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For those of you that didn't know, Cryptic Studios is developing a Star Trek based MMO game; will be out on PC and the XBox360, PS3 being another possibility. Great thing about it, PC players and game console players will be able to play together on the same servers, if they choose. Considering that multitude of ST fans, this game could easily rival World of Warcraft in terms of members/players.

http://www.startrekonline.com/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Startrek_online

yeah, i've been following this for a while now. i can't wait. kind of irked at the lack of crewmembers per ship that i could interact with, but i doubt it'll stop me playing the game...

I'm glad it's being set in the later timeline rather than that of the new movie. It hopefully means encounters with all the best bad guys, the Borg, species 8472, the Dominion, the Cardassians. Being confined to the Romulans and Klingons would be too limiting.

Originally posted by jaden101
I'm glad it's being set in the later timeline rather than that of the new movie. It hopefully means encounters with all the best bad guys, the Borg, species 8472, the Dominion, the Cardassians. Being confined to the Romulans and Klingons would be too limiting.

from what ive heard, you can be part of starfleet or the klingon empire. far as enemies, the borg were in the trailer, so fingers crossed...

I just may buy this

So I'm assuming this is a "pay-per-month" kind of game? Damn.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
So I'm assuming this is a "pay-per-month" kind of game? Damn.

I would guess for the PC version, but if you're already pay for Xbox online services ($50.00 a year), I'd assume there wouldn't be additional fees to play it on that console.

Originally posted by Robtard
I would guess for the PC version, but if you're already pay for Xbox online services ($50.00 a year), I'd assume there wouldn't be additional fees to play it on that console. What's that again?! Does Xbox online offer that sort of service?

Originally posted by Badabing
What's that again?! Does Xbox online offer that sort of service?

For $50.00 a year, you get unlimited access to play games on the Xbox server.

Ok, this is the list of details for the game itself:

General gameplay:
There will be a lot of references to familiar storylines and characters, and certainly some familiar locations, but mainly this is supposed to be your experience.
At launch, you'll be a member of either Starfleet or the Klingon Defense Force, but other factions may be added later on, such as "the Dominion and the Romulans". Privateering may be possible later on.
You might not be able to play a Klingon Starfleet officer or a Human fighting for the Empire, but the character creator will allow you to create something similar.
With Starfleet, you start out with a ship of the Miranda configuration.
If your whole party is wiped out while you're doing a mission, you should be able to pick up where you left off. You won't lose your ship when it's destroyed.
You shouldn't have to play for hours on end to be competitive.
You don't have to be a Trek-fan to enjoy this game, but you'll learn a lot about Star Trek in the process.
Where possible, the game will provide non-violent ways to resolve conflicts.
Time travel may be in the game, but because each era requires a lot of work, it will be limited.
Crafting will be present in the sense that you can tinker with your systems.

Story:
The game takes place in the classical timeline, not in that of the 2009 movie. Source]
The game takes place in 2409; roughly 30 years after Star Trek: Nemesis.
The Khitomer Accords are "long past". The Federation and the Klingons are at the verge of war with each other.
Gorn, Nausicaans and Orion are on the Klingon side. Humans, Vulcans, Bajorans, Andorians, Ferengi, and Tellarites are playable Federation races.
An ancient threat out of Star Trek canon will reemerge.
On top of being at war with the Federation, the Klingon Empire has annexed Romulan space, reclaiming Khitomer, and apparently entering into hostilities with the Gorn Hegemony.
The Romulan Empire is crumbling, as is the Cardassian Union. Romulus and Remus have been destroyed in an event that also killed the contemporary Praetor along with the ruling council of the Senate.
Bajor is on the way to Federation membership.
The production of mobile emitters and Soong-type androids is being researched into.

Combat:
Starship battles are tactical and slow-pace ("like tall ships"; you will be able to give commands such as "Repair a hull breach on deck X" or "Reroute energy from engines to weapons".
Ground-based combat will be more fast-paced, with both melee and ranged attacks. Defensive options like using personal shields and ducking for cover will be available.
Tactics will probably not be just like traditional MMOG tactics, with tanks and buffers and so forth.
You can move around and fight in three dimensions, but often players will just naturally choose to keep fairly "level" during combat. Cryptic doesn't "want it to be a dogfight".

Customization:
There are familiar races to choose from, but you can also create your own.
You'll be able to edit "everything" about your character; check out the Character editor video!
You can "mix and match" features from already existing races when creating a new species, but there will also be a lot of original body parts available.
The species will be balanced, even when some would argue that canon suggests they should not be. So, for instance, Vulcans won't be just plain superior to Humans in every measurable sense.
When you select a faction, you cannot select a species from the other faction (for instance, playing an Orion in Starfleet will not be a pre-defined option). However, you can create that race in the character editor and call it whatever you want, no matter what faction you're with.
The character editor does not only allow you to determine what your species looks like, but also what abilities come with it.
At launch, all characters created will be humanoid.
When you've created the blueprint for a species, you can share it with your friends, so that they can create a character based on your design.
The three major careers are Engineering, Science and Tactical. There is a lot of customization within the career.
You will unlock different starship configurations that encompass several ships of similar design (for instance, the Miranda-class and Centaur-type ships have design traits in common that separate them from many other ships). You can modify all the different parts of the ship, and upgrade the various systems, but you will always be able to tell roughly what configuration it is based on (a Miranda-class variant always looks like a Miranda-class variant, as opposed to a modded Defiant). Here is a demonstration of this.
There are over a dozen of these configurations.
Your ship configuration determines which of your bridge officers can be active. For instance, an escort-type ship may have more Tactical officers on the bridge than a science ship.
There is additional diversity in ship customization on the Klingon side because the different species' (Klingons, Gorn, Orion, etc.) ships are very different from each other.
You can pick your ship name and registry number.
Uniforms can be customized to some extent.
In the future, players may get access to more of the tools, allowing them to create missions and the like.

Canon vs. Apocrypha:
The shows and films are law.
Non-canon sources - such as novels and comic books - will also be looked to for inspiration.
Every member of the team has to watch an entire series; some are reading the books.

Diplomacy:
A "vital part"; certainly something they're discussing.

Economy and crafting:
Trade will be flowing within the various factions and between them; the players will be "expediting this".
You will be competing for resources more than outright fighting other players for them.

Exploration and locations:
Space exploration takes place on different scales: Galaxy, sector and system.
On the galactic map, you can see what different sectors you can visit.
Upon selecting a sector, you will be taken to the sector map, where you will see a tactical overview of the sector, with information on the various systems you can visit. Click here for more details on this.
Once you have entered a particular system, you control your ship through 3D space from a third-person point of view.
Ship interiors will probably be limited to missions, at start, but hopefully at some point in time you'll be able to bring other players aboard to socialize with them.
The game takes place in outer space, onboard ships and planetside.
"Infinite exploration", with new worlds constantly being created by sophisticated software.
Technology and knowledge acquired through exploration will be "funneled back" to your faction. What faction benefits more from a civilization depends on how much "favor" they have with it.
Travel time will be "semi-realistic". There will be transwarp conduits and wormholes to help you traverse long distances faster.
You cannot enter warp at a whim within a star system; impulse is the norm. You can warp between planets within a system, however.
In the sector view, you will be able to choose a warp factor based on your Engineer's skills and the quality of your warp engines.
The environment will be built to encourage socialization; for instance, some travel routes will be better than others, thus increasing player density through those.
Many planetside environments will be instanced.
You can name stars and planets you discover.


