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the ale i heard can rip universes apart.
thanos with ig ruled all the universes
infinites toyed aound with eternity the universe of marvel

vs

phoenix force held a universe in her hands
lucifer can create universes
anti monitor was absorbing all the universes


who takes this?

Lucifer. by himself.

Originally posted by Smoki
the ale i heard can rip universes apart.
thanos with ig ruled all the universes
infinites toyed aound with eternity the universe of marvel

vs

phoenix force held a universe in her hands
lucifer can create universes
anti monitor was absorbing all the universes


who takes this? isnt there 3 infinates?
phoenix isnt helpful in this fight.
ide say the 1st team wins.

Originally posted by bigbran
isnt there 3 infinates?
phoenix isnt helpful in this fight.
ide say the 1st team wins.

The first team arnt winning nothing not with Lucifer on the second team.



Anti monitor team wins.

Originally posted by rotiart
Lucifer. by himself.

I think not.

Originally posted by sexyking
The first team arnt winning nothing not with Lucifer on the second team.



Anti monitor team wins.

How is Lucifer going to beat Thanos(IG)?

ALE will crush the PF

The Infinties are so grand, Eternity was manhandled like a G.I Joe action figure in my hand.

The ALE can't fight by itself i don't think..lol....who is using the Equation in this fight...Darkseid?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
The ALE can't fight by itself i don't think..lol....who is using the Equation in this fight...Darkseid?

Actually it can and has, on panel.

It's power is beyond imagining.

I have the scans, you need only ask.

I guess it doesn't matter....the ALE will not defeat Lucifer....and i'm not sure if the IG could defeat Lucifer either

with the ALE and IG together....Anti-Monitor is probably finished....the PF is definately out. Lucifer would be the only one left on his team...and I'm not sure if that entire team could beat him. If it's Darkseid with the ALE...he's out....and i think Thanos is probably gonna be out...it leaves the infinites vs. lucifer.

What the heck....i say Lucifer...i'd have to be convinced that the ALE and the IG could harm him before I say he loses this battle.

yeah, show me those scans if you don't mind...i'd like to see those..i didn't know it could fight by itself

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
yeah, show me those scans if you don't mind...i'd like to see those..i didn't know it could fight by itself

I'll give you the entire scoop on the sentient form of the ALE.

Here we go.



Metron discovered the ALE's location in the stream of Universes.
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/3052/ale1sy3.th.jpg
"I am Metron...at long last I have deciphered the final segments of the Anti-Life Equation."

Metron is traveling through Dimesions (Universes in DC) to find the ALE.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7303/ale3cz2.th.jpg
"The Universe's darkest secret is about to be revealed to me"

He's still crossing Realities
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/9734/ale4uv5.th.jpg
"I am to be taken to the Source of the Anti-Life Energies

He Finds the Anti-Life Equation
http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/1599/ale5tn2.th.jpg
"I realize the dreadful mistake I have made"

Check this Monster out!
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9829/ale6ba2.th.jpg
"The Anti-Life is a sentient being...It's Alive."

"We of New genesis have the effrontery to call ourselves Gods"
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2464/ale7vd2.th.jpg
"I now see what a God trylly is...Next to this deity, I am Nothing"

Metron jets for his life.
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/6539/ale8xb2.th.jpg
"This is a Realm No Mortal or Immortal should ever tread in"

He managed to escape the Universe of the ALE
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/846/ale9wm9.th.jpg
But it threw 4 Aspects of itself that followed Metron back to his Universe.

Continues...


Darkseid become one with the Mystical Wells of Power (or the Well of Primal Mystic Forces
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3788/ale9dr8.th.jpg

Darkseid attacks the ALE...
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2655/ale10hx0.th.jpg
Darkesied with near Infinite Power now, seems to have a chance...

