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who wins?

Wolverine, his HF will prevent him from freezing.

Besides, training with Iceman for many years has probably given him some idea on how to fight a freezer.

Don't know much about Mr Freeze, but I'll just throw my two cents.

Wolverine fought Iceman Sentinel X and psionic construct Iceman (or whatever that was, can't remember) and did pretty good.

Scans are in jinzin's respect thread, one link is not working now though. If anyone's interested I can later find that issue and post the scan...

Originally posted by The Nuul
Wolverine, his HF will prevent him from freezing. How can his healing factor prevent him from freezing?

He means his HF will keep him from being incapacited, ko'd, or killed if he is frozen. After all, Logan has slept naked in sub zero temps before, and he was just fine.

Originally posted by dmills
How can his healing factor prevent him from freezing?

Sarcasm I believe.


Anyway, Logan has the ability called insulated weather adaptation which likely is a by-product of his HF. He can cope with freeze blasts, wade through them even, but sooner or later he'll get stuck for good (well, for enough time to call Victor the winner).

I have no idea how powerful Freeze's ray gun is, so I can't say what this fight would look like. Is it capable of shooting wide blasts, etc.? Does Freeze have superhuman reflexes?

logan stomps

Freeze is just a regular guy with a gun that as far as I know only shoots beams in a narrow radius.

Originally posted by KingD19
Freeze is just a regular guy with a gun that as far as I know only shoots beams in a narrow radius.

I dunno, wikipedia says that his exo-suit grants him super strength Not that it's gonna help here.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I dunno, wikipedia says that his exo-suit grants him super strength Not that it's gonna help here.
It would help him alittle it, like to get wolverine off him for like half a second maybe. just a minor add i guess

Originally posted by jalek moye
It would help him alittle it, like to get wolverine off him for like half a second maybe. just a minor add i guess

Sure, it wouldn't be completely useless. Didn't mean that.

Freeze needs high lv accuracy here, Logan has much experience with dodging energy blasts... there is even an entire section in the respect thread.

YEah, the suit gives him strength, but not more than CL 5 I believe.

Originally posted by KingD19
as I know only shoots beams in a narrow radius.

No he can cover a large radius too, and has shown to "freeze" an entire room of people in seconds.

Well, ya learn something every day I suppose.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Sarcasm I believe.


Anyway, Logan has the ability called insulated weather adaptation which likely is a by-product of his HF. He can cope with freeze blasts, wade through them even, but sooner or later he'll get stuck for good (well, for enough time to call Victor the winner).

I have no idea how powerful Freeze's ray gun is, so I can't say what this fight would look like. Is it capable of shooting wide blasts, etc.? Does Freeze have superhuman reflexes?

Cool. No pun intended

I actually don't have a problem with this ability. It seems to me that based on his origin and his natural abilities, adaption to extreme elements is well within reason.

wolverine to quick for freeze. wolvie cuts off his scuba gear and bam lets freeze die

I doubt Wolverine will lose 10/10 though, majority to Freeze.

Logan has fought freezers (aka. Iceman, he'll know what to do) in training before. Has Freeze fought bladed super agile opponents before?

Does Batman holding batarangs between his fingers count?

8 out of 10 majorty for Wolverine

even split imo.

if freeze hits him once, it's over since he should be able to apply more layers to win by incapacitation. other times he gets diced.

So Mr. Freeze, is going to freeze a guy who routinely trains with Iceman, and has recently been fighting Mimic?

Originally posted by KingD19
So Mr. Freeze, is going to freeze a guy who routinely trains with Iceman, and has recently been fighting Mimic? just seems sketchy that logan can't be frozen by any of them, it's not like he's radiating heat of has a force field or something. he has high resistance to cold, but not that powerful.

and in that scan, angel > iceman.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
and in that scan, angel > iceman.

flight > ice manipulation biscuits


Found it... Wolverine vs. Xavier's illusion:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1999/uncannyxmen10609.th.jpg


Starting distance is too much methinks...

I'm not sure but isn't Mr. Freeze's freeze beam working different than Icemans icebeam? I mean Iceman shots ICE (frozen water) and Mr. Freeze shots a beam that freezes what it hits.

Iceman is so far beyond Freeze, it's ridiculous to compare them.

Freeze blasts usually work similar. Just ask Batman who's got attacked by Killer Frost, Icicle, Captain Cold and Mister Freeze at the same time. The result? The Bat encased in ice.

Wolvie rops the suit off him and uses it as a cooler for his beer

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
flight > ice manipulation biscuits


Found it... Wolverine vs. Xavier's illusion:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1999/uncannyxmen10609.th.jpg


Starting distance is too much methinks... it's inexplicable how wolverine got out of the ice block in the scan following the one where he breaks the ice slide.

he gets out of it before iceman even hits the ground, and he's not even damp. O_o

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it's inexplicable how wolverine got out of the ice block in the scan following the one where he breaks the ice slide.

he gets out of it before iceman even hits the ground, and he's not even damp. O_o

Yeah, it was depicted very poorly. We can only speculate. Maybe Iceman bounced off that ice trap, causing it to crack and then hit the ground? Maybe Logan used his "faster than human eyes can follow" speed, sheathed the claws, bended his arm, popped them again and cut his way out?

There is also a possibility that he was still partially encased in the ice in the fourth panel.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
There is also a PossIbility that he was Still partially encased in the ice in the fourth panel.

Originally posted by psycho gundam

Originally posted by psycho gundam
just seems sketchy that logan can't be frozen by any of them, it's not like he's radiating heat of has a force field or something. he has high resistance to cold, but not that powerful.

and in that scan, angel > iceman.

Little known fact: Wolverine is resistant to being frozen because he's such a flaming homosexual.

Originally posted by psycho gundam




Good thing we're not talking here about Ultimate Millarverine. He didn't even need his arms loose to break free

Originally posted by grimify
Little known fact: Wolverine is resistant to being frozen because he's such a flaming homosexual.
Oh man.

*calls battlehammer, srankmissingnin, and jinzin*

if wolvie gets hit....he loses......that being said.....i've seen batman dodged freeze's ice beams......wolvie could most of the time

wolverine 8-9/10

Originally posted by dmills
How can his healing factor prevent him from freezing? it doesn't, he does however have a body far more suited to cold weather and harsh environments just like sabretooth does. neither of them really have to wear much clothing in sub-zero temperatures, it's a mutation they both share, among other traits.

anyway, what temperature does freeze use on average? that's a big issue most are overlooking, logan's ability to withstand cold isn't absolute. IF freeze can even hit him, and he's using a very low temperature, i guess he can win right?

Originally posted by grimify
Little known fact: Wolverine is resistant to being frozen because he's such a flaming homosexual. lmao

If Vic actually wanted to kill Batman He would have done it a long time ago.

Mr Freeze's device has a hypersonic wide angle beam . His handheld device may be shaped like a gun. But it sure as hell is not limited to producing shells and straight line energy projection.

Mr Freeze 10/10.

Freeze holds logan in solidice -omega red style- at a temperature near absolute zero, And leaves a minion to shatter it -Gotham Central- style into a million pieces.

The skeleton will make a nice coat hanger.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
*calls battlehammer, srankmissingnin, and jinzin* In 5,4,3,2,1...