TBC...

Fleets - the "guilds" of STO:
Within a fleet you can "pull your resources" to create various structures such as mining plants and space stations, enabling you to build better ships to "be handed out to the rest of the fleet".
"Some things can only be accomplished by a lot of people working together."
Although players in Fleets will likely end up establishing some sort of chain of command, there will probably not be game mechanics in place for ordering other players to perform certain tasks.
Fleets will have "basically any of the guild mechanics that you are used to".

Missions and events:
Missions in Star Trek Online will feature a mix of scripted and randomly generated content. These procedurally generated missions are "designed to take you to a number of widely differing environments during a single gameplay session."
You can do away missions with your NPC crewmembers or with other players. Your away team will consist of five characters (PCs or NPCs). The Captain is always a part of the away team.
You'll receive missions and instructions from central command.
Missions are "fully cooperative"; sometimes you'll have to team up with other players to accomplish your goals.
Select your away team well; you'll be able to make use of the different members' abilities to secure success.
There are "tours of duty", consisting of several missions.
There will be dynamic events (such as Borg invasions and the like) on top of pre-scripted missions.

Starships and crews:
You can keep your old ship when you get a new one. You can keep on upgrading one of your old ships to make it more powerful, but in the end higher-tier ships have greater potential.
You will be in control of your own starship, but you will not start out with the rank of Captain.
You will have a fully customizable and partially controllable Bridge Crew, similar to "pets" in many MMOGs.
You will also have tens, even hundreds of lower ranking officers; your "redshirts".
You will receive bonuses depending on your crewmembers' races/species.
Members of the alien races you encounter may join your crew.
You control how your NPCs progress.
No cooperative bridge play, at least not at launch.
While there probably won't be much conversation with your NPC crewmembers, they'll be the ones keeping you up to speed on what's going on around you.
You can transfer power between a ship's various systems, and do things like balance shield power.
There will probably not be a traditional "mana bar" that controls your base abilities (such as firing phasers and photon torpedoes), but rather a number of cool-down timers. More advanced abilities may have something like a mana bar associated with them.
There may be occasions when you can commandeer a ship of a different faction than your own, but you won't get to keep it.

PvP:
Yes; definitely.
Open PvP only in designated areas (both space and planetside). Consensual PvP in contested areas. Dev comment]
PvP is in-between the factions, but there may be wargames/dueling within factions.
The Federation-Klingon Neutral Zone will be "static", but areas near it will change affiliation depending on who's winning.

Corporate and technical:
No pricing decisions have been made as of March, 2009.
Atari aims to release the game during or prior to the first quarter of 2010.
This short development cycle is provided by Cryptic's experience and already existent game engine.
Game shouldn't be too demanding in terms of hardware.
CBS "has been great" working with Cryptic Studios.
Animation will be done manually, not using motion capture.
You wanna be a beta tester? You can't sign up for it yet, but you should join the forum; that's always where they go first!
The number of servers has not been decided, but they'd like to have just one big server.
This should be a game for "children of all ages", although Emmert stresses the importance of parental supervision for younglings.
LINUX and Mac? Not at launch!
The game is being developed for both PCs and consoles.
The development team will stay on after the game is launched, so as to guarantee that post-release content is of high quality.

Other:
With Starfleet, you start out with a ship of the Miranda configuration.
There will be some stealth abilities. Starfleet cloaking? Uncertain, but there will definitely be some stealth abilities.
There are plans to include content related to the Mirror Universe and Section 31.
There will be different types of tricorders, and how you can use them depends on you character's abilities.
Multi-Vector Assault Mode and saucer separation probably won't be in at launch.
Cryptic has been talking to a few "celebrities" , as well as with Bad Robot and IDW , although nothing further has been disclosed at this point.
There will be collision detection both on the ground and in space, although ships will not take damage from accidentally bumping into each other. There is, however, a ramming skill that you can choose; this allows you to do damage to another ship, and the ability to use self-destruct to deal damage.
There will be a tractor/repulsor beam that you can use. One use of this could be to repel ships that are about to explode, so as not to go down with them.
There will be a "Captain's Log" which contains a lot of info about what you've experienced in the game.
There will be "all sorts of medals and accolades that you can achieve by exploration."
It does not seem likely that Borg will be playable; definitely not at launch.
Holograms and changeling have been considered as possible crewmembers.
The rank of Admiral will be attainable.
There will probably be some sort of "raid" content, although in exactly what form is a bit uncertain.
There are some very big creatures on the ground, and even larger ones in space.



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This is all from the wonderful people over on the game's official forums, so credit goes to them...

I'm officially impressed.

Edit: This plus TOR might end the ban on MMOs.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
I'm officially impressed.

Edit: This plus TOR might end the ban on MMOs.
TOR? Ban?

The Old Republic., probably.

Also, i'm psyched abourt desiging my own bridge crew... that's gonna be sweet...

Originally posted by Robtard
TOR? Ban?
The Old Republic (looks amazing).

I've never played an MMO in my life.

Originally posted by Raoul
The Old Republic., probably.

Also, i'm psyched abourt desiging my own bridge crew... that's gonna be sweet...

Ah. That game does look good, might have to upgrade a comp so I can play it. Here's hoping it comes out on xbox too.

Yeah, make them all skimpy clad women.

Originally posted by Robtard
Ah. That game does look good, might have to upgrade a comp so I can play it. Here's hoping it comes out on xbox too.

Yeah, make them all skimpy clad women.

i know badabing wants a stripper pole on his bridge...

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Preliminary ships list:

FEDERATION:

STARGAZER CLASS (Path narrative, not sure what this looks like yet)
__________ CLASS (gameplay trailer, commonly referred to as "shovelhead"
__________ CLASS (gameplay trailer, commonly referred to as "peace sign"
__________ CLASS "NX-91001" (ships of the line)
__________ CLASS FIGHTER (gameplay trailer, possibly Peregrine Class)
__________ CLASS (FROM NYCC SCREEN SHOT)
MIRANDA CLASS (several screen shots and MSN video)
GALAXY CLASS (gameplay trailer)
CENTAUR CLASS (screen shot)
SABER CLASS (screen shot)
SOVEREIGN CLASS (gameplay trailer)
DEFIANT CLASS (dev mentioned)
NEBULA CLASS (dev mentioned)
PROMETHEUS CLASS (dev mentioned)
LUNA CLASS (path narrative)
OLYMPIC CLASS (path narrative)
AKIRA CLASS (screen shot)
INTREPID CLASS (dev mentioned, per ZInk 3/31 voon chat DEFINATELY IN!)
AMBASSADOR CLASS (gameplay trailer)
OSLO CLASS (ships of the line)
NORWAY CLASS (ships of the line narrative)
ZEPHYR CLASS (ships of the line narrative)
EXCALIBUR CLASS (ships of the line)
NOVA CLASS



KLINGON:

VOR'CHA CLASS (screen shots)
RAPTOR CLASS (ships of the line) (screen shot)
K'VORT/B'REL CLASS BIRD OF PREY (untill we are told otherwise) (screen shots)

__________ CLASS (ORION BATTLESHIP) (screen shot)




BORG: (NPC only)

CUBE (gameplay trailer)
SPHERE (gameplay trailer)



UNKNOWN FACTION SHIPS

ROMULAN D'DERIDEX CLASS (gamespot article)
ROMULAN BIRD OF PREY (22nd century) (gamespot article)
CARDASSIAN GROUMALL FREIGHTER (screen shot)
"GORN" SHIP (FROM NYCC SCREENSHOTS) (NOW POSSIBLY A ORION SHIP)
Type VII COMMERCIAL LABRATORY (ships of the Line)



again, credit goes to the guys on the Star Trek Online Forums...

