Choronzon vs. Darkseid

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Endless Mike
Choronzon from Sandman who knows the Anti-Life Equation

Darkseid at his best post-crisis showing not counting Final Crisis or DOTNG

Galan007
Darkseid.

Choronzon's best 'feat' amounts to nothing more then a battle of wits with Dream.

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
Darkseid.

Choronzon's best 'feat' amounts to nothing more then a battle of wits with Dream.
Yeah, and then there was that very inappropriate sex comment in Lucifer.

But if Choronzon has the ALE, then this is a wash. He wins. DS doesn't know the Life Equation....

Galan007
Originally posted by Enyalus
But if Choronzon has the ALE, then this is a wash. He wins. DS doesn't know the Life Equation.... Never once did I get the impression that Choronzon actually knew the ALE:

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1731877_d1.jpg http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1731878_d2.jpg http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1731879_d3.jpg http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1731880_d4.jpg

Claiming to be something, and actually being it, are two completely different things. For instance, Dream claimed to be the universe in the panel just prior to Choronzon's ALE comment (and we know he's definitely not.) *shrug*

Enyalus
Originally posted by Galan007
Never once did I get the impression that Choronzon actually knew the ALE.

The OP says he does...

Galan007
^ It seems like EM was under the impression that Choronzon already knew the ALE. Not necessarily that he's giving it to him in this battle. Could be wrong.

Endless Mike
I don't see why Dream couldn't be a universe. He is a powerful abstract.

I interpreted that battle as them actually transforming into the things they said.

Mindset
Charizard?

Galan007
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I interpreted that battle as them actually transforming into the things they said. I didn't, but that's just MO.

TricksterPriest
It's a brilliant sequence. Hard to say whether they are actually becoming the things they describe, or whether it's just a metaphor. Dream has mad mike skillz. big grin thumb up Neil Gaiman's work?

Enyalus
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
big grin thumb up Neil Gaiman's work?
Wurd.

Kris Blaze
Originally posted by Galan007
I didn't, but that's just MO.

Same.

Seriously, I don't even understand how anyone could.

King Kandy
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I don't see why Dream couldn't be a universe. He is a powerful abstract.

I interpreted that battle as them actually transforming into the things they said.
Dream is limited by the universe, so how could he be anything equal to it? In any case, just because there were pictures of the stuff by no means shows that they became the thing. And a minor demon who could be bound up by spider web is in no way a universe destroying power.

Mindset
There's only 1 dream for the multiverse, right?

Endless Mike
I don't know where you get he was limited to the universe. In fact didn't he make Superman dream of Pre-Crisis stuff?

King Kandy
Originally posted by Endless Mike
I don't know where you get he was limited to the universe. In fact didn't he make Superman dream of Pre-Crisis stuff?
Yeah i'm actually not sure how that works. Destruction said that only Death is beyond the universe. I just don't know how to explain that one.

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