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Just a H2H combat fight, who wins?

Spiderman.

is DDs hearing and sense of emotion as quick as spidey sense ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
is DDs hearing and sense of emotion as quick as spidey sense ?
no, but some ppl try to think it is. spidey lands the 1st punch for the win.

Originally posted by chomperx9
is DDs hearing and sense of emotion as quick as spidey sense ?

I actually think it is, because in a comic I read, Spider-Man and DD were together and when Spidey senced something, DD senced it as well.

Oh, and I think DD wins, but a good fight.

daredevil's greatest asset is the fact that spider-man will hold back his full striking power against him.

it would definitely hinder his chances of getting a solid ten wins, but he would get the majority since webbing can subdue just as well as his punches/kicks could.

Originally posted by chomperx9
is DDs hearing and sense of emotion as quick as spidey sense ? I'd say it's better. Where Spider-Man's allows him to sense a bomb's detonation right before it happens Daredevil would most likely sense it building up. Irrelevant though, seeing how it won't get him the win. Spider-Man is just flat out better in every area relevant excapt for skills, senses, and arguably limited pre-recognition.

in terms of skill, matt is well above him imo, but when all the other attributes are coounted, spidey should take it imo...

S-M

Spidey for most.

You think Daredevil could get a win?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
You think Daredevil could get a win?

I think he could potentially get anywhere from 1 to 4 in pure H2H with no webbing.

Depends, if Spider-Man is holding back and it's only H2H I can see Daredevil winning a few. But if Spider-Man has any level of seriousness and isn't holding back, fighting to the best of his abilities...........poor Matt.

Spidey ftw

Spidey for the logical pound.


without using only simple logic based on stats, spidey FTM


Originally posted by Darth Martin
Depends, if Spider-Man is holding back and it's only H2H I can see Daredevil winning a few. But if Spider-Man has any level of seriousness and isn't holding back, fighting to the best of his abilities...........poor Matt.

if its just H2H fight and no webbing then i give it to DD
if spidey has the symbiote and its an H2H fight then i would give it to spidey

Why would he have the symbiote?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why would he have the symbiote? stronger faster more acrobatic. not saying hes any whimp without it but with it he would own DD

I understand the result if he had it.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Why would he have the symbiote?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I understand the result if he had it. are you asking why would he have the symbiote in the 1st place ? or why would he have it as in why would he need it ?

Originally posted by chomperx9
are you asking why would he have the symbiote in the 1st place ?

Originally posted by Darth Martin
i guess you dont want the question answered thats fine

Originally posted by chomperx9
i guess you dont want the question answered thats fine The wink was an indication of "yes".

Originally posted by Darth Martin
The wink was an indication of "yes". and you were implying yes to wich of the questions i asked ?

Probably the one quoted.

Originally posted by Mindset
Probably the one quoted. hmm good point. and my answer to the one quoted is hed probably have it back for old time sake cause he wants to do some heavy ass kicking.

So he can aquire it whenever? Irrelevant seeing how he doesn't need it.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
So he can aquire it whenever? Irrelevant seeing how he doesn't need it. you see every now and then in the amazing spiderman series you see spidey back in black and the last issue had nothing to do with the symbiote.

if it wasnt H2H he wouldnt need it but H2H he probably would.

Originally posted by chomperx9
you see every now and then in the amazing spiderman series you see spidey back in black and the last issue had nothing to do with the symbiote. I doubt that's the symbiote. Just his regular black cloth costume.

Originally posted by chomperx9
if it wasnt H2H he wouldnt need it but H2H he probably would. He doesn't need it period. He doesn't need his webbing either. Just because Daredevil can sense a movement doesn't mean he'll be able to react in time to stop it. If Spider-Man doesn't hold back he should kill Daredevil in one punch.

Originally posted by Darth Martin

You disagree or our you mourning the potential loss.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
You disagree or our you mourning the potential loss. disagree big time with the killing DD with one punch.