This would be so cool...expecially if Q was involved.

<.< I want a damned Excalibur. Right now.

Originally posted by Kinneary
<.< I want a damned Excalibur. Right now.

Excalibur Class does look awesome, but the Khan!!!!!!!!!!!! in me wants a Miranda Class.

If they do decide to bring in the Defiant as a usual class, you know that 80% of the Fed people will be just that.

I plan to beat up on Raoul and Robtard in this game. sneer

Originally posted by Badabing
I plan to beat up on Raoul and Robtard in this game. sneer


It's officially on, Sir, the gauntlet has been thrown!

You won't be smiling whilst you're in the sickbay having the medic remove the photon torpedo I lodged in your colon.

and so it begins...

anyone planning on playing as a klingon? personally, i'll play as starfleet...

Originally posted by Robtard
It's officially on, Sir, the gauntlet has been thrown!

You won't be smiling whilst you're in the sickbay having the medic remove the photon torpedo I lodged in your colon. shocklaugh

Threaten my colon will you! madfist


Originally posted by Raoul


and so it begins...

anyone planning on playing as a klingon? personally, i'll play as starfleet... sneer

I'll probably go with Starfleet, at least at the beginning.

Probably best to start as Starfleet, as you're all familiar with the saying, 'once you go Klingon, you never go back.'

Though I'll probably do Klingon and make my entire crew females, those Klingon wenches all dress like whores.

http://media3.startrekonline.com.s3.amazonaws.com/img/misc/Chart-01.jpg

Refresh my memory, why did the Klingon Empire and Federation alliance go sour?

Originally posted by Robtard
I would guess for the PC version, but if you're already pay for Xbox online services ($50.00 a year), I'd assume there wouldn't be additional fees to play it on that console.

i don't know why they don't just do away with the pay-per-month and just release additional content that the players may want, that way you're not wasting your money, but the company is getting money still...

i hate PPM games...i mean, fair enough, it's for upkeep of the servers, but other companies manage to get away with upkeep of servers without asking players for they upkeep payment

Because that's not as financially advantageous as just charging you to play and not making new content.

I'm hoping they do it Guild Wars style and release an expansion every few months. Seems to work for them and I find it more appealing than paying per month AND buying expansions.

Originally posted by Robtard
Excalibur Class does look awesome, but the Khan!!!!!!!!!!!! in me wants a Miranda Class.

If they do decide to bring in the Defiant as a usual class, you know that 80% of the Fed people will be just that.

80% of the Feds would probably choose Defiants, but knowing the denizens of the STO boards, at least 70% of the whole population seem to go with Fed fleeters. So it could probably make up more than half the total player-controlled fleets of the game if this became true.

I'm active within a Romulan fleet (although I don't plan on getting the game) with the promise of players being able to make their own mods. I can even supply wireframes for the fleet "modders" to build on.

I wanted an Akira class ship.

I haven't really looked through the Klingon ships.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I wanted an Akira class ship.

I haven't really looked through the Klingon ships.

Akira-class (Tier-II) ships will be obtained earlier than Defiants (Tier-III)

Here's the "chain of command", with its associated tiers:

Tier-I player: Lieutenant
Tier-II player: Lieutenant Commander
Tier-III player: Commander
Tier-IV player: Captain
Tier-V player: Admiral

It's a bit ridiculous, I would have preferred Rear Admiral or Fleet Captain as far as tier-V players are concerned.

Even so, Tier-V players will have about half the possible skill points spent when they get to the promotion earning them the final tier of ships.

I just want to be the war monger ship.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I just want to be the war monger ship.

the what?

Originally posted by -Pr-
the what?
The one that blots out the sun with its torpedoes.

I know the federation doesn't want to designate ships as battleships but I want a federation battleship. But not a defiant. It was cool and all but I want something with more umph. That also looks cool.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
The one that blots out the sun with its torpedoes.

I know the federation doesn't want to designate ships as battleships but I want a federation battleship. But not a defiant. It was cool and all but I want something with more umph. That also looks cool.

you've lost me.

Originally posted by -Pr-
you've lost me.
What's to get lost on? Federation battleship, man! I want some guns! A bunch of them!

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
What's to get lost on? Federation battleship, man! I want some guns! A bunch of them!

i meant the sun-buster...

and several classes of federation starship can be outfitted for combat more than anything. the defiant, akira, sovereign, prometheus, etc...

Oh, that was a 300 reference where the guy says the army will blot out the sun with its arrows, and the army fires so many arrows that it blots out all the sunlight.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Oh, that was a 300 reference where the guy says the army will blot out the sun with its arrows, and the army fires so many arrows that it blots out all the sunlight.

oh.

They've set an "early 2010" release date, so it won't be all too long until I'm firing photon torpedoes up your b!tch asses, bitches.

Originally posted by Robtard
They've set an "early 2010" release date, so it won't be all too long until I'm firing photon torpedoes up your b!tch asses, bitches.



aye. and the closed beta is right around the corner, they said. has everyone applied?

i cannot wait to buy it

Got an email from Cryptic Studios:

"You can begin boldly going where no one has gone before on February 2, 2010, in North America, and February 5, 2010, in Europe."

Originally posted by Robtard
Got an email from Cryptic Studios:

"You can begin boldly going where no one has gone before on February 2, 2010, in North America, and February 5, 2010, in Europe."

SWEET!

Ive applied for beta testing and DEFIANT IS WiN SAUCE IN A KEG!!!
I would get that or a sovgrin class ship (cant rember if thats how you spell it)

Originally posted by Radnarock
Ive applied for beta testing and DEFIANT IS WiN SAUCE IN A KEG!!!
I would get that or a sovgrin class ship (cant rember if thats how you spell it)

I'd imagine a Defiant class would be pure win in a fight.

Does your crew die-off during a fight? If so, this would probably be it's balancing-point in the game, as the Defiant Class can only carry so few.

Well the SOVEREIGN CLASS is the uss enterprise and I think yea I might just go for that cuz it is POWERFULL!!

does anyone know if the game is a down load or do we have to buy it?

Originally posted by Radnarock
does anyone know if the game is a down load or do we have to buy it?

you can probably buy it through steam, but either way it's going to cost money afaik...

Depending on where you buy the game, it comes with different features.

Go to the bottom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Online

A 'Borg Bridge Officer' could be useful, but the "KHAAAN!" emote is hard to pass up.

the collectors edition is going to cost me a fortune, but i wants those ds9 uniforms, so...

ill probably pre-order at gamestop myself, due to not having access to most of the other stores...

