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Studio fights for the franchise

With the Memorial Day weekend opening of "Terminator Salvation" looming, the future of the franchise has become intriguing.

"Terminator" is the only franchise in which the distributors aren't locked in for future films.

MGM has a 30-day right of first refusal to finance and distribute the fifth "Terminator" film, a right earned through the settlement of a lawsuit between the studio and Halcyon partners Victor Kubicek and Derek Anderson. According to sources, MGM has every intention of making a serious play for the franchise, potentially trumping Warner Bros., which is distributing "Terminator Salvation" in domestic territories, and Sony, which is releasing the film overseas.

The distribution drama promises to be a real cliffhanger that will begin once Halcyon delivers its demands to MGM along with a first draft of the screenplay for the fifth "Terminator."

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very good read. The responses are good too.

Yea, I really hate how movies make post-apocalyptic scenes now..the coloring, the people, ugh. It's always some drab yellowish brown and people looking like they weren't survivors of the future, but primitive tribes from the past. It's fine in one movie...stop copying the same formula in every other movie.

We need the dark blue back. With red lasers streaming everywhere.

Yeah and no people with perfect white teeth

Originally posted by roughrider
Article is dated before the film dropped like a rock at the box office in consecutive weeks. Writers at CHUD are already of the opinion the series is over.

I really hope not

Originally posted by barand1
I really hope not

I believe it is over...in a way.

The best option now is to reboot - start over like so many other series have done. It's paid off terrifically for James Bond, Batman & Star Trek; others will be following.

Originally posted by roughrider
Article is dated before the film dropped like a rock at the box office in consecutive weeks. Writers at CHUD are already of the opinion the series is over. Agreed. I just read their article, and I can't help but agree that the first script's ending, without the "Project Angel" crap, along with a combination of Salvation's story and the original story would have been a much, much better movie. It does seem like McG and Nolan were just rewriting scene by scene while on the set, rather than just sitting down and fixing what was wrong with the script in the first place.

I just don't see how they can fix this franchise without completely rebooting it.

I think they should just get this series over with, make the next 2 movies and finally bury this series.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Agreed. I just read their article, and I can't help but agree that the first script's ending, without the "Project Angel" crap, along with a combination of Salvation's story and the original story would have been a much, much better movie. It does seem like McG and Nolan were just rewriting scene by scene while on the set, rather than just sitting down and fixing what was wrong with the script in the first place.

I just don't see how they can fix this franchise without completely rebooting it.

I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know.

I really hope there is a part 5 in the Termiantor mythology. Things can become good again.

'There is no fate for what we make'.



Originally posted byroughrider
The best option now is to reboot - start over like so many other series have done. It's paid off terrifically for James Bond, Batman & Star Trek; others will be following.

Just because those movies work doesn't mean that the Termiantor needs to be remade. It's had it's reboot with Salvation. That attitude is what is wrong with Hollywood today. I can't believe fans are even considering the option. Some things should just be left alone.

Originally posted by barand1
I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know.

I really hope there is a part 5 in the Termiantor mythology. Things can become good again.

'There is no fate for what we make'.





Just because those movies work doesn't mean that the Termiantor needs to be remade. It's had it's reboot with Salvation. That attitude is what is wrong with Hollywood today. I can't believe fans are even considering the option. Some things should just be left alone.

They turn to rebooting when things go so bad with the series, that there isn't a way out. Terminator is getting stuck in the morass of time travel paradoxes. And when your films do poor to sub par business - see Batman and Robin & Star Trek Nemesis, in addition to Terminator Salvation - you really should just go back to the beginning.
Salvation may be considered a reboot of sorts, but instead it's coming off like a huge misfire. Try again.

Originally posted by barand1
I thought Salvation wasn't bad, but I do agree that some stuff in the original script sounded great. I like the idea of Connor keeping a low profile (although I don't like the idea of Marcus becoming 'Connor'). I guess if they went with that script then no one would go and see it as it has no connections (apart from Reese) to the previous films that people know. Yeah, the whole Marcus is Connor thing is kind of annoying, it basically means that humans needed a machine to win the war for them: something I do not appreciate being that Kyle was such a soldier in the original Terminator. I also like the fact that Connor was on the sub, I think that would have been great and would have allowed the franchise to continue its growth: meaning at the end of Salvation, Connor would have shown himself and everyone would have been like "Its John Connor!" and instead of retreating back to his sub, Connor would have been on the front lines now, just as we saw him in the flashbacks of T2.


