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Who wins

duh stalemate


if SOKs guns rilly kill anythin then it kill both Fury and DD

i dunno about Fury but DD come back from death. no sure he can adapt to that kinda magic waepon tho, so the colts prolly kim him again & again



and team2 cant hurt SOK ("not enuf gun" )

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
duh stalemate


if SOKs guns rilly kill anythin then it kill both Fury and DD

i dunno about Fury but DD come back from death. no sure he can adapt to that kinda magic waepon tho, so the colts prolly kim him again & again



and team2 cant hurt SOK ("not enuf gun" )

fury can solo he could bust the Multiverse
and can turn into a vampire
nuff said

Originally posted by galactusischere
fury can solo he could bust the Multiverse
and can turn into a vampite
nuff said too much

I think SOK could kill Fury, simply because it's a partially organic life form. I don't think it could kill Amazo though, because he's all machine.

btw the Cassidy thing wuz retconed by the writers

Originally posted by Merlyn

I don't think it could kill Amazo though, because he's all machine. **** I thougt it wuz DD (cant edit )


ok SOK cant kill Amazo but Amazo cant hurt SOK either


can Amazo copy SOK? hes copied magic things before

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
can Amazo copy SOK? hes copied magic things before i'd assume so. amazo showed no difficulty in copying the worlogog's power, afterall.

Fury was more powerful than another realities MJJ who was almost as powerful as 616 MJJ
people are saying that SoK can;t kill Galactus... but he can easily kill Fury?
doubt that

...wut? imo SOK can also kill Galactus (ffs hes the Angel of Death)

Fury is killable. Therefore SOK can kill him.

Originally posted by Survivor19
Fury is killable. Therefore SOK can kill him.

Fury could eventally even become a threat to LT...

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
hes the Angel of Death

....and hes the Devourer Of Worlds

Originally posted by galactusischere
Fury could eventally even become a threat to LT... duh if MJJ can make a Fury then LT can make a even better Fury to fight the 1st Fury, or why not BECOME a super-Fury himself?

Originally posted by galactusischere
....and hes the Devourer Of Worlds "devourer o worlds" who wuz allmost killed by the F4

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
"devourer o worlds" who wuz allmost killed by the F4

Hey hey hey...
RESPEKT big G

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
"devourer o worlds" who wuz allmost killed by the F4

never read the actual issue don't you?

Originally posted by Survivor19
Fury is killable. Therefore SOK can kill him. This

When and how?

Originally posted by Survivor19
When and how?

I think he means the encounter where Reed used the UN

Originally posted by Parmaniac
never read the actual issue don't you? Originally posted by Parmaniac
I think he means the encounter where Reed used the UN not the UN

k maybe not the F4 but bigG wuz in weakend state & almost killed by lo-lvl tiers. if not F4 maybe Avengers tbh dont remeber now

After the fight with Terrax?
Duh. It is remarcable for F4, but doesn't stains Galactus.

Originally posted by SoulDevourer
not the UN

k maybe not the F4 but bigG wuz in weakend state & almost killed by lo-lvl tiers. if not F4 maybe Avengers tbh dont remeber now

what issue was that?
never read that one

Originally posted by Survivor19

Fury is killable. Therefore SOK can kill him.
Even God (not TOAA) couldn't kill Fury.

Fury was created by God (not TOAA) to be unkillable.

It took a battle across UniverseS vs God to weaken Fury substantially,
to become killable.

So, in actuality, the Fury is killable,
but first it has to encounter God (not TOAA) in a prolonged battle,
to become so.

So, unless SOK is up against a Fury that finished battling God,
I don't see SOK killing anything, before he gets killed first.

... meh, SOK wasn't even all that.
(killing the cheesy "god" of the Preachervese?) ... please.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Even God (not TOAA) couldn't kill Fury.

Fury was created by God (not TOAA) to be unkillable.

Actually was created by TOAA afterall. If someone cannot kill the other, then he doesn't deserve name God and MJJ is so far from it, it's ridiculous.

The team wins, but wouldn't be surprised, if SOK could kill the Fury even before it became weakened.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Even God (not TOAA) couldn't kill Fury.

Fury was created by God (not TOAA) to be unkillable.

It took a battle across UniverseS vs God to weaken Fury substantially,
to become killable.

So, in actuality, the Fury is killable,
but first it has to encounter God (not TOAA) in a prolonged battle,
to become so.

So, unless SOK is up against a Fury that finished battling God,
I don't see SOK killing anything, before he gets killed first.

... meh, SOK wasn't even all that.
(killing the cheesy "god" of the Preachervese?) ... please.

