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h2h same wrestlin fight cept now THEIR BOTH DRUNK (in original fight only Herc wuz drunk)

he who KO the other wins

Oh, man... Given that Hercules is greek, and Thor is blonde...
I'd call it a stalemate. In a way they both lose. Their dignity.
At least, Thor does...

Well, given the fact that in pure h2h Herc is slightly the better and also has more experience in fighting drunk, i would give the slight majrity to him.

I feel Herc Would operate just as good drunk

It ends in beautiful man-love.

Hercules throws thor around and beatson him the thor after being pwned beats herc off

Well, Greeks and the Norse are both known for getting drunk off their asses, but Thor isn't the type the drink on the job, while Herc drinks on the job, off the job, while bedding random women around the MU, etc...

Originally posted by Lord Feron
I feel Herc Would operate just as good drunk I agree : it don't make him fight any worse

Originally posted by tejpis
It ends in beautiful man-love.
Well, THAT would be an issue i'd HAVE to have no matter the cost.

Originally posted by wannabe
Well, THAT would be an issue i'd HAVE to have no matter the cost. Well, herc took on the masters of evil while drunk and it took Goliath to put him down, soooooo... I believe they would have killed thor drunk or not ( without hammer ). Herc wins imo.

Originally posted by james2099
Well, herc took on the masters of evil while drunk and it took Goliath to put him down, soooooo... I believe they would have killed thor drunk or not ( without hammer ). Herc wins imo.

no

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18519/557528-thor_blood_oath__4_02_super.jpg
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/18519/557531-thor_blood_oath__4_05_super.jpg

You fight worse while drunk. Slower reaction time.
Herc for the win.

^IIRC, Oeming said something about it not mattering to Hercules. He might have even claimed it aided Hercules in battle (But I haven't seen that post in too long for me to comment with certainty). Anyways, his fighting ability didn't seem hampered.

I think I've only seen Thor drunk like twice. In the only fight he had, his fighting ability didn't seem hindered. That being said, Hercules drinks a lot more often. That might give him the edge for a 5-6/10. That's assuming that's this is them at average portrayals (In particular Thor).

Hercules all the way. A solid 7 or 8 on 10. Drunk, he would be more shy, and that's, my friends, means a lot of kicks in the norse balls of Blondie.

GTFO.

A drunk Thor or not, Hercules would be lucky to win anything over 5/10.

Giving Hercules anything over 6 -even that's generous- is utter bull.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
GTFO.

A drunk Thor or not, Hercules would be lucky to win anything over 5/10.

Giving Hercules anything over 6 -even that's generous- is utter bull. In hand t hand? he was already beating him in blood oath.I would give him 6-7/10 aganist thor.

Asgardians love a drink and their feasts after wars were no doubt enough to kill a man.
And the Odinson would no doubt surely receive no penalty in its effects.

But I still give this scenario to Herc. It's his thing.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
In hand t hand? he was already beating him in blood oath.I would give him 6-7/10 aganist thor.

Yes. No stipulations, and it's either a split or edge to Thor.

I am so tired of people using Blood Oath as a basis for Hercules taking the majority in hand to hand. It's absolutely asinine.

Why do people fail to understand that Hercules and Thor have had like more than half a dozen fights? In that particular instance -because a writer felt sorry for Hercules- he comes off as the slight better in hand to hand.

It was a one time event. There is more evidence pointing to Thor being physically superior to Hercules than there is to Hercules having any advantage over Thor, including skill.

That's not taking into account that this was only like their second fight continuity wise. Why couldn't Thor simply get more skilled over time if people want to be so thick headed about it?

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8927/herc1.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4897/herc2.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/882/herc3n.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules2.jpg

It doesn't make the showing less valid just because you don't like it.

In a wrestling match Herc ftw

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yes. No stipulations, and it's either a split or edge to Thor.

I am so tired of people using Blood Oath as a basis for Hercules taking the majority in hand to hand. It's absolutely asinine.

Why do people fail to understand that Hercules and Thor have had like more than half a dozen fights? In that particular instance -because a writer felt sorry for Hercules- he comes off as the slight better in hand to hand.

It was a one time event. There is more evidence pointing to Thor being physically superior to Hercules than there is to Hercules having any advantage over Thor, including skill.