Well feats might disagree with logic but were suppose to keep in mind the latter here.

For example there are scans that show Daredevil surviving hits from a pissed off Namor.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
there are scans that show Daredevil surviving hits from a pissed off Namor. your not helping yourself there

Originally posted by chomperx9
your not helping yourself there I am simply stating there is a large degree of bullshit put in comics. We must seperate and draw a line from bullshit showings(Batckick/Armbar) and use logic and common sense. Matt is a peak human in durability at best. A 20 tonner in Spider-Man realistically would decapitate him if he felt like it.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
I am simply stating there is a large degree of bullshit put in comics. We must seperate and draw a line from bullshit showings(Batckick/Armbar) and use logic and common sense. Matt is a peak human in durability at best. A 20 tonner in Spider-Man realistically would decapitate him if he felt like it.

Makes sense.

Stats ftw. Spider-man.

Straight h2h, nod to Daredevil.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
If Spider-Man doesn't hold back he should kill Daredevil in one punch.

It works both ways.

What i dont see, is why ppl use Spidey in top forms and not DD? The man was fast enough to avoid being hit by lasers that tracked ppls thoughts. Les not forget that in earlier encounters, Spidey was actually trying to hit DD. Daredevil has done extremely well vs a bloodlusted Spidey encounter before. And like i mentioned, a killing blow can be delivered on both ends.

I'm not saying Daredevil can't win. But I don't see him taking the majority. Not if the powers are allowed.

Originally posted by jrodslam
What i dont see, is why ppl use Spidey in top forms and not DD? The man was fast enough to avoid being hit by lasers that tracked ppls thoughts. Les not forget that in earlier encounters, Spidey was actually trying to hit DD. Daredevil has done extremely well vs a bloodlusted Spidey encounter before. And like i mentioned, a killing blow can be delivered on both ends. Everyone dodges lasers and all that jaz though, I'm pretty sure DD admitted he wouldn't do too well against Spidey, including that brainwashed one. DD can win, but Spiderman can kill him with one hit a LOT easier than DD can kill him with one hit, especially since Spiderman is faster.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
DD can win, but Spiderman can kill him with one hit a LOT easier than DD can kill him with one hit, especially since Spiderman is faster. QFT

DD knows kung fu. Yay!






Parker wins. Spite...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Everyone dodges lasers and all that jaz though, I'm pretty sure DD admitted he wouldn't do too well against Spidey, including that brainwashed one. DD can win, but Spiderman can kill him with one hit a LOT easier than DD can kill him with one hit, especially since Spiderman is faster.

2 things
1. With no PIS, Matt is in for a right good kicking. Pete is faster more durable and waaaayy stronger, even at classic levels.
2. In 616 continuety, the symbiote never enhanced Spiderman's powers. That only happened in the movie and cartoons.

HTH

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Everyone dodges lasers and all that jaz though, I'm pretty sure DD admitted he wouldn't do too well against Spidey, including that brainwashed one. DD can win, but Spiderman can kill him with one hit a LOT easier than DD can kill him with one hit, especially since Spiderman is faster.

Everyone has dodged lasers that track peoples thoughts? Ofcourse DD admitted he would get creamed if Spidey were to hit him with a blow that connected fully. In the sense that IF Spidey were to successfully land a killing blow on DD with full power, it would be easier than DD's killing blow, that is true. However, history through the years show that its easier for DD to just land a hit than it is for Spidey to land a clean full powered hit. When Spderman being naturally faster and stronger gets nulled 90% of the time vs DD.

The excuse of "Spidey holds back" gets old. Because he holds back in strength means he can land a clean hit on DD? It shouldnt. When he didnt hold back in strength, he still struggled to land clean ones on DD. When he didnt hold back in speed, again, he still struggled to land good hits on DD. Even villains who we know arent holding back still struggle to land clean hits on DD.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Everyone has dodged lasers that track peoples thoughts? Ofcourse DD admitted he would get creamed if Spidey were to hit him with a blow that connected fully. In the sense that IF Spidey were to successfully land a killing blow on DD with full power, it would be easier than DD's killing blow, that is true. However, history through the years show that its easier for DD to just land a hit than it is for Spidey to land a clean full powered hit. When Spderman being naturally faster and stronger gets nulled 90% of the time vs DD.