I wish that Terminator didn't have to be rebooted, but I would rather have the series continuing rather than it being completely finished, like what seems to be happening after Salvation failed. Its unfortunate, really, because Terminator was the best movie out of them all, I enjoyed it a lot more than T2, and I don't see how they could make a better movie than the original.

Yeah after reading that, it's not happening.

Originally posted by Darth Macabre
Yeah after reading that, it's not happening.

Thanks for ruining my year.

I knew, I knew it


http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BrentSprecher/news/?a=9155

You weren't the only one.........

Ooh, I'm glad it's still going ahead (for now). Found this; McG repeating, recently, what he told us back in May:


"I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a 2011. John Connor is going to travel back in time and he's going to have to galvanize the militaries of the world for an impending SkyNet invasion. They've figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you're going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be (expletive removed) awesome. I also think he's going to meet a scientist that's going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick , talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves.

Full article here.

Originally posted by barand1
Ooh, I'm glad it's still going ahead (for now). Found this; McG repeating, recently, what he told us back in May:


"I strongly suspect the next movie is going to take place in a 2011. John Connor is going to travel back in time and he's going to have to galvanize the militaries of the world for an impending SkyNet invasion. They've figured out time travel to the degree where they can send more than one naked entity. So you're going to have hunter killers and transports and harvesters and everything arriving in our time and Connor fighting back with conventional military warfare, which I think is going to be (expletive removed) awesome. I also think he's going to meet a scientist that's going to look a lot like present-day Robert Patrick , talking about stem-cell research and how we can all live as idealized, younger versions of ourselves.

Full article here.

i read that.. great read

It sounds like like it could be mistake for a Starcraft movie. Futuristic machinery, possibly coming out of portals, a relatively crude army fighting them back.

McG Plans to Put "Fun" Back Into the Terminator Franchise

At Thursday's Television Critics Assocation awards, controversial director McG confirmed that he would be returning to the Terminator franchise that he helped relaunch with this year's Terminator Salvation. Salvation under-performed at the box office, and McG admitted that his film was missing an essential ingredient that original Terminator director, James Cameron, added to the mix.

"I think the film missed some of the fun that Jim brought to the early pictures. I'm a disciple of Jim ... and clearly I didn't do a good enough job on that picture and I didn't satisfy the fanbase to the degree that I would expect to satisfy them. And I take that very seriously and I just work that much more diligently to make sure I do that in the next one."

McG also said that he realized that the film's storyline suffered because of the lack of a central antagonist and the fact that the story was too divided between Christian Bale's character, John Connor, and Sam Worthington's character, Marcus Wright.

"We want to put more meat on the bone because we have the great Christian Bale, but I take a lot of satisfaction in playing a role in breaking the great Sam Worthington, who I think is one of the best actors out there."

Taken from ReelzChannel.com.

'Terminator' rights owner seeks Ch. 11

A Halcyon Co. subsidiary that owns the rights to the "Terminator" franchise is seeking Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.

T Asset Acquisition said in an announcement Tuesday that it had commenced reorganization proceedings in federal bankruptcy court in Los Angeles and will seek to restructure its financial obligations and emerge from Chapter 11 later this year or early next year.

The bankruptcy announcement came a day after Halcyon sued the Pacificor hedge fund and one of its former employees alleging financial wrongdoing in a pair of suits in connection with "Terminator Salvation," accusing the defendants of taking advantage of their knowledge of Halcyon's confidential business information.

Dominion Group, owned by Halcyon toppers Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek, accused Pacificor of wrongfully filing a lien on Dominion's assets to block it from obtaining financing for Halcyon.

Santa Barbara-based Pacificor provided the financing for Halcyon's acquisition of the motion picture and related rights to the "Terminator" franchise in May 2007. It's denied any wrongdoing.

