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Teaser Trailer

Sequel to CoD4. I guess they have remove "Call of Duty" out of the name. Makes the name a bit dry but I guess they are trying to separate WW2 from MW. Also, look closely at the teaser trailer becuase there are a lot of clues that might be in the game. Like the list of perks at 1:12 or the teddy bear in 1:24. So what do you guys think?

I can't wait. I've been waiting for this game since CoD4. I didn't bother playing World at War.

Another Call of Duty game is always great to have.

I just bloody hope they liven up the SP game. COD4 was fun as hell, but I'm getting tired of some of the repetitive nature of COD games.

Great news. Finally getting back to the type of CoD that doesn't suck.

Looking forward to it, the terrible teaser trailer really didn't give much away, but it seems to be more like the Rainbow Six Vegas games, set in buildings with civilians etc.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Another Call of Duty game is always great to have.

Well technicaly it's not a CoD, it's it's own series s now, free of the CoD tag.

Damn, I hope they will let you get in and actually control vehicles in this one.

Can't wait, it will be great to get back to a good CoD game.

Here's a list of leaked features, note that this is subject to change as well as speculation as to the reliability of the list.

* Vehicles will be in MW2
* M16 will return, using stopping power will only be OHK at head, neck, and torso (abdomen, limbs, and hands/feet will not)
* Ak47 and M4 will return, unknown if there are any changes
* M40 will return, ACOG damage boost will be fixed
* Scorpion, P90, M21, R700, G3, G360 will not return
* There are more unknown weapons that will not return
* New sniper rifle: SR25M (United states forces)
* New Assault rifle: Diemeco C8 (Canadian forces M4 equivalent)
* New Assault rifle: L85A2 (United Kingdom forces)
* Total weapons in multiplayer are said to be around 35
* Favourite Modern warfare 1 maps will return
* Helicopters, air strikes, UAV will return
* Red dot sightings will come in different shapes for multiplayer (circular, square, original)
* Snipers will have special grass camouflage (As seen in Modern warfare 1's campaign)
* All perks will return from MW except eavesdrop and others will be altered
* All gametypes will return from MW and all will have hardcore versions
* New gametype: Secure (Call of duty version of capture the flag, however you capture the enemy's Intel)
* New gametype unconfirmed name, similar to search and destroy, however instead of trying to plant a bomb, you try to kill a specified enemy
* Solider customization for each class (and each country)
* Sniper with silencers will NOT be in multiplayer
* There are NO bots in local multiplayer
* Similar version to Nazi Zombies, however details are unknown
* NO guest players online, 1 player per console
* Killcam save feature
* There is blood and gore
* Offline/Online Co-op
* Story takes place in the Middle East
* Role as US marines return
* Ken Lally voice work in campaign
* Release is set for sometime in November
* New army tags will be available to add different elements in campaign (similar to halo skulls)
* Campaign-only weapons

I like the sound of that.




And that.

Got a source for those leaks?

Originally posted by Morridini
Got a source for those leaks?

Numerous sites, I'll post a few here but as I said before this is subject to debate as to the reliability of the list. Some things sound genuine and about right, others well...

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=209704
http://criousgamer.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-details-leaked
http://ve3tro.com/1927/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2-details-leaked/

Source

Originally posted by Morridini
Looking forward to it, the terrible teaser trailer really didn't give much away, but it seems to be more like the Rainbow Six Vegas games, set in buildings with civilians etc.



Well technicaly it's not a CoD, it's it's own series s now, free of the CoD tag.

In my opinion, its still COD. Same team, sequel to COD4. It's Call of Duty, unless its been radically changed.

It's CoD that isn't weak.

Fun analysis of the trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47371.html?type=wmv

Originally posted by Morridini
Fun analysis of the trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/47371.html?type=wmv

You still post do you?

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/49095.html

New gameplay trailer. Doesn't so much except the locations and what not.

Doesn't so much what? You should finish sentences you begin.

It got my interest though, I like snow in games.

*show

Everybody makes typos.

if they had suicide bombings added to this i would love the game completely

Not long now.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Not long now.

Considering it's not out until November...yeah, still quite a wait, actually.

1 day after my birthday

Originally posted by Peach
Considering it's not out until November...yeah, still quite a wait, actually.

I pity you if you consider a few months time a long wait.

It's half a year. I didn't say it's a long wait, but it's not exactly a short one, either.

I wonder if they will have anything like the sniper mission on the last game

Originally posted by Peach
It's half a year. I didn't say it's a long wait, but it's not exactly a short one, either.

Fair enough.

Originally posted by SpadeKing
I wonder if they will have anything like the sniper mission on the last game

I hope so, that was quite fun, the end part of that mission I found to be very hard on Veteran.

Originally posted by General G
Fair enough.



I hope so, that was quite fun, the end part of that mission I found to be very hard on Veteran.