The excuse of "Spidey holds back" gets old. Because he holds back in strength means he can land a clean hit on DD? It shouldnt. When he didnt hold back in strength, he still struggled to land clean ones on DD. When he didnt hold back in speed, again, he still struggled to land good hits on DD. Even villains who we know arent holding back still struggle to land clean hits on DD. How would it be harder for him to land a full powered shot, he's done it several times against faster and more brutal opponents. Venom, Kingpin, etc. Of course they died. But he doesn't even need full power, he probably only needs about half power, and with his momentum he's going to get the rest of it. Hitting pressure points isn't always 100% effective, and it varies from person to person. Also Spiderman has superhuman equilibrium, so the dazing effects and things like that would be minimal. Spiderman holds back because it is who he is. It's like saying DD's blindness is getting old. I agree that DD can win against a joking Spiderman, but if this is a MJ just got killed, he wouldn't have much of a chance on the VS forum.

DD vs batman would be a batter match up in H2H, Spidey and his sense's are to much for DD. Spidey would eventually overpower him to. Spidey's reflexes are are almost ad speedsters levels.

Spidey.

Going on sheer feats. Spidey should win every time.

Matt's a legit bullet timer, but that pales in comparison to the kinds of things Spidey's avoided. Add in all the other attributes, and it doesn't look good.

Originally posted by zeel
DD vs batman would be a batter match up in H2H, Spidey and his sense's are to much for DD. Spidey would eventually overpower him to. Spidey's reflexes are are almost ad speedsters levels.

Only if Bats had his equitment.

The problem is Batman outpaces shooters. Matt outpaces BULLETS.

Kind of ironic that even Cap doesn't have many bullet time feats compared to DD, yet he's supposed to be higher on the food chain..

Originally posted by cdtm
Kind of ironic that even Cap doesn't have many bullet time feats compared to DD, yet he's supposed to be higher on the food chain..

I thought he had more of these than Matt.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I thought he had more of these than Matt.

Not that I've seen.

He has a lot of feats of dodging SHOOTERS, which isn't the same thing at all as outpacing a bullet, it's only being faster then the shooter can track.

Which isn't to say Cap doesn't have any bullet timing feats, but they're such a minority that they're basically PIS against the weight of his non bullet timey feats, the same as Batmans one bullet timing feat doesn't stand...

spidey wins, fools

Originally posted by cdtm
Not that I've seen.

He has a lot of feats of dodging SHOOTERS, which isn't the same thing at all as outpacing a bullet, it's only being faster then the shooter can track.

Which isn't to say Cap doesn't have any bullet timing feats, but they're such a minority that they're basically PIS against the weight of his non bullet timey feats, the same as Batmans one bullet timing feat doesn't stand...

I'm talking about the actual bullet dodging, yes.

Red Skull, Winter Soldier, New Avengers... and what feats does DD have? I can think of that super old one from his yellow costume days and the one when he saved Spidey's ass.

come on guys !
do people seriously believe that daredevil will take SM on a forum fight?
>fact: SM can lift minimum 10 tons (20,000 lbs) and up to 20 tons (40,000 lbs)
>fact : daredevil weighs about 200 lbs
>fact : Peter can lift 100-200 x DD's body weight
thus 1 punch from spider-man should flatten/smear DD's face as this is not a comic whereby peter has to forget his physical superiority and trade punches with a regular athlete as is he is as strong as DD.
There is no unwritten law that the powerless heroes must survive without any real damage to fight on in his own comic line, this is a forum fight.

Spiderman wins 10/10

Originally posted by ankur29
come on guys !
do people seriously believe that daredevil will take SM on a forum fight?