Balls, seems the gaming-console aspect has been dropped. This sucks for me, as my laptop (comp with the best graphics card) isn't a great card for gaming, just okay, at best. I was planning on running it on my Xbox.

So either I won't get to fire photon torpedoes up all your asses, or it just won't look as good while I'm doing it

Originally posted by Robtard
Balls, seems the gaming-console aspect has been dropped. This sucks for me, as my laptop (comp with the best graphics card) isn't a great card for gaming, just okay, at best. I was planning on running it on my Xbox.

So either I won't get to fire photon torpedoes up all your asses, or it just won't look as good while I'm doing it

what specs do you have?

owwww damnit. UK get the shit exclusive content...ball sacks

might have to go for the international special collector's edition then...

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
owwww damnit. UK get the shit exclusive content...ball sacks

might have to go for the international special collector's edition then...


Amazon.co.uk Pre-Order Perk, Borg Bridge Officer

Thats the best one IMO.

Originally posted by -Pr-
what specs do you have?

Dual Core 2.0mhz, will have 4gb of ram by next week. Installed Win7 Ultimate. Graphics card is an Nvidia Quadro FX 570M, basically a business-spec Nvidia Geforce 8600M-GT, with 256mb. I have the latest driver, so it should handle games in theory, just might need to overclock it, to get the FPS at some decent level for gaming.

Could get the FX 770m card, which would give me 512mb of ram and a slight increase in clock-speed, but that's at least $220.00, not sure I want to invest that just for Star Trek Online (or do I?), when I'm not 100% sure it will handle gaming, considering what these card are built for.

It's a decent comp overall, as it was around $2,200.00 when new a couple years ago and I got it for free. Just a business PC though. Mine does show a Gaming Graphic Index rating of 6.2, I suspect because I have the newest driver, came out this last December.

Originally posted by The Nuul
Amazon.co.uk Pre-Order Perk, Borg Bridge Officer

Thats the best one IMO.

I agree it is, if the Borg comes with all the awesome goodness a Borg drone should give. But I have a feeling it's just for looks and the Borg won't do anything special above and beyond your other crew.

Originally posted by Robtard
Dual Core 2.0mhz, will have 4gb of ram by next week. Installed Win7 Ultimate. Graphics card is an Nvidia Quadro FX 570M, basically a business-spec Nvidia Geforce 8600M-GT, with 256mb. I have the latest driver, so it should handle games in theory, just might need to overclock it, to get the FPS at some decent level for gaming.

Could get the FX 770m card, which would give me 512mb of ram and a slight increase in clock-speed, but that's at least $220.00, not sure I want to invest that just for Star Trek Online (or do I?), when I'm not 100% sure it will handle gaming, considering what these card are built for.

It's a decent comp overall, as it was around $2,200.00 when new a couple years ago and I got it for free. Just a business PC though. Mine does show a Gaming Graphic Index rating of 6.2, I suspect because I have the newest driver, came out this last December.

sounds a lot like mine, tbh. im sure on lower settings you'll run it, as i was able to cn champions online, which has similar specs...

Originally posted by -Pr-
sounds a lot like mine, tbh. im sure on lower settings you'll run it, as i was able to cn champions online, which has similar specs...

Ah, good to hear. I've also been reading up on the card this last hour, people have played Half Life2, GTAIV and even Crysis on this card, with little to no overclocking, just by (as you said) lowering the games video output (which kinda sucks for me, as I like the eye candy).

Edit: These are the min and max requirements for the game: "Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850+". So it looks for certain I'll be able to play and play with some of the eye-candy too. Sweet!

How is Champions Online BTW? I was tempted to get it, but passed. As I did the City of Heroes thing years ago.

Newest ST tralier: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/startrekonline/video/6244194/star-trek-online-veil-of-space-part-1

Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, good to hear. I've also been reading up on the card this last hour, people have played Half Life2, GTAIV and even Crysis on this card, with little to no overclocking, just by (as you said) lowering the games video output (which kinda sucks for me, as I like the eye candy).

Edit: These are the min and max requirements for the game: "Video: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics - NVIDIA GeForce 8800 / ATI Radeon HD 3850+". So it looks for certain I'll be able to play and play with some of the eye-candy too. Sweet!

How is Champions Online BTW? I was tempted to get it, but passed. As I did the City of Heroes thing years ago.

Newest ST tralier: http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/startrekonline/video/6244194/star-trek-online-veil-of-space-part-1

if you're in to that sort of thing, it's quite enjoyable. you can even download a free trial and give it a go. i recommend giving it a look.

Originally posted by -Pr-
if you're in to that sort of thing, it's quite enjoyable. you can even download a free trial and give it a go. i recommend giving it a look.

Shit, didn't know. Think I'll do that to benchmark my graphics card (and to be a hero again). Thanks for the tip.

Originally posted by Robtard
Shit, didn't know. Think I'll do that to benchmark my graphics card (and to be a hero again). Thanks for the tip.

np. it only came out a week or two ago, and someone else had clued me in to it. aint a bad game...

Originally posted by Robtard
I agree it is, if the Borg comes with all the awesome goodness a Borg drone should give. But I have a feeling it's just for looks and the Borg won't do anything special above and beyond your other crew.

Aye.

Originally posted by -Pr-
np. it only came out a week or two ago, and someone else had clued me in to it. aint a bad game...

Tried out Champions, played alright on my comp, so ST should be okay too, especially after my RAM upgrade. Champions seems like a fun game, but it reminded me too much of City of Heroes and I already played that.

the open beta for this is up, but i can't find anywhere that has any keys left...

I played this at work already, its ok...boring IMO.

boring how?

i watched some gameplay videos and it doesnt look half bad to me.

Got to play the beta.

First impressions are very good. Customisation is fun, with plenty of options, and even uniform choices.

The game itself isn't bad either. Ground combat isnt bad, and fighting some malfunctioning borg is kinda cool. Plus, phaser beams hit them in the shoulder a lot (which, if you recall, happened all the time in the shows/movies).

Space combat is VERY like Starfleet Command 3, but it's not on one plane, which is great. You can dive, ascend, all that stuff.

The graphics themselves aren't bad, and the sound effects are pretty nice, very trek-like.

one last thing i will say is that definitely does "feel" like star trek. they managed to bring that to the game, so it doesnt just feel like some crappy mmo with a star trek skin. it's a proper star trek mmo.

looking good so far.

unfortunately, though, i won't be able to get the game, as my pc could barely run it (even on low settings). that's what i get for having a 256mb graphics card and beaming down to a planet with about a hundred other people.

So Champions online played fine, yet Star Trek didn't on the same 256mb GPU?

If so, sucks for me too, as I only have a 256mb card and upgrading it is out of the question, found a decent 512mb Geforce with DDR3 on Ebay, but ****ing HP has white-list on their systems so you can only install hardware they deem.

Edit: Actually, looking at system requirements, I should be okay in theory, I'm somewhere between the min and recommended specs.

I think I am going to be a Klingon. I've always liked the idea of having a kick ass ship that no one can see until the first torp hits them and nearly busts their hulls open.

Originally posted by Robtard
So Champions online played fine, yet Star Trek didn't on the same 256mb GPU?

