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Dormammu, Umar, Mephisto, Hellstorm, Pluto, Satannish, Magik and Surtur vs the big G (average G) in the Dark Dimension.

hmmmm . . .

He allowed to absorb the Dark Dimension?

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
He allowed to absorb the Dark Dimension?

if he could do so. not sure it would be that easy with all the others involved. surtur alone outside his realm has destroyed a galaxy on his own. that's a bigger display of on-panel power than galactus has ever had (minus the black celestial arc).

The lords can take this, they are all skyfather level and some of them are above like Dormammu.

Originally posted by leonidas
if he could do so. not sure it would be that easy with all the others involved. surtur alone outside his realm has destroyed a galaxy on his own. that's a bigger display of on-panel power than galactus has ever had (minus the black celestial arc). I don't recall it being stated what Galactus had actually destroyed in that arc, until the very end when he destroyed a universe (with the UN.)

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't recall it being stated what Galactus had actually destroyed in that arc, until the very end when he destroyed a universe (with the UN.)

fair enough. i simply meant that his altered hunger made him capable of absorbing EVERYTHING. regardless--this is just regular galactus and he's never has an on-panel feat to match surtur's. skyfathers always get low-balled around here.

The Lords win this. There are too many of them that they'll wear Galactus down for the eventual kill.

Dormammu alone could give him a decent fight.

Originally posted by leonidas
if he could do so... that's a bigger display of on-panel power than galactus has ever had (minus the black celestial arc).
Agamotto's realm. Mephisto's realm. Statements that even weakened, he contains the power to destroy the 616 multiverse and the Negative Zone at the same time...



I think the Lords take this for a small majority. Not going to be easy, though.

Galactus. Assuming galactus is at least celestial level (which i believe) then he win this.

A Celestial or two could stalemate this team.
Galactus > average Celestial

I know ABC logic doesn't often work, but in this case it does.

Originally posted by occultdestroyer
A Celestial or two could stalemate this team.
Galactus > average Celestial

I know ABC logic doesn't often work, but in this case it does.

The weird is during a story where Dormammu took over Strange's body he said given enough time he would defeat the Celestials.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The weird is during a story where Dormammu took over Strange's body he said given enough time he would defeat the Celestials.
I think that was more of his regular bravado than anything else.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Agamotto's realm. Mephisto's realm. Statements that even weakened, he contains the power to destroy the 616 multiverse and the Negative Zone at the same time...

not sure what that first part means . . .

aggy appeared to maybe be getting the better of it and g didn't try absorbing his realm. mephisto stalemated him in raw power. not sure where it was said he had power to destroy the multiverse and the NZ at the same time, but i'm calling BS on that. besides, if we used hearsay gladiator has unlimited strength.



i agree, but only because many of the lords draw so much of their power from their own realms and so many would be considerably weaker than they normally would be.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure what that first part means . . .

aggy appeared to maybe be getting the better of it and g didn't try absorbing his realm. mephisto stalemated him in raw power. not sure where it was said he had power to destroy the multiverse and the NZ at the same time, but i'm calling BS on that. besides, if we used hearsay gladiator has unlimited strength.


I dont remember aggamaoto getting the better of G at all. G just kept blasting his form and he just kept reforming. Not much else really went on. And it was in annihilation where it was said that he had enough energy to destroy 616 and the NZ simultaneously.

Originally posted by Naija boy
I dont remember aggamaoto getting the better of G at all. G just kept blasting his form and he just kept reforming. Not much else really went on. And it was in annihilation where it was said that he had enough energy to destroy 616 and the NZ simultaneously.

yeah that's what i meant. nothing g did really seemed to bother aggy. all aggy needed to do was keep fighting and let g weaken himself.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure what that first part means . . .

aggy appeared to maybe be getting the better of it and g didn't try absorbing his realm.
I thought he threatened to absorb Aggy's realm?

Originally posted by leonidas
mephisto stalemated him in raw power.
That's irrelevant, especially because Mephisto is supposed to be omnipotent in his own realm. I was referring to Big G having the capability to absorb it.