The Anti-Life exerts but a Fraction of it's might and regains it's freedom
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7016/ale11yh8.th.jpg

"This terror is Far more Powerful than even I dared dream"
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4863/ale12sq3.th.jpg
"Ultimate death waits only a microsecond away"

Darkseid then tries to escape with the fraction he was able to absorb.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3492/ale13cf1.th.jpg
"Even a small % of this nightmare's Power will full-fill all my heart's desires"

He seems to escape into a separate Universe, where he plans to "seal off the ALE with it's own energies and...
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4748/ale14ot8.th.jpg
"still have Power enough left to bring my Reality (Universe) to it's knees."

Darkesied was going to conquer his Reality with a small fraction of ALE's power
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4889/ale15ze2.th.jpg
"All those years of scheming will finally gaine me the Universe"...but whoops.

Darkseid underestimated the ALE big time, even after acknowledging it's Power.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2018/ale16ff8.th.jpg
"where are we"?

"Damnation"
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9484/ale17ug7.th.jpg

Continues...

Darkseid was tappng near limitless power, and was still no match for the ALE.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9397/ale1ig7.th.jpg
"Anti-Life is on it's way"

Just when Darkseid and Etrigen are about to be erased by the ALE
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8620/ale2is6.th.jpg
"It just cannot end like this"

Darkseid and Etrigen are saved
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6600/ale3tu7.th.jpg
"By the dark powers...some force whisks us out of death's grasp"

It's Dr Fate, HighFather, and Orion
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7435/ale4ej5.th.jpg

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen are all "linked to an Elemental Source of near-Infinte Power"
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6527/ale5ki4.th.jpg

Together they form, "the Cinque of Cosmic Power"
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3200/ale6nz4.th.jpg
This "Cinque of Power" can obliterate an entire Universe easily"...you will see.

"How can even we, with our near-Infinite might...
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7606/ale7tf3.th.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3599/ale8ko7.th.jpg
"Stand against the Truly Infinite"...

Long enough to prevail!
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6483/ale9vf0.th.jpg

Continues...


"But even with almost omnipotent might, Fate realizes even the Cinque of Power will fall beneath Anti-Life's awesome forces"
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1403/ale10nh7.th.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6751/ale11ya3.th.jpg
"Death is still only a heartbeat away"

The Cinque of Power escapes to the neighboring Reality (Universe)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2842/ale12ob9.th.jpg
But there is only way to make sure the ALE does not reach their Universe.

So the Cinque of Power obliterates that neighboring Dimension (Universe)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6031/ale13py1.th.jpg

"A Reality dies"...
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4143/ale14yn4.th.jpg
"It was this Dimension or his own own"

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2096/ale15tr7.th.jpg
the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

wow...that is powerful. The ALE entity itself must be much more powerful than one who wields the IG....from what I've read.

The question now is...where does the ALE entity itself fit in the DC heirarchy...is it directly beneath the Presence...or is it an aspect of the Presence?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
wow...that is powerful. The ALE entity itself must be much more powerful than one who wields the IG....from what I've read. The full power of the IG has never been reached. Or has the IG ever been defeated in battle.(unless you count that god awful crossover.)

Now Infinity Gauntlet

Incomplete IG controls the Ultimate Nullifier completely

Quasar directed ALL the power of the Ultimate Nullifier at Magus alone
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/5366/igvsunoz6.th.jpg

Quasar was actually able to set it off, the same device Reed wiped out and remade the Multiverse with.
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/2843/igvsun2pi1.th.jpg
Magus controlled those energies and negated Quasar with them.
Absolute control..
Notice how they engulf Quasar evenly.

With a thought and an Incomplete IG he controls the UN
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/8928/igvsun3sw2.th.jpg

Magus remakes the Universe in his image from Universes away with an Incomplete IG
http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/2999/igcontrolsall63pf.th.jpg

Infinity Gauntlet makes you Supreme
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/192/igissupremewatcher1pq.th.jpg
Actually bump that...Infinity Gauntlet makes you God
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1825/igmakesyougod7zf.th.jpg
Infinity Gauntlet makes Warlock God
http://img287.imageshack.us/img287/4705/igmakesyougod23un.th.jpg

IG Thanos said he was Supreme over All Universes
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/1135/igmakesyousupremeinallrealitie.th.jpg

Originally posted by bigbran
The full power of the IG has never been reached. Or has the IG ever been defeated in battle.(unless you count that god awful crossover.)

