Oblivion vs Abraxas vs Entropy

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guy222
stick out tongue

Enyalus
Abraxas.



But as one of the Seven Friendless, Entropy should be above them. He just hasn't shown it.

guy222
Do u think Oblivion will have a good showing soon

Enyalus
Originally posted by guy222
Do u think Oblivion will have a good showing soon
I don't think Oblivion will be featured at all. sad

His most recent mention was GOTG with Maelstrom and the Q-bands, right?

I think he's a cool cosmic character. I think they should use him again. But I'm kind of worried about if they do. 'Cause I want him done right, and it doesn't seem like Marvel is capable of that right now. lol

Count Abyss is another awesome dude they need to bring back...

guy222
they should

rotiart
Ohhhhhhh oblivion from marvel and not DC oblivion .....

I'll to with abraxas...

guy222
Marvel

And the Lakers won stick out tongue

xJLxKing
Originally posted by guy222
Marvel

And the Lakers won stick out tongue
YEAH THE LACKERS WON


Abraxas wins this

guy222
how would abraxas harm entropy good friend

xJLxKing
Originally posted by guy222
how would abraxas harm entropy good friend
No idea, but the fact that he killed countless of Galactus, and was destroying Universal barriers shows how powerful he is.
Also, didn't they need UN to stop him.

Slaanesh
Abraxas

guy222
Abraxas(The Dark Man) was powerful

Bouboumaster
How Abraxas killed the Galactuses? I tought it was with the UN...

Enyalus
Originally posted by Bouboumaster
How Abraxas killed the Galactuses? I tought it was with the UN...
No, he killed the Galactii with his Omega Effect. Thought everyone knew that...

rotiart
Actually... I can't remember how many Galactus's Abraxas killed.. its been a while.. but the way i remember it...

Abraxas was imprisoned in multiverse eternity. Each Galactus acts as a door to this prison. Should any single galactus die, abraxas is set free...

Abraxas sent the severed head of galactus as a foreboding of his coming to other multiverses...
His approach... i forget the exact words... but it did wierd stuff to realities he approached...

He didn't really have too many feats afai remember. He has novas in multiple universes seemingly attacking reed richards in about 5 different universes for sure...they, if i remember right, never stipulated it was in all universes at the same time.. we only saw say.. 4-5...

I dont' remember him ever saying he killed galactus's either... but again.. its been awhile. it could be that whatever galactus died that set him free.. he was using his head as a symbol...

also for the longest time i took that the un fired upon the multiverse.. had killed the multiverse and resealed abraxas... What could have happened is maybe
1. the one universe that was missing its galactus was wiped out... and so that corrected the multiverse..
2. the multiverse eternity had a "wound" in it that was the hole that abraxas escaped from... and the un erased that wound...

So after thinking about it today... i take it back.. his best feat i think was against roma maybe? saturyne turned on roma if i remember.

but i think that roma's track record also has someone like a trickster defeat her also... which makes me think roma isn't that powerfull... but just has a lot of authority...

i mean... look .... abraxas for all his power... knew that reed had the un... and was going to fire the un... but was powerless to stop him... makes me think either
1. pis..
2.. abraxas isn't powerful at all..


3. refs made some ODDDDDDD calls tonight. not the worse i've seen.. but one second they would let something go.. and the next call for it... and pau gasol travelled at one point and noone called him on it.
pau gasol also fouled superman on the arms, but bynum got the call..for over the back after the paul gasol foul.

4. i wonder if my good friend mr master is gonna come in to contradict everything i just said. big grin

Knowsbleed33
Oblivion would win. Both Entropy and Abraxas are most likely agents of Oblivion.

guy222
wb

Mr Master
Originally posted by rotiart

Actually...
I can't remember how many Galactus's Abraxas killed..
An unknown number, but it was many.
Originally posted by rotiart

Abraxas was imprisoned in multiverse eternity.
Each Galactus acts as a door to this prison.
Should any single galactus die, abraxas is set free...
Although all the Galactus' together make up Abraxas' prison,
only the death of 616 Galactus can set him free.
Originally posted by rotiart

Abraxas sent the severed head of galactus
as a foreboding of his coming to other multiverses...

His approach... i forget the exact words...
but it did wierd stuff to realities he approached...
Right, and what his approach was doing was collapsing UniverseS,
any Universe Abraxas would near, would fold into another Universe thus collapsing.
Originally posted by rotiart

He didn't really have too many feats afai remember.
He has novas in multiple universes
seemingly attacking reed richards in about 5 different universes for sure...

they, if i remember right,
never stipulated it was in all universes at the same time..
we only saw say.. 4-5...
Abraxas never used Novas to attack Reed in other Universes.

Abraxas was killing every Reed Richards across ALL Realities, (literally stated)
under his own power with a simple gesture.
Originally posted by rotiart

I dont' remember him ever saying he killed galactus's either... but again.. its been awhile. it could be that whatever galactus died that set him free.. he was using his head as a symbol...
Abraxas (under his own power)
killed every Galactus that was shown dead,
this included every Galactus withIN every Universe he collapsed.

