The Lowest you can go, Vs (some of) the JLA!
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DarkSaint85
You have to choose one powerset from DC, to be yours. You are only allowed the limits shown by said character, but you're allowed to be more creative with the powers.
So for example, if you choose, say, Aquaman, you get super strength, durability, etc with the power LEVEL limited to everything that Aquaman has shown in comics. BUT you can be more creative, so you can...thunderclap, for example, even though Arthur does not do this. You could choose truly OOC tactics, like...Flash's powerset, and try biting everyone's faces off, but remember that this will tip the JLA off that you are a clear threat, and they will respond accordingly.
You are facing four members of the JLA, I.e. the Big 3 (Superman/WW/Batman) PLUS Martian Manhunter.
For this, Batman has no special specific prep, but he knows you're a JLA-level threat so he has arrived appropriately (so no special anti-telepathy circuitry built into his cowl etc, but he HAS shown up in his Batplane).
Who is the LOWEST tiered character you choose, and can be creative with?
*NO BFR*
MrMind
shouldn't i auto win with the flash? i mean if im going cis off, even without prep, they wouldn't stand a chance the first time they meet me. they be caught off guard.
or
martian manhunter, the amount of powers wasted on that green martian is astounishing. he could've been a silver surfer but choose to be a super skrull+ instead. I'd be so creative with his powers. full frontal TP blitz then invisible/intangible + phasing their vital organ.
do I get prep
DarkSaint85
Yes, you can have prep - but the JLA will come into the fight knowing you have prep (but it will be unspecified). However, they cannot prep specifically for you.
So when the match starts, WW/Superman/MMH might go 'this Special Cybernetic Action Team member is too dangerous/powerful, he has XYZ powerset - better neutralise him ASAP'.
If you don't have prep, then they *might* not go all-out.
And yeah, we *could* go for the simplest tactic, but I just like reading creative ones. Leo went with Pym in the previous thread, for example, against the Defenders.
MrMind
oh i dont have to choose a jla member? ill come up with something fun for sure
what roster is the jla, is it only big 3 plus the green man or is it more members involved
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by MrMind
oh i dont have to choose a jla member? ill come up with something fun for sure
what roster is the jla, is it only big 3 plus the green man or is it more members involved
Just those four.
You can choose the powerset of anyone in DC, you can be as creative/OOC as you want, BUT you are limited to their power levels. So no choosing Jay Garrick's powerset and using Wally's showings etc.
Go crazy.
carver9
Can i choose two low tier metas? Stack my powers
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Can o choose two low tier metas? Stack my powers
No....just one character's powerset. Low Meta is a good tier to begin with though, I want to see people being sneaky and creative!
Galan007
Firestorm uses zeta beam to transport them all across the universe for a BFR win.

DarkSaint85
Forgot to say, BFR is off.
Can a mod please edit?
Galan007
*sighs*
I'll contact Pr.

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*
I'll contact Pr.
It's for round 2, anyway. Round 1, BFR is on, and Galan's sneaky use of Z beam rads - assuming Superman gets caught/MMH doesn't use his TP, is admittedly very cool.
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by Galan007
*sighs*
I'll contact Pr.
40 years later...
carver9
Ok, I'll say Magician. Low tier Xmen villain
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Ok, I'll say Magician. Low tier Xmen villain
...choose a character from DC, my guy.
MrMind
carver has dyslexia, aint nothing we can do about that
it's hard enough to exist for him
StiltmanFTW
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
...choose a character from DC, my guy.
Not to mention that it was Ultimate Universe, lol.
Originally posted by MrMind
carver has dyslexia, aint nothing we can do about that
it's hard enough to exist for him
Most Americans are dyslexic. Especially those from import.
But Carv is... something else...