Only LT & TOAA/God which is the same as the HOTU, is above the IG in Marvel.

That's the problem I have with the IG...if the IG made Thanos that powerful...how in the world did the HOTU make him even more powerful?
You said that the IG makes one supreme....so, how can you get more supereme...than supreme...lol

Also, how do you classify the ALE entity itself against Thanos/IG.....are they both equal in your book...or is one above the other.

I guess it would be better stated that Thanos is almost Supreme....with either the IG or HOTU. He can't be totally supreme because there will always be TOAA above him. I know TOAA never involves himself in these battles....but as long as he's out there....there is always someone more supreme than Thanos with those weapons...lol....so, he is almost Supreme..lol

Originally posted by Mr Master
Only LT & TOAA/God which is the same as the HOTU, is above the IG in Marvel. I know.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
if the IG made Thanos that powerful...how in the world did the HOTU make him even more powerful?
You said that the IG makes one supreme....so, how can you get more supereme...than supreme...

It's just different levels of Supreme.

We can categorize them by their feats.

We know LT is above the IG, and we know TOAA is above LT

THOU is TOAA's power.


The TOAA/God and LT, are the only beings above the IG.


Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Also, how do you classify the ALE entity itself against Thanos/IG.....are they both equal in your book...or is one above the other.

IG has more Feats.

But the ALE could have crushed Fate and company, and Fate and company were able to erase a Universe easily.

Unfortunateely that's the only depiction that I know of concerning the ALE.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I guess it would be better stated that Thanos is almost Supreme....with either the IG or HOTU. He can't be totally supreme because there will always be TOAA above him. I know TOAA never involves himself in these battles....but as long as he's out there....there is always someone more supreme than Thanos with those weapons...lol....so, he is almost Supreme..lol

Technically yes..

But like you said, TOAA is never around and may never show himself.

And LT would not interefere with Thanos because of semantics.
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/4489/uni1sd7.th.jpg
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/87/uni2lz9.th.jpg
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1360/uni3ee6.th.jpg

I admit Mr. Master....you're more well versed in comics than I am. I'm just getting back into them...so, I have some catching up to do. Pre-retcon brothers....it was said that all abstracts, including LT and Spectre, were just insects to them. So, if LT is above the IG...pre-retcon brothers would be also. Would you put them on the same level as the HOTU, or beneath it. I know the HOTU is the power of TOAA, but it is not all of TOAA's power i would imagine...if it was...Thanos could stalemate TOAA with it.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I admit Mr. Master....you're more well versed in comics than I am. I'm just getting back into them...so, I have some catching up to do.

If there's any issues your looking for I probably have them.

if you have AIM or IChat, I can send you comics.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Pre-retcon brothers....it was said that all abstracts, including LT and Spectre, were just insects to them. So, if LT is above the IG...pre-retcon brothers would be also.

Absolutely...

They only appeared in that dc vs marvel nonsense though.


Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Would you put them on the same level as the HOTU, or beneath it.

Well they were suppose to be the embodiment of Marvel and DC.

So that would make them TOAA and the Presence.

TOAA=HOTU

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I know the HOTU is the power of TOAA, but it is not all of TOAA's power i would imagine...if it was...Thanos could stalemate TOAA with it.

TOAA manipulated that entire event.
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3555/thanosusedph7.th.jpg
Thanos had a choice, "Sacrifice or the Void"

Thanos had the power of TOAA, but TOAA was in control the whole time.

sure...that would be cool. I don't have either one of those however. I have yahoo and myspace chat...those are the only one's i use.

Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense. If both brothers were dormant for billions of years...who gave the LT his commission...lol. And the Presence in DC is more active than the TOAA....so, he couldn't have been dormant for that long. Yeah, that crossover was a bunch of nonsense if the Brothers were indeed those beings.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
sure...that would be cool. I don't have either one of those however. I have yahoo and myspace chat...those are the only one's i use.