I am a hip hop artist and a pro-wrestler, so I understand the psychology of telling a story. Personally, I am one of the biggest fans of the Terminator franchise. I thought Terminator Salvation definitely was a shot in the arm. Sure, the picture had a few flaws, but so did ALL of the others. People need to quirt bickering about what makes sense and what doesn't, because sending a soldier back through time to bust a nut in your mom to insure your own existence doesn't make any sense either. It's "science fiction/horror/action" (key word is fiction). Here's what I, as a fan, believe should happen in Terminator 5 if they choose to go the time travel route:

T-5 should start out like T-2 did...show us the future in the beginning of the film, give us 10 to 15 (maybe 20) minutes of a direct sequel to Terminator Salvation, show us suffering, the desperation of mankind, the prison camps with the "human disposal units", show us Connor and Reese intercepting data and discovering skynet's plan to terminate the resistance via time travel (sending the first T-1000 prototype). Show us how they find the equipment, with Reese volunteering to go back to warn the world, but Connor refuses, gives Reese a picture of Sarah Connor (he doesn't "know why at the time", puts Reese at the controls of the time displacement equipment, sending Connor back through time, and in that desperate act, Reese gets caught and sent to the prison camp where he got the barcode on his arm. Show the present day with a naked John Connor falling out of the sky, and being arrested for multiple crimes stemming from his desperation to speak to the scientist who "accidentally" develops the T-1000 in the future. Like Kyle Reese in the first picture, everybody think's Connor's a flake that needs to be contained. Skynet sends the first T-1000 prototype (not played by Robert Patrick) to kill Connor and all the survivors of Judgement Day. Robert Patrick's scientist character is the only one "crazy enough" to believe Connor, so he helps Connor escape police custody to "expose and destroy" the T-1000. And at the very end, Robert Patrick's "obsessed with youth" scientist character secures a sample of liquid metal from the T-1000 prototype for his own selfish reasons, and betrays John Connor, thus, getting him committed to an insane asylum.

Follwing taken from Comingsoon.net

The Los Angeles Times has a lengthy and extensive report on the status of Derek Anderson and Victor Kubicek's Halcyon Holdings, who bought the rights to the "Terminator" franchise for $25 million in 2007 in order to produce this summer's Terminator Salvation, but who have now hired the financial advisory firm FTI Capital Advisors to look into their options, having filed for bankruptcy. The thought is that the sale of the rights to the franchise could help make the production company solvent again.

For much of the earlier part of the year, there was a lot of talk about there being a Terminator 5, mostly coming from McG, but the poor reaction and box office showing of "Salvation," at least domestically didn't seem to warrant another installment.

The Los Angeles Times report, which you can read here gets further into the history of the franchise, how the rights have changed hands over the 25 years since James Cameron's original movie, as well as some of the debts owed by Halcyon and the various lawsuits surrounding their bankruptcy.

Oh dear ... it seems that we're in for yet another looong wait before the next Terminator instalment sees the light of day (if it even ever does). Whatever happens, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if McG gets the boot, and John Connor gets re-cast for a third time. Sigh ... why does the making of these films have to be so damned complicated?

Between this, the lukewarm reception to "T4", and the cancellation of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles", it hasn't really been a great year for the franchise, has it?

Originally posted by Ahnold
Between this, the lukewarm reception to "T4", and the cancellation of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles", it hasn't really been a great year for the franchise, has it?

It hasn't, which is sad (obviously). I'm not sure what really has started happening to this franchise. Salvation could of put things back on track, but it became slightly derailed. It's obviously not the same without Cameron, nor with Schwarzenegger. I hope it isn't the end of any possible Terminator movies, but I fear - dare I say - a reboot on the horizon.

I was wondering how long it would be before someone mentioned the dreaded "R" word . That may one day come to pass; but, for now at least, I feel they owe it to the fans to complete the story told over the course of the last four films (and 25 years!) in a meaningful and satisfying way ...

And if Jim Cameron can be the man to do that, then so much the better .

Disney's watery, literary epic 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: Captain Nemo has been put in dry dock, leaving director McG looking for a new project.