If so, sucks for me too, as I only have a 256mb card and upgrading it is out of the question, found a decent 512mb Geforce with DDR3 on Ebay, but ****ing HP has white-list on their systems so you can only install hardware they deem.

Edit: Actually, looking at system requirements, I should be okay in theory, I'm somewhere between the min and recommended specs.

the start of the game was fine. the space combat was fine. fine, as in, a bit laggy, but playable. then, once i finished the space mission (which was enjoyable as hell fighting the borg in a miranda class starship), i beamed down to a planet.

so had about a hundred other people. my net connection is pretty fast, which means it was my pc. i have a dual core 2.4 and 4gb of ram, and plenty of hard drive space. that leaves my 256mb gpu.

Originally posted by -Pr-
the start of the game was fine. the space combat was fine. fine, as in, a bit laggy, but playable. then, once i finished the space mission (which was enjoyable as hell fighting the borg in a miranda class starship), i beamed down to a planet.

so had about a hundred other people. my net connection is pretty fast, which means it was my pc. i have a dual core 2.4 and 4gb of ram, and plenty of hard drive space. that leaves my 256mb gpu.

Yeah, I looked up the wrong info on the card specs, my card is under the min required and my system (as you noted before) is very similar to yours, so I'd be in the same position. Blows. I've done the Champions demo on mid-range settings without a problem though. Game looks good.

Depending on where you look online, STO is supposed to come out for Xbox360 sometime in 2010 or not at all. I'm hoping it does, cuz I really don't want to buy or build a comp just to play this game and it does sound like fun,figthing the Borg.

Champions (which I'll buy for the Xbox, love the character creation aspect alone) is still set to be released for the Xbox; soon too. If it does, there's a good chance STO will follow, being both from Cryptic.

Maaan, I want to play the beta!

Originally posted by Robtard
Yeah, I looked up the wrong info on the card specs, my card is under the min required and my system (as you noted before) is very similar to yours, so I'd be in the same position. Blows. I've done the Champions demo on mid-range settings without a problem though. Game looks good.

Depending on where you look online, STO is supposed to come out for Xbox360 sometime in 2010 or not at all. I'm hoping it does, cuz I really don't want to buy or build a comp just to play this game and it does sound like fun,figthing the Borg.

Champions (which I'll buy for the Xbox, love the character creation aspect alone) is still set to be released for the Xbox; soon too. If it does, there's a good chance STO will follow, being both from Cryptic.

xbox would be pretty cool. here's hoping.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Maaan, I want to play the beta!

im sure keys will be more easily available as time goes on...

No! Now!

Comes out tomorrow, if anyone gets it, please post about your thoughts. Not going to get this until I can try out a demo first.

Hoping it comes out for the 360, otherwise I won't be able to play it.

Been reading reviews online, people seem to love the space aspect/battles part of the game, but the beaming down for away missions is "repetative/boring".

Hopefully they'll fix that with updates, if not, there's always Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO coming out next spring.

So now that the game is out and available, has anyone been playing it?

Nope.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So now that the game is out and available, has anyone been playing it?

I'm waiting for the free-trial first. Hoping they do a 10-day ro something like that.

If it's good and my comp can handle, I'll buy it.

I played a trial of it. The space combat was pretty fun but the ground stuff was lame.

The developers have made a basic mistake from the ground upwards.

Trying to do an MMO set over the entirity of the Trek experience does not work. It's a similar mistake that Galaxies made- the Rebellion is actually a rubbish time to set an MMO. TOR is a much better era.

The problem is that there is so much more to Trek than... blowing up ships and grinding for stuff. In a few missions in this, you destroy more Klingons than Kirk did in his lifetime. It doesn't feel like being in Starfleet at all- there are thousands of Captains but no-one who reports to them, breaking the command structure, and there's not much more to the game than the endless killing. You cannot do that with Trek and expect it to work- you cannot go for the whole deal, set over most the quadrant, and then make it like WoW, with your ship as your mount, tacked on ground sequences and clearly insufficient development time re: other races (another issue- MMOs have to stop launching unfinished).

On the assumption that it is not yet possible to have a game that gneuinely includes all the exploration, ethical and diplomatic facets of Trek, they should have aimed lower- made the game set in one sector disputed by many races. Then it could have been a combat game and not broke the Trek atmosphere (though without you destroying dozens of ships a day), and they could have gone into far more detail about everything in it. A sector- or perhaps set of sectors- in a Galaxy is more room than an MMO needs, and Trek deserves the detail.

All you get for shooting as big as they have done is lots of things that will not satisfy. Nothing will ever be detailed enough. Nothing will ever be involving enough. Nothing will ever be good enough.

Make something smaller that works- not something big that does not. Only the Trek name will keep this afloat.

Does anyone actually play this? I'll be putting up a detailed review/summary soon, recommending the game as I believe it's well worth the effort.

I play it. Pretty damn good, only problem I found with it is the same problem with any MMORPG. The limitation on mission/quest variety. Still enjoy it though lol.

Tried the demo, I didn't care for it.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I play it. Pretty damn good, only problem I found with it is the same problem with any MMORPG. The limitation on mission/quest variety. Still enjoy it though lol.

want to add me?

Originally posted by Robtard
Tried the demo, I didn't care for it.

the sad thing is that the demo leaves a LOT of the actual game content out, to the extent that they're actually working on a new demo to show people more of what they can expect from the game.

Originally posted by -Pr-

the sad thing is that the demo leaves a LOT of the actual game content out, to the extent that they're actually working on a new demo to show people more of what they can expect from the game.

I'll try that one then too.

Yeah, I played the demo first and it doesn't do the game justice. IMO of course


What's your addy? PM me

Originally posted by Robtard
I'll try that one then too.

good stuff.

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Yeah, I played the demo first and it doesn't do the game justice. IMO of course


What's your addy? PM me

sent.

Originally posted by -Pr-
good stuff.



sent.

Got the invite...really long reply - sorry for that lol. Been playing more recently, managed to up my level to Captain from a long winded Commander...

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
Got the invite...really long reply - sorry for that lol. Been playing more recently, managed to up my level to Captain from a long winded Commander...

ill be sure to check.

ATM im saving my emblems/marks to get a nebula class t5...

can you play this on a laptop or is a desktop preferred?

Originally posted by -Pr-
ill be sure to check.

ATM im saving my emblems/marks to get a nebula class t5...

I'm a Tactical officer so I'll be saving up for the Defiant =) yummy...

Can you mix and match the T5 ship-retrofits like you can with the standard Tier ships? Because I've got a pretty good thing going atm with my Valiant hull and everything else Defiant, so it looks like an elongated Defiant - I wanna try and retain that on my T5 ship is possible

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
can you play this on a laptop or is a desktop preferred?
Honestly I think it all depends on how well your laptop runs other games on high quality settings, and what type of laptop it is - e.g. Integrated Graphics or a Chip Set.

The one thing I can think of that might cause issues for a integrated GC laptop is the huge amount of space in free-roam areas. Because there's so much and the shadowing is shown on everything, it could cause lagging issues...but otherwise there's a trial version of the game on Steam you could use to see how well the game runs - without forking out and realising the game doesn't work...

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
I'm a Tactical officer so I'll be saving up for the Defiant =) yummy...