I took the coward's way out by hiding behind the bumper cars and throwing back every grenade and laying down waiting for enemies around the corner, picking up the captain after that was near impossible

Hopefully theres some multiplayer snow maps, they could add heat vision goggles as a perk. Also, how about EMP grenades to spice things up, they could switch off your HUD map and prevent you from calling in airstrike/helicopter for a minute or so.

Originally posted by +10STR
Hopefully theres some multiplayer snow maps, they could add heat vision goggles as a perk. Also, how about EMP grenades to spice things up, they could switch off your HUD map and prevent you from calling in airstrike/helicopter for a minute or so.

And, of course, you'd get the option of using 1 of your perks as emp shielding...I like this idea...probably wont be implemented but hey

I also said ages ago that thermal goggles that see through walls would be ace in conjunction with the deep impact perk.

I didn't like the implementation of vehicles in WaW though so I hope they don't bring that into play.

I also hope they make the maps maybe slightly bigger than modern warfare but smaller than WaW.

I'd also like the sniper rifles to have a bigger difference in power because the 50cal was just as useless at bringing down heli's as the less powerful rifles and given that the 50cal is supposed to be, in real life, at anti-material rifle then you think it'd be better to make it so in the game. I'd also like for them to implement it so if you directly shoot the pilot of the heli then you can take it down.

AND GET RID OF ****ING JUGGERNAUT...hahaha.

I don't find juggernaut to be that annoying, what they really should get rid of is Martyrdom and patch the invulnerability during the animation where you fall in to Last Stand, which in itself it totally worthless.

Martyrdom doesn't work anymore since people are now used to staying clear of an recently gunned down enemy, the only way to kill with it is through dumb luck, heck I think it's even starting to get people more teamkills than kills.

juggernaut is an incredibly tame perk compared to some others martydom being an example. i personally despise stopping power especially when someone is using it with an m16. the m16 is one-hit kill with SP on.

I've never seen the problem with Martyrdom, it's an excellent perk. It only hurts people who rush off without looking at where they go.

Play hardcore and you'll see what I mean and tbh, martyrdom doesn't make much sense since even if you've run out of nades you still drop one when you die and it's definitely the "noobiest" way to kill someone seing as you have to die to kill someone with it and doesn't require any kind of skill on the user's part.
Originally posted by WO Polaski
juggernaut is an incredibly tame perk compared to some others martydom being an example. i personally despise stopping power especially when someone is using it with an m16. the m16 is one-hit kill with SP on.
*Facepalm* I completely forgot about the massively overpowered M16, not much to say about it, I just want it get nerfed to shit so that people actually use other guns. I mean, they should at least make it less accurate or cut its firepower in half.

Originally posted by Morridini
I've never seen the problem with Martyrdom, it's an excellent perk. It only hurts people who rush off without looking at where they go.

My problem with it is not noobs doing it. I dont get killed by enemies with it too much. My problem is I only play HC with FF and marty on that is terrible. Especially objective games, makes it hard to take a flag when the guy next you is dropping nades on you.

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^ Game Informer Scans

And anyone who complains about Martyrdom or Juggernaut is the obvious noob. Those perks are pretty much well balanced.

F matrydom, I want an actual suicidal bomber where i can come up on a crowd of people and blow up

Originally posted by Gooogle Bot
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And anyone who complains about Martyrdom or Juggernaut is the obvious noob. Those perks are pretty much well balanced.

1st lot no longer work...last 2 are interesting...looks like part of it takes place in the favellas of Rio

As for the perks...Martyrdom can be useful on sabotage and get you a fair amount of kills if you carry the bomb a lot.

Granted, juggernaut isn't so much an issue in hardcore though.

Now, eavsdrop...what an utterly pointless perk that is given that most people seem to speak in parties rather than on the main game so you cant hear the enemy anyway...not to mention who the hell even talks about tactics anyway?

Oh...and anyone who still uses the word "noob" in 2009 is obviously a total ****ing retard.

If you're gonna say Juggernaut is cheap then you might as well claim Stopping Power cheap too. These 2 perks are meant to balance each other out (and they do). Martyrdom isn't cheap either, just don't walk up to a person that just pooped out a grenade. Seriously, you have 3.5 seconds (official stats) to either get away. M16 is strong gun no doubt but try using it in close range, it sucks. xD

@Jaden101: Do the images work now? I perfectly agree with you on the EV perk though, it's ****ing worthless. Oh and for your last post, GTFO, hahaha. (kidding man)

Okay, enough of my faggy ranting. =P

They're just saying "sorry removed by request" to me anyway. Don't know if it's the same for you.

The last 2 from the different website work ok though.

other perks i've personally never had much use for would be bomb squad, bandolier, c4, sleight of hand, double tap, sonic boom and steady aim.

Although i can see that some might be useful in search and destroy but i rarely play that.