That's not taking into account that this was only like their second fight continuity wise. Why couldn't Thor simply get more skilled over time if people want to be so thick headed about it?

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/8927/herc1.jpg
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/4897/herc2.jpg
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/882/herc3n.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules2.jpg

In your first scans, was Thor drunk?
In your second scan, congrats for your use of old ass scans. Is this even the same Hercules as the one we are talking about?

No, insane.

Check Hercules' first appearance list for a definitive answer.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
It doesn't make the showing less valid just because you don't like it.

I know. The reasoning behind the opinions given is still asinine.

Hercules and Thor have had a half dozen fights. In one particular scene he had the edge in hand to hand combat. Ignoring the fact that fights on this board operate on usually a 10 matches basis, the fact that there's more evidence pointing to Thor being superior to Hercules physically means that there's absolutely no logical reason for Hercules to take more than 5/10 in a fight against Thor. The evidence to support such a position simply doesn't exist as far as I know.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No, insane.

Check Hercules' first appearance list for a definitive answer.


I know. The reasoning behind the opinions given is still asinine.

Hercules and Thor have had a half dozen fights. In one particular scene he had the edge in hand to hand combat. Ignoring the fact that fights on this board operate on usually a 10 matches basis, the fact that there's more evidence pointing to Thor being superior to Hercules physically means that there's absolutely no logical reason for Hercules to take more than 5/10 in a fight against Thor. The evidence to support such a position simply doesn't exist as far as I know. in both of those fight's you posted it looked like mortal herc and to use him a basis is just stupid. And i don't just base my opinion on blood oath herc also looked superior to thor in hercs series it was to the point where thor was begging herc to throw the fight

Herc wins at least 10/10.

Herc like 7.5/10.

Herc man rapes Thor.

Originally posted by Nihilist
Herc man rapes Thor. Unfortunalty, literally.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Unfortunalty, literally. especially being drunk.

H2H i give Thor a edge in wrestiling Hercules, in blood oath Thor wasn't exactly being as aggressive as he would a standard enemy and Hercules was pretty Poed at the time

Originally posted by DarkOdin
H2H i give Thor a edge in wrestiling Hercules, in blood oath Thor wasn't exactly being as aggressive as he would a standard enemy and Hercules was pretty Poed at the time That's nice.

Thor admits Herc was better in hth, though.

Herc 11/10

How often does thor visit Valhalla. That place is all about the drinking and the fighting.

^Good point actually. I can think of a few more scenes now.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
in both of those fight's you posted it looked like mortal herc and to use him a basis is just stupid. And i don't just base my opinion on blood oath herc also looked superior to thor in hercs series it was

Neither of those were mortal Hercules. Lulz.

How did Hercules look superior to Thor? In the beginning he did spend like a page beating on Thor but that was a Hercules who sucker punched Thor and cheated with shit like purple nurpples etc. That fight follows previous formulas of them being equal.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
to the point where thor was begging herc to throw the fight

facepalm

Originally posted by Mindset
That's nice.

Thor admits Herc was better in hth, though.

Herc 11/10

1) Thor got better in hand to hand.

Or

2) Thor lied.

Armak shrugs off Hercules' punch, and one shots him:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak1.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak2.jpg

Thor being the gentleman that he is, asks poor Hercules to step aside and goes toe to toe with Armak:
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak3.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak4.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak5.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak6.jpg
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af17/RageOfOlympus/Thor/DefeatsArmak7.jpg

Thor > Hercules

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
1) Thor got better in hand to hand.

Or

2) Thor lied. 3) You're wrong; Herc > Thor.

17) Prove it.

It was proven in the comic Herc beat Thor, didn't you read it?

I haven't as the comic doesn't exist.

Sure it does, Herc beat Thor and was about to rape him after he choked him out, then Thor started crying and lightning came down.

Originally posted by Mindset
Sure it does, Herc beat Thor and was about to rape him after he choked him out, then Thor started crying and lightning came down.

Nope, never happened. Post the scan or concede. Point to the tears on Thor's face and/or eyes or concede. Thor didn't feel like breaking out of Hercules' grip as he didn't want causing him serious injury. With Hercules being so fragile in comparison to the son of Odin and all.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope, never happened. Post the scan or concede. Point to the tears on Thor's face and/or eyes or concede. Thor didn't feel like breaking out of Hercules' grip as he didn't want causing him serious injury. With Hercules being so fragile in comparison to the son of Odin and all. Like he broke out of hercs bearhug?