Hey MM, where is this The Fury from?? what comics does he appear in? Is this the being your talking about?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fury_(Marvel_Comics)

Yes,it's that Fury.

but did SOKs guns ever fail to 1-shot-kill anyone? (exept Cassidy but that wuz retconed)

Originally posted by Xplosive
Yes,it's that Fury.

Never read anything about God or TOAA on its Wiki page or on the references, have any info on that Xplosi?

Originally posted by kevdude
Never read anything about God or TOAA on its Wiki page or on the references, have any info on that Xplosi?

He meant with God MJJ. After their enormous battle, Fury was weakened.

SOK

Originally posted by Xplosive

he doesn't deserve name God and MJJ is so far from it, it's ridiculous.
In your unsupported opinion perhaps,
but according to the Jaspers warp saga,
616 MJJ was GOD!

He was unbeatable,
and even the power of he
who molded the life-force of the Omniverse into tiny crystals, (matrix/Merlyn)
couldn't touch him.

Only his personal plot device the Fury was able to defeat 616 Jaspers.

Now, if you have any kind of proof that defies my claims,
please present them.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In your unsupported opinion perhaps,
but according to the Jaspers warp saga,
616 MJJ was GOD!

He was unbeatable,
and even the power of he
who molded the life-force of the Omniverse into tiny crystals, (matrix/Merlyn)
couldn't touch him.

Only his personal plot device the Fury was able to defeat 616 Jaspers.

Now, if you have any kind of proof that defies my claims,
please present them.

Still wasn't God. I have proof. He wasn't God, never was. He never created or started with Marvel Universe and that is more than enough proof of him not being the God. God is the Supreme Person, MJJ was not. Only who truly deserves to be called God is actually God, even in comic verse. In MU we can call TOAA God and THOTI had the God power within MU.
Who cares if they say he was God. He wasn't.
And I am pretty sure LT would take him down, if wanted it. LT is not God, but is servant of God.

God represents the Supreme Person and MJJ wasn't that. He was only delusional, if he thought that and if others though that.

MJJ =/= God.

SoK shoots him, dead.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Still wasn't God. I have proof. He wasn't God, never was. He never created or started with Marvel Universe and that is more than enough proof of him not being the God. God is the Supreme Person, MJJ was not. Only who truly deserves to be called God is actually God, even in comic verse. In MU we can call TOAA God and THOTI had the God power within MU.
Who cares if they say he was God. He wasn't.
And I am pretty sure LT would take him down, if wanted it. LT is not God, but is servant of God.

God represents the Supreme Person and MJJ wasn't that. He was only delusional, if he thought that and if others though that.
This is bling bah giggaloorish, gagalu pin tu.

Again:
Originally posted by Xplosive

Now, if you have any kind of proof that defies my claims,

please present them.
And get that hilarious sanctimonious lala outa here.

I love ya but you crazy with this rant which only pertains to how you see it.
The fact is, in the story, Jaspers became God!

http://img271.imageshack.us/img271/8739/j10ig8.th.jpg

Doesn't get much clearer than that, the plot devce was necessary,
otherwise,
wtf would've become of Marvel, an insane omniverse of comics?

Of course not, so yea, Moore had to give Jaspers a weakness,
and that the Fury.
This is because only the Fury can withstand his power enough to take him to un-space,
assuming any other opponent would know that weakness that it seems only the Fury can exploit.

Dude, 616 Jaspers as far as anyone knows has only ONE weakness,
and that's his personal plot device the Fury.
What the 'F' are you talking about Jaspers wasn't this and that,
Jaspers was ridiculous, TWICE coming on the scene and threatening the entire Omniverse!

And only stopped both times by the same plot device ... the Fury.

... oh, here it is.

pronounce to be GOD! by the freakin Writer himself:

http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/1904895_JJ7.jpg

"He is lonely, but HE IS GOD!"

----------------------------------------

TOAA is the the writer/artist,
in this era of Marvel, this being called Jim Jaspers of the 616 reality,
was given the power to take over the Omniverse, over all reality itself,
with one weakness, not some other 'god' or cosmic entity,
instead,
a thing made of metal and some organic material,
with cosmic durability surpassing that of abstracts,
and a power-set that's arguably the most defensive perfection perhaps ever in Marvel.

Anyhow, I have an on panel depiction of it being stated by Moore,
with snippets of artistic depictions,
he said the Fury crossed the Omniverse to find 616 Jaspers basically imo,
goodness, the determination, it crossed so many barriers,
without any energy protection just it's raw skin,
that by the time it found 616, it was torn up from the incredible experience.