For me, it all depends on the game. On hardcore i'll almost always equip UAV jammer. On sabotage i'll always equip extreme conditioning and smoke grenades...

On the rare occasion that I do play hardcore S+D then i'll use a G3 with acog scope, UAV jammer, claymores.

steady aim is good for sprayer weapons like the SMG's.

when I play TDM my usual "assault" loadout is MP5 with andolier steady aim and juggernaut. its a fun little combo because the mp5 weighs nothing so i can move really quickly and when i see someone i can weave back and fourth and jump and shit to throw off the aim assist, and steady aim keeps my accuracy up even though im firing from the hip. i miss a bunch which is why i have bandolier but the high clip size+ juggernaut which keeps me alive means i usually outlast my opponent unless theyre using an m16 or stopping power.

So you're basically admitting that you have no skill whatsoever at the game.

Nice.

Originally posted by Gooogle Bot
And anyone who complains about Martyrdom is the obvious noob.
Wow, what a compelling argument, would you mind actually explaining how it's not a completely worthless and stupid perk?

I'll keep in mind that it MAY have been a while since you've played, but now I find that hardly anyone kills with anyone with it (apart from friendlies during certain gametypes) anymore. Which just makes it pretty worthless, people should use more useful perks, like deep impact, steady aim, extreme conditioning or dead silence.

Originally posted by Raijin
Wow, what a compelling argument, would you mind actually explaining how it's not a completely worthless and stupid perk?

I'll keep in mind that it MAY have been a while since you've played, but now I find that hardly anyone kills with anyone with it (apart from friendlies during certain gametypes) anymore. Which just makes it pretty worthless, people should use more useful perks, like deep impact, steady aim, extreme conditioning or dead silence.

****.

I swear someone in the last thread was complaining about Martyrdom. Eh, I guess I'm used to people whining about the perk then actually calling it useless. Though to some extent, it's kinda useless 6v6 shipment match but other than that I agree with that.

Sorry, for my miss understanding, that must of made me look like a jerk, lulz.

Originally posted by jaden101
So you're basically admitting that you have no skill whatsoever at the game.

Nice.

im better then you im sure. no perk you use will change that.

Originally posted by Raijin
Play hardcore and you'll see what I mean and tbh, martyrdom doesn't make much sense since even if you've run out of nades you still drop one when you die and it's definitely the "noobiest" way to kill someone seing as you have to die to kill someone with it and doesn't require any kind of skill on the user's part.

Originally posted by forumcrew
My problem with it is not noobs doing it. I dont get killed by enemies with it too much. My problem is I only play HC with FF and marty on that is terrible. Especially objective games, makes it hard to take a flag when the guy next you is dropping nades on you.

I do play Hardcore a lot, only problem is that I don't find the game modes available in Hardcore mode any fun (Hardcore Sabotage and Headquarters please), yet it's still not a problem. And the extra gredane is easy to explain, just say it is fastened to your belt or something and when you die you simply rip it loose.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
im better then you im sure. no perk you use will change that.

The deflection argument doesn't work on people with more than half a brain. We're not talking about me. We're talking about you.

We'll go back to the bit where you admit you have no skill.



Yeah...That's it right there.

Originally posted by jaden101

other perks i've personally never had much use for would be bomb squad, bandolier, c4, sleight of hand, double tap, sonic boom and steady aim.



Some of those are pretty handy, but depends what weapons you use. Sleight of hand is awesome for heavy machine guns since they are a ***** to reload. Bandolier is good for sniper rifles. Never used the rest though.

Originally posted by +10STR
Some of those are pretty handy, but depends what weapons you use. Sleight of hand is awesome for heavy machine guns since they are a ***** to reload. Bandolier is good for sniper rifles. Never used the rest though.

I tend to avoid the LMG's to be honest except to get the achievements...I can see why sleight of hand would be good for them though.

Bomb squad and C4 are great for Search and Destroy and Sleight of hand and Double tap (for AK47) are insanely useful in HC Headquarters. Bandolier is only useful if you know you're good enough to survive long enough for your ammo to run out without it. Hope that made sense.
Originally posted by Morridini
I do play Hardcore a lot, only problem is that I don't find the game modes available in Hardcore mode any fun (Hardcore Sabotage and Headquarters please), yet it's still not a problem. And the extra gredane is easy to explain, just say it is fastened to your belt or something and when you die you simply rip it loose.

Well, they've added HC Headquarters (or "Hardquesters" on the 360 (dunno about the other versions of the game), and I love it tbh, you can rack up some really big scores and a crapload of kills. But what I don't understand is why the hell you have to play it on Shipment like 50% of the times, it's like a spawnkiller's paradise, the only way that map would work would be if they restricted explosives and airsupport on it.

Originally posted by jaden101
The deflection argument doesn't work on people with more than half a brain. We're not talking about me. We're talking about you.