Can you mix and match the T5 ship-retrofits like you can with the standard Tier ships? Because I've got a pretty good thing going atm with my Valiant hull and everything else Defiant, so it looks like an elongated Defiant - I wanna try and retain that on my T5 ship is possible


Honestly I think it all depends on how well your laptop runs other games on high quality settings, and what type of laptop it is - e.g. Integrated Graphics or a Chip Set.

The one thing I can think of that might cause issues for a integrated GC laptop is the huge amount of space in free-roam areas. Because there's so much and the shadowing is shown on everything, it could cause lagging issues...but otherwise there's a trial version of the game on Steam you could use to see how well the game runs - without forking out and realising the game doesn't work...

if the t-5 has a variant (i have a galaxy-r, but have access to celestial parts), then yes, you can.

did you not use your VA token to get your defiant?

i go by this, btw:

http://www.stowiki.org/images/2/26/SpidermitchFEDShipChart.jpg

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
can you play this on a laptop or is a desktop preferred?

i actually play the game on a laptop. i don't have max settings, but like cado said, if it has a dedicated rather than integrated graphics card, you should be fine.

I run on an i3 1.7 ghz, 4gb of ram and a 512mb nvidia graphics card.

as he also said, though, try the demo just in case.

just dont be put off by the lack of content in the demo; there's lots more in the game itself.

thanks guys i'll give it a try

out of curiosity, is there a thread for Champions Online? Just started playing since it turned F2P...

Originally posted by CadoAngelus
out of curiosity, is there a thread for Champions Online? Just started playing since it turned F2P...

its in the comic books forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t544880.html

Originally posted by -Pr-
its in the comic books forum.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t544880.html

I suppose that makes logical sense lol. Cheers

Any TOS fans out there, they just added some brand new stuff to the game that will interest you:

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I wasn't even going to buy it, but then I saw the video. Walking around the ship is INSANE. It actually feels like you're on the original Enterprise.

Might want to wait a bit, Champions Online just become free-to-play, maybe STO will too.

Clip was cool though.

It's actually making a lot of money for Atari and for Cryptic. The chances of it going free to play any time soon are quite slim. I'm sure it'll happen eventually, but the subscriber base does seem to be growing, so I don't know...

I admit to being a huge fan of Star Trek, but sadly i had no way of paying the fees. Recently i noticed the game is going free!. So i have joined only 4 days ago so i wont have to pay monthly for long since i get 30 days free. I am very impressed with the game. Maybe that's because i just joined. The content seems rich and varied and true to the Star Trek universe. I was playing the featured episodes, and i was so excited when while in an arena on the ground fighting with melee weapons and the original series music started playing. I gotta say i wish i could have afforded it from the get go, however from following it from the beginning i am probably lucky to not have run out of new content, as was the initial complaints. I am only a Lt Commander, but i plan oj playing allot. Any body still playing this game?

It goes free on January 17th, just so you know, and I hope you like it (coliseum is a good mission, and i had the same reaction you did. you should try the devidian missions, you go back in time to the tos era during them). There are some big changes coming, some of which I'm very enthusiastic about.

I play it (i'm actually a subscriber). The next featured episode takes place around DS9; supposedly it's to do with the dominion fleet that disappeared in the wormhole coming back in to existence, so it'll be interesting to see. The episodes are supposed to start in december or january.

So far i do like it allot, they really did the space battles and ground battles good. Even the shooter mode is an advantage and shows the game is listening to its fans...who apparently been paying since day one. I have finished the 3 episodes that are featured, i had so much fun i stayed up for almost 2 days straight lol.

Originally posted by starlock
So far i do like it allot, they really did the space battles and ground battles good. Even the shooter mode is an advantage and shows the game is listening to its fans...who apparently been paying since day one. I have finished the 3 episodes that are featured, i had so much fun i stayed up for almost 2 days straight lol.

lol, glad you liked it. are you playing on tribble or holodeck?

I am guessing holodeck, since i am not sure exactly what tribble is. I do know that is where they are testing the F2P. I am on default settings i guess. What and where is tribble, does it involve picking a server or something? or entering a section of space?. I never notice a option for severs or anything.

you go to the home page, then under the support menu, click "public test". then you choose the character you want to copy (yes, copy, as it will have absolutely zero bearing on your main account). once you're done, and you boot up the launcher, you should see two options at the bottom, one for holodeck and one for tribble. tribble might need you to dl some extra bits (like the duty officer system for example), but once you're done you can go in.

that should be it...

Building myself a proper computer in the next 3-4 weeks, intend on trying SWTOR. If it blows, I may just try Star Trek for a few months.

I don't expect TOR to be any good for at least a year.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't expect TOR to be any good for at least a year.

Why do you think that?

Originally posted by Robtard
Why do you think that?

Just generally how MMOs tend to operate. WoW, STO, DCUO; they all tend to take a while to get some stability, and enough content to keep people happy for the most part.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Just generally how MMOs tend to operate. WoW, STO, DCUO; they all tend to take a while to get some stability, and enough content to keep people happy for the most part.

Fair enough. I've only really played 3 MMOs (WoW, CoH and CO), I thought they were all better earlier in. Once they started to modify powers to balance PvP, they just ****ed it up more and more. More so with CoH and CO.

Rob, CoH is now free!

Originally posted by The Nuul
Rob, CoH is now free!

Ah thanks; I've not played in 5 years though. Don't think I want to get back into it.

Having a blast so far, made it up to Commander 4. The Akira class has always been a favorite of mine, though i seem to do good inmissions etc, the better ships i get, the worse i do in Borg alerts lol.

Originally posted by starlock
Having a blast so far, made it up to Commander 4. The Akira class has always been a favorite of mine, though i seem to do good inmissions etc, the better ships i get, the worse i do in Borg alerts lol.

Honestly, you should wait until Captain to fight the Borg; until then it's just too hard without the amount of bridge officer skills.

Have you at least been speccing to fight the Borg? Using Hazard Emitters and Tactical Team and such?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Honestly, you should wait until Captain to fight the Borg; until then it's just too hard without the amount of bridge officer skills.

Have you at least been speccing to fight the Borg? Using Hazard Emitters and Tactical Team and such?

Trying to, but it is fun anyway, with a cool group of people i have been able to complete it, first stage..pretty easy..but the second,,wow that huge Borg ship and its probes usually does me in. The skill bonus is worth it though, so i go for it every time hehe. Captain huh, what ship do you recommend?. I am a tactical officer and love the Defiant, so that will probably be my choice, in the best interest of succeeding what do you think?

Originally posted by starlock
Trying to, but it is fun anyway, with a cool group of people i have been able to complete it, first stage..pretty easy..but the second,,wow that huge Borg ship and its probes usually does me in. The skill bonus is worth it though, so i go for it every time hehe. Captain huh, what ship do you recommend?. I am a tactical officer and love the Defiant, so that will probably be my choice, in the best interest of succeeding what do you think?

It really depends on your playstyle. If you're a Tactical Captain in a Defiant, you're going to do a lot of damage, but you'll be the equivalent of a glass cannon, and can die very easily. If you pick up the Galaxy Class, you will do less damage, but you'll survive longer in a fire-fight, and you get the bonus of having an extra weapon slot in the rear of your ship. You will die less, but fights will last longer as a result. You could always go science, but you'd only have slightly more survivability in terms of damage you can take, but you can do some nice tricks offensively.

