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They go all out and no interference

WCP wins. Mad Jim is limited by his imagination, if he was say....smart he would stalemate.

What are you talking about? Jim Jaspers is a technological genius.

Phoenix.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=437132&pagenumber=1

jaspers

phoenix could possibly win if she teleported jaspers to the WHR, and vaporized him there - though, there's no guarantee that'd work.

jaspers replaced eternity
eternity>Phoenix

Originally posted by gobstakid777
jaspers replaced eternity
eternity>Phoenix

And WPC held Eternity in her hand.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What are you talking about? Jim Jaspers is a technological genius.

He has no imagination though. Just look at his fight with the Fury, he could have just made him not exist, instead he turned him into a ball....LOL

MJJ has no imagination and can't warp where there is no reality. The WHR is not a reality, Phoenix takes him there and decapitates him.

Japers at least 7/10

Originally posted by Nihilist
Japers at least 7/10

With his stupidity?

Originally posted by Peterlane
With his stupidity? His power far outweighs his so called "stupidity".

Jean as POTWC is still just an avatar of the force itself. The force itself beats jaspers...though i think he could take a slight majority of POTWC..due to lack of feats on jeans behalf.

Originally posted by SuperEvil
Jean as POTWC is still just an avatar of the force itself. The force itself beats jaspers...though i think he could take a slight majority of POTWC..due to lack of feats on jeans behalf. How iyo does POTWC win.

Originally posted by Peterlane
He has no imagination though. Just look at his fight with the Fury, he could have just made him not exist, instead he turned him into a ball....LOL

MJJ has no imagination and can't warp where there is no reality. The WHR is not a reality, Phoenix takes him there and decapitates him. How is the WHR not a reality?

Jamie Braddock warped it.

Originally posted by Mindset
How is the WHR not a reality?

Jamie Braddock warped it. That's what i was gonna say

MJJ wins the majority.

3. Mad Jim Jaspers of Earth 616
(Earth 238 Jaspers was weaker, and he made his one Universe)

According to Merlin, if this madman was not stopped, "the entire OMNI-VERSE would have fallen into Chaos"

"This version of Jaspers is too Powerful"

Jaspers had his own Universe that he created


"He is lonely, but he is GOD"


Jim, creating beings out of the soil in his Universe

Originally posted by the Darkone
3. Mad Jim Jaspers of Earth 616
(Earth 238 Jaspers was weaker, and he made his one Universe)

According to Merlin, if this madman was not stopped, "the entire OMNI-VERSE would have fallen into Chaos"

"This version of Jaspers is too Powerful"

Jaspers had his own Universe that he created


"He is lonely, but he is GOD"


Jim, creating beings out of the soil in his Universe Stating that the omniverse would have fallen into chaos is the most obvious form of hyperbole there is.

Do you really think the events in that marvel comic book would have effected this reality? Or DCs comics? Or Archie comics for that matter?

Would we have seen any effects in any other fictional medium outside of Marvel's Megaverse?

No, we wouldn't have. Therefore saying the OMNIVERSE... is obvious hyperbole.

EVERYBODY LISTEN N LISTEN GOOD.

Jean being the WPOC means she is one with the phoenix.

Jaspers wins.

Originally posted by the Darkone
MJJ wins the majority.

It's funny that other than GS no one even tries to back up Phoenix.

id used to

xplosive does too

MJJ is a omniverse threat, even Merilyn can't defeat him using the Celestial nullifier didn't even phase him, and it erases universe.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425758

#3 MJJ


#9 White Crown Phoenix

A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Originally posted by the Darkone
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425758

#3 MJJ


#9 White Crown Phoenix

Yeh because that is 100% true and fact, right

Originally posted by Mindset
A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Go through the whole thread, there is much evidence for all the characters on there it will take some time.


MJJ is omniverse wrecker, WCP hasn't really hasn't done anything yet, I said yet.

Originally posted by Mindset
A fan made ranking isn't exactly proof.

Originally posted by Mindset



evidence how powerful certain characters are! The site has proof unless you want to show some of your own.