That's not what is being discussed.

spidey's faster, stronger, more durable, and has ranged attacks/spider sense. His speed advantage gives him more opportunity to get hits in.his durability advantage means he can take more than DD can dish out(at least b4 spidey puts him down).his strength advantage means that when he lands hits, theyll be much more liable to do major damage or put him down altogether. His speed along with SS means he wont even have to take more punishment, as he can evade his opponent more easily than his opponent can evade him. Web gives him the ability to attack from distance and possibly end it all by entrapping him. Petes the clear winner here

If this was a pure H2H fight Daredevil would kill him with a death pressure point as soon as the fight started.
Spider-man is not faster then Daredevil maybe he has better reactions when applied with his spider sense but as often as they have fought DD has never remarked about being unable to keep up with his speed.

Wow Spiderman would kill DD. I think on panel DD even admitted this.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I'm talking about the actual bullet dodging, yes.

Red Skull, Winter Soldier, New Avengers... and what feats does DD have? I can think of that super old one from his yellow costume days and the one when he saved Spidey's ass.

When he was in a fat suit, disguised as Kingpin? And he was beaten senseless before the feat, too. Yeah, that was awesome.

Here's some other examples:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416675-916338_elektra11021wo1bf_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416325-622695_daredevilannual07556nk_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1610175-1286878_ddthe_best_super.jpg

And even though this kind of defeats my argument, here's DD explaining how he's a bullet timer.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/884063-daredevil4yb8_super.jpg

Yup, deflecting bullets with pinpoint precision proves he can't outrun bullets, outthink bullets, or dodge bullets.

Originally posted by jrodslam
Everyone has dodged lasers that track peoples thoughts?


Sounds like a cool feat jrod, when did it happen?

Originally posted by cdtm
Only if Bats had his equitment.

The problem is Batman outpaces shooters. Matt outpaces BULLETS.

Kind of ironic that even Cap doesn't have many bullet time feats compared to DD, yet he's supposed to be higher on the food chain..


Why would it be ironic, since Matt himself has admitted that Cap is his better in regards to speed and strength. The guy even has incredible running feats one against Daredevil(which he passed him easily) among his own incredible speed feats.

spiderman nearly killed matt during atlantis attacks when spiderman's mind was reduced to the level of a angry dog. his punches sent matt sailing 20 feet at a time. this revealed something you probably already know. spider-man really really really holds back. a few punches at close range and full force would kill daredevil.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
The guy even has incredible running feats one against Daredevil(which he passed him easily) among his own incredible speed feats.

Im not sure if that actually happened.

Originally posted by SasuOna
If this was a pure H2H fight Daredevil would kill him with a death pressure point as soon as the fight started.
Spider-man is not faster then Daredevil maybe he has better reactions when applied with his spider sense but as often as they have fought DD has never remarked about being unable to keep up with his speed.

Originally posted by SamZED
Suprised? Take a look at some Wolverine threads.

Originally posted by cdtm
When he was in a fat suit, disguised as Kingpin? And he was beaten senseless before the feat, too. Yeah, that was awesome.

Here's some other examples:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416675-916338_elektra11021wo1bf_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416325-622695_daredevilannual07556nk_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1610175-1286878_ddthe_best_super.jpg

Originally posted by SamZED
It's gotten bad, they are officially saying peak humans are faster than him. I may have to get my fanboy slaying gear on... and make a return.

I think one person said that....

Originally posted by cdtm
When he was in a fat suit, disguised as Kingpin? And he was beaten senseless before the feat, too. Yeah, that was awesome.

Here's some other examples:

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416675-916338_elektra11021wo1bf_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1416325-622695_daredevilannual07556nk_super_super.jpg

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/6/61080/1610175-1286878_ddthe_best_super.jpg

And even though this kind of defeats my argument, here's DD explaining how he's a bullet timer.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/2/29885/884063-daredevil4yb8_super.jpg

Yup, deflecting bullets with pinpoint precision proves he can't outrun bullets, outthink bullets, or dodge bullets.

