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who wins?

Originally posted by qqqqqqq
who wins?

ororo

Guardian has faster reflexes, has survived a nuke, can shut people's brains down, and managed to kill sasquatch and stun Galactus. I'm thinking he's got this.

Guardian every single time.

Originally posted by guy222
ororo

Do you intentionally pick the people who will lose on purpose?

Let get the fire really going...

Originally posted by The Fake Macoy
Guardian has faster reflexes, has survived a nuke, can shut people's brains down, and managed to kill sasquatch and stun Galactus. I'm thinking he's got this.

and yet...

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1231/stormvsguardian1wa1.th.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9859/stormvsguardian2pg0.th.jpg

and even his wife

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1153/lightningstrike4la.th.jpg

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Let get the fire really going...



and yet...

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9859/stormvsguardian2pg0.th.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9859/stormvsguardian2pg0.th.jpg

and even his wife

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/1153/lightningstrike4la.th.jpg

haha do you really want me to bring out the Guardian scans? Also that was classic Guardian he was later built to take on Galactus.

*sigh* Vindicator II was being mind-controlled and her suit still worked as she was flying around in the next page. Try again. Also one blast from Vindicator II with her lava blasts and Storm would have been done. However, did you see her once use it? Nope, it's jobbing.

Guardian 10/10

But, Storm has got some of the most variable power levels in the MU. She has wacko scans showing her doing ridiculous stuff. Without correcting for PIS showings, she could probably take it, but not on this forum .

Originally posted by inamilist
Guardian 10/10

But, Storm has got some of the most variable power levels in the MU. She has wacko scans showing her doing ridiculous stuff. Without correcting for PIS showings, she could probably take it, but not on this forum .

What her powers are going to be stronger than an atomic blast then?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
haha do you really want me to bring out the Guardian scans? Also that was classic Guardian he was later built to take on Galactus.

and he is still at that power level now?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
*sigh* Vindicator II was being mind-controlled and her suit still worked as she was flying around in the next page. Try again. Also one blast from Vindicator II with her lava blasts and Storm would have been done. However, did you see her once use it? Nope, it's jobbing.

Blah, blah, blah...she still got knocked out the sky. All that other stuff about a lava bolt is pointless.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
and he is still at that power level now?

Blah, blah, blah...she still got knocked out the sky. All that other stuff about a lava bolt is pointless.

Sure does

and????? The wonders of a shield sort of protects her from those attacks. Not really, as the entire AF team jobbed since they were all mind-controlled by Department H. Wolverine and Storm directly comment they are fighting weird. One blast is all it would take and Storm would be toasty

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What her powers are going to be stronger than an atomic blast then?

Star energies and electron manipulation FTW

and, you know she is connected to the life energies of all planets and matter in the universe?

Originally posted by King_Mungi
What her powers are going to be stronger than an atomic blast then?

Uh...she controlled the energy of millions of star and planets once.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

Originally posted by inamilist
Star energies and electron manipulation FTW

and, you know she is connected to the life energies of all planets and matter in the universe?

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Uh...she controlled the energy of millions of star and planets once.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

Originally posted by inamilist

But, Storm has got some of the most variable power levels in the MU. She has wacko scans showing her doing ridiculous stuff. Without correcting for PIS showings, she could probably take it, but not on this forum .

I knew someone would post Guardian getting suckered by Storm. However, the first thing is that was a very inexperience Guardian who didn't want to fight, and also that was before he got some huge power ups.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Uh...she controlled the energy of millions of star and planets once.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

haha that's actually quite funny as that contradicts what has been said about Storm. Meh! all characters have PIS showings.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
haha that's actually quite funny as that contradicts what has been said about Storm. Meh! all characters have PIS showings.

Without making this another "Let's talk about Storm's power debate", how does this contradict anything?

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Without making this another "Let's talk about Storm's power debate", how does this contradict anything?

Basically writers state she can make superstorms, but on occasions she does. Technically she can "normal" storm systems and nothing about controlling all the stars and planets in the galaxy. She's strong, but not that strong. For instance, Heather Hudson beat two Elder Gods but I consider that PIS.

Correction on my behalf since the 15 min edit expiry limit is over

"Basically writers state she can't make superstorms, but on occasions she does."

It's going to be said eventually so I may as well.

Storm distracts Guardian with snow. Instantly. Then hits him with Mach 80 wind. Instantly. Then she makes a new outfit for herself out of lightning. All instantly of course. Did I mention she does all this instantly?

Damn it! Snow..the one weakness any Canadian has

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Damn it! Snow..the one weakness any Canadian has Except for Alex Trebek. He's immune. The next level of human evolution. Of course it's Canada so that means he's still H. sapiens sapiens.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Correction on my behalf since the 15 min edit expiry limit is over

"Basically writers state she can't make superstorms, but on occasions she does."