Missing the point.

Originally posted by Mindset
id used to

xplosive does too


I still do.

Marvel is very inconsistent with Phoenix Force. I mean EMP blowing it in pieces. It's a joke. I don't take it seriously, although it's a canon. Then you have Dark Phoenix mentioned that rivals Galactus and in the end Watcher clearly say Dark Phoenix was only second to the creator.
Then again you have low showings and high showings.
You also have Galactus seeing that seemingly could erase Phoenix Force from existence, which I think its crap.
In Ultimate Universe Phoenix Force is said that is the one that created life, universe, sun, stars, planets in it... That was also more times mentioned in 616 by being the big bang. You have Phoenix Force mentioned as a big bang by Reed Richards. Watcher also said that Phoenix Force is the fire the ignites the creation and the final fire that consumes it. Then comes here Alien Entity.
Probably writers themselves are confused by Phoenix Force.
And Phoenixes Forces in other universes are just one infinitely small pieces of the full Phoenix Force that have its job in that universe, that's why different hosts from different universes in White Hot Room. It seems that Jean Grey, White Phoenix of the Crown is the full Phoenix Force and its full power.

And you have WPOTC that it seems can easily manipulate with universes.

I don't know what would happen between MJJ and Pheonix Force. Many will say MJJ will win. I would like to say Phoenix Force wins, but MJJ was enormous power. But I think if needed that Phoenix Force is one of those who could take MJJ out.

Originally posted by Peterlane
He has no imagination though. Just look at his fight with the Fury, he could have just made him not exist, instead he turned him into a ball....LOL

I'm going to assume by this that you'd didn't read the story.

MJJ blinks the PF out of existence.

Then re-makes his own PF to warm up his marshmellows.

Phoenix (any version/incarnation) has no chance in hell against MJJ (238 or 616)

Originally posted by Mr Master
MJJ blinks the PF out of existence.

Then re-makes his own PF to warm up his marshmellows.

Phoenix (any version/incarnation) has no chance in hell against MJJ (238 or 616)

hmm so MJJ is that powerful huh?
how do you think he would do against Abraxas?

Originally posted by galactusischere

hmm so MJJ is that powerful huh?
Yes.
Originally posted by galactusischere

how do you think he would do against Abraxas?
Abraxas is the conceptual manifestation of an abstract idea in physical form, (destruction)
MJJ remakes concepts for breakfast.

The LT may be the only concept outside his power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

Abraxas is the conceptual manifestation of an abstract idea in physical form, (destruction)
MJJ remakes concepts for breakfast.

The LT may be the only concept outside his power.

really doesn't make sense how a mere mutant has powers greater than abstracts that are each billions of years old.

I agree though

Read X-Men: Forever and Beyond! that'll help you understand.

Phoenix for the stomp

Originally posted by Mr Master
Yes.

Abraxas is the conceptual manifestation of an abstract idea in physical form, (destruction)
MJJ remakes concepts for breakfast.

The LT may be the only concept outside his power. lol

MJJ wins.

Here we go with misusing terms again. Shame that goblin thread got locked.

But since omni means all and -verse is derived from universe. Omniverse means "all universes"

Since DC has a universe, and tenchi muyo has a universe, they'd fall into the "all universes" they are part of the omniverse.

What would such a collection be called if not omniverse? omniomniverse?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Phoenix gets stomped here, undeniably.

Memebers aren't sold on that,
members are convinced when they realize
Matrix/Merlyn (who molded the life-force of the entire Omniverse,
created a pan-dimensional Reaity (Otherworld)
created the Starlight Citadel (an Omniversal Nexus)
created the Celestial Nullifier (able to erase any Universe in the Omniverse)
was <<< MJJ

Yes, who gives a shit who did what to Universes,
when that's a fact.

On top of that, MJJ re-aaranged the 616 Reality,
while Phoenix messed with an alternate reality.

This is addressed right above.

616 or 238 MJJ FTW in a ridiculous stomp.

So cutting through the fat of this response. You basically affirm that MJJ did nothing more, then mess with one universe.

