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Who wins. No Presence or GEB

Oblivion- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblivion_%28comics%29

Death- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Mutiverse Eternity- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity_%28comics%29

Entropy- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/entropym.htm

Akhenaten- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/akhenaten.html

Abraxas- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/abraxas.html

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Atlez- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atlez.htm

Michael, Spectre, Phantom Stranger, and DS for the win.

Michael & Spectre ftw

He said no presence, but Michael and the Spectre should do fine.

Once again ....ask yourself this Golem. Would that team win in the Marvel Universe (against the ENTIRE MU)?
If it cannot, then it will not win in the DCU.

On a macro-level the two universes are not only analogous but they are essentially the same.
You will not have a small set of characters (no matter how powerful) bringing down an entire universe. They will always be stopped ...somehow. Someone or something more potent will come.

Thus: Your team loses 10/10 against the DCU (hey, it is an ENTIRE universe).

Why would Michael and Lucifer interfare?
After all Reed with the Nullifier destroyed the Multi-verse without anyone interfaring.

Originally posted by golem370
Who wins. No Presence or GEB

Oblivion- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblivion_%28comics%29

Death- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Mutiverse Eternity- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity_%28comics%29

Entropy- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/entropym.htm

Akhenaten- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/akhenaten.html

Abraxas- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/abraxas.html

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Atlez- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atlez.htm

Does Abraxas possess the UN? Akhenaten have the HOTI

Yes

Well I figured without the presence Spectre is depowered Michael is Depowered and DS would be turned into one of those toy monkeys that have symbols on there hands and it smacks them together

New Genesis Has enough heavy Hitters

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Why would Michael and Lucifer interfare?
After all Reed with the Nullifier destroyed the Multi-verse without anyone interfaring. Reed used the Nullifier to fix a problem, nothing more.

Originally posted by spetznaz
Once again ....ask yourself this Golem. Would that team win in the Marvel Universe (against the ENTIRE MU)?
If it cannot, then it will not win in the DCU.

On a macro-level the two universes are not only analogous but they are essentially the same.
You will not have a small set of characters (no matter how powerful) bringing down an entire universe. They will always be stopped ...somehow. Someone or something more potent will come.

Thus: Your team loses 10/10 against the DCU (hey, it is an ENTIRE universe).

You don't think this team could defeat Marvel's (616) Universe if I took out TOAA & Living Tribunal?

Originally posted by golem370
You don't think this team could defeat Marvel's (616) Universe if I took out TOAA & Living Tribunal? The DCU consists of more then 1 universe though.

But I didn't say multiverse I said Universe. Without The Presence & GEB I don't think DC Universe could win.

With Spectre, and Michael at their best, the DCU most certainly could win.

But without The Presence and GEB there is little hope

Originally posted by golem370
But I didn't say multiverse I said Universe. Without The Presence & GEB I don't think DC Universe could win.

The Worlogog, The Grandmother Box, and THe Oan power battery Alone are sufficiant to beat your team. Not to mention the power of the Source, Michael, the Spectre, and dont' forget, Mxy and Batmite are part of the DCU. They alone are superior to your entire team. Or Mxy could just let the Ultimator out and it can have your team for snacks.

Originally posted by golem370
But without The Presence and GEB there is little hope Considering that Michael=The Power of God, and Spectre= The Wrath of God, there is not much hope for these Abstracts. Unless you would put a power limit on God himself.

There is no God to give him that power here God is banned in this thread. They are in another dimension.

Well Akhenaten has HOTU Eternity is Mutiversal Abraxas and Oblivion is just as powerful as Eternity.

Originally posted by golem370
There is no God to give him that power here God is banned in this thread. They are in another dimension. Originally posted by golem370
Well Akhenaten has HOTU. So Akhenaton has THOTI=The power of Marvel's God, but DC's God is banned?

Gee, thats not 1 sided or anything.....

No Gods
Abraxas
Multiversal Eternity
Oblivion
Akhenaton/IG
Altez is Multiversal
Death
Entropy

Originally posted by golem370
No Gods
Abraxas
Multiversal Eternity=
Oblivion
Akhenaton/IG
Altez is Multiversal
Death
Entropy

As of now the DCU is completely restructred. I could name DC entities to match all of these, but with the DCU just now starting over, I dont' know which entities are existing any more and what new ones will be revealed. This match is inconclusive and seems to be made taylor made for an MU win.

Originally posted by Galan007
Gee, thats not 1 sided or anything..... Welcome to a golem370 thread. doped

welcome to kissing my arse

Let's play nice guys....

Originally posted by golem370
Who wins. No Presence or GEB

Oblivion- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblivion_%28comics%29

Death- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_%28Marvel_Comics%29

Mutiverse Eternity- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternity_%28comics%29

Entropy- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/entropym.htm

Akhenaten- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/akhenaten.html

Abraxas- http://www.knightmare6.com/faq/cosmic_entities_marvel/abraxas.html

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Atlez- http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/atlez.htm

No Presence, gods, or even Demons?


easy....


Mr. Mxyzptlk PWN3D their asses with his pranks.

Originally posted by WrathfulDwarf
Let's play nice guys....



No Presence, gods, or even Demons?


easy....


Mr. Mxyzptlk PWN3D their asses with his pranks.

Yeah sure he would. Abraxas Mutiverse Eternity are above him.

Originally posted by golem370
Yeah sure he would. Abraxas Mutiverse Eternity are above him.

Um No. Mr Mxy clearly is above all of them. Read Worlds Funnest. Now cannon as of IC.

Is he in DC Universe. The Current One or Does he stay in 5-D realm