As long as you can fulfill your role, you will succeed in PVE, and even against the Borg. I prefer to play as a TAC in a Cruiser, but on Tribble I've been using a TAC in an Escort, and as long as I didn't charge in first and let the tanks do their job, success was never hard to come by.

Gotcha, thanks for the advice, i cant wait till i am Captain!

Np. I know a lot of people like to cross-specialise too, so don't rule it out. Because you get captain powers AND bridge officer powers, a tactical captain in a cruiser might not be as tanky as an engineer in a cruiser, but he'd last longer than he would in an escort, and would do more damage than an engineer would, etc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Np. I know a lot of people like to cross-specialise too, so don't rule it out. Because you get captain powers AND bridge officer powers, a tactical captain in a cruiser might not be as tanky as an engineer in a cruiser, but he'd last longer than he would in an escort, and would do more damage than an engineer would, etc.

Yeah, i am going to stick with Tactical ships as my choice of ship to pick for free, then i will spend energy stuff for maybe a Galaxy class or bigger ships with greater hull etc. All i need is about 1200 skill points to Captain!

Originally posted by starlock
Yeah, i am going to stick with Tactical ships as my choice of ship to pick for free, then i will spend energy stuff for maybe a Galaxy class or bigger ships with greater hull etc. All i need is about 1200 skill points to Captain!

Nice. Just make sure that (if you dont know this already), to go with dual heavy cannons as opposed to dual cannons. They pack more of a punch in terms of dps and alpha damage.

Assuming you're going to use cannons in the defiant, i mean.

I can't wait til we get the new defiant quad cannons.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nice. Just make sure that (if you dont know this already), to go with dual heavy cannons as opposed to dual cannons. They pack more of a punch in terms of dps and alpha damage.

Assuming you're going to use cannons in the defiant, i mean.

I can't wait til we get the new defiant quad cannons.


I do not see, or have not found " Heavy dual cannons"...are they a reward for a mission?

So i picked the Defiant...and bought the Galaxy class. Going to play around with both.

I think the game is great like i have said, though some things i wish were improved. Playing a Federation mission, i had to pilot a Klingon ship, anyway the cut-scenes for the mission were amazing. Showing me at the helm of the Captains chair, the cut-scenes were amazing, though why do they not do that more often and while i am in my own ship?. I guess they cant figure out what ship we are in, but it was done so well i just want more of it. They should fix the hard-points and the size of the phaser beam from the shuttles, it looks ridiculous lol. That is me nit picking, but i gotta say, ground missions and space battles, exploration etc, they really made a game that will not make me feel so repetitive.

What i did not know was that you can repeat missions..and that the rewards scale up to your level!. I was running around with gear from 2 ranks ago.

Come to think of it, i was disappointed that you need to be with a certain number of people to form a fleet. that just seems wrong, it is hard enough for me to get anybody to let me join or invite me in a group, let alone be with up to five and one of us has to go to a fleet officer. Are you a leader of a fleet? or are you in a fleet at all?

You can craft them in memory alpha or buy them on the exchange (and making energy credits is surprisingly easy).

That's the Doomsday Device. Basically that's what we call a "remastered mission". The old version is like a lot of the others, but a while back they started redoing some missions with the new tech to make them better. have you played the one with the vulcan ambassador on p'jem?

lol yeah, the shuttles thing is an issue.

They're even planning to scale up the rewards for those pesky patrol missions, so that from now on any mission you play will scale up with you. im loving this change.

I have a fleet, it's called Federation Reborn. I can invite you if you send me your ingame handle.

AddictionMaster.....is my handle....but i did not download the test version to play on Tribble..i cant afford another 10 gigs of space lol,.

I happen to find Duel Heavy Cannons as loot..so it worked out.

Playing with the Galaxy class ship, makes me really want to make a engineer, i feel like i am missing out since the bonuses would be sick.. However i loved the Akira and of course the defiant so it fits like a glove and i see what you meant about the differences. I do not like any of the Escorts coming up when i advance rank....i hate 4 nacelle ships and i think all 3 versions have them!, so i guess i will have to go with the Sovereign... maybe i am being silly, when i hit maximum rank, i will make an engineer next i think hehe.

Originally posted by starlock
AddictionMaster.....is my handle....but i did not download the test version to play on Tribble..i cant afford another 10 gigs of space lol,.

I happen to find Duel Heavy Cannons as loot..so it worked out.

Playing with the Galaxy class ship, makes me really want to make a engineer, i feel like i am missing out since the bonuses would be sick.. However i loved the Akira and of course the defiant so it fits like a glove and i see what you meant about the differences. I do not like any of the Escorts coming up when i advance rank....i hate 4 nacelle ships and i think all 3 versions have them!, so i guess i will have to go with the Sovereign... maybe i am being silly, when i hit maximum rank, i will make an engineer next i think hehe.

what's your account? like, for example, my toon (one of them) is Paul@pr1983.

Nice. With Cannon Rapid-Fire they're pretty sweet.

I actually fly a Sovereign with my main toon, as the extra tactical slot is pretty handy.

Engineers get some awesome powers like Miracle Worker (Massive heal), and you can train Emergency Power to Shields III to your officers, which is the daddy of enemy damage reduction powers.

What powers are you using right now?

Not sure actually lol. Toon?...i guess that is the character..

My character is my full name, Joseph F.Ulses my account name is AddictionMaster. I keep naming ships based on characters from a book i have coming out The Mushroom King. I have been joining everything and spreading the word to create buzz. The defiant i am in is called U.S.S Mushroom King..I hope with that info you can figure out how to find me lol

Cannon rapid fire, beam fire at will, high yield torpedo, torpedo spread..tactical team..all the best tactical skills for offense..for engineering i went with power to weapons and reverse polarity...science...science team and scramble senses.
Basically i keep 2 of each division of officers and keep one geared for escort and one for cruiser....so i switch up my officers when i get in galaxy..then with added engineering i go with the norm. When in defiant i go for sheer power..nothing like destroying enemy after enemy on the first pass, and with its maneuverability i do great in missions...it is only the Borg and such where you have to be smart and know your role, its funny how it can be destroyed in a split second, glass cannon indeed, but i love it so much lol.

I don't plan on making a science officer until my third character, but i am intrigued by all the abilities they have also.

I made Rear Admiral, Lower Half (God i hate that name, seeing it in dialog makes my stomach turn lol) I was happy to find they make a escort mixed with a cruiser...so that's what i picked. I think I am.... [email protected] that helps.

I am still enjoying the game immensely, i could nitpick thing more as i play. However I am still thrilled at certain points. Starting to get a better understanding of the powers and abilities also.

ill try to add you today.

powers looks good, though you should have "emergency power to shields" for damage negation if you don't already, imo. science team is one of the handiest powers in the game; it clears so many debuffs, and is the #1 power against the breen imo, as it counters their Subnucleonic Beam.

If you did the Doomsday mission, did you not get the Har'Peng torpedo? If you have it, it doesn't work with High Yield, so you don't need that power (and the torpedo is plenty powerful without it anyway).