Good job, he did less their for he is the loser.

Originally posted by id369

So cutting through the fat of this response.
You basically affirm that MJJ did nothing more, then mess with one universe.

Good job, he did less their for he is the loser.
So cutting through the fat of my response.

Basically MJJ was far more powerful than a being (Matrix/Merlyn) who messed with ALL Universes.

Good job indeed in presenting the only loser here. (Phoenix)

MJJ's reality warping > Phoenix's.

Especially taking into account Jaime being able to warp the White Hot Room, and Phoenix's low feats with the Shi'ar black hole weapons and EMPs, etc.

MJJ takes this.

how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?
Better question: how many different ways have you already phrased this question in other threads?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

how powerfull wuz MJJ at the time he fight the fury? universal? multiversal?
MJJ was always Omniversal,
he simply never got a chance to spread his power across the Omniverse.
(because he was stopped by his personal plot device .. the Fury)

It's not like the silly examples used here concerning "potential" with cable or whoever,
MJJ was more powerful than Matrix/Merlyn,
and Matrix/Merlyn molded the life force of the entire Omniverse.

So, regardless of what MJJ did (in terms of affecting universes)
it's really inconsequential,
because in the end,
Matrix/Merlyn who DID manipulate the entire Omniverse,
was beneath MJJ's power.

I mean, is this a pissing contests (who messed with more universes?)

or ... is this a freakin battle/fight/war (who is more powerful?)

You can answer that yourself good friend, and you'll come up with the only possibility (MJJ)

Originally posted by Mr Master
So cutting through the fat of my response.

Basically MJJ was far more powerful than a being (Matrix/Merlyn) who messed with ALL Universes.

Good job indeed in presenting the only loser here. (Phoenix)
Heh.abccoffee

Come on, you can do better. Do you have a better response? Petty replies, do vary little to cover the Jaspers shortcomings.

k but dint they say his power increase "exponantialy" or somethin?

so if he wuz allready omniversal then it means he wuz gonna become more then omniversal? so whats bigger then omniversal?

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

k but dint they say his power increase "exponantialy" or somethin?

so if he wuz allready omniversal then it means he wuz gonna become more then omniversal? so whats bigger then omniversal?
His power doesn't increase,
his warp (the area affected by his power) is what expands exponentially.

See, now you won't need to throw in a smilie anymore.

For the last time:

238 Jaspers (far weaker than 616 Jaspers)
was more powerful than Matrix/Merlyn.

Matrix/Merlyn molded the life-force of the entire Omniverse,
while 238 Jaspers molded one Universe.

This means from the very start,
MJJ 238 was more powerful than a being that was Omniversal.

Nuff said.

Originally posted by Mr Master
His power doesn't increase,
his warp (the area affected by his power) is what expands exponentially.

See, now you won't need to throw in a smilie anymore. dat confused smilie


k so if MJJ wanted destroy all o omniverse with a snap (like mxy) he could of done it?



btw in 1 panel MJJ was on Merlins chessboard
but if MJJ was allready omniversal then hows that possible? (unless its only MJJ238 i dont remeber now )

What happened to MJJ 238 I forgot did the Fury killed him?

Originally posted by the Darkone
What happened to MJJ 238 I forgot did the Fury killed him?

The Celestial Nullifer took care of him.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Here we go with misusing terms again. Shame that goblin thread got locked.

But since omni means all and -verse is derived from universe. Omniverse means "all universes"

Since DC has a universe, and tenchi muyo has a universe, they'd fall into the "all universes" they are part of the omniverse.

What would such a collection be called if not omniverse? omniomniverse?

Good god man, what the hell is wrong with you?

MARVEL OMNIVERSE MEANS ALL (OMNI) UNIVERSES (VERSE) WITHIN MARVEL.

What are you not getting?

http://marvel.com/universe/Glossary:O#Omniverse

That's a fan written bio Einstein.

Try again.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Good god man, what the hell is wrong with you?

MARVEL OMNIVERSE MEANS ALL (OMNI) UNIVERSES (VERSE) WITHIN MARVEL.