We'll go back to the bit where you admit you have no skill.





alright. lets.

Why do you feel that my tactics point me to me not having any skill?

Originally posted by Raijin
Well, they've added HC Headquarters (or "Hardquesters" on the 360 (dunno about the other versions of the game), and I love it tbh, you can rack up some really big scores and a crapload of kills. But what I don't understand is why the hell you have to play it on Shipment like 50% of the times, it's like a spawnkiller's paradise, the only way that map would work would be if they restricted explosives and airsupport on it.


Ooooooooooh!

I gotta get Gold again then, after exams though.... Any other updates to the game?

And yes I too hate Shipment, but is perhaps the rarest map I've gotten in HQ, nevertheless I automaticly leave the server if that map pops up.

Originally posted by WO Polaski


alright. lets.

Why do you feel that my tactics point me to me not having any skill?

Because it's "spray and pray"...Quite simple really.

No actual aiming ability...Just shoot like **** in the general direction and hope someone on the other team dies.

Originally posted by jaden101
Because it's "spray and pray"...Quite simple really.

No actual aiming ability...Just shoot like **** in the general direction and hope someone on the other team dies.
Reminds me of my brother telling I suck because i only use machine guns and fire as many rounds as i can. That was my first time playing

(He recommends shotguns alot)

Shotguns are good on a few maps...Vacant, Killhouse, Shipment...anything in tight enclosed spaces really...pretty much useless on overgrown and creek.

Originally posted by jaden101
Because it's "spray and pray"...Quite simple really.

No actual aiming ability...Just shoot like **** in the general direction and hope someone on the other team dies.

not true at all. i never said that i dont aim and i never said that i aim erratically, so why assume that?

Originally posted by WO Polaski
not true at all. i never said that i dont aim and i never said that i aim erratically, so why assume that?

Might have something to do with the bit I already quoted....twice.

Might also have to do with this bit.

and... how does that translate into not aiming and hoping to hit something?

there are those of us who played shooters constantly on the PC, and thus don't rely on the console's little boy aim assist. i can aim a gun and move at the same time. is that.. unusual to you? are you one of those people who just lie on the ground and hope people walk by? im genuinly curious at this point.

Originally posted by WO Polaski
and... how does that translate into not aiming and hoping to hit something?

there are those of us who played shooters constantly on the PC, and thus don't rely on the console's little boy aim assist. i can aim a gun and move at the same time. is that.. unusual to you? are you one of those people who just lie on the ground and hope people walk by? im genuinly curious at this point.

What does your playing shooters on the PC have anything to do with what we're talking about? Again an attempt at deflection from the fact that you admit you shoot from the hip while jumping around and missing a lot.

That's not aiming...It's hoping.

I'm not saying your method is completely useless. It works on maps like vacant and more so if you're using a shotgun. Still doesn't mean that it involves any skill though because chances are that if the person is somewhere on the screen within 20 feet of you then you're going to kill them.

And no. I don't camp because it tends not to work on most maps. There are maps where it does work though. Crash and Overgrown are 2 good sniping maps and sniping kind of relies on staying in 1 spot for a while.

A good tactic for sniping is to get 2 kills from 1 spot....move to another overlooking your 1st spot....invariably 1 of the people you killed will think you are still there and try and sneak up on you...when they get to where you were....bang.

Originally posted by jaden101
What does your playing shooters on the PC have anything to do with what we're talking about? Again an attempt at deflection from the fact that you admit you shoot from the hip while jumping around and missing a lot.

That's not aiming...It's hoping.

so you don't have any actual reasoning for why it doesn't involve any skill. You're just making broad statements. And I'm the one deflecting? Feel free to explain why what I do doesn't involve aiming. You've failed twice so far with your little strawman.



This has nothing to do with what I've said.



Interesting dynamic. What type of rifle do you use?

Originally posted by WO Polaski
so you don't have any actual reasoning for why it doesn't involve any skill. You're just making broad statements. And I'm the one deflecting? Feel free to explain why what I do doesn't involve aiming. You've failed twice so far with your little strawman.

This has nothing to do with what I've said.

Interesting dynamic. What type of rifle do you use?

I haven't used a strawman tactic because I haven't misrepresented you in any way. So I can only presume you're just another in the long line of people who've heard the use of the term "strawman" and are using it incorrectly.

Yes, you're the one that's deflecting. I'm keeping the discussion about your claims...which you instigated. You're the one who tried to "deflect" it back to me.

Regardless. I've made my point and my opinion still holds and, in my opinion, is valid. Made all the more valid by your initial statement about missing a lot.

But on we go.

Usually I'll use the M21 and on more confined maps i'll use the G3 with either an ACOG or a red dot scope depending on what's most suitable. Neither of those 2 have a particularly large amount of power but with stopping power they both do the job. 1 shot kills on hardcore for the most part although sometimes I'll use UAV jammer instead.

