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match is hand to hand who wins?

Cap.

plz explain how

steve is just overall better. in every category. skills, stats, and experience. bronze may match him in skills (which is highly likely, but cap pretty much has him beat everywhere else). plus the obvious defense weapon, his shield. bronze is good, slightly better than batman, so steve will have to work for it.

its a hand to hand fight which means no shield.

cap still has the strength and speed advantage to win.

Is Cap in his suit(which is also armor)?

not sure but isent cap peak human?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
not sure but isent cap peak human?
Technically. But in reality he's portrayed as being superior to other "peak humans" and has feats that many of them can't touch(like being able to run about 60MPH).

Originally posted by thanos-prime
not sure but isent cap peak human?

yup , isn't bromze tiger normal human

Originally posted by thanos-prime
not sure but isent cap peak human?

No he's at the peak evolutionary stage of humanity - physically, but he's Super Human.

Thats - Marvel Super human
DC - Peak

im pretty sure bronze is as well

could very well be, i don't know a huge amount about BT, but if he's up there with Bruce/Cassy/Shiva physically then thats would put him in the Super Human catagory on a marvel Scale and a Peak on on a DC.

sO YEAH, he might be.

so if he is up there with them and just as good a fighter if not better than the ones you named i think he will win

Bronze hasn't shown anything that puts him at caps level in stats. Unless you have an instance or scan. I have most of Ostrander's run and have read most of his appearances.

he may not need better or equal stats since he is arguably the better fighter.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
he may not need better or equal stats since he is the better fighter
Based on what?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Based on what? forgot a word

I can see them being around the same in terms of skills. here is bronze beating batman down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Batwomandeath.jpg

wouldn't that make him better people say cap is equal to bats in skill all the time and batman cant beat him only stalemate or lose

Originally posted by thanos-prime
forgot a word
Ah, cool.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
I can see them being around the same in terms of skills. here is bronze beating batman down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Batwomandeath.jpg
Not bad. I mean BT won the exchange, but surprising someone with a kick to the mid section is more of a show of speed than skill. I'm not saying that BT doesn't have other feats that give a better demonstration of his skill though, just that it's tough to gauge by that scan alone.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Ah, cool.

Not bad. I mean BT won the exchange, but surprising someone with a kick to the mid section is more of a show of speed than skill. I'm not saying that BT doesn't have other feats that give a better demonstration of his skill though, just that it's tough to gauge by that scan alone.

found a couple more in a respect thread. what do you think?

http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b02.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b03q.jpg

Bronze Tiger.

Originally posted by Juk3n
No he's at the peak evolutionary stage of humanity - physically, but he's Super Human.

Thats - Marvel Super human
DC - Peak

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cap is peak human, and so is bronge tiger by the description you ahev said

are you saying peak in dc is different to in marvel?

my idea was that cap powers is = deathstrokes

as tehya re both above normal and strong as 10 men

Originally posted by Prep-Man
found a couple more in a respect thread. what do you think?

http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b02.jpg
http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=b03q.jpg
Very impressive. I mean they seem a little old and I'm sure Bat's has learned a few more tricks since then(course BT probably has too) but it's definitely a noteworthy showing. Did they ever finish that fight?

Originally posted by ankur29
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my idea was that cap powers is = deathstrokes


slade is an established meta-human, and even though cap could be considered slightly above many peak humans......he's not at that level.