Yeah, that wouldn't make any sense. If both brothers were dormant for billions of years...who gave the LT his commission...lol. And the Presence in DC is more active than the TOAA....so, he couldn't have been dormant for that long. Yeah, that crossover was a bunch of nonsense if the Brothers were indeed those beings.

After I shower I'll post all the scans of the Infinites, so you can see the majesty that they are.

They're the maintenance crew of the Multi-verse.

Eternity is the size of one of their hands.

Like I said before, They are the "celestials" of the multiverse...

As far as maintenance crew... what kinda cosmic poo do they pick up I wonder.

Originally posted by Mr Master
After I shower I'll post all the scans of the Infinites, so you can see the majesty that they are.

They're the maintenance crew of the Multi-verse.

Eternity is the size of one of their hands.


ok...cool deal

Originally posted by rotiart
As far as maintenance crew... what kinda cosmic poo do they pick up I wonder.

lol..and imagine if they went on strike

I was washing my dishes up and started wondering about the pre-retcon brothers. Why? I have no clue...lol. If the TOAA is supposed to be Stan Lee...or it is hinted that TOAA is he. Does that really make TOAA over the embodiment of the Marvel Universe? Is Stan Lee greater than Marvel Comics itself, or is he only a part of Marvel Comics? I don't see how one writer could be greater than the company itself. So, it stands to reason that the embodiment of Marvel itself, the Marvel Brother would be greater than the TOAA if the TOAA is just a writer. Sure, a writer can be more powerful than any character created. A writer could erase a character on a whim. However, Marvel Comics itself...or the CEO, whatever....could fire the writer...lol....so, Marvel(Marvel Brother) itself is beyond the writer, Stan Lee, hence...the TOAA.

I don't know...I wonder how Rene Descartes would look at it...lol

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I was washing my dishes up and started wondering about the pre-retcon brothers. Why? I have no clue...lol. If the TOAA is supposed to be Stan Lee...or it is hinted that TOAA is he. Does that really make TOAA over the embodiment of the Marvel Universe? Is Stan Lee greater than Marvel Comics itself, or is he only a part of Marvel Comics? I don't see how one writer could be greater than the company itself. So, it stands to reason that the embodiment of Marvel itself, the Marvel Brother would be greater than the TOAA if the TOAA is just a writer. Sure, a writer can be more powerful than any character created. A writer could erase a character on a whim. However, Marvel Comics itself...or the CEO, whatever....could fire the writer...lol....so, Marvel(Marvel Brother) itself is beyond the writer, Stan Lee, hence...the TOAA.

Your going mad crazy

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
I don't know...I wonder how Rene Descartes would look at it...lol

I would say so...i need to get a refill on my meds...lol

I posted pics of the infinites but i reformatted my pc and lost alot of comic scans

Anyways i say lucifer and spectre are about equall or close to it.
Have you guys seen the scans of God eating Michael archangel and punking spectre. They is kweel.

.

testing..

Test

Testing

Originally posted by Mordum
I posted pics of the infinites but i reformatted my pc and lost alot of comic scans

Anyways i say lucifer and spectre are about equall or close to it.
Have you guys seen the scans of God eating Michael archangel and punking spectre. They is kweel. yup, it was pretty neat.

Here we go.

What?

Metron discovered the ALE's location in the stream of Universes.
http://img419.imageshack.us/img419/3052/ale1sy3.th.jpg
"I am Metron...at long last I have deciphered the final segments of the Anti-Life Equation."

Metron is traveling through Dimesions (Universes in DC) to find the ALE.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/7303/ale3cz2.th.jpg
"The Universe's darkest secret is about to be revealed to me"

He's still crossing Realities
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/9734/ale4uv5.th.jpg
"I am to be taken to the Source of the Anti-Life Energies

He Finds the Anti-Life Equation
http://img420.imageshack.us/img420/1599/ale5tn2.th.jpg
"I realize the dreadful mistake I have made"

Check this Monster out!
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/9829/ale6ba2.th.jpg
"The Anti-Life is a sentient being...It's Alive."

