martial arts tournament

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chomperx9
team 1 SHANG CHI and BATMAN
team 2 ELEKTRA and DEADPOOL



both teams fight eachother in the ring H2H fight only. no weapons allowed in the fight and no TP and no healing

12 round fight


judges decide who wins based off of points any time someone hits another opponent they get a point.

so which team would get the most points after 12 rounds ?

or do you think one of the teams wouldnt last 12 rounds ?

Battlehammer
this is pretty unfair, you took elektra TP, but allowed Shang-chi to keep his chi amping

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
this is pretty unfair, you took elektra TP, but allowed Shang-chi to keep his chi amping H2H fight which means no powers in any way

Battlehammer
Team one stomps it.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
H2H fight which means no powers in any way
h2h does not mean there no chi amping. It means the fight h2h.



if there no chi amping allowed team one still wins, even though elektra can hang with either batman or shang-chi in h2h skill, DP can't.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
h2h does not mean there no chi amping. It means the fight h2h.



if there no chi amping allowed team one still wins, even though elektra can hang with either batman or shang-chi in h2h skill, DP can't. ok fine to make it fair no chi amping. and DP cant ? WTF you talking about hes a class 10 fighter like the rest of em

Mindset
Originally posted by chomperx9
WTF you talking about hes a class 10 fighter like the rest of em Class 10 fighter?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
ok fine to make it fair no chi amping. and DP cant ? WTF you talking about hes a class 10 fighter like the rest of em
there no such thing in marvel as a class 10 fighter, it goes to 7, and deadpool not even a 7.


DP in MA skill is not on par with theses three.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Mindset
Class 10 fighter? well then where would you rank him as a fighter ?

Digi
A tournament with 4 people? Small tourney.

Mindset
What is a class 10 fighter?

Battlehammer
Originally posted by Digi
A tournament with 4 people? Small tourney.

it not even really a tournament, it should be called a match sinces it one fight two on two.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
well then where would you rank him as a fighter ?

marvel ranks him at 5 or 6.


I would rank him 2nd tier, he skill, but not as skilled as top tiers.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
there no such thing in marvel as a class 10 fighter, it goes to 7, and deadpool not even a 7.


DP in MA skill is not on par with theses three. his martial arts isnt as high as the rest of them but hes got his own streel level fighting technique. and if you read the begining you get points by hitting another opponent doesnt have to be some kung fu move or something. free style fighting pretty much

chomperx9
Originally posted by Digi
A tournament with 4 people? Small tourney. those 2 teams are the finalist

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
his martial arts isnt as high as the rest of him but hes got his own streel level fighting technique. and if you read the begining you get points by hitting another opponent doesnt have to be some kung fu move or something. free style fighting pretty much
dude he not as skilled as them period.



Yes and he not going to hit them as much, hell his styles the worst in many ways for this match up, he tends to get hit a lot and vs more skilled opponents he going to be hit a lot, and with out his HF he goping to get knocked out.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
dude he not as skilled as them period.



Yes and he not going to hit them as much, hell his styles the worst in many ways for this match up, he tends to get hit a lot and vs more skilled opponents he going to be hit a lot, and with out his HF he goping to get knocked out. man since when does deadpool get underestimated i see him kick ass in every comic ive read with him.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
man since when does deadpool get underestimated i see him kick ass in every comic ive read with him.
No one underrating him your just vastly overrating him. His skill in fighting is not on par with the rest of this group, he almost always relies on his HF to win fights, with out it they dropp him. How about you post two examples of him beating top tier fighters with out needing his healing factor to win?

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
No one underrating him your just vastly overrating him. His skill in fighting is not on par with the rest of this group, he almost always relies on his HF to win fights, with out it they dropp him. How about you post two examples of him beating top tier fighters with out needing his healing factor to win? i dont have any books without his healing factor but wolverine has lasted before without his healing.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
i dont have any books without his healing factor but wolverine has lasted before without his healing.

You dont get it. He can still have his healing factor but he needs feats inwhich he takes on top tier guys with out needing it. Wolverine has shown that he can take it to top tier fighters with out resorting to his healing factor, something DP has not shown.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
You dont get it. He can still have his healing factor but he needs feats inwhich he takes on top tier guys with out needing it. Wolverine has shown that he can take it to top tier fighters with out resorting to his healing factor, something DP has not shown. alright fine il replace DP with wolverine no healing factor and no adamantium skeleton. will that make it fair ?

Battlehammer
Yes assuming each individual has time to get uses to the change and wolverine cant uses his claws, then it be a pretty closes fight.

chomperx9
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Yes assuming each individual has time to get uses to the change and wolverine cant uses his claws, then it be a pretty closes fight. no adamantium skeleton = no claws as well

Battlehammer
Originally posted by chomperx9
no adamantium skeleton = no claws as well
No it does not, he has bone claws.

Mindset
His claws are in his gloves dummy, duh! dur

grimify
Originally posted by Mindset
What is a class 10 fighter?

Lyoto Machida

chomperx9
Originally posted by Mindset
What is a class 10 fighter? RYU

Mindset
Originally posted by grimify
Lyoto Machida Greg Jackson says he has holes!

Konton
With the original stipulations, team 1 for the heavy majority.
Elektra does well, but her craptastic partner screws her over.


With Wolverine replacing DP, I think team 2 would win 7-8/10.

Mindset
Originally posted by Konton
With the original stipulations, team 1 for the heavy majority.
Elektra does well, but her craptastic partner screws her over.