Originally posted by jaden101
I haven't used a strawman tactic because I haven't misrepresented you in any way. So I can only presume you're just another in the long line of people who've heard the use of the term "strawman" and are using it incorrectly.

taking one portion of my argument and using it as the basis and then ignoring the rest, is a strawman.



this isn't a debate i can ask you questions whenever I feel.



well, you're entitled to your opinion, but in my opinion, you don't know what you're talking about.





Interesting. My quarrel with the ACOG scope is that it takes longer to go into (when you aim) then it does with the red dot or regular iron sights. i take it from that you prefer ranged fighting more then up-close then, I.E. shotsguns, SMG's etc?

Originally posted by WO Polaski
taking one portion of my argument and using it as the basis and then ignoring the rest, is a strawman. No it's not.

It is by some interpretations of the term.

I would know, I debate in the SWVF.

Would you like mt to explain teh burdon of proof?

I know what the burden of proof is and a strawman is.

So no.

Well you're clearly not compeltely familiar with every single interpretation of the straw man argument.

Originally posted by Fei Fong Wong
It is by some interpretations of the term.

Yes, by wrong interpretations of the term.




No...We'd like you to go away.



Well I guess our opinions will just have to differ. You think your technique involves skill. I don't.




True about the ACOG...The G3 is the only weapon I think suits it because it's a very stable weapon with little kick so even when someone is relatively close you can still keep them in your sight when firing. I would never put one on any of the other battle rifles for the opposite reason.

Yeah generally I'll choose to snipe if possible just out of preference. Obviously some maps don't lend themselves to it too well though.

I'll generally work through the challenges for the weapons using sniper and battle rifles 1st then move onto SMG's and LMG's and mostly just leave the shotgun challenges unless i'm cheating on cage match headshots to get my score and challenges completed.

Absolutely not, the basis for the interpretation would be that if you only address an insignificant aspect of your opponent's argument and make it out to be fundamental to their point then you're misrepresenting their overall position.

As I said, I'm a SWVF debator, I wouldn't go there if i wer you.

The most gifted minds on these boards reside in the SWFV.

Go away pathetic sock.

Are you that Nebaris bloke I have heard about?

If so, SWVF's debating credibility or not aside, they don't even take you seriously there. And since you're a sock, really no one here takes you seriously.

And the Strawman debating fallacy is when you basically corrupt the point of the poster's argument into something different, not focusing on one specific point of the argument to invalidate the whole thing. That is picking at straws, it is often confused with the strawman argument because of what it is called.

Yes.

Focusing on something insignificant alone is grasping at straws, yeah, but when you assert that the insignificant aspect you just addressed is a fundamental aspect of the argument, it comes into the territory of misrepresentation.

Gideon, who's basically the king of the SWVF, all but hero worships me.

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Nebaris and I disagree all the damn time, but I don't hesitate to point out that he has a gifted mind.



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Though, I will give Nebaris credit for milking every "loophole" he can access to try to defy canon. He'd make a decent lawyer, I'd wager.



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I appreciate the contributions, . As ever, you are a skilled debater.



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Now, eventually, we managed to convince the rest of the forum about Palpatine's status as the most powerful Sith Lord and this cabal abdicated the forums entirely. But this new user, known as Nebaris (it was his first username) has been repeatedly been banned for being a sock after his original account was removed for rule breaking. Now, he's clearly very intelligent, but has taken the role of "devil's advocate" to a new extreme.



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Nebaris has the advantage in that he is actually considerably intelligent.

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Originally posted by KCOS
Focusing on something insignificant alone is grasping at straws, yeah, but when you assert that the insignificant aspect you just addressed is a fundamental aspect of the argument, it comes into the territory of misrepresentation.

Since when is grasping at straws even the same thing as a strawman argument?

Are you an idiot?

Go back to the star wars v forum and stop clogging up the decent boards with your banal blabberings.

lmao

You literally just commited a straw man. I never said they were the same thing now did I?

Focusing on something insignificant alone is grasping at straws, yeah, but when you assert that the insignificant aspect you just addressed is a fundamental aspect of the argument, it comes into the territory of misrepresentation.

What I put in bold would represent the difference.

Originally posted by NOESOEB
lmao

You literally just commited a straw man. I never said they were the same thing now did I?

Focusing on something insignificant alone is grasping at straws, yeah, but when you assert that the insignificant aspect you just addressed is a fundamental aspect of the argument, it comes into the territory of misrepresentation.

What I put in bold would represent the difference.

So have you just given up on accusing me of using a strawman argument against WO Polaski then?

Wow...You're debating skills really are good.

*cough*

Really? Three posts in a row...that's annoying.

Originally posted by General G
Really? Three posts in a row...that's annoying.

When you spend time in the OTF you get used to it, however his senseless babble yeah that's really annoying.