"We of New genesis have the effrontery to call ourselves Gods"
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2464/ale7vd2.th.jpg
"I now see what a God truly is...Next to this deity, I am Nothing"

Metron jets for his life.
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/6539/ale8xb2.th.jpg
"This is a Realm No Mortal or Immortal should ever tread in"

He managed to escape the Universe of the ALE
http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/846/ale9wm9.th.jpg
But it threw 4 Aspects of itself that followed Metron back to his Universe.

Darkseid's device allows him to draw energy from the Mystical Wells of Power, by tapping into Etrigen's connection to the Wells..
http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/7744/ale18im7.th.jpg

"we step beyond mere immortality into the sphere of the Infinite"
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/7176/ale3js0.th.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/522/ale4sm4.th.jpg

Darkseid reaches the ALE.
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/2177/ale5pb2.th.jpghttp://img48.imageshack.us/img48/2315/ale6cw0.th.jpg
"Witness now how True Gods do battle"

Darkseid is about to try to absorb the ALE
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/4940/ale7kg4.th.jpg
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9702/ale8ax7.th.jpg
"Let the battle begin"

Continues...


Darkseid becomes one with the Mystical Wells of Power (or the Well of Primal Mystic Forces
http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3788/ale9dr8.th.jpg

Darkseid attacks the ALE...
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2655/ale10hx0.th.jpg
Darkesied with near Infinite Power now, seems to have a chance...

The Anti-Life exerts but a Fraction of it's might and regains it's freedom
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/7016/ale11yh8.th.jpg

"This terror is Far more Powerful than even I dared dream"
http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/4863/ale12sq3.th.jpg
"Ultimate death waits only a microsecond away"

Darkseid then tries to escape with the fraction he was able to absorb.
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3492/ale13cf1.th.jpg
"Even a small % of this nightmare's Power will full-fill all my heart's desires"

He seems to escape into a separate Universe, where he plans to "seal off the ALE with it's own energies and...
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4748/ale14ot8.th.jpg
"still have Power enough left to bring my Reality (Universe) to it's knees."

Darkesied was going to conquer his Reality with a small fraction of ALE's power
http://img77.imageshack.us/img77/4889/ale15ze2.th.jpg
"All those years of scheming will finally gaine me the Universe"...but whoops.

Darkseid underestimated the ALE big time, even after acknowledging it's Power.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2018/ale16ff8.th.jpg
"where are we"?

"Damnation"
http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/9484/ale17ug7.th.jpg

Continues...

Darkseid was tappng near limitless power, and was still no match for the ALE.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9397/ale1ig7.th.jpg
"Anti-Life is on it's way"

Just when Darkseid and Etrigen are about to be erased by the ALE
http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/8620/ale2is6.th.jpg
"It just cannot end like this"

Darkseid and Etrigen are saved
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/6600/ale3tu7.th.jpg
"By the dark powers...some force whisks us out of death's grasp"

It's Dr Fate, HighFather, and Orion
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/7435/ale4ej5.th.jpg

Fate, Darkseid, HighFather, Orion and Etrigen are all "linked to an Elemental Source of near-Infinte Power"
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/6527/ale5ki4.th.jpg

Together they form, "the Cinque of Cosmic Power"
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3200/ale6nz4.th.jpg
This "Cinque of Power" can obliterate an entire Universe easily"...you will see.

"How can even we, with our near-Infinite might...
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/7606/ale7tf3.th.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3599/ale8ko7.th.jpg
"Stand against the Truly Infinite"...

Long enough to prevail!
http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6483/ale9vf0.th.jpg

"But even with almost omnipotent might, Fate realizes even the Cinque of Power will fall beneath Anti-Life's awesome forces"
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1403/ale10nh7.th.jpg
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6751/ale11ya3.th.jpg
"Death is still only a heartbeat away"

The Cinque of Power escapes to the neighboring Reality (Universe)
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/2842/ale12ob9.th.jpg
But there is one only way to make sure the ALE does not reach their Universe.