So what next for McG? He remains attached to Terminator 5, with the slight hitch that Terminator 5 is not currently attached to anything else while the rights are auctioned off.

Full article over at Empire

ComingSoon.net got a chance to talk to Bryce Dallas Howard at the press day for The Loss of a Teardrop Diamond where she was asked about possibly returning as Kate Connor in another "Terminator".

Q: McG announced his plans to make a fifth and sixth "Terminator" film. If that does happen, would you like to be involved again?

Howard: Oh yeah! I haven't signed anything that would obligate them to me or me to them or anything like that because it was... that film was made with a lot of humility, you know, it's like we'll do this one the best that we can and if people ask for more then they ask for me. But, it's an incredible group. We are all fiercely committed to the story, I mean, it's Terminator for goodness sakes. So, yeah, if that comes about I would, you know... and if I should be so lucky that they invite me back, I would be loathed to walk away from that.

Full interview can be read here

SOURCES: Halcyon Chooses Lionsgate As Stalking Horse Bidder In Bankruptcy Sale Of Rights To 'The Terminator' Franchise

WEDNESDAY PM UPDATE: I hear Lionsgate's bid was $15 million, plus a gross corridor.

WEDNESDAY AM: So what's a stalking horse bid? An initial bid on a bankrupt company's assets from an interested buyer chosen by the bankrupt company. This allows the distressed firm to avoid receiving lowball bids on its assets. That said, I hear Lionsgate will be named the stalking horse bidder in the bankruptcy sale of the Terminator franchise. Sources tell me it wasn't a competitive auction. (Sorry, Joss Whedon, your $10,000 offer for the rights didn't cut it.)

When last we left the tug of war over the future of The Terminator franchise, Halcyon Holding Group announced it was contemplating a sale of the rights after filing for Chapter 11 protection last August as a result of a dispute with Pacificor, a Santa Barbara-based hedge fund that lent Halcyon the sum to buy the Terminator rights in the first place. All the big studios, with Sony leading the way as well as Summit Entertainment and Media Rights Capital, were interested in bidding at a franchise auction for new Terminator films, TV program and other spin-offs. (Because we all know The Sarah Connor Chronicles on Fox did so well, right?)

The sale was being conducted by FTI Capital Advisors for Halcyon which bought the Terminator rights 2 years ago for $25M from Mario Kassar. I think this character/concept is played out. But given the regularity with which Hollywood is now rebooting franchises (Spider-Man is the latest), it pays to remember that even the fanboy dud Terminator 4: Salvation still made $380M worldwide.


Source: Deadline Hollywood Daily

James Cameron Not Interested In Terminator Rights

He has a kajillion dollars in the bank between "Titanic" and now "Avatar," so why shouldn't James Cameron buy the rights to the Terminator franchise, especially right now when he could practically get it for pennies on the dollar?

It might be cheap as a lot in a bankruptcy auction, but Cameron -- who gave us "Terminator" and "Terminator 2: Judgment Day" -- says he ain't biting.

"People ask me why I didn't want to get involved in trying to recapture the rights to Terminator," Cameron told "At the Movies." "For one, who wants to spend $50 million on the rights and then another $25 million or $30 million on actors? By the time you get to it, how much do you actually have to make the movie? That's robbing the audience."

Cameron, who created the Terminator franchise, sold it so that he would have a chance to direct the film, something he was able to do thanks to producer Gale Ann Hurd and Orion Pictures, which distributed the first film that became a smash hit.

But that's not what Cameron is ready to do now, even though his last two films breaking budget records doesn't give him much room to talk about cost.

"We put every dollar up there on the screen in 'Avatar,'" Cameron said. The money "is not squandered on star salaries. That's a pretty damn good deal when the cost of a ticket doesn't change."

Source: Alphabits

Hey guys. My first post of 2010 - a belated happy new year to all!

Thanks for your continued updates, Barand. Whilst I am hardly surprised by Cameron turning down the chance to buy the rights back to the Terminator franchise, some of his comments did confuse me a bit; he talks about not "squandering" money on star salaries - but surely his old buddy Arnold had a pretty big asking price when it came to doing "T2" and "True Lies"?

