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Scenario: Hal gives Steve a Blue Ring and spends a year training him in the ways of the Lantern and whatnot. Over the time they become friends and gain a new level of respect for each other. On their last day together Hal challenges him to a friendly match.

Neither combatant are going all out, and they're both battling in character so no killing, cheating, crushing them with a bubble.

Steve gets his shield.

Hal lets Steve win because he would feel bad for beating the American dream

it be a close fight, but hal would overcome Steve cause of more experience with the ring.

Originally posted by jalek moye
Hal lets Steve win because he would feel bad for beating the American dream

steve is dead. hall wins

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
steve is dead. hall wins

Literally dead?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
steve is dead. hall wins

Who's Hall ? Anyway Hal wins this through experience

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
steve is dead. hall wins
Did you just say that Steve died and went to hell?

Yeah who is Hall ??

Steve won`t match Hal with just one year of training. Not even in a friendly match.

Hal.

this would be a LONG match, as both rings would be constantly charging each other.

but hal eventually wins.

Steve's blue ring makes Hal stronger the longer they fight. Steve makes Hal more powerful due to the presence of a blue ring. He's actually helping his opponent win!!!

Originally posted by jalek moye
Hal lets Steve win because he would feel bad for beating the American dream

Hal wouldn't feel bad for beating anything

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/HalBeatingCarol.jpg
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s132/Erik_Magnus_Lensherr/HalBeatingCarol1.jpg

That's just how he rolls.

^ funny considering what star sapphires went on to do, maybe he should have smacked her harder, and katma would still be alive.

Edit: Maybe too gross.

Originally posted by Galan007
hal eventually wins.

Just out of interest why would Hal win? I cant say that would Steve would win but y'know im just so not suprised that Hal was voted the winner by some people.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Just out of interest why would Hal win? I cant say that would Steve would win but y'know im just so not suprised that Hal was voted the winner by some people.
Because he is one of the greatest Green Lanterns ever, a yea of training wouldnt be enough to beat him

Originally posted by jalek moye
a yea of training wouldnt be enough to beat him

fair enough.

Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater .

i just can't see steve training for a single year overcoming hal's decades-long experience. *shrug*

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater .

I was actually consdiering that point but I couldnt think of any examples of other GLs who learnt quickly.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Cap wins. Kyle hit greatness fairly quickly thanks to the imagination that accompanies being a talented artist, right? Well Cap's also an artist and has a peak human brain that allows him to learn faster than most. He's led Quasar in the field plenty of times so he's already familiar with many of the ways constructs can be useful in combat, and his will/hope probably equals Hal when he STARTS training, let alone after working with the ring for a year.

Hal gets his clock cleaned with an American Flag shaped construct for being a woman beater .

kyle sucked at the beginning. there were months and months of stories where he's wondering if he's ever going to shake off the hal jordan stigma. he was good, sure, and he did well in the league, but greatness? that took a bit longer, iirc.

Originally posted by Galan007
i just can't see steve training for a single year overcoming hal's decades-long experience. *shrug*
Kang noted that (at least in regards to new forms of fighting) Cap learned in days what others took years to master. Besides Cap always wins, that's just the way it is .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Kang noted that (at least in regards to new forms of fighting) Cap learned in days what others took years to master. Besides Cap always wins, that's just the way it is .

There are also examples of him learning things and being a pro in a short period of time.

Originally posted by -Pr-
kyle sucked at the beginning. there were months and months of stories where he's wondering if he's ever going to shake off the hal jordan stigma. he was good, sure, and he did well in the league, but greatness? that took a bit longer, iirc.
Kyle floundered at first because he was all alone and was having to teach himself the ropes of being a lantern. If he'd had someone like Hal training him I doubt it would have taken anywhere near that long.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Kyle floundered at first because he was all alone and was having to teach himself the ropes of being a lantern. If he'd had someone like Hal training him I doubt it would have taken anywhere near that long.

that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...
It's like Nick Fury pointed out when Cap used his shield to take down a missile that had already taken off, when Cap sets his mind to doing something, it gets done(and that was without a ring) .

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's like Nick Fury pointed out when Cap used his shield to take down a missile that had already taken off, when Cap sets his mind to doing something, it gets done(and that was without a ring) .

you could say the same thing about hal, you know...

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's probably true, but kyle still had plenty of issues. plus, hal is considered the daddy of all lanterns for a reason. it isn't just training that makes him what he is. hell, according to his origin, he didn't even follow his own training that much.

just don't see cap toppling that with barely a year...

So the Daddy of all Lanterns putting the Daddy of Courage, Honor, and Bravery through the most rigorous training ever?

Has Hal blocked or took the American dream shield to the face?

