normanl sunS or planetS,right?
normanl sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>planetS

Originally posted by a88378438
operator616 tell me that
You can ask to operator616 What are you, the intermediary?

So you've never seen the actual scan?

Originally posted by a88378438
But PC Captain Marvel moved a dead star that sooooo much bigger than normanl sunS or planetS,right?
normanl sun>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>planetS Superman has moved a giant star, too...

And he only needed his superbreath

http://i.imgur.com/7MrwfXc.gif

No,I see them,but it's need took them a long time to move entire galaxy(billlion of StarS)

Originally posted by a88378438
No,I see them,but it's need took them a long time to move entire galaxy(billlion of StarS) Well, that's like me saying that Superboy Prime moved the entire Universe. He did, but pieces at a time and it took him a while.

Pre-Crisis Superboy on the other hand just chained an entire galaxy's worth of planets and moved them across the entire Universe. That's.... orders of magnitude more impressive.

The Marvels DID NOT move a galaxy. Let's cut the crap on that first off.

Billy, Mary, and Freddie were trying to stop the collision of two galaxies, and they tried to do it by pushing each individual star off course, and after maybe a dozen or so stars they realized it was futile and they wouldn't have the time to do it that way.


As far as the giant star moving, here's how they line up by my estimation:


-Fawcett Captain Marvel moved a giant dead star. In Fawcett comics, stars were giantic space rocks that were on fire, so Fawcett comic stars are much heavier than actual ones. Cap pushed the star massively faster than light, such that an astronomer could tell with a telescope that it moved. If our own Sun was moving at merely lightspeed, it would look like its going extremely slow: it would take it almost 5 seconds to cross one diameter length.

-Supes moved a giant star, which wasn't dead--so we can't tell if it was a Giant flaming rock or a giant flaming ball of hydrogen like a normal one. We'd have to assume the latter without any more info. Regardless, he didn't seem to move it as far as Cap moved his, but he did only use his god-damn breath, and it would still have to be moving FTL as well to have any noticeable movement at all.

If the Earth were the same size as the Sun, it would only outweigh the Sun by about 4 times, so Fawcett stars being giant rocks on fire, probably wouldn't add enough to the feat to beat out the fact that Superman used only his damn breath to move a giant star.

Regardless, Superboy did move an entire galaxy worth of planets, so that trumps any celestial body moving the Marvels did.


PC Supes is way faster too. Cap of course has the awesome speed feat of rebuilding an entire planet, fragment by fragment with his bare hands in a panel (which shits on wally's nuke evacuation feat). But PC Supes had a similar feat shared with Vartox, except for them the planet's remains were spread all over the cosmos, and not just contained in the same solar system.

Interestingly, after they snapped out of the spell forcing them to have their first big fight, it was Superman who used his super speed to do a "affect Earth by flying really fast" feat, ala akin to when he turned back time in the movie... and it was done on Cap's Earth, where he should have been at full power.

That doesn't prove Superman is faster, but it was a golden opportunity to give Cap a good speed feat, given it was his own world and all. Instead, the supposedly weaker Supes (Because per the story, Cap = Supes OFF of his home universe, away from Rock of Eternity's power) does it.

What an odd conversation. Theologians in ancient Greece didnt tackle topics this mind bending.

Originally posted by riv6672
What an odd conversation. Theologians in ancient Greece didnt tackle topics this mind bending.

topics about moving galaxies>>>>