The whole point of hiring big stars is that, in most cases, that's what sells the movie to the public at large; I do concede, though, that Cameron has done amazingly well without having to cast megastars - but that's often because he can sell his films on the basis of spectacle. I do wonder, though, if "Avatar" would have made even more money at the box office if it had starred Will Smith ... ?

I don't know what it is, but I'm beginning to like Cameron less and less. I think it maybe because he comes across as a bit cocky and a bit too sure of himself.

Since T2 the standard in writing on Cameron's behalf has slipped. It's understandable while Cameron wants no involvment with the Terminator franchise, but surely if he just produced it some how or brought the rights and made sure that their was a good enough creative team behind a fifth film.

As for him talking about salaries; it was he who told Arnold not to committ to T3 unless they paid him a shitload of money, which he later got. That's been confirmed by both Cameron and Arnold. Also, how much will Cameron be getting for Avatar?

I'm dreading a Terminator remake I guess. After Sony annoucing a reboot for Spider-Man I guess anything is possible.

I wished they could have just ended the series with the last movie but no they have to make more.

Originally posted by DarthLazious
I wished they could have just ended the series with the last movie but no they have to make more.

As much as the Terminator series has been ruined I would like to see another movie to perfect the wrong doings and leave the franchise on a high note.

Originally posted by barand1
As much as the Terminator series has been ruined I would like to see another movie to perfect the wrong doings and leave the franchise on a high note.

You think that's what they should have done after Batman & Robin? Do a high-risk rescue of a series in the toilet, rather than reboot? Because rebooting turned out to be brilliant.

Originally posted by roughrider
You think that's what they should have done after Batman & Robin? Do a high-risk rescue of a series in the toilet, rather than reboot? Because rebooting turned out to be brilliant.

I don't think the Terminator series has fell to the sewers like Batman did in the 90's. There's quite a bit deleted from T3 and TS that could improve both films. I think there's still one movie left to keep a Connor heart beating.

Sony tables bid for 'Terminator' series

Sony has tabled a bid for the Terminator franchise, according to Variety.

The studio, which distributed last year's Terminator Salvation internationally, has joined Lionsgate in the race to pick up Halcyon Group's rights to the blockbuster series. Sony reportedly submitted a bid on Thursday, the final day for offers on the property before Monday's auction and Halcyon's bankruptcy hearing.

Lionsgate offered $15 million and 5% of gross receipts on further Terminator productions to Halcyon, while details on the Sony bid have not been disclosed. Lionsgate will receive a $750,000 breakup free from the winning bidder should they not win the auction.

Source: digitalspy.co.uk

Originally posted by barand1
I don't think the Terminator series has fell to the sewers like Batman did in the 90's. There's quite a bit deleted from T3 and TS that could improve both films. I think there's still one movie left to keep a Connor heart beating.

I think what they found after 3, is that they need James Cameron - but his ship has sailed.
What they found after 4 - is that there is no franchise without Arnold. And he's busy, and just getting older (63 this year?)

Reboot has become the only true option. Who really wants to pour money into what's become a dead end road?

Originally posted by roughrider
I think what they found after 3, is that they need James Cameron - but his ship has sailed.
What they found after 4 - is that there is no franchise without Arnold. And he's busy, and just getting older (63 this year?)

Reboot has become the only true option. Who really wants to pour money into what's become a dead end road?

There's no point rebooting without Cameron, if that is what they found out after 3. I'd rather we just remember the good points of the Terminator movies and be left we've those movies we already have. There's nothing really new that can be done that hasn't been done before with the movies.

This is the same William Wisher who's writerly brilliance is evident in films like Judge Dredd & The 13th Warrior?

Hasn't exactly distinguished himself, working away from James Cameron.

Plus, they can't find a director who really knows what they're doing.























...But what if they gave Cameron's ex - Kathryn Bigelow - a call? Once she collects her Oscar(s) this Sunday, she could be available. She has a thing for apocalyptic stories.

Originally posted by roughrider
This is the same William Wisher who's writerly brilliance is evident in films like Judge Dredd & The 13th Warrior?

Hasn't exactly distinguished himself, working away from James Cameron.