Originally posted by -Pr-
you could say the same thing about hal, you know...
Yeah but that's WITH the ring. It could be said about ANYONE who has a GL ring. Point is, Cap doesn't need the ring to gain the trait .

Originally posted by darthgoober
Yeah but that's WITH the ring. It could be said about ANYONE who has a GL ring. Point is, Cap doesn't need the ring to gain the trait .

it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
So the Daddy of all Lanterns putting the Daddy of Courage, Honor, and Bravery through the most rigorous training ever?

Has Hal blocked or took the American dream shield to the face?

hal would catch it and toss it back.

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out.

You got "ringless" feats to back that up ?

Originally posted by darthgoober
You got "ringless" feats to back that up ?

to back up what? willpower? courage? bravery? (thanks wei)

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's not, actually. hal is that good, he just doesn't have that handy sss to help him out.



hal would catch it and toss it back.

Tahaha...oh wait...

Originally posted by -Pr-
to back up what? willpower? courage? bravery? (thanks wei)
His being "that good".

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Tahaha...oh wait...



Originally posted by darthgoober
His being "that good".

you want me to show all hal's positive qualities without the ring, even though having the ring has no bearing on those same actual qualities?

Originally posted by -Pr-
you want me to show all hal's positive qualities without the ring, even though having the ring has no bearing on those same actual qualities?
No, I want you to show Hal being able to do anything he sets his mind to without the ring .

9 times out of 10 regardless of the topic, if you want to be right all you have to say is "Captain America wins".

Yo.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, I want you to show Hal being able to do anything he sets his mind to without the ring .

9 times out of 10 regardless of the topic, if you want to be right all you have to say is "Captain America wins".

yea, but thats only said when U have no evidence and simply want Cap to win......






Tazer

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, I want you to show Hal being able to do anything he sets his mind to without the ring .

9 times out of 10 regardless of the topic, if you want to be right all you have to say is "Captain America wins".

Hal was never reduced to this:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mvpizzazz05.jpg

he wins.

Linda Ronstadt ain't bad.


Cap has more hope and mental discipline than Hal has willpower and mental discipline, IMO. Cap takes it.

Hal wins

Originally posted by -Pr-
Hal was never reduced to this:

http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/mvpizzazz05.jpg

he wins.
The band wouldn't have Hal, he'd have jumped at the chance to join if they'd let him.

Yo.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The band wouldn't have Hal, he'd have jumped at the chance to join if they'd let him.

Hal wouldnt even want to join; he'd simply be after Linda anyways.

and he'd get her too, cuz thats how he rolls.




Tazer

Oh, I didn't know Linda was a tranny.

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, I didn't know Linda was a tranny.

My favorite kind of woman. Jumpy

Yo.

Originally posted by Mindset
Oh, I didn't know Linda was a tranny.

prolly not, but look at Cap; apparently.......he did.






Tazer

He's not looking at her.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
Looks like he slapped her breasts in the last one.


That looks like the classic trailer park beatdown right there. That chick got bitchslapped for not havin' Hal's dinner ready on time..lol

Yo.

Originally posted by Mindset
He's not looking at her.

no he's not, he's looking @ Doc; however that smile on his face which he's giving Doc says he's hoping to make him part of a "3-sausage sandwich", which kinda says something about Cap, but hey.......






Tazer

wtf. . .

Originally posted by Enyalus
Linda Ronstadt ain't bad.


Cap has more hope and mental discipline than Hal has willpower and mental discipline, IMO. Cap takes it.



Originally posted by darthgoober
The band wouldn't have Hal, he'd have jumped at the chance to join if they'd let him.

hal didn't have the time anyways, he was too busy saving the universe...

Originally posted by jalek moye
Hal lets Steve win because he would feel bad for beating the American dream
Honestly, Hal is an american hero too.

Sure Steve is also an artist, but his imagination isn't that great. Have you heard his speeches; always the same ol' thing over and over again.

Still, one year of training is enough for Cap if the writer is American - not nearly enough training if the writer is from any other country.

Originally posted by FOOM
Sure Steve is also an artist, but his imagination isn't that great. Have you heard his speeches; always the same ol' thing over and over again.



facepalm

Originally posted by darthgoober
9 times out of 10 regardless of the topic, if you want to be right all you have to say is "Captain America wins".


Does that one time come out of when he lost Civil War?

He lost before it even started.

He was winning the fight from Civil War #7 before he gave up though.

Yo.

Originally posted by FOOM
Still, one year of training is enough for Cap if the writer is American - not nearly enough training if the writer is from any other country.






Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.








Tazer


Ok it just seems weird that they would have anybody from another country writing a Captain America story...