Originally posted by leonidas
not sure where it was said he had power to destroy the multiverse and the NZ at the same time, but i'm calling BS on that.
In Annihilation. He would have had to kill himself to unleash that amount of power, but it shows he has that level of power.

Originally posted by leonidas
besides, if we used hearsay gladiator has unlimited strength.
"Near infinite" strength...which he does.

Originally posted by Enyalus

I thought he threatened to absorb Aggy's realm?

nope, don't think so at least . . .



but he's NOT omnipotent there. he's been challenged there many times. warlock beat him 1on1 with the gem. surfer even matched him power for power once.



hmm, don't remember that. do you have the scan? i'd love to see the context and know who said that. he was granted power by a single dying universe. he's been said to be an equal to eternity if he's at his peak. i have no idea how he could have the power to wipe out all that. especially since the last time he 'died' he simply became an ever-burning star . . . hmm . . . maybe he ment if he died abraxas would show up and wipe out all of that. that would at least make a little more sense.





if you're "near infinite" you are infinitely far away from infinite.

In Annihilation,

It was Annihilus' mind saying that he would use Galactus to wipe out everything in the positive and negative universes so Annihilus could live in a perfect void of death.

Thanos basically confirmed that this could happen after learning it.

Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, don't remember that. do you have the scan? i'd love to see the context and know who said that. he was granted power by a single dying universe. he's been said to be an equal to eternity if he's at his peak. i have no idea how he could have the power to wipe out all that. especially since the last time he 'died' he simply became an ever-burning star . . . hmm . . . maybe he ment if he died abraxas would show up and wipe out all of that. that would at least make a little more sense.

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And again, that's while Galactus was vastly weakened. Keep in mind its being stated/confirmed by Thanos...so, its most likely accurate.

Annihilation #4.

Originally posted by Enyalus
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And again, that's while Galactus was vastly weakened. Keep in mind its being stated/confirmed by Thanos...so, its most likely accurate.

Annihilation #4.

ahhh . . . i remember that now. still makes no sense. probably why i forgot about it the first time.

still makes absolutely no sense at all, but they were talking UNIVERSE, not multiverse which is a little more believeable. except for the fact that . . . you know, g ALREADY died and the universe was still here.

bah! matters little. he still loses this fight.

Yes, that particular universe. The canon, 616 universe. Which is actually a multiverse on its own.


Okay.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, that particular universe. The canon, 616 universe. Which is actually a multiverse on its own.


Okay.

oi vey . . . .

doh

Originally posted by Enyalus
Yes, that particular universe. The canon, 616 universe. Which is actually a multiverse on its own.


Okay.
So what exactly would they have said if they just meant universe as in universe?

Probably that Galactus could destroy the Negative Zone and Reality 616, disregarding what we know about reality 616.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So what exactly would they have said if they just meant universe as in universe?
They were referring to a universe. The 616 one. Which from handbook entries and other canon storyarcs is actually a multiverse on its own. It's the keystone of the Marvel Universe/omniverse. As shown when LT was going to replace it with the Ultimateverse.

The reality/universe Galactus was going to destroy was a multiverse.


If they just wanted to talk about him destroying one universe, they might use the words 'this reality' or something. But still, if it took place within 616....then that destruction would be of the 616 multiverse.



For example, when Genis crushed 616 Eternity and destroyed the universe....he destroyed the omniverse, because it was 616 it happened to. That's confirmed on Marvel's official site when you look up the history of the Marvel Universe and it mentions Genis destroying and helping to recreate it . And later on throughout the issues when its revealed that in addition to destroying the universe entire timelines and alternate universes were destroyed along with it.

the death gods would over power him, they would just merge there realms toghther were there all omnipotent

Galactus would eat their realms

How would the death gods be omnipotent? We've seen things like Surfer taking it to Mephisto and the Odinforce (without Odin or Thor guiding it) school Hela in her realm. Unless there's a particular event your referring to that I've missed.

Oh ya just remembered, It was Marnot with the power of Odin who schooled Hela in Hel so that doesn't really add anything since Odin is nigh omnipotent himself.