But yea, Moore said: (in the narration on panel)

"The Fury ... it has crossed the parallel realities to find its prey"

(we knew the Fury's trip crossed universes, but this indicates or suggests all of them imo)

Moore also called the Fury ... "the Supreme Killing Machine" in that following arc.

Ok, Fury is Jaspers' only weakness.
That doesn't changes the fact Fury is killable.
Meaning that it would be killed if SOK's bullet hits him.

Originally posted by Survivor19

Ok, Fury is Jaspers' only weakness.
That doesn't changes the fact Fury is killable.
Meaning that it would be killed if SOK's bullet hits him.
The Fury withstood, at ground zero,
a weapon that erases universal concepts from realities across creation.

A weapon that can completely nullify into actual "un-space" all that is (Eternity/Infinity)
in any given universe in the entire Omniverse.

Th Fury withstood that unharmed.

And beyond that, the Fury withstood the Mad God 616 Jaspers' power long enough to prevail,
in an epic battle across entire universes in a flash.

how come no1 else knew about MJJs weaknes? (unspace)

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

how come no1 else knew about MJJs weaknes? (unspace)
It wouldn't have made a difference, if you don't have the power to take em there,
what's the use of knowing?

Also, it might've been Jaspers' own warp that controlled all that,
since as it spread it just replaced reality.

I understand that you like the Fury and know a lot about him.
Maybe it is time for you to look up who SOK is and what he is armed with. Then maybe you will understand.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It wouldn't have made a difference, if you don't have the power to take em there,
what's the use of knowing?

Also, it might've been Jaspers' own warp that controlled all that,
since as it spread it just replaced reality. but he CAN be teleported even in his own warp

so this means they didnt know


maybe the fury found out about it during battle cuz it has good sensors or somethin

anyway has any1 survived 1-shot from SOKs guns? (other then Cassidy who wuz retconed)

Originally posted by Survivor19

I understand that you like the Fury and know a lot about him.
Maybe it is time for you to look up who SOK is and what he is armed with. Then maybe you will understand.
I've had the Preacherverse complete arc since 06' ... let me know what I'm missing?

... oh, and yea I read it too, and all about SOK.

Nothing that I came across presents SOK as a major threat,
the Fury will find a way, that's what the Fury does.

Apparently an understanding that Fury didn't display anything suggesting it can't be killed by his guns. There is no adapting to being dead (unless you are Doomsday).

Originally posted by SoulDevourer

but he CAN be teleported even in his own warp

so this means they didnt know


maybe the fury found out about it during battle cuz it has good sensors or somethin
What?

Ok like I said: Only the Fury was able to resist 616 JJ's power long enough to prevail,
NO other being/entity whatever was able to do anything to Jaspers.
Heck, omniversal power Matrix/Merlyn tried stopping J's warp
and it was thwarted instead. (even his power was nothing basically)

Originally posted by Survivor19

Apparently an understanding that Fury didn't display anything suggesting it can't be killed by his guns.
There is no adapting to being dead (unless you are Doomsday).
Assuming the Fury dies inyour, but in the Jaspers story the Fury killed God,
just like SOK killed his reality's God, of course he did this while his reality's "God" was vulnerable,
with no chance whatsoever, it'd been different had he'd been on his throne.

Unlike the Fury, that had to battle and physically find Jaspers' (this side's God in the story) weakness,
while fighting him across entire universes.

Originally posted by Mr Master

Anyhow, I have an on panel depiction of it being stated by Moore,
with snippets of artistic depictions,
he said the Fury crossed the Omniverse to find 616 Jaspers basically imo,
goodness, the determination, it crossed so many barriers,
without any energy protection just it's raw skin and a self sustained energy propeller on its back,
that by the time it found 616, it was torn up from the incredible experience.

But yea, Moore said: (in the narration on panel)

"The Fury ... it has crossed the parallel realities to find its prey"

(we knew the Fury's trip crossed universes, but this indicates or suggests all of them imo)

Moore also called the Fury ... "the Supreme Killing Machine" in that following arc.
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2195347_Fury_damged_by_flight.jpg

Originally posted by Mr Master
What?

Ok like I said: Only the Fury was able to resist 616 JJ's power long enough to prevail,
NO other being/entity whatever was able to do anything to Jaspers.
Heck, omniversal power Matrix/Merlyn tried stopping J's warp
and it was thwarted instead. (even his power was nothing basically) yeah but Merlyn dint teleport him wich means he didnt know about his weaknes to unspace


btw did MJJ try to warp Merlyn? (iirc they never fight but maybe i missed an ep )

Originally posted by Mr Master
http://s1d4.turboimagehost.com/t/2195347_Fury_damged_by_flight.jpg

thats the one where he turns into some kinda monster or somethin cuz he wuz poisoned by that dart?