carver9
Dr. Polaris or Doctor Light - either of these low Heralds
MrMind
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not to mention that it was Ultimate Universe, lol.
Most Americans are dyslexic. Especially those from import.
But Carv is... something else...
even by american standard, carver is stupid as fuk
the fact that he is middle class just show you how easy america is for some people
plus he's probably live a small straight edge life so he never really experienced anything
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
Dr. Polaris or Doctor Light - either of these low Heralds
How'd you take these 4 out?
carver9
Think about it. If I went through life handling things far better than most Americans, having a credit score higher than most Americans and a bank account thicker than most people, probably greater than the both of you that probably live depressed lives... wouldn't that make me smarter than you? I check every single box financially and had to work for that shit. That honestly speaks volumes about our mindset and goals, doesn't it? At your age Mindset, I was touching a 6 figure salary.
MrMind
Originally posted by carver9
Think about it. If I went through life handling things far better than most Americans, having a credit score higher than most Americans and a bank account thicker than most people, probably greater than the both of you that probably live depressed lives... wouldn't that make me smarter than you? I check every single box financially and had to work for that shit. That honestly speaks volumes about our mindset and goals, doesn't it? At your age Mindset, I was touching a 6 figure salary.
new copypasta is born
carver9
Lol... no copy here, just speaking facts. My point is, you can bash if you want but our mindset and goals are not comparable, at all, or how we are living. You and Stilt are KMC clowns.
MrMind
what is your mindset and goal?
StiltmanFTW
No amount of ripping tinfoil is going to help Derrick recover this time

DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How'd you take these 4 out?
MrMind
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No amount of ripping tinfoil is going to help Derrick recover this time
carver got an american express black card, perfect equifax score
from being a kfc manager since 9
respect the hustle breh
StiltmanFTW
Don't forget about him being a deadbeat dad and struggling with phones while taking metrosexual selfies!
Galan007
Originally posted by carver9
Dr. Polaris or Doctor Light - either of these low Heralds How so?
carver9
Doctor Poloris has fts of reacting to the Flash and speedsters in general. Individuals that's far faster than the people here. He's also controlled the electromagnetic spectrum to the point of weakening Superman and preventing him from absorbing energy (and blinding him).
All metals, even mythical, he's controlled to the point of having Wonder Woman punching herself to a knock out. Batman has no control over getting his blood manipulated or his lungs exploding. Martian Manhunter has already been ruined by Doctor Poloris, to the point of bleeding out of his face. He can do all of this simultaneously as shown here..
https://imgur.com/a/zx0obX8
I'm sure people will probably say he was amped here but he became FAR more powerful after this to the point of manipulating things on a planetary level.
StiltmanFTW
"Poloris" vin
https://i.ibb.co/R3kVj2q/NMAH-NMAH2003-02075.jpg
DarkSaint85
We think Low Herald is do-able?
MrMind
i'd do it with raven
though god knows why she's listed low herald on the tier list
DarkSaint85
How would you do it, against these four?
leonidas
this one is much harder than the marvel one because if we assume pis is off and superman knows the threat we can reasonably assume he'll be in super speed mode as soon as the match begins. if he's in full blitz mode the only way to counter it would be with prep or an auto shield to buy some time.
if they can have equal prep time i'd say zatanna could easily do this. she simply needs time to end it and she could do that with 5 seconds of prep to raise a shield. then she'd enter and stop time then change them all into....flowers? chimps? pieces of lint?? lol
slightly more out of the box--deadman. possesses superman who kills everyone than uses wonder woman's sword to kill himself or has super swallow the k-nite bats always has on him.
not sure if jonn would be able to fight dm off though but if supes attacks jonn fast enough it shouldn't matter.
DarkSaint85
Just to point out that as with the other thread, if you choose to utilise prep, then the Big Four enter the fight knowing you have prep.
So Batman, for example, would know Zatannidas has prep. He might start the match with something sneaky to try and counter your prep (he doesn't know what you have done, only that you have unspecified prep).
leonidas
yeah that's why I said if we get equalized prep. she needs enough "prep time" to say esiar a ythgim dleihs. i'm comfortable giving bats 2 seconds of prep.