What are you not getting? Boy does your latin suck.

Verse does NOT mean "within marvel".

Omni means all, verse is a derivitive from universe.

Omniverse means all universes.

If it ain't all it ain't omni.

I don't get why you fail to understand something so simple.

Marvel is notorious for misusing words and phrases. this is no different.

Omniverse doesn't mean all universes in marvel. Nowhere in the syntax structure of the word or etymology of the words or meanings of the root words does the company marvel come into play.

It's really not a hard concept. Why don't you get it?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That's a fan written bio Einstein.

Try again. So I guess you don't listen to marvel either then?

Guess you can never use marvel.com as a reference either.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Boy does your latin suck.

Verse does NOT mean "within marvel".

Omni means all, verse is a derivitive from universe.

Omniverse means all universes.

If it ain't all it ain't omni.

I don't get why you fail to understand something so simple.

Marvel is notorious for misusing words and phrases. this is no different.

Omniverse doesn't mean all universes in marvel. Nowhere in the syntax structure of the word or etymology of the words or meanings of the root words does the company marvel come into play.

It's really not a hard concept. Why don't you get it?

::sigh:: it's literally like trying to describe something to a special needs child.

The entire Marvelverse is comprised of a near infinite number of universes right? What would ALL those universes combined be called? Yes, that's right, an omniverse.

Omni - All, Verse- Universe(s)

Originally posted by Creshosk
So I guess you don't listen to marvel either then?

Guess you can never use marvel.com as a reference either.

That's not Marvels definition. That's a fan definition. I know the guy who wrote those bios, he posts on the Marvel boards all the time.

Marvels definition of an omniverse can be found in the OHotMU. They define it as every single universe within the company.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
::sigh:: it's literally like trying to describe something to a special needs child. Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
The entire Marvelverse is comprised of a near infinite number of universes right? What would ALL those universes combined be called? Yes, that's right, an omniverse.

Omni - All, Verse- Universe(s) Right. and the DC universe is a universe. and the tenchi universe is a universe. and the simpsons universe is a universe...

By excluding those you are not using ALL the universes.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That's not Marvels definition. That's a fan definition. I know the guy who wrote those bios, he posts on the Marvel boards all the time. Did you know that Omjniverse is a term used in quantum mechanics outside of marvel?

In fact it was coined by a guy who was NOT using it only for marvel. He even wronte in this fanzine of his an article about what would happen if Howard the duck ever met scrouge mcDuck.

Since scrouge mcDuck is NOT a marvel property he did not intend for Omniverse to be limited to marvel.

There is nothing in the structure of the word that hints at marvel.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Marvels definition of an omniverse can be found in the OHotMU. They define it as every single universe within the company. Irrelivant. They did not coin the term nor do they have control of it, trademark or licencing rights to it.

They misused the word. Its really simple. they do it all the time.

Do you get it yet Or do I need to use smaller words?

Oh and I reported you for member bashing by the way.

Does it really matter?

Omniverse used in Marvel is referring to all the universes in their company.

I have a secret to tell you, fictional characters also can't truly be omnipotent either. See, omni means all, and potent means, I'll rape you in the showers.

Originally posted by Creshosk


Really? There's hope for you yet then.



It's a multiverse



That's nice.



Sure I am. None of those examples are in the Marvelverse. The Marvel omniverse is ALL the uniVERSEs that exsist within the Marvel company.



What exactly do you not get, seriously? I don't see how you can't grasp this simple concept.

Applying a real world theory to a fictional setting it beyond dumb.



Again i ask you to show me hardcore, credible evidence that says Omniverse HAS to encompass all companies. Methinks the only evidence you'll find are fan written bios.

Let me dangle an example in front of your face. Say a scientist proved w/o a doubt that there was an infinite number of parallel universes. What would you call it, a multiverse? megaverse? Is it less than an omniverse because it doesn't also include fictional universes?

Marvel Omniverse means all the universes that exsist within the company. Omni- All, Verse - Universe. Can I be more clear?