He didn't have to. Thor was in the mood to demonstrate some skill.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Nope, never happened. Post the scan or concede. Point to the tears on Thor's face and/or eyes or concede. Thor didn't feel like breaking out of Hercules' grip as he didn't want causing him serious injury. With Hercules being so fragile in comparison to the son of Odin and all.

Someone just posted a scan of thor admitting Herc is better then him in H2h. Not only that but herc is better drunk.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
He didn't have to. Thor was in the mood to demonstrate some skill. Lol headbutting someone is skill? And i believe thor himself said he couldn't break out of it.

Originally posted by Black bolt z


Someone just posted a scan of thor admitting Herc is better then him in H2h. Not only that but herc is better drunk.

How is that a scan of a defeated Thor?

Talk to Oeming. His reasoning is that the alcohol didn't impair him. Either way, at that point Hercules was pissed and didn't seem impaired at all.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Lol headbutting someone is skill? And i believe thor himself said he couldn't break out of it.

Head butting? He used strikes and jabs to keep him off balance and then outsmarted him.

You believe.

Thor was seconds away from being raped prison style; the tears were implied.

Fact.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
How is that a scan of a defeated Thor?

Talk to Oeming. His reasoning is that the alcohol didn't impair him. Either way, at that point Hercules was pissed and didn't seem impaired at all. It isn't. But its thor admitting he would lose an H2h match with Herc.

And either way he was drunk. So thor admitted he would lose in H2h to even a drunk herc.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thor was seconds away from being raped prison style; the tears were implied.

Fact.

Get your homoerotic fantasies out of here. I'm sure you could find some Northstar/Hercules interactions.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Head butting? He used strikes and jabs to keep him off balance and then outsmarted him.

You believe. Wtf are you talking about how do you use jabs when your in a bearhug? so your saying he didn't headbutt him to get out of the bearhug?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Get your homoerotic fantasies out of here. I'm sure you could find some Northstar/Hercules interactions. Herc is greek, the gay sex was imminent. Why do you think Thor used that lightning so fast?

Originally posted by Black bolt z
It isn't. But its thor admitting he would lose an H2h match with Herc.

And either way he was drunk. So thor admitted he would lose in H2h to even a drunk herc.

Except that he didn't lose in hand to hand. And his never lost to Hercules hand to hand.

The reasoning that Hercules takes the majority based on blood oath is absolutely asinine. Not only are most of our matches up ranked out of 10 fights, they've had half a dozen battles and Hercules' has never won or shown any type of advantage over Thor except 1 instance. Which is balanced out and trumped by Thor coming off as physically superior to Hercules.

Anyone who thinks Hercules wins in hand to hand against Thor better be ready to admit that Thor's physically superior to Hercules. I can live with that. But I doubt that would ever happen. Double standards a plenty.

Not to mention we actually have a scene where Hercules admits defeat.

The best Hercules can hope for is 5/10 split. Anymore than that and you're not basing it on evidence. On the other hand, you could justify Thor taking 5-6/10.

Wasn't impaired. Thor's statement was a general comment and not one specific to that encounter from what I read.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Wtf are you talking about how do you use jabs when your in a bearhug? so your saying he didn't headbutt him to get out of the bearhug?

I'm saying that you need to re-read that goddamn scene as that was what he clearly did.

Yes.

Edit: Are you talking about Blood Oath or the fight I posted?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Anyone who thinks Hercules wins in hand to hand against Thor better be ready to admit that Thor's physically superior to Hercules. I can live with that. But I doubt that would ever happen. Double standards a plenty. I admit this. Thors not much stronger but i'd say he is stronger.

Thor can lift maybe a couple hundred more pounds than Herc, and Herc stomps Thor in hth 11/10.

Glad we can come to an agreement.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I'm saying that you need to re-read that goddamn scene as that was what he clearly did.

Yes.

Edit: Are you talking about Blood Oath or the fight I posted? Talking about blood oath.

I don't think either of them are stronger and if either are it's herc imo with thor having an edge in striking power.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules2.jpg

That's Herc...?