DarkSaint85
Are you accounting for Batman's magic?
leonidas
i'll take z's magic over his. every time.
MrMind
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How would you do it, against these four?
unleash her potential, going full out really, raven going all out is universal level rivaling the likes trigon
Smurph
Animal Man. At his power level during 52.
Kryptonian/Martian hive mind army.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
i'll take z's magic over his. every time.
Interesting you said that....
https://imgur.com/a/HVRvn
https://i.postimg.cc/Yvgj8sF8/FSiWQTm.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/1fbfGQ8f/juQugmp.jpg
But maybe that's your ploy. He depowers you, and you beat the shit out of Bats. I see your game, Leo.
leonidas
really? he doesn't even know if he said them right, though i'm sure she did. he's also used it in the past to help superman against deadman ironically but it doesn't come naturally to him, is always a last resort and is something he hates. he also has no idea he's facing a magic user here and by the time he does i've stopped time and it's over anyway. one simple showing doesn't change anything.
and i don't think it would save him in the deadman scenario either. superman would take out bats too fast for him to even utter the phrase he'd need.
MrMind
the question is can zatanna just go "eid" and kill everyone in a cis off scenerio
leonidas
I'd say yes she could.
DarkSaint85
Of course she can.
I was just pointing out that interestingly enough, we (despite knowing comics inside and out) still underestimated Batman, and Zatannidas gave Batman 2 seconds of prep, confident that it wouldn't amount to much. But Bats could still pull something sneaky off, and remember Leo under the stips, because you chose preptime, Batman (and the rest of the JL) come onto the field KNOWING your abilities and that you had (unspecified) prep.
It was just funny because you specifically chose Z, and rate her magic highly (rightly so).
As for Deadman:
https://imgur.com/a/IrXJC
All the same, Z could well do it. As could Deadman.
leonidas
oh see I thought they just knew there was a threat. I didn't know prep time told them exactly who they would be facing...superman would be the threat in that case with his speed but the shield should still buy her time to stop time unless we say he moves ftl then hits the shield with planet shattering power. hard to say if her shield would withstand that for sure I guess or if she could concentrate to cast. she also doesn't need to speak of course so that might help her. once she gets the time stop off that effectively ends the fight.
Deadman might be easier. no prep. he's invisible unless he doesn't want to be. he could possess superman and not say anything so no one would even know what happened until they were all dead.
DarkSaint85
Deadman could even do it simultaneously.....
leonidas
yeah i've seen him do multiple possession, but didn't know how rare it was. :/
carver9
What if someone's power was only bfring their opponents... we can't use them?
leonidas
well he said no bfr...
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by leonidas
oh see I thought they just knew there was a threat. I didn't know prep time told them exactly who they would be facing...superman would be the threat in that case with his speed but the shield should still buy her time to stop time unless we say he moves ftl then hits the shield with planet shattering power. hard to say if her shield would withstand that for sure I guess or if she could concentrate to cast. she also doesn't need to speak of course so that might help her. once she gets the time stop off that effectively ends the fight.
Deadman might be easier. no prep. he's invisible unless he doesn't want to be. he could possess superman and not say anything so no one would even know what happened until they were all dead.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Prep is allowed, but the team will know this (as well as who you've chosen). So will fight accordingly (i.e. the match starts, and the Defenders *know* that Doom has prepped something for them, but they don't know what).
Would Surfer then attempt a blitz, to stop you from enacting those plans? Would Strange hang back, preferring to see what you bring, but raise his strongest shields in preparation? Would Hulk (which I am using Savage here) decide nah, Hulk's the strongest there is, and leap straight at you?
Your prep needs to then account for a blitzing Surfer (for example) whilst Strange *might* be attacking you mystically/astrally whilst Hulk is fisting you greenily etc.
Or it might not. This thread is to test your knowledge of characters and how they fight, but also your creativity.
If you decide to enter the thread with zero prep, then the Defenders also don't fight as if you have prep. So if Zop wants to just punch everyone in the face, can they react in time?
ShadowFyre
Originally posted by carver9
Think about it. If I went through life handling things far better than most Americans, having a credit score higher than most Americans and a bank account thicker than most people, probably greater than the both of you that probably live depressed lives... wouldn't that make me smarter than you? I check every single box financially and had to work for that shit. That honestly speaks volumes about our mindset and goals, doesn't it? At your age Mindset, I was touching a 6 figure salary.
Why are you defending yourself against someone who eats poop?
carver9
Deadman, easily. Jump in Supermans body, snap Batman neck, fight Wonder Woman and try to get her sword from her. Stab myself as Superman in the heart and take over Wonder Woman body (and finish Superman off).
DarkSaint85
Guessing people forgot Martian Manhunter eh? And that WWs lasso works on spirits?
leonidas
only if she can it and somehow get it on hm before he jumps into superman. don't see that happening.
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