It's probably best that we put eachother on ignore because, beyond this, I can't think of anything except insulting your intelligence.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Really? There's hope for you yet then. Yeah I might convince you the truth of what an omniverse is.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It's a multiverse Which contains universes.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That's nice. I see ignoring my point then.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Sure I am. None of those examples are in the Marvelverse. The Marvel omniverse is ALL the uniVERSEs that exsist within the Marvel company.Except that the word doesn't say "marvel" in it.

http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Omniverse

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
What exactly do you not get, seriously? I don't see how you can't grasp this simple concept. Because its incorrect.

It's like trying to argue that a frog is a 6 foot tall purple cylindrical vegetable with human hands sprouting from one end and an unlimited amoutnt of fire shooting from the other.

That is NOT what a frog is.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Applying a real world theory to a fictional setting it beyond dumb. No it isn't. seeing as how things like gravity is a real world concept that we apply to fictional mediums, as is the concept of breathing and circulatory systems.

Real world concepts are found in fiction all the time.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Again i ask you to show me hardcore, credible evidence that says Omniverse HAS to encompass all companies. Methinks the only evidence you'll find are fan written bios. I've told you what the definition of the word is. I've told you how the word breaks apart. I've told you the meaning of the individual parts. Now I've linked you to the definition of the word outside of fictional content. Its a real word that they're using incorrectly.

Marvel doesn't have the rights to the word.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Let me dangle an example in front of your face. Say a scientist proved w/o a doubt that there was an infinite number of parallel universes. What would you call it, a multiverse? megaverse? Is it less than an omniverse because it doesn't also include fictional universes?already linked you a definition that states that'd be a multiverse.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Marvel Omniverse means all the universes that exsist within the company. Omni- All, Verse - Universe. Can I be more clear? And what part of the word omniverse means marvel?

Omni all
Verse universe.

If its NOT all it is not Omni,
http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/features/dictionary/DictionaryResults.aspx?refid=1861684649
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/omni-
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/omni?view=uk

Omniverse "all universes" If you exclude a single universe, say tenchi's or one of mickey mouses, onr one of marios..

Its not all... Do I have to explain to you what the word all means?

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It's probably best that we put eachother on ignore because, beyond this, I can't think of anything except insulting your intelligence. Which you have and have been reported for.

I'm not the one misusing real words. I'm not the one showing ignorance of multiple languages at the same time.

I love how we're supposed to find a contradictory definition to the incorrect usage, but can't use marvel.com, nor any real world sources. Or even definitions that predate marvel's faulty useage.

Marvel > real world

Stan Lee came up with the word omniverse.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah I might convince you the truth of what an omniverse is.

Except I'm not the one unable to understand simple concepts.



Many and when you add in Elseworlds, Wildstorm and Vertigo you get the DC omniverse. Definition: All the universes that exsist within the DC company.



I only acknowledge what's relevant. Since none of those universes belong to the Marvel company they are irrelevant.



That link doesn't support your argument at all. It says Mark Gruenwald is believed to have coined it and he coined it the first time during his run on Quasar.....a Marvel comic.



To one who doesn't understand the true definiton.



And they get bent and distorted in fiction all the time as well. Your problem is you think that since Marvel isn't using the real world defintion in their fictional universe they're hyperboling. They're not, when they use the term in a comic book, they're making reference to all the universes that exsist within the company.



How are they using it incorrectly. The true definition is as the word implies. All Universes.



A multiverse is a cluster of universes that have common traits. Earth-616 and all its branch universes is a multiverse.



Marvel Omniverse means All the universes within the Marvel company.



No, you're the one apply real world concepts to a fictional setting.

The argument started because in a comic book it was stated that a character had the potential to blink out the omniverse. Translation: He had the potential to blink out the entirety of Marvel. No hyperbole was commited.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Except I'm not the one unable to understand simple concepts. That's completely dishonest. As you're not understtanding a simple concept.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Many and when you add in Elseworlds, Wildstorm and Vertigo you get the DC omniverse. Definition: All the universes that exsist within the DC company. That's stupid. there's only one omniverse.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I only acknowledge what's relevant. Since none of those universes belong to the Marvel company they are irrelevant.except that you're ignoring the definition of omniverse. The correct one.