There's absolutely no proof or even allusion of any kind,
which suggests Abraxas used any method other than his own power
to kill Galactuses.
Originally posted by rotiart

also for the longest time i took that the un fired upon the multiverse.. had killed the multiverse and resealed abraxas...
What could have happened is maybe

1. the one universe that was missing its galactus was wiped out...
and so that corrected the multiverse..
2. the multiverse eternity had a "wound" in it that was the hole that abraxas escaped from... and the un erased that wound...
Not exactly good friend.

616 Galactus died (returning to his natural state)
this freed Abraxas,
Abraxas began to traverse realities, collapsing each one he passed by,
in the end, it was realized that ONLY a UN-like power could stop Abraxas,
so, the UN was fired upon Eternity/Infinity,
this erased and re-created the entire prime Multiverse,
therefore creating a new identical Multiverse where Abraxas never manifested.
Originally posted by rotiart

So after thinking about it today... i take it back..
his best feat i think was against roma maybe?
saturyne turned on roma if i remember.
I disagree.

Abraxas best feat was
that he was collapsing the entire prime Multiverse with just his presence.

On top of that, he scared Eternity's totality (616 or multi-Eternity)
enough that even all that is, was or ever will be had to get help against Abraxas,
this is aside from killing who knows how many Galactus',
this is aside from taking away Uatu's memory,
this is aside from demonstrating simultaneous omniversal influence
(at-least on reality withIN realities)
by affecting ALL Reed Richards in creation.
Originally posted by rotiart

but i think that roma's track record also has someone like a trickster defeat her also... which makes me think roma isn't that powerfull... but just has a lot of authority...
You're underestimating Roma, based on a few PIS showings.
Originally posted by rotiart

i mean... look .... abraxas for all his power...
knew that reed had the un... and was going to fire the un...
but was powerless to stop him... makes me think either
1. pis..
2.. abraxas isn't powerful at all..
No where in the arc was it depicted or stated
that Abraxas was powerless to stop Reed,
but as you know true debator, at some point the story had to end,
so they ended it with Reed firing the UN and remaking the prime Multiverse.

If Abraxas was so powerless,
they wouldn't have scoured Multiverses to find the UN,
which can and did remake all creation basically,
and which is stated in Abraxas' bio to be the ONLY weapon capable of stoping him,
of course we can logically assume
that anything above the UN is above Abraxas as well.
(but there's not much above the UN in Marvel)
Originally posted by rotiart


4. i wonder if my good friend mr master
is gonna come in to contradict everything i just said. big grin
laughing out loud stick out tongue

Mr Master
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Oblivion would win.

Both Entropy and Abraxas are most likely agents of Oblivion.
Nah good friend.

Entropy's purpose is to remake/replace Eternity/Infinity every cosmic cycle.

(natural passage from/to death then rebirth)


Abraxas's purpose is to carry out Eternity/Infinity's (all that is) end.

(un-natural death, leaving Abraxas as it's sole surviving God)

guy222
Thank u as always

Good to see ya post

rotiart
Thinking back to the abraxas arc... Can you imagine being reed and told like an afterschool drug special

that see... These are all you across the multiverse
This is me killing all of them at once
Any questions....

guysangel
Oblivion

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah good friend.

Entropy's purpose is to remake/replace Eternity/Infinity every cosmic cycle.

(natural passage from/to death then rebirth)

According to the writer, Entropy is the representation of the end of time.

"the tendency for all matter and energy in the universe to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity."



It would actually make Oblivion God. If you remember from the Cosmics in Collision arc Infinity states that when there's nothing left Oblivion becomes the new supreme being.

Directly or indirectly both Abraxas and Entropy serve Oblivion. Their very purpose in the universe is to expand Oblivions realm.

In any event, neither can defeat Oblivion.

Mindset
Oblivion looked pretty sucky recently.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

According to the writer, Entropy is the representation of the end of time.

"the tendency for all matter and energy in the universe
to evolve toward a state of inert uniformity."
That's correct, but it's the end of the entire Marvel Universe.
(not just time)
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

It would actually make Oblivion God. If you remember from the Cosmics in Collision arc Infinity states that when there's nothing left Oblivion becomes the new supreme being.
I agree, if there's nothing left,
then Oblivion is God, since he embodies nothingness,
but he'd be the God of nothing. (pretty boring if u ask me)
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

Directly or indirectly both Abraxas and Entropy serve Oblivion.
Their very purpose in the universe is to expand Oblivions realm.
I disagree.

Abraxas doesn't die with Eternity/Infinity,
Abraxas survives,
and if he carries out his purpose (end creation)
he can just make his own reality.
(according to one of his bios, Abraxas was planning on remaking creation after ending it)

Entropy doesn't die either,
Entropy not only survives,
but then Entropy becomes Eternity/Infinity,
and creation blossoms again.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33

In any event, neither can defeat Oblivion.
I wouldn't know.

But I'd put my money on Abraxas.

Why?

Cause on panel Infinity battled Oblivion,
and it was a stalemate.

Eternity is = to Infinity,
Abraxas > Eternity/Infinity

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