For the Borg, don't concentrate on shield powers, as the Borg are cheap f*cks who will drain them anyway. The main powers for the Borg are Hazard Emitters (hull heal), Polarise Hull (Hull resistance), and Tactical Team (clears assimilate ship power). Maybe an Auxiliary to SIF too. At least that's what I use.

Yes i use emergency power to shields, i switch my engineers every so often to test new things, though i am a traditionalist and do not mix weapons systems, to me it is not star trek if i am using other species weapons. It is funny i can not bring myself to use anything other than what a federation ship would use. For some reason even though i know something is more powerful i wont use it lol. I do great on every type of mission, it is only the borg events i have a problem with, however after taking your advice and playing to my strengths, i let the tanks go in first and support them as i come in behind them. I do much better now to be honest, so the advice was a wake up call, i went and read every manual, tips etc, so i can understand how all the skills and powers work and effect each other. I have not been p0laying long as my post can show, i was just having so much fun, even when getting destroyed.

Originally posted by starlock
Yes i use emergency power to shields, i switch my engineers every so often to test new things, though i am a traditionalist and do not mix weapons systems, to me it is not star trek if i am using other species weapons. It is funny i can not bring myself to use anything other than what a federation ship would use. For some reason even though i know something is more powerful i wont use it lol. I do great on every type of mission, it is only the borg events i have a problem with, however after taking your advice and playing to my strengths, i let the tanks go in first and support them as i come in behind them. I do much better now to be honest, so the advice was a wake up call, i went and read every manual, tips etc, so i can understand how all the skills and powers work and effect each other. I have not been p0laying long as my post can show, i was just having so much fun, even when getting destroyed.

I'm glad you're enjoying it. When you see the kind of changes coming to Holodeck I'm sure you'll love them too, particularly the events and the Duty Officer system.

I was so surprised to see you can make your own adventures and share them, what a smart thing to have, now i am playing with making my own adventure

Edit...Have you made any?

Originally posted by starlock
I was so surprised to see you can make your own adventures and share them, what a smart thing to have, now i am playing with making my own adventure

Edit...Have you made any?

The Foundry is pretty sweet, I agree.

I've dabbled, but never published anything. I am working on a script for a story, though.

Getting close to Vice Admiral, now i see i want the retrofit Defiant. What is the best way to earn marks of exploration?...i have only noticed 1 mission for -Charting an area, which gets you 5 marks...will more open up, or am i missing something?

Originally posted by starlock
Getting close to Vice Admiral, now i see i want the retrofit Defiant. What is the best way to earn marks of exploration?...i have only noticed 1 mission for -Charting an area, which gets you 5 marks...will more open up, or am i missing something?

That's literally the only way in the game to get them directly. I "think" if you get Marks of Honor, you can convert those to Marks of Exploration too. Emblems too, though it has been a while since i did such a thing.

btw, this might interest you:

http://startrekonline.com/node/2695

Originally posted by -Pr-
That's literally the only way in the game to get them directly. I "think" if you get Marks of Honor, you can convert those to Marks of Exploration too. Emblems too, though it has been a while since i did such a thing.

btw, this might interest you:

http://startrekonline.com/node/2695


Those changes really sound great.

And all this goes live today (dec 1st):

http://startrekonline.com/node/2699

I'm glad this game is going F2P - I know a few people are unhappy with the restrictions Gold members will have.

But I was paying for subscription for 2years and barely playing it, so I had to unsubscribe. I reached Captain - upper levels - but just had to quit for monetary reasons.

Anybody still subscribing, if you log in during december you can get two free c-store ships. fed players can claim an account wide unlock of original constitution class enterprise, and klingons can claim one of the new raptors. seriously, CLAIM THEM.

Yeah i claimed mine, but i am pissed!

It seems i can not get any of the retrofit defiants, without spending cash on C-points. What is the deal, i thought when i hit Vice Admiral i would get to pick one?

I was really looking forward to using a defiant again, i almost took my original one out. Did something change with this update?

Originally posted by starlock
Yeah i claimed mine, but i am pissed!

It seems i can not get any of the retrofit defiants, without spending cash on C-points. What is the deal, i thought when i hit Vice Admiral i would get to pick one?

I was really looking forward to using a defiant again, i almost took my original one out. Did something change with this update?

They did change it as of december first, yes (its a f2p change). To get one of the retrofits now, you can either:

1. Buy it in the c-store with straight up cash.
2. Wait until your stipend of points (which starts in december) reaches the required amount, then buy it.
3. Get your hands on as much dilithium as possible, and trade it for c-points.
4. The most likely, a combination of 2 and 3.
5. Wait until you've been subscribed for 600 days, at which point any characters you have that don't have a VA ship will get a free token to buy one (that includes characters that aren't made yet, iirc).

Thanks, i have to say this was a big let down. Maybe i am tired and cranky, but i am really pissed. i can buy maybe 40 c-points, and i have 500 from when i started 3 weeks ago. So i wont be getting it soon. Funny thing is my subscription starts in a couple of days since i had 30 days free, i was going to try and pay until it went free and possibly beyond. Now i just wanna turn it off. So if i would have made Vice Admiral before this change, i would have gotten it, i could smash something right now.

Let's see; you've got 500 points, right? In december you'll get 400 from your stipend, taking you to 900. the defiant is currently 1200. so you can either grind the last 300 with dilithium (which in fairness is doable), or wait til january, get your stipend, and be good to go.

I know it can be maddening, but it is possible

i actually own the defiant retrofit myself (i paid cash a while back). TBH i love the ship, and with the new quad cannons available with the other one, and the new defiant interior on the way, i seriously am going to love it even more.

plus, it has le cloak.

When does the stipend come into play? when they charge me the first time?

I am going to want the Retrofit with the higher hull first, i think that will have the cloak. The new one is available at a lesser rank, and it has quad cannons, it also has lesser hull. i will guess you have to get both to put the quad cannons on the one with the better hull lol.

KhaaaaaaanN!...i just had to let that out

Originally posted by starlock
When does the stipend come into play? when they charge me the first time?

I am going to want the Retrofit with the higher hull first, i think that will have the cloak. The new one is available at a lesser rank, and it has quad cannons, it also has lesser hull. i will guess you have to get both to put the quad cannons on the one with the better hull lol.

KhaaaaaaanN!...i just had to let that out

yeah. your billing date is your stipend date, afaik.

mine is the 13th, so waiting to see.

yeah, that's true. at least the lower level one is 800 points; that's doable.

Well lets say i spend the money to get 1000 points, when i get the stipend..i only need 100 more for the other defiant. I still did not want to spend money on the game, since i am paying monthly. However at Vice Admiral my Tactical officer needs his Defiant badly. Now i just need to redo certain missions to get some gear for my new level.

For some reason i cannot turn in Infected mission, it is checked off, but it wont let me turn it in. I did notice the check is white...not green. any ideas?

Originally posted by starlock
Well lets say i spend the money to get 1000 points, when i get the stipend..i only need 100 more for the other defiant. I still did not want to spend money on the game, since i am paying monthly. However at Vice Admiral my Tactical officer needs his Defiant badly. Now i just need to redo certain missions to get some gear for my new level.

For some reason i cannot turn in Infected mission, it is checked off, but it wont let me turn it in. I did notice the check is white...not green. any ideas?

You finished the mission? Completed all the objectives?

Wait, Infected? You did that solo?