Omni means all. Verse means universe. Omniverse means all universes.

What would you call a collection of all the omniverses? The omniomniverse?

Seriously, that's ridiculous.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
That link doesn't support your argument at all. It says Mark Gruenwald is believed to have coined it and he coined it the first time during his run on Quasar.....a Marvel comic. Um, no. it was when he had his fanzine up and running.



So you ignore what's relevant and ignore whats's not.. nice.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
To one who doesn't understand the true definiton.Yes, that's who I'm speaking to, one who doesn't understand the true definition.. that'd be YOU.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
And they get bent and distorted in fiction all the time as well. Your problem is you think that since Marvel isn't using the real world defintion in their fictional universe they're hyperboling. They're not, when they use the term in a comic book, they're making reference to all the universes that exsist within the company. Which is a megaverse. Not an omniverse.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
How are they using it incorrectly. The true definition is as the word implies. All Universes. and then they exclude universes. when they say all, they dont' really mean all. So that means they're using the wrong word.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
A multiverse is a cluster of universes that have common traits. Earth-616 and all its branch universes is a multiverse. Look, he can be taught!

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Marvel Omniverse means All the universes within the Marvel company.Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No, you're the one apply real world concepts to a fictional setting. Yeah. imagine that.. things like gravity and blood and even Death. Those are real concepts which are applied by the writers.

The argument started because in a comic book it was stated that Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
a character had the potential to blink out the omniverse. Translation: He had the potential to blink out the entirety of Marvel. No hyperbole was commited. Except that it was never proven.

Inside Marvel, there are no other universes, except those which are Marvel's (non-canon crossovers excluded), that is why word 'omniverse' when used inside Marvelverse does not refer in any way to any other fictional and/or real universes, because there are no any other universes to refer, except those which are Marvel's (crossovers excluded).
When used, 'omniverse' only refers to all universes existing from the POV of one who is using the term. Yes, it effectively renders the term incorrect from the POV with greater amount of data, like ours, but that doesn't changes the meaning of what the term user was trying to adress.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Inside Marvel, there are no other universes, except those which are Marvel's (non-canon crossovers excluded), that is why word 'omniverse' when used inside Marvelverse does not refer in any way to any other fictional and/or real universes, because there are no any other universes to refer, except those which are Marvel's (crossovers excluded).
When used, 'omniverse' only refers to all universes existing from the POV of one who is using the term. Yes, it effectively renders the term incorrect from the POV with greater amount of data, like ours, but that doesn't changes the meaning of what the term user was trying to adress. Yeah. and I'm just saying the correct term is megaverse.

There's more than one megaverse.

Originally posted by Mindset
There's more than one megaverse. Yup. Which is why Marvel having their own megaverse makes sense.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Yeah. and I'm just saying the correct term is megaverse.
So, your point boils down to this:
"Thou should substitute the word 'omniverse' with word 'megaverse', unless... damn, i can't continue in the right style. Anyway, unless you mean all fictional and real universes and such crap."
Well, personally, i can live with that.

Also, since i do not recall any reality warping from Phoenix, i'd go with Jim. Fashion sense ftw.

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5104/stuffzc0.jpg
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6827/sfuff2uc4.jpg

That's made up.

Get that shit outta here!

Lol.

Originally posted by Mindset

That's made up.

Get that shit outta here!
Nah, it's real, but it's just deception at its finest simultaneously.

He's using the 2005 Glossary definition, which for that ONE entry/year
Marvel did join the club of allowing their Omniverse to be part of other companies.

What slicky up top won't show you,
is how Marvel got off that ban wagon the very next year,
and then clearly differentiated their Omniverse
from others in their UPDATED 2007 glossary of terms:
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1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/928/omni2mz6.jpg

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. "The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

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Unless TOAA Created DC the "real World" and all other verseS in other companies,
Marvel MUST have their own Omniverse.

