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who wins

Team 2.

Russian Zod was a beast.

Dont know Russian Zod. Sounds interesting though.

Cool character

I take Team One

Team 1 for the easy win.

Russian Zod was only impressive when he could trick Superman. His best feat was probably breaking Superman's jaw by sucker punching him.

When Superman decided that he had enough he beat the shit out Russian Zod. This was when the sun was "Red".

For those who don't know, Russian Zod gets powered from Red Solar energy while Superman is weakened by it. Superman had a minor boost of solar energy when the Sun itself was emitting red Solar energy<meaning he was weaker than his regular self> did this to Russian Zod:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9259/48860625.th.jpghttp://img18.imageshack.us/img18/3497/81797715.th.jpghttp://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8557/88686156.th.jpghttp://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1571/88174122.th.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1938/77959657.th.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2854/97630588.th.jpghttp://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6407/54521375.th.jpghttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7865/91044403.th.jpg

-To make matter worse both of team 1 can produce Solar energy to depower Zod Instantly<at least Firelord can>. Frankie isn't helping much here

cool scans

wats that from

Heh.

(I'm going to use thumbnails so it's probably going to take a few posts.)



This feat, when he broke his jaw and was about to kill Superman ?

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodBreakingJaw1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodBreakingJaw2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodBreakingJaw3.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodBreakingJaw4.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodBreakingJaw5.jpg

Well then, it's a good thing it's stated that even if Superman would have seen that one coming, nothing would have changed:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_WouldntHaveMattered.jpg

Originally posted by kgkg
When Superman decided that he had enough he beat the shit out Russian Zod. This was when the sun was "Red".

For those who don't know, Russian Zod gets powered from Red Solar energy while Superman is weakened by it. Superman had a minor boost of solar energy when the Sun itself was emitting red Solar energy<meaning he was weaker than his regular self> did this to Russian Zod:

*skip*

Actually, you are wrong there. While the sun was red and Superman was only going by the solar-boost he got from this guy ..

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SolarBoost1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SolarBoost2.jpg

.. he got his ass kicked, as this scans show:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodwhileRedSun1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodwhileRedSun2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodwhileRedSun3.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodwhileRedSun4.jpg

After this, in this scan it is made quite clear that 50% of what made the sun red is shut down, and when Metallo says that he can get the sun to full-on yellow in seconds, Lex tells him to do it only on his comand because he wants Superman and Zod to fight as equals, which you conveniently left out.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_LexFightingAsEquals.jpg

And this is where they square off as equals, with Superman extremly motivated. Superman beats him, afterwards the synchronization Lex was talking about taking place and Zod killing himself by hitting himself on Superman's body while the sun was fully Yellow:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodEquals1.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodEquals2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodEquals3.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodEquals4.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_SupermanvsZodEquals5.jpg

So it seems the showing you used to make it seem as if Zod is far less formidable that he actually is doesn't really help you at all.

Originally posted by kgkg
-To make matter worse both of team 1 can produce Solar energy to depower Zod Instantly<at least Firelord can>. Frankie isn't helping much here

Good thing that he has the costume on, which renders solar attacks null. Or, since the last time we've seen him he had no solar costume and he is depowered under a yellow sun, it means this whole battle will be taking place under a red one in order for the combatants to fight at full capacity.

team 2 in a stomp

Now, since I got started, I'm going to show more stuff about how powerfull this version of Zod is.

Here is another fight he had with Superman, in which he seems to hold the advantage:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman2.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman3.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman4.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman5.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman6.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman7.jpghttp://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodUpperhandvsSuperman8.jpg

And here it's stated that Zod destroyed 2 Imperiex probes to Superman's shock:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/th_ZodDestroyed2Probes.jpg

Needless to say for those who've read OWAW, the probes are formidable in combat.

The idea that Firelord or Sentry could hope to challenge a Russian Zod? Preposterous

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
The idea that Firelord or Sentry could hope to challenge a Russian Zod? Preposterous

uhuh

Awesome job Phil.

I completely forgot about the 2 probes.

Originally posted by guy222
cool scans

wats that from From the "Harvest" Action Comics 805.

To further expand on the scans Phil posted where Russian Zod had an advantage few important things people need to know.

1.)This is when superman would not use his full power. While Zod did. Him not willing to kill out of fear of what he did to Parallel universe Zod affected him mental that's why you see Zod having an upper hand - also Zod had been studying Superman so he had knowledge of what superman did in battle.

http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4613/fearofzod.th.jpghttp://img102.imageshack.us/img102/1006/fearofzod2.th.jpg


Here is what would have happen if Superman was willing to kill Russian Zod.

http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/1066/81323535.th.jpghttp://img294.imageshack.us/img294/9281/88883691.th.jpg



Once this "fear" is gone and Superman is no longer affected by this. Superman wins as the scans I posted.
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/1571/88174122.th.jpghttp://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1938/77959657.th.jpghttp://img26.imageshack.us/img26/2854/97630588.th.jpghttp://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6407/54521375.th.jpghttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7865/91044403.th.jpg


^ Shows two things Superman > Russian Zod who doesn't even land a punch when they are in equal footing <solar energy wise>. The second thing is how quickly he can depowerded with yellow solar energy.

Originally posted by kgkg
Stated by a robot obviously wrong as we see the actually fight.

The fights don't prove anything, as neither one of them contradicts the fact that Zod coming at high speeds twoards Superman and getting a clean jaw punch wouldn't have the same effect.

Originally posted by kgkg
Zod had the Upper hand Superman was still able to get good shots in Originally posted by kgkg
No. We clearly see Superman beating him up badly when they had equal source of power. Look at the scans when the fight was suppose to be 50% of both types of energy. Zod doesn't get one hit in. Superman could have easily killed him.

Where did I say otherwise ? Hey, it's obvious that you mis-remembered things, and it happens so I don't hold it against you, but at least don't try to twist things around.

You said that Superman "beat the shit out of Zod" under a Red Sun once he got enough of him. I corrected it, brought evidence, and pointed out that Superman defeated him only after they were on equal grounds, and that while the sun was red he was at a disadvantage.

Now you're trying to make it seem as if I somehow said Zod > Superman. What's up with this ?

I'm not even going to go into the fight, where you completly ignore the fact that Zod has another herald as a teammate, where you presume that for some reason Firelord starts destroying Zod's armor and shooting Yellow sunlight at him or even a better one, presume what yellow sunlight blasts do to Zod while he is under a Red Sun by connecting him to some Superman instance.

ermm

Originally posted by kgkg
From the "Harvest" Action Comics 805.

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