So what do you guys want in the game? Some stuff I want is the same level of intensity in the MW1 campaign and more in depth multi-player that creates replay value (I have 13 days on MW1). For multi-player, I think they should have a tournament system + clan system. Tournament system like SF4 champ mode would be good enough. I don't know.


You?

Originally posted by Gooogle Bot
So what do you guys want in the game? Some stuff I want is the same level of intensity in the MW1 campaign and more in depth multi-player that creates replay value (I have 13 days on MW1). For multi-player, I think they should have a tournament system + clan system. Tournament system like SF4 champ mode would be good enough. I don't know.


You?

I'd like to see all the multiplayer maps available at different times of the day and night and in different weather conditions so you have to customise your camoflage to suit.

As someone mentioned before, thermal goggles would be good.

1 of the modes mentioned as a possible game type in multiplayer sounded good but turns out was fake...having to hunt down as certain player on the other team. (similar to the "kill the boss" on GTA4)

One thing I would definitley like to see for the singleplayer is a finite amount of enemies on the maps. Eternal respawns until you reach a specific spot is getting annoyng.

As for multiplayer, variants of the map is a good idea. Weather effects that matter and time of day. Also movable stuff, like blowing up a C4 next to boulders should send debris off, and a boat level should make the map move with the waves.

Also, the rewards for kill-streaks in multiplayer should perhaps be scaled a bit. I found the airstrikes were way too weak, standing 10 cm inside a door opening should not save you from tons of explosives.

Yeah, infinite respawns is bloody annoying.

I think rewards for killstreaks should not be in a MP game. On the PC with more than 20 people playing, its pretty much infinite airstrikes, helicopters and radar.

They should be rewarded for huge kill streaks. For example, get 10 kills in a row, get the ability for rader, and then increase because getting three kills in a row is pretty damn easy.

If they do make a Vietnam Call of Duty, I'm hoping they change the engine because its way to static to do Vietnam justice. I want to see trees and branches fall around you, and chaos, and not just one big scripted event. CryTech engine would be awesome for this possibility. It would also be cool if you get dropped off in the jungle and you have slowly walk your way through a patrol, worrying about getting involved with the enemy and instead of a scripted event, it just happens naturally, or seems to be natural.

It would be kinda of cool.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I think rewards for killstreaks should not be in a MP game. On the PC with more than 20 people playing, its pretty much infinite airstrikes, helicopters and radar.

They should be rewarded for huge kill streaks. For example, get 10 kills in a row, get the ability for rader, and then increase because getting three kills in a row is pretty damn easy.

Well I don't think we console players have that problem, I've always felt that the 3-5-7 kills has been very sufficient, but I also think a 15 kill streak would be worth something too. But short of a tactical nuke I don't know what that should be.

Originally posted by Morridini
One thing I would definitley like to see for the singleplayer is a finite amount of enemies on the maps. Eternal respawns until you reach a specific spot is getting annoyng.
They claim that they are gonna remove the infinite enemies this time.

Originally posted by Morridini
Well I don't think we console players have that problem, I've always felt that the 3-5-7 kills has been very sufficient, but I also think a 15 kill streak would be worth something too. But short of a tactical nuke I don't know what that should be.

So maybe in the PC version, they up the kill streak awards because with 40 person game, you always see them.

Also, if you die before you can use the rewards, maybe they are taken away?

Originally posted by Gooogle Bot
They claim that they are gonna remove the infinite enemies this time.

Good.

Originally posted by Morridini
Well I don't think we console players have that problem, I've always felt that the 3-5-7 kills has been very sufficient, but I also think a 15 kill streak would be worth something too. But short of a tactical nuke I don't know what that should be.

Perhaps just some kind of building penetrating bomb but only does 1 building would be a good thing to add for a kill streak....Maybe even just to replace the airstrike. That way you would get less team kills on hardcore although you'd get less kills than the airstrike unless they were all camping in the one building (or part of a building because killing everyone in 1 building on "bloc" would just be unfair.

Even a choice of which to use would be good...UAV radar or UAV camera flypass...airstrike of cruise missle strike....chopper or tank (tank would be easier to hit but take more damage before destroying it...chopper would be destroyed easier but harder to hit)

I saw the commercial for this game and I could've sworn I saw submarines doing an underwater battle. Does this mean I will control a sub or am I just gonna man the turrets or whatever?

Originally posted by jaden101
Perhaps just some kind of building penetrating bomb but only does 1 building would be a good thing to add for a kill streak....Maybe even just to replace the airstrike. That way you would get less team kills on hardcore although you'd get less kills than the airstrike unless they were all camping in the one building (or part of a building because killing everyone in 1 building on "bloc" would just be unfair.