***

Nice try with the OLD GLossary entry slicky.

SIX On Panel depictions of the Marvel Omniverse! (actually Illustrated)

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Earth X Trilogy - (2000)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9923/omni2cn6.th.jpg

"The Omniverse"

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Infinity Abyss - (2002)

http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/7376/adamgoesbtwnuniverses26zw.th.jpg

"An Infinity beyond Infinity"

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Exiles - (Mid 2007)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7536/omnipt3ri4.th.jpg

"I offer the Omniverse"

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X-Men Die by the Sword - (Late 2007)

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2121/68053692tt1.th.jpg

"Not long ago, the Omniverse was swept
by a Temporal Reality Wave of unimaginable power,
that literally tore the Continuum to bits and Re-arranged it"


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Exiles - (2008)

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/5937/87664947vw3.th.jpg

"Those lights we've been assuming was a star, just as we see from Earth,
they represent entire Dimensions.

I think that's a representation of the entire Omniverse,
we're looking at All Creation"


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Exiles (May 2008)

It seems in May 2008 these insane writers of the Exiles
(amongst others like X-Men, Quasar, Earth X, Infinity Abyss, Avengers, FF and Marvel Handbooks)
still think there's a Marvel Omniverse:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/530366_Omni.jpg

"Some heroes protect cities, some countries, some Worlds,
but who's looking out for the ENITRE Omniverse? ...

... One band of heroes shouldered the weight of ALL Possible UniverseS"

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This ain't just talk neither!

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Until we see an artistic representation On Panel of the Omniverse they're taling about,
the Omniverse they transcend and protect on the very next page: (same issue May 2008)

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/9108/omni2mt9.th.jpg

"Behold Crosstime ... perhaps more properly known as the Omniverse.

An Infinite number of conceptual Alternatives for All the Worlds of Creation,
we're LOOKING at the variations of SOL III, (Earth-616) better known as the planet Earth,
from this perspective, THIS World looks very much like our own"

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(Bio)

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(Official Marvel Handbook update - Winter 2007)

Spiderman Handbook - (Late 2007)


Core Continuum Designation

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2215/omni1ou4.th.jpg

"Numerical identification given to each Earth in the Omniverse"

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Here are a few examples of Marvel's Core Continuum DesignationS:


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"Crooked World - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-238"

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/9408/co1rx7hv1.th.jpg

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"2020 - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-8410"

http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3431/co2po4bu8.th.jpg

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"Earth A - Core Continuum Designation: Earth-721"

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5652/co3ke9sw1.th.jpg

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And thanks for making Marvel's hyperbole that much more obvious.

Sorry, but nothing that Marvel does would effect the omniverse. The actual omniverse that there is one of.

Marvel doesn't have their owen omniverse that's just stupid as there's only one omniverse and prepeated misuuse of a term is no justification for it.

It's hyperbole if you think it means the real omniverse.

Or are you saying we're not part of reality?

HA!

That's enough Cresh.

This thread is going nowhere fast.

Originally posted by illadelph12


That's enough Cresh. Sorry, its hard to resist continuelly correcting an incorrect useage.

I mean hell with this we should start accepting every little mistake that marvel writers make, as if it was everyone in marvel saying that. Storm can fly on solar winds! Woo!

Even though a solar wind is a discharge of superheated ionized particles from the sun

http://www.hko.gov.hk/education/edu05spacewx/images/solar_wind.jpg


That's okay, because even though that's not what was depicted, just because marvel said that's what was happening (because one writer didn't understand what a solar wind was) that must be what happened... And Spiderman? Totally kicked Firelord's ass, Marvel said so. excellent

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Originally posted by Creshosk
Sorry, its hard to resist continuelly correcting an incorrect useage.

I mean hell with this we should start accepting every little mistake that marvel writers make, as if it was everyone in marvel saying that. Storm can fly on solar winds! Woo!