Plus, they can't find a director who really knows what they're doing.










...But what if they gave Cameron's ex - Kathryn Bigelow - a call? Once she collects her Oscar(s) this Sunday, she could be available. She has a thing for apocalyptic stories.

I think Wisher's idea sounds really good. I'm not so sure about the Sarah and Kyle storyline but if it's a given go then we'll see. I like the sound of a surprise turn for Schwarzenegger's terminator and the new shape-shifting ones. I do hope his treatment works and is given the greenlight. After all he did help co-create the (Terminator) movies we love.

Kethryn Bigelow would be a nice choice to direct. After all, we've had worse.

Originally posted by roughrider

Reboot has become the only true option. Who really wants to pour money into what's become a dead end road?

I don't really want to see a reboot for this franchise


whats next Lucas decides to reboot star wars hold on better not give him idea's.

The only thing I could see them having left to do is complete the circle and have the next/last movie be the final conflict between Skynet and the human resistance and John making sure in the final scene that Kyle makes it all the way and gets to go back to ensure his conception and humanities victory!

There is still some hope. Don't forget there has only been four movies so far. Two of them have been brilliant, the other 2 not so. A fifth film must lean towards the former two before we decide this series' fate.

There is a topic for this so I thought I'd post it here. Looks like the Terminator franchise has risen from the ashes of it's own apocalypse and in the form of a proposed... cartoon - http://bit.ly/bRZ8JZ

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/26/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-return/

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/26/arnold-schwarzenegger-terminator-return/

Thats gna be seriously bad!

What are your views on Justin Lin directing a fifth Terminator movie, and the recent news/rumours that surround it?

Originally posted by barand1
What are your views on Justin Lin directing a fifth Terminator movie, and the recent news/rumours that surround it?

Just saying they are looking to go the same route as the recent Star Trek, means REBOOT.
Which is what I've been saying.

And how much longer can Arnie be tied in to this, with his divorce coming soon and his advancing age?

Originally posted by roughrider
Just saying they are looking to go the same route as the recent Star Trek, means REBOOT.
Which is what I've been saying.

And how much longer can Arnie be tied in to this, with his divorce coming soon and his advancing age?

The problem I have with Terminator Salvation is that it was another stab in the now slow beating heart of the franchise. It obvious that T3 and TS are the weakest entries, and where one excels the other one doesn't. So a reboot is an important option, but it's a risk, just as much as making a new film that continues from Salvation. As much as I would like to see another Terminator film with Schwarzenegger attached, it seems very unlikely, even if his career may depend on it.

Personally, I would make a a film showing the future war we've all seen and love in T1-T3, and make sure it has a gripping and thrilling story.

Where this franchise has gone wrong after T2 is that studios have seeked directors who just know and care about the action, which isn't what the Terminator is really about.

Originally posted by roughrider
Just saying they are looking to go the same route as the recent Star Trek, means REBOOT.
Which is what I've been saying.

And how much longer can Arnie be tied in to this, with his divorce coming soon and his advancing age?

If its JJ type Star Trek reboot, where its rebooted in the sense the timeline has changed so T3 and 4 might not happen now, thats fine. But a reboot ignoring Terminators 1 and 2 would be sooo wrong! They can never redo those movies.

Changing the timeline is fine, but fact is T3 and Salvation happened now, and both have Arny, so I would even argue ignoring them at this stage would be confusing too.

The problem with the changing timelines, is that it's been happening since the first film. Is there any change that can happen that would cancel out Judgment Day once and for all?

I just hope that whatever they decide to release in future, whether that be Terminator 5: A New Beginning or Terminator 10: Hasta La Vista, Baby, I hope and I pray to God that they never do a remake of the first or second Terminator movie. (Remake the others all you want...)

Originally posted by roughrider
The problem with the changing timelines, is that it's been happening since the first film. Is there any change that can happen that would cancel out Judgment Day once and for all?

Send a bunch of resistance fighters back to a period of time before any Terminators were sent back and blow up the Cyberdyne buildings. Then keep tabs on up and coming companies who are developing technology similar to Cyberdyne and take them down too!

Bit of an impossible task really. "Judgement Day is inevitable!"