Invisible Woman vs. Agatha Harkness
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Wonder Man

Who can tell the tale ftw?
zopzop
Invisible Woman, we already know her shields are effective against magic.
leonidas
what makes you say that?
zopzop
Originally posted by leonidas
what makes you say that?
She literally trapped a spell cast by Doom in a force field and released it when the time was right. DS has a scan on the IW vs thread.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
X-men Vol 3 #19.
Later on, Sue contains Doom's magic in a bubble (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/8233499-rco019.jpg), but not before blocking the big bad (who is able to easily capture Magneto).
No shade on Magneto, though. That baddie is powered by an entire planet
Also, Mechamage:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/8935426-rco033_1583645540.jpg
StiltmanFTW
Just make a World War Sue thread and solo the entire KMC, including Qwerty and Phil

Smurph
On the other hand: https://imgur.com/aruNuhh
Sue is a lot stronger since then, of course
DeadpoolXXX
she's alot stronger now. all the f4 are.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Just make a World War Sue thread and solo the entire KMC, including Qwerty and Phil
KMC is not ready.
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
she's alot stronger now. all the f4 are.
At least Marvel actually had a reason for them, too.
As for teleporting, she's blocked Blink before:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/8859822-rco006_1469139711.jpg
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/8859825-rco007_1469139711.jpg
Originally posted by Smurph
On the other hand: https://imgur.com/aruNuhh
Sue is a lot stronger since then, of course
This is a later battle:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/7955331-7392113-img_20200526_143655.jpg
Sue was quite badly weakened here too, IIRC.
And again:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/7955332-7392114-img_20200526_143638.jpg
And here she is against Blackheart, no magical slouch himself:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/7955335-7406164-img_20200603_231308.jpg
Anyway, this is how it ended between Agatha and Sue:
https://i.postimg.cc/YSNLGTKh/RCO017-1468987001.jpg
Smurph

Like I said, Sue has gotten a lot stronger.
None of that changes that AH apparently has a spell that can disperse Sue's forcefield. I'm not saying that means Sue loses, but it's directly relevant to Zopzop's point.
Glorificus
Seems like it comes down to a quick-draw; either Agatha Harkness gets her spell off to disperse Sue's forcefields, or Sue pops Agatha's head with an expanding bubble.
I'm leaning towards Sue's as being faster, as she just needs to think "expand forcefield in head".
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by Smurph

Like I said, Sue has gotten a lot stronger.
None of that changes that AH apparently has a spell that can disperse Sue's forcefield. I'm not saying that means Sue loses, but it's directly relevant to Zopzop's point.
Had a spell that can can disperse the forcefields. doesn't seem to be the case anymore (see second link):
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11139/111391579/7955332-7392114-img_20200526_143638.jpg
Whether we want to attribute it to Agatha being unable to (due to Sue getting stronger) or unwilling to (CIS/any other reason) is another matter, I guess.
Maybe in this third encounter, Agatha won't bother with anything else and just go for the quickdraw and disperse the forcefields. But maybe Sue goes for the multiple forcefields route (as she has done many times before) - one forcefield around herself as a shield (which Agatha can try and disperse), whilst simultaneously placing one in her brain, around her head, in her windpipe etc.
That's one strength of Sue that isn't often touched on, but she can do simultaneous offense and defense.
Smurph
Yeah, I think that's probably the answer - that Agatha could possibly do some damage if given time, but that Sue is faster and can multitask. But also, Sue's shields have gotten way stronger, and she's gotten better at modifying them to block out various things, so even if she just focused on defence, there's no guarantee that AH's spell would still be as effective. Hard to know with magic.
AH is one of those background characters who rarely enters the fray. Tho I won't be surprised if she gets some feats soon due to MCU push.
basilisk
The Salem witches defeated Sue by just stopping her from being able to create her shields, and Agatha was more powerful than them. That was 70s Sue but even with more powerful shields that could be a viable tactic if she can't use them in the first place.
There was also a Byrne story, when Sue was more powerful, where some random witch basically just handwaved her forcefield away.
And what is Agatha like these days anyway? Surely Marvel being what they are now she must also be "more powerful than ever" or using the "full potential" of her powers or whatever.
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