Even a choice of which to use would be good...UAV radar or UAV camera flypass...airstrike of cruise missle strike....chopper or tank (tank would be easier to hit but take more damage before destroying it...chopper would be destroyed easier but harder to hit)

I dont think a tank would work that well, or it would require alot of scripting to figure where the tank would go.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I dont think a tank would work that well, or it would require alot of scripting to figure where the tank would go. Not only that, it would also require the maps to be more open with less objects/cover.

Speaking of which, I hope they keep some of the best maps from CoD4, like Crash and Overgrown.

They should keep all the maps, maybe age them like they did in Gears 2 with the Gears 1 maps.

Originally posted by Smasandian
I dont think a tank would work that well, or it would require alot of scripting to figure where the tank would go.

Would depend on the level I think. I don't think they would require anymore scripting than the helicoptors on CoD4 as they always stuck to the same patterns and flew to the same positions.

Granted they'd be a bit pointless of small maps or mostly indoor maps but that's why it'd be good if you got the choice.

Maps from 4 that a tank would've been good on would be overgrown, crash, crossfire, backlot, Chinatown, Ambush, Bog, Countdown and strike

Obviously wouldn't be good on wetwork, vacant, shipment, killhouse, creek, showdown or bloc.

I'd prefer it as a kill streak option than a vehicle like in WaW.

Originally posted by Nemesis X
I saw the commercial for this game and I could've sworn I saw submarines doing an underwater battle. Does this mean I will control a sub or am I just gonna man the turrets or whatever?

I presume you mean this one?

http://ready2beat.com/entertainment/games/modern-warfare-2-commercial-video

Originally posted by jaden101
Would depend on the level I think. I don't think they would require anymore scripting than the helicoptors on CoD4 as they always stuck to the same patterns and flew to the same positions.

Granted they'd be a bit pointless of small maps or mostly indoor maps but that's why it'd be good if you got the choice.

Maps from 4 that a tank would've been good on would be overgrown, crash, crossfire, backlot, Chinatown, Ambush, Bog, Countdown and strike

Obviously wouldn't be good on wetwork, vacant, shipment, killhouse, creek, showdown or bloc.

I'd prefer it as a kill streak option than a vehicle like in WaW.

Well no, you would need to script alot more for a tank because it has to navigate the map without clipping through walls, or breaking them down and if they did break them down, you would have no buildings after that.

The helicopter is in the air and can go anywhere.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Well no, you would need to script alot more for a tank because it has to navigate the map without clipping through walls, or breaking them down and if they did break them down, you would have no buildings after that.

The helicopter is in the air and can go anywhere.

But the point is they don't go anywhere...They're scripted to follow the same path specific to each level. You can see this more on "ambush" than any other map because they always sit in same places where they are either easy to hit with the MG or just outside the MG's range. The only difference is they're in the air and not on the ground.

Granted a tank would need to react to surroundings more and more so if they were to introduce destroyable enviroments but I don't think it's outwith the game developers ability.

It might not, but the time it would take to do that would be insane. Also the fact that collision detection would be insane, and that every map would be design to allow tanks into it.

It wont be worth it.

Originally posted by Smasandian
It might not, but the time it would take to do that would be insane. Also the fact that collision detection would be insane, and that every map would be design to allow tanks into it.

It wont be worth it.

No the maps wouldn't be designed all for tanks...That's the point...You'd have to choose which would get you the better results...Hence choosing a tank on certain levels would be pointless as they'd only be able to access a small portion of the map.

Why would it take any longer to script their routes anymore than it did to do the helis in CoD4?

Because there are no obstructions in the air and the chopper can just clip straight through tall buildings, meaning they never really had to change anything about the maps for it to fit in.

Same can't be said about a tank, it'd mean they'd have to adapt the map for some AI controlled bonus that gets you kills, which is pretty stupid. And if they were to add tanks you could use yourself I'd get pissed as it's one of the reasons why I hate CoD WaW.

Same thing he said.

Originally posted by Raijin
Because there are no obstructions in the air and the chopper can just clip straight through tall buildings, meaning they never really had to change anything about the maps for it to fit in.

Same can't be said about a tank, it'd mean they'd have to adapt the map for some AI controlled bonus that gets you kills, which is pretty stupid. And if they were to add tanks you could use yourself I'd get pissed as it's one of the reasons why I hate CoD WaW.

But they still follow scripted paths...A tank would be no different. The scripted paths would just follow the main routes of the maps where they could fit.

I do agree with the controlled tanks in WaW though hence the reason i'm saying kill streak AI tanks would be better on certain maps. It would also mean that smoke grenades and C4 would have another purpose on multiplayer just like they do in the single player.

It would be alot more scripting involved and you would have to make the maps specifically for the tanks.

I actually feel that i'm speaking to a brick wall so nevermind. I'll say no more about it.

As for something I'd like to see. Pistol achievments.

Originally posted by jaden101
I actually feel that i'm speaking to a brick wall so nevermind. I'll say no more about it.