So the Cinque of Power obliterates that neighboring Dimension (Universe)
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6031/ale13py1.th.jpg

"A Reality dies"...
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4143/ale14yn4.th.jpg
"It was this Dimension or his own own"

"The threat of the ALE is forever ended"....."how"
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/2096/ale15tr7.th.jpg
the bridging Dimension between our Reality and it's has been eradicated"

A hand of an Infinite dragging a Galaxy like if it was Christmas tree lights.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8646/inf1sv0.th.jpg
"The Infinite will just haul the entire Galaxy away"

One Infinite made a 4 Billion Light Year Long Wall of Galaxies.
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5637/inf2bv2.th.jpg
"and the Infinites plan to add our Milky Way to that wall"

You already posted these on the first page.

Eternity (the Universe) attempts to wrestle with one of the hands of the Infinites
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/2209/etvsifop0.th.jpg

Eternity continues to struggle with the hand in vain.
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3193/etvsif2uq3.th.jpg
Eternity begins to enlarge himself to break the grasp of the Infinite.

Instead The Infinite teleports Eternity into the dimension of manisfestation
http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/812/etvsif3ft7.th.jpg
"It's where Cosmic types can see, and be seen more easily."

"Who are you to oppose the will of the Infinites"?
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3073/etvsif4oy8.th.jpg
"Eternity, the living embodiment of the Universe"

"We are greater than any single Reality"
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3237/etvsif5hv9.th.jpg
"We are rearranging the Galaxies -- to improve the balance of the Multi-verse beyond"

Eternity allows each hero to speak to the Infinites through him, on behalf of those that live in the Universe
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4769/etvsif6xl4.th.jpg
"Do you not see that we are superior to you ALL"

As usual, "Gods" are impressed and fascinated by how precious and interesting Mortals are.
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/6107/etvsif7qs6.th.jpg
They call it, "Magnificent Chaos"

Then Thor, emboldened by Eternity, let's out an empty bravado.
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4840/etvsif8fw8.th.jpg
"Thor is it...the one that considers himself a 'God'

"Do not make demands of the Infinites, little one"
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/695/etvsif9ty1.th.jpg
"We do what we must"

sweeet you didn't post the infinate ones!!

Originally posted by bigbran
sweeet you didn't post the infinate ones!!

There they are, and they are,

Very sweet...

So, the Infinites are above the LT?...it kind of seems that way

Nothinf short of Presence/TOAA could defeat Morningstar.

well, then again....Eternity is only a universal entity....LT is multiversal like the Infinites...so, LT would be superior. The scans only threw me off because the Infinites didn't even know who Eternity was....because he was so far beneath them. Yet, LT and Eternity converse all the time...they know each other.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
So, the Infinites are above the LT?...it kind of seems that way

Their not above LT.

They work for the Multi-verse.

And the Multi-verse is below LT.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
well, then again....Eternity is only a universal entity....LT is multiversal like the Infinites...so, LT would be superior. The scans only threw me off because the Infinites didn't even know who Eternity was....because he was so far beneath them. Yet, LT and Eternity converse all the time...they know each other.

LT and Eternity converse because LT actualy has to deal with affairs that coincide with a Universe or the Multi-verse.

Unlike the Infinites, they're on their own mission, improving and balancing the Multiverse.

They said they were greater than any single reality (One Universe)

Originally posted by joesha28
Nothinf short of Presence/TOAA could defeat Morningstar.
Thats whats so wierd about Marvel.
Lucifer can create a universe, than he have to rest, recharge.
WTF?

Living Tribunal was over the IG who could destroy countless of universes without breaking a sweat.
And than reacreate them with the same ease.

Full power Spectre lose to this weakling?... (Lucifer)

Maybe -- Presence is equal to TOAA.
But that doesnt mean that every MArvel character have a DC equal.

If he was transfered to MU than his power wouldent be "second only to Gods" it woudent even make the top ten...

Very interesting about the Anti-Life Equation being Mr. Master. Should be below Yahweh/The Presence though Charle

Originally posted by kevdude
Very interesting about the Anti-Life Equation being Mr. Master. Should be below Yahweh/The Presence though Charle

I agree.

Very enlightening thread