Even though a solar wind is a discharge of superheated ionized particles from the sun


That's okay, because even though that's not what was depicted, just because marvel said that's what was happening (because one writer didn't understand what a solar wind was) that must be what happened... And Spiderman? Totally kicked Firelord's ass, Marvel said so. excellent
facepalm

I don't know, and/or care what this debate is all about, but Mr. Master loses by default for posting the dur smilies.

I love how mister master has to resort to what's already been questioned as if its viable evidence.

"Marvel misused a term."
"Here there are using the term!"

Yeah... way to go champ.

That ladies and gentlemen is what's known as circular reasoning. He's using what's being questioned as evidence to support that which is in question. superm

Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem? Better yet how is that relevant in this Vs match?

Why this argue about Omniverse. When Mr Master says Omniverse, if the debate is with marvel characters, he means Omniverse as all universes, dimensions in Marvel Universe.
Anyway, Phoenix Force stomps.

Originally posted by kgkg

Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem?
Originally posted by Xplosive

Why this argue about Omniverse.

When Mr Master says Omniverse,
if the debate is with marvel characters,
he means Omniverse as all universes, dimensions in Marvel Universe.



Not to mention friends, that Marvel specifically made it clear,
On Panel and in Handbooks:

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1. Omniverse

2. One Above All

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/928/omni2mz6.jpg

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

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On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

(here's Marvel Comics yet AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER arc, telling us what their Reality is)

http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2048776_omni3py5.jpg

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

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* If anyone has any on panel/handbook proof depicting Marvel as a single Megaverse,
(before or after 2005)
please post it,
if not,
there's absolutely NO counter to this post.

Actually, Marvel Comics has NEVER EVER depicted,
stated
or even alluded to the idea on panel that it's a single Megaverse.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Sorry, its hard to resist continuelly correcting an incorrect useage.

I mean hell with this we should start accepting every little mistake that marvel writers make, as if it was everyone in marvel saying that. Storm can fly on solar winds! Woo!

Even though a solar wind is a discharge of superheated ionized particles from the sun
facepalm It's fiction. Break down the Latin root word there, please.

Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it.

Obviously, the term 'omniverse' means exactly what you say. And the term 'Marvel Omniverse' means exactly what Mr. Master and Knowsbleed says.

Originally posted by kgkg
Lets not quibble over semantics.

If by Omniverse Mr Master means only marvel than what's the problem? Better yet how is that relevant in this Vs match?

Exactly. the continued "debate" over something so irrelevant is hilarious.

Originally posted by Enyalus
facepalm It's fiction. Break down the Latin root word there, please. Okay. fictio: act of fashioning

Originally posted by Enyalus
Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it. Red herring.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Obviously, the term 'omniverse' means exactly what you say. And the term 'Marvel Omniverse' means exactly what Mr. Master and Knowsbleed says. And yet it can't be both ways.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Does someone need to post the ridiculousness of Superman vibrating between planets to 'save the omniverse'?? It isn't just Marvel that does it. it wuz to save teh multiverse not omniverse

Mr. M, tone it down a bit please.

Guys, please grow thicker skin. People are going to disagree and debates will become heated, that's life on KMC.

Please use the ignore for posters you just can't debate civilly.

Originally posted by Mr Master


Not to mention friends, that Marvel specifically made it clear,
On Panel and in Handbooks:

+++

1. Omniverse

2. One Above All

http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/928/omni2mz6.jpg

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

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On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

(here's Marvel Comics yet AGAIN, in yet ANOTHER arc, telling us what their Reality is)

http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2048776_omni3py5.jpg

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

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* If anyone has any on panel/handbook proof depicting Marvel as a single Megaverse,
(before or after 2005)
please post it,
if not,
there's absolutely NO counter to this post.

Actually, Marvel Comics has NEVER EVER depicted,
stated
or even alluded to the idea on panel that it's a single Megaverse. That's because marvel is misuisng words...

But hey m,ore circular reasoning from mister M

"Marvel misuses words."
"Here's marvel using the word OMNIVERSE"

How does that prove that eachtime they use the word they're not misusing it?

Because that 2005 bio was a correct usage. Subsequently has not been. though the 2007 doesn't say that its not the definition from the 2005 one. its just a shorter usage.