I'm willing to bet you don't actually know that much about Deadpool's hth skills.

Konton
Originally posted by Mindset
I'm willing to bet you don't actually know that much about Deadpool's hth skills.

*shrug*
I know in most of his fights he relies heavily on his HF.

Mindset
Are you sure about that?

Konton
Originally posted by Mindset
Are you sure about that?

Do you really care about my opinion?

Mindset
No, not at all.

Konton
Originally posted by Mindset
No, not at all.

I'll just leave it at that.

-Pr-
Team 1 for a healthy majority, imo.

using the stips on page 1, anyways.

SamZED
Originally posted by Battlehammer
You dont get it. He can still have his healing factor but he needs feats inwhich he takes on top tier guys with out needing it. Wolverine has shown that he can take it to top tier fighters with out resorting to his healing factor, something DP has not shown.
How about Bullseye? Taskmaster? He kicked their asses. Several times and not thanks to his hf but because of his fighting skills. Stalemated Iron Fist twice. Has impressive h2h showings against Wolverine. I dont care what he's rated by Marvel, he's easilly on the same level as the rest fighters in this thread. The reason he so often relies on his hf to win the fights is because its funnier that way. The guy's crazy, he'd let you stab him just to tell a joke about it.

Battlehammer
Originally posted by SamZED
How about Bullseye? Taskmaster? He kicked their asses. Several times and not thanks to his hf but because of his fighting skills. Stalemated Iron Fist twice. Has impressive h2h showings against Wolverine. I dont care what he's rated by Marvel, he's easilly on the same level as the rest fighters in this thread. The reason he so often relies on his hf to win the fights is because its funnier that way. The guy's crazy, he'd let you stab him just to tell a joke about it.
what bulleye fight have you been reading.......becuase he had his throat slit by a straw in one, and he msot certainly needed his healing factor then, and in another he got shot through the head with an arrow........and the other time he had to resort to using a meat shield and bulleye job crazxy........not that bulleye a top tier to begin with.


Taskmaster? he been stabbed in almost every single on of there fights........

stalemated IF? he got kneed in the face, if he did not have a healing factor he would have been dropped........

wolverine? They had only one h2h fight, and deadpool used a knife and still was a the losing end. As for melee encounters wolverien almost every time is on the winning end, the only reason DP even take shim on is that wolverine either missing a healing factor, or deadpool has one sided prep and has weapons designed to take wolverine out.

dont make excuses. Wolverine relies on his healing a lot, but has has legitment feats to place him in top tier DP miost certainly does not.

SamZED
Originally posted by Battlehammer
what bulleye fight have you been reading.......becuase he had his throat slit by a straw in one, and he msot certainly needed his healing factor then, and in another he got shot through the head with an arrow........and the other time he had to resort to using a meat shield and bulleye job crazxy........not that bulleye a top tier to begin with. Yeah Wade got shot by an arrow because he understimated Bullseye, but we're talking about fighting skills here, and before that arrow Deadpool was completely beating the crap outta Bullseye, hell in the next issue Bullseye couldnt last against Wade in h2h for few seconds, it was a onesided beating, Bullseye had to kick Wade in the nuts and run away to survive the fight.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Taskmaster? he been stabbed in almost every single on of there]

He got stabbed when his hands and legs were cuffed together. In their first fight Taskmaster almost cried. Yes Wade got injured at first, Taskmaster's been monitoring him for like an hour before the fight, but once Wade realised he's facing a dangerous oponent he completely owned him in a fight and he didn't need his hf to do that. Hell even Agent X kicked Taskmaster's ass because he got Wade's fighting skills.
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Originally posted by Battlehammer

stalemated IF? he got kneed in the face, if he did not have a healing factor he would have been dropped........ What the f**k? based on what? He duct taped an I-POD to IF's back during the fight, if he wanted to kill him that could've been a bomb or even a knife. He fought IF twice and it always was close with both landing the same amount of hits.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

wolverine? They had only one h2h fight, and deadpool used a knife and still was a the losing end. As for melee encounters wolverien almost every time is on the winning end, the only reason DP even take shim on is that wolverine either missing a healing factor, or deadpool has one sided prep and has weapons designed to take wolverine out. ok now that is just false. Wolverine only really beat Deadpool ONCE, and Deadpool just had his head reattached at the time, barely got any time to heal so that's far from a fair fight. And DP fought Wolverine h2h more than once. Once in origin, when Wade stopped trying to get Logan in his traps they both prepared for a h2h fight, they each landed two hits, then DP stopped fighting and started telling some stopping joke to win some time before the bomb got activated. In that fight you were talking about Deadpool did have a knife but he DIDN'T USE it even though he had the chance. Also there was another fight in the next issue with Deadpool landing 3 hits in a raw without getting hit once before getting interrupted. And as for non h2h fights when DP fought boneclaw Wolverine he didn't have the prep and didn't have any special weapons and Logan was far from a winning end in that fight.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

dont make excuses. Wolverine relies on his healing a lot, but has has legitment feats to place him in top tier DP miost certainly does not. He most certanly does, im not making excuses, it is you simply ignoring facts for some reasons. hf or not DP on many occasions proved that he's on the same level as anyone else in this thread. Stop trying to use his hf factor to prove a point, the fact that he gets injured often doesnt mean anything. Wolverine without the hf would've been dead a long time ago but that doesn't mean we should downplay his fighting skills, same with DP.

Enyalus
While what Sam said is pretty much true, Batman's still better. And without his HF or weapons, he and Elektra don't take this.

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