Yes, that's the one.

OK, I'm impressed.

Originally posted by Deadline
Im not sure if that actually happened.


Me thinks it did.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Me thinks it did.

What I mean is I dont think DD and Cap were racing each other.......DD was standing still.

Originally posted by Deadline
What I mean is I dont think DD and Cap were racing each other.......DD was standing still.

DD was shown in a running position, as he acknowledged Steve is faster then him. As DD wasn't even portrayed as being able to keep up with him.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
DD was shown in a running position, as he acknowledged Steve is faster then him. As DD wasn't even portrayed as being able to keep up with him.

Looked at the scan again...damn that was quite impressive actually.

DD did much better against Hyde than Peter.

World War Daredevil would rip his face off.

Spider-Man

Spider-man.

Spidey unquestionably. End thread

Matt beats him. Again.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1544554-daredevil_spiderman_04_super.jpg

pis

Unless SpiderMan holds back, Peter takes down Matt MUCH more often than not, extra powers or no. Matt is the more skilled fighter, but Peter is SO MUCH his physical superior, that wont matter.

Pete spite stomps

Spiderman wins. 7/10 IMO.

Daredevil will never forget that post of yours. Traitor uhuh

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Who fares better against Cap?

Matt.

Against Hyde?

Matt.

Wolverine?

Matt.

Martial artists in general?

Matt, Matt, Matt.

http://i47.tinypic.com/voykhw.jpg

This is how the fight would go.

Spider-Man totally owned Hyde in like a few panels...

And I've seen him being nothing more than an annoyance to Hyde

Spiderman wins.

Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman wins.

Automatically proving Spidey supporters are wrong

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And I've seen him being nothing more than an annoyance to Hyde That's because you see the world through the eyes of a mad man.
Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman wins. NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Daredevil will never forget that post of yours. Traitor uhuh

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Who fares better against Cap?

Matt.

Against Hyde?

Matt.

Wolverine?

Matt.

Martial artists in general?

Matt, Matt, Matt.

And who does better against Fisk. Or Firelord.

Spidey struggling with martial artists is a trope from the Bruce Lee era.. Even in the 70,s, they made light of the trend by having Spidey get his head handed to him by nameless kung fu women in hostess fruit pie ads.

On feats, Spidey trumps Matt, and he's handled plenty of characters who would squash Matt like a bug.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
http://i47.tinypic.com/voykhw.jpg

This is how the fight would go.

Lol @ Matt's expression.

It's crazy how Spider-Man shoots webbing out his ear while sleeping.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
That's because you see the world through the eyes of a mad man.

No. Probably different fights.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Originally posted by cdtm
And who does better against Fisk. Or Firelord.

Against KP? Debatable. Spidey's best showing was when he was at his physical peak, post-Other upgrade.

I wish people would stop b!tching about Firelord. He's not even class 100, Galactus must've been really poor after Surfer left him to hire such losers.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Lol @ Matt's expression.

Pretty much like mine when I found that sketch

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Automatically proving Spidey supporters are wrong

tough to argue with that logic.

spidey..

Originally posted by ozz81
spidey..

Spidey can't win, carter made sure of that.

As a matter of fact, this thread can be closed now. Nothing more can be done.

Carver said Wolverine is his favorite comic character...that's auto lose for every thread Wolverine is in.

He likes Hulkie boy and Glads more.

Not according to him.

Pretty sure we know more about carvie than he does himself by now.

I hope not...

Originally posted by JayDaDon
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/5/52044/1544554-daredevil_spiderman_04_super.jpg

So what happens afer this? I suspect Matt doesn't just forfeit and call it a day.

No, he does.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, he does.

checkmate.

Originally posted by Mindset
No, he does. Don't you have someone to rape? Originally posted by leonidas
checkmate. Like this guy?

hmm, like is....not exactly the word i'd use. idolize? worship at the altar of? stop fighting it and join the movement. all the cool kids are doing it.