Raziel vs Cloud

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Gumachi
Having a debate, and someone thinks Cloud>Raziel. Both have all abilities. Who wins?

King-Fingolfin
Frankly, Cloud's best bet is a speed blitz. Any other way, Raziel wins.

Gumachi
BUMP.

Pyron_Knight
Um..Cloud can't put Raziel down. He'll just come back as strong as ever.
While Raziel has TK Cloud can't counter and a one-hit kill weapon.

Raziel wins.

leonheartmm
clouds are made of water vapour 10s of kilometres off the ground.

hows raziel going to get that high up? hows he going to damage a cloud? whats he going to do if the cloud gets angry and zaps him with a lightening bolt? all things to consider before answering.

King-Fingolfin
/facepalm

Demonic Phoenix
Cloud, his Limit Break from AC is enough to beat Raziel's physical body.

Gumachi, you're starting too many threads, don't mean to sound like a pr***, but you probably need to dial it down.

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