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'Secret Wars II' Beyonder vs Dc's 10th-dimensional being, the Ultimator.

LETS GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!! drunk

Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins.

Beyonder.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Beyonder.

Care to elaborate why?

Originally posted by theICONiac
Care to elaborate why?
There are beings in the DCU who could defeat Ultimator.

There were no beings in the MU capable of defeating PRB.

Originally posted by Enyalus
There are beings in the DCU who could defeat Ultimator.

There were no beings in the MU capable of defeating PRB.

How was the Ultimator defeated? I am vaguely aware of Mxy pulling facsimiles of mainline DC characters to fight him/her...not sure how it all came to be.

He made his own comic and made ultimator go in. Pure PIS but whatever. Beyonder can't do what Mxy did.

Originally posted by theICONiac
How was the Ultimator defeated? I am vaguely aware of Mxy pulling facsimiles of mainline DC characters to fight him/her...not sure how it all came to be.

He had Ultimator chase him into Dream's realm, and Dream bored Ultimator to sleep. Then Mxy jumped out of the comic and wrapped it in plastic to seal Ultimator in.

Ultimators defeat was b/c mxy doesn't have to follow the comic book rules. PR Beyonder does. So it could be an interesting fight. But I still say PR Beyonder > Ultimator

Beyonder erases her/it/whatever.

Beyonder win as usual..

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
Ultimators defeat was b/c mxy doesn't have to follow the comic book rules. PR Beyonder does. So it could be an interesting fight. But I still say PR Beyonder > Ultimator

Despite being as powerful as he is, Beyonder screwed up in SW1 and Doom took his power...All brawn, no brains???

Ult.

Originally posted by Galan007
Ult.
Don't be so ghey.

I just don't see B pwning numerous 5-D imps like they were fodder. Thats just my opinion, don't care if it's disagreed with.









And YOU'RE teh ghey 1!!

Originally posted by Galan007
I just don't see B pwning numerous 5-D imps like they were fodder. Thats just my opinion, don't care if it's disagreed with.
We've been over this before. Of course you care if you're disagreed with. And that's okay.

She kicked their ass in the 5th Dimension, though. Aren't they much less powerful there? The reason they can do all the things they can do when they visit the 3rd dimension is because 3rd dimension laws work much differently... ?

Originally posted by Enyalus
She kicked their ass in the 5th Dimension, though. Aren't they much less powerful there? No.

Originally posted by Galan007
No.
What if I pretended they were?

Galan is a Beyonder hater.

Beyonder wins. Ultimator is not equal to TOAA and that is what it takes to defeat Beyonder.

Pre-Retcon Beyonder wins easily.

Originally posted by Galan007
I just don't see B pwning numerous 5-D imps like they were fodder.
He took down Molecule man, who after the battle confirmed that Beyonder was as many times powerful as he, as he was more powerful than Captain America.

So Molecule man would qualify as Beyonder fodder, if you qualify Captain America as Molecule man fodder.

Molecule man was greater than the Living Tribunal.

Originally posted by Astner
He took down Molecule man, who after the battle confirmed that Beyonder was as many times powerful as he, as he was more powerful than Captain America.

Molecule Man would also take Ultimator down.
Ultimator doesn't stand 1% of a chance to even give a challenge to PreR Beyonder.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Beyonder can't do what Mxy did.
Beyonder would blink Mxy out

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
Beyonder would blink Mxy out
Mxy makes his own comic and makes beyonder go in to fight. MXy wins.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Mxy makes his own comic and makes beyonder go in to fight. MXy wins.

And then She-Hulk comes and owns Mxy.

Originally posted by Xplosive
And then She-Hulk comes and owns Mxy.
By ripping the comic? He lives in the real world.. Apparently

Originally posted by Mindset
Galan is a Beyonder hater. Nah, I'm just not one of the people who likes riding his bone....















































.... Or do I? ermmhappy

PR Beyonder was the epitome of hyperbole.
"Drop in an ocean" my ass.

AFAIK Beyonder is bound by comic book laws. He's never been able to walk out of the 4th wall iirc.
So he won't be able to pull off what Mxy did.
Ultimator wins.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
PR Beyonder was the epitome of hyperbole.
"Drop in an ocean" my ass.

AFAIK Beyonder is bound by comic book laws. He's never been able to walk out of the 4th wall iirc.
So he won't be able to pull off what Mxy did.
Ultimator wins.

yawn

Originally posted by Doom and Gloom
yawn
You know it's true. So yawn all you want

If the writers were writing the fight beyonder wins. If you go by powers displayed only someone who can do what mxy did can beat him. It's odd that mxy seems to be the only 5d imp that can do such crazy stuff (bat-mite doesn't count he's just 1% of mxy).

Originally posted by LDHZenkai
If the writers were writing the fight beyonder wins. If you go by powers displayed only someone who can do what mxy did can beat him. It's odd that mxy seems to be the only 5d imp that can do such crazy stuff (bat-mite doesn't count he's just 1% of mxy).
there power depends on will power

The abilities an imp displays are powered solely on imagination. In the 5th dimension, their tech/powers actually produce 'thought pollution.'

Originally posted by Galan007
The abilities an imp displays are powered solely on imagination. In the 5th dimension, their tech/powers actually produce 'thought pollution.'

Haven't they been stated to be magic based?

Its been described as both

it seems like magic. but he usually says it's just 5d tech that's so advanced it appears to magic to everyone else, even cosmic level beings. but basically mxys power are w/e the writer wants them to be at the time. his powers are the writers imagination.

Beyonder's imagination are the writer's powers. biscuits

Same with Mixed Pickle's. crackers