It does however seem that you don't understand what they are saying. There simply are maps where the tank would not have room to move about in.

Originally posted by Morridini
It does however seem that you don't understand what they are saying. There simply are maps where the tank would not have room to move about in.

I've addressed that several times.

Another teaser.

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusive-gameplay-modern-warfare/49544

First real trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/reveal-trailer-modern-warfare/49656
With gameplay and plot.

Looks like I was right about the Rio thing. I like the idea of having innocent civilians in the line of fire. Wonder if that'll transfer into multiplayer...points deducted for killing innocents as well as team kills...Or even some kind of hostage saving based multiplayer game.

Originally posted by jaden101
Wonder if that'll transfer into multiplayer...points deducted for killing innocents as well as team kills...

That I'd love to see, people would be a bit more wary of spamming grenades and running around like Rambo.

makarov is a handgun.

this looks great.

Some even more juicy info about the game. Also, notice how one of the manager of Activision predicts that MW2 will be the top selling game ever. Hmm, confident much?


Power Unlimited Modern Warfare 2 Demo Hands On

Not too sure about the guys voice though. Reminds me of that squeeky irritating guy from RE4.

I dont think it will become the best selling game ever, but it will sell a lot.

Finally saw the trailer and i would have to say it looks like its gonna be a great game

All i can say on the matter is BEHOLD THE AWESOMENESS OF INFINITY WARD!!!!! GOOOO INFINITY!!

and relax



:P

heres a gameplay vid of one of those demos.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUmTdeaoiQ

game looks sick.

I want this game now but it won't be out until November. Dang it.

I want this game...but I don't want the enemies having the stupid infinite respawn.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
I want this game...but I don't want the enemies having the stupid infinite respawn. They have confirmed that they are gonna fix this.

One of the few reasons im getting a ps3.

Originally posted by Gooogle Bot
They have confirmed that they are gonna fix this.

You just made my day. THANKS!

Originally posted by k1Lla441
One of the few reasons im getting a ps3.

a game that isnt a PS3 exclusive is one of the reasons why youre buying a PS3?

YES!! This game looks so ****ing serious.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
You just made my day. THANKS!

I think the news made everyone day, I mean the real let down with the single player mode was the infinite enemy respawns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMSS12iY1X0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJcOy6iuUc&feature=channel_page

this is going to be game of the year.

there hasnt been a single game thats come out in the last year and a half that can top this. there simply isnt. its impossible.

i am so psyched!

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this is going to be game of the year.

there hasnt been a single game thats come out in the last year and a half that can top this. there simply isnt. its impossible.

i am so psyched!

Bioshock 2 would've owned Modern Warfare 2 if it wasn't delayed but since it is, MW2 is 2009's game of the year.

pffft. no.

edit- well i should restrain myself. i obviously can not see the future and weve only seen glimpses of the two games. but when i look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxKfhSHsMx0

and compare it to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZUmTdeaoiQ

and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBJc...re=channel_page

i just get bored thinking about bioshock.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this is going to be game of the year.

there hasnt been a single game thats come out in the last year and a half that can top this. there simply isnt. its impossible.

i am so psyched!

If SC2 comes out in 2009, Modern Warfare 2 can kiss GotY goodbye. At least in my not-so-humble opinion. But then again, there are plenty of game reviewers who hand out the Game of the Year title, some of them do it genre-by-genre.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this is going to be game of the year.

there hasnt been a single game thats come out in the last year and a half that can top this. there simply isnt. its impossible.

i am so psyched! You know.. I was just about to question your feelings on this.. but after watching that video.. I'm speechless, and will be buying this game

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
I just get bored thinking about bioshock.

Never speak these words in here ever again!

Also seems like MWII has a new style.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
If SC2 comes out in 2009, Modern Warfare 2 can kiss GotY goodbye. At least in my not-so-humble opinion. But then again, there are plenty of game reviewers who hand out the Game of the Year title, some of them do it genre-by-genre.

SC2?

starcraft 2?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
this is going to be game of the year.

there hasnt been a single game thats come out in the last year and a half that can top this. there simply isnt. its impossible.

i am so psyched!

So true

COD series huge fan here eheh

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
SC2?

starcraft 2?

Yeah.

so what you're saying is you'd prefer arkham asylum.. which is a super auto-guard dash-punch spam fest (albiet probably a good adventure, save for the crappy combat), over what seems to be game of the year material? o_O

I'm all for a good beat-em-up.. but the demo I played of AA really wasnt good at all

You must be cheap to not pay 55 the game will be game of the year easily

Lol, agreed

but on the first post of this thread you said you couldnt wait to get back into a good game od cod which makes you a hipocrit sir

That's just a ripoff. But you wanna know what's the best part? The CEO of Activision said that he wouldn't mind increasing the price even further. What a douchenozzle.