It's intended to be. He was revamped for his appearance in Thor where they expanded on his character more (Specifically his care free attitude). Someone told me they justified it by claiming that this was a Hercules plucked from the timestream a few centuries ago but I've never read that story.

Originally posted by Mindset
Thor can lift maybe a couple hundred more pounds than Herc, and Herc stomps Thor in hth 11/10.

Glad we can come to an agreement.

Thor's strong enough to go toe to toe with a guy who completely owned Hercules.

His also gone toe to toe with the same Hulk that was taking on Hercules plus other Avengers.

There's also the battle where I believe the Destroyer promptly owned Hercules only for Thor to go on and battle him evenly.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules1.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e139/RageOfTheGod/Thor/DefeatsHercules2.jpg Thor can cover Herc's eyes with a cape and make him fall out of a window.

Good to know.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's intended to be. He was revamped for his appearance in Thor where they expanded on his character more (Specifically his care free attitude). Someone told me they justified it by claiming that this was a Hercules plucked from the timestream a few centuries ago but I've never read that story.



Thor's strong enough to go toe to toe with a guy who completely owned Hercules.

His also gone toe to toe with the same Hulk that was taking on Hercules plus other Avengers.

There's also the battle where I believe the Destroyer promptly owned Hercules only for Thor to go on and battle him evenly. Herc's strong enough to beat Thor in hth 11/10.

K.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
I don't think either of them are stronger and if either are it's herc imo with thor having an edge in striking power.

I find it amusing that the people arguing in favor of Hercules just seem to make shit up.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
Talking about blood oath.

IIRC, he did head butt Hercules, but I don't see what that proves.

If you're trying to claim that this is an indication of superior strength, your grasping at straws more than I thought.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
I admit this. Thors not much stronger but i'd say he is stronger.

I think Thor can step it up a notch past Hercules physical capabilities when the time comes for it but for 98% of the time, they're equal.

You can give Hercules the edge of 6/10 if you like. But it's completely baseless in a straight up fight non circumstantial fight.

Without a doubt Thor would win. Herc is too one dimensional. When He gets in a fight most super strong characters i.e Sentry, Hulk, A-Bomb, Juggernaught, any Herald of Galactus, Nova Corps etc, can either out right beat him or stalemate him in a one on one fight. When Thor got pissed it took Beta-Ray Bill, Silver Surfer and the entire Infinite Watch including Thanos of Titan to take him down. He's faster, smarter, and stronger, than Hercules plus he has a nice big hammer to cave Herc's head in with. Or he could just zap him with a lightning bolt.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I think Thor can step it up a notch past Hercules physical capabilities when the time comes for it but for 98% of the time, they're equal.

You can give Hercules the edge of 6/10 if you like. But it's completely baseless in a straight up fight non circumstantial fight. Except this isn't a strait up non circumstantial fight.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Without a doubt Thor would win. He's faster, smarter, stronger, and he has a nice big hammer to cave Herc's head in with. Or he could just zap him with a lightning bolt. No and/or read more.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
Except this isn't a strait up non circumstantial fight.

Like I said on the first page, Hercules could edge him out 6/10 as I don't see Thor battling often when drunk. The one time he has, he wasn't hindered, but I'm feeling generous.

Originally posted by Brockalizer
Without a doubt Thor would win. He's faster, smarter, stronger, and he has a nice big hammer to cave Herc's head in with. Or he could just zap him with a lightning bolt.

Now here's a guy who knows what his talking about.

I'd wager that Thor's more durable than Hercules as well. At least his outperformed him in the blunt force and heat resistance category.

Rage stop making socks.

You caught me.

"Eugene, Oregon"


Like that's a real place!

HAHAHAHA!

It's some back water village in India. Truf. It's the shit hole that spawned Bada.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It's some back water village in India. Truf. It's the shit hole that spawned Bada. I say thee nay . Mindsets posts are compelling he seems to know his comics

Originally posted by iceman24567
I say thee nay .

This post started out well but then...

Originally posted by iceman24567
Mindsets posts are compelling he seems to know his comics

...crashed and burned.

Thor's only chance of winning is spinning, but can he do it without Mjolnir?

Thor, anyway, already admit that he is below Herc in h2h.