It depends on the writer and her location. For almost 10 years almost all Scott Lobdell had Storm do was fly on her winds and create lightning.

While others have her contolling star, ocean current and making cosmic level turbulance around the world to stop a solar flares

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Except for Alex Trebek. He's immune. The next level of human evolution. Of course it's Canada so that means he's still H. sapiens sapiens.

No one dare messes with he Trebeck...no one.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
It depends on the writer and her location. For almost 10 years almost all Scott Lobdell had Storm do was fly on her winds and create lightning.

While others have her contolling star, ocean current and making cosmic level turbulance around the world to stop a solar flares

As per the recent handbooks it was stated she can't do that

Originally posted by HandOfFate
It depends on the writer and her location. For almost 10 years almost all Scott Lobdell had Storm do was fly on her winds and create lightning. Which means we disregard that decade? This is KMC. Lobdell toned her down. Claremont writes her up and makes her do single appearance things that never happen again.

Consistency and averages hold more weight. High averages sure, but taking a few one-off instances and equating her to the top tiers is folly.Originally posted by HandOfFate
While others have her contolling star, ocean current and making cosmic level turbulance around the world to stop a solar flares In the Galactic Core. There was no controlling. Nothing remotely similar ever happened again.

Ocean currents is an interesting way to use her powers, I'll give you that. Equating that to actual hydrokinesis is again folly though.

And iirc if you're referring to what I think you are in the last one, she utilized Sentinel technology.

Every character has high showings, and every character has low. What normally we go by is how the character is portrayed majority of the time.
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Trebeck has all the answers inside his mustache, as it contains all the lost souls who answered double jeopardy wrong. He's knows all, he's omniscient.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
No one dare messes with he Trebeck...no one.



As per the recent handbooks it was stated she can't do that

That just show you how wrong the current handbook can be.

Originally posted by HandOfFate
That just show you how wrong the current handbook can be.

Or PIS can't be included, if that were the case I could say Guardian beat two Elder Gods on her own so thus she is on Elder God status herself. That doesn't make much sense now does it?

HandofFate, have you learned something from KMC forums?

That all Storm scans are ALL CONSIDERED PIS in these forums? Don't you know that Wolfsbane can kill Ororo 100/10??? Ask the geniuses in these boards, they will know!

Originally posted by RisingStorm
HandofFate, have you learned something from KMC forums?

That all Storm scans are ALL CONSIDERED PIS in these forums? Don't you know that Wolfsbane can kill Ororo 100/10??? Ask the geniuses in these boards, they will know! Hooray for martyr complexes.

Storm would thoroughly curbstomp Wolfsbane; that doesn't mean she'd win against Guardian; nor the entire X-Factor team, nor Magneto, nor bloodties Exodus, nor Sersi, nor the entire Hellfire Club, as asserted by some of the "geniuses" who have recently joined the forum. The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round, unfortunately theirs only has four. I suggest you don't do foolish things that will make people think you should join them for a ride.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Hooray for martyr complexes.

Storm would thoroughly curbstomp Wolfsbane; that doesn't mean she'd win against Guardian; nor the entire X-Factor team, nor Magneto, nor bloodties Exodus, nor Sersi, nor the entire Hellfire Club, as asserted by some of the "geniuses" who have recently joined the forum. The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round, unfortunately theirs only has four. I suggest you don't do foolish things that will make people think you should join them for a ride.
131 marry me.

The ring's already in the mail, cupcake.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
The wheels on the bus go 'round and 'round, unfortunately theirs only has four. I suggest you don't do foolish things that will make people think you should join them for a ride. Oh dear, looks like that ship has sailed.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/440527_1-storm-vs-wolfsbane

Then join the ship, man!

I would really love it if you would.



Oh so all those people who started those threads are not "geniuses" too? You know who wins that certain fight, but people still start them or BUMP them from the last 3 years. Why? Because they think that it is an appropriate fight accdg to KMC rules? Oh boy, are they smart!

Originally posted by RisingStorm
Then join the ship, man!

I would really love it if you would. No thanks. I heard it's full of the same type of people as that special bus.
Originally posted by RisingStorm
Oh so all those people who started those threads are not "geniuses" too? You know who wins that certain fight, but people still start them or BUMP them from the last 3 years. Why? Because they think that it is an appropriate fight accdg to KMC rules? Oh boy, are they smart! Maybe you should take your little boohoo to the people who think Storm beats those people - in fact not just beats, but beats easily. They're the reason that Storm's standing on KMC has descended to record lows. Mmkay?

Originally posted by HandOfFate
Uh...she controlled the energy of millions of star and planets once.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6445/stormandthegalaticcore15zq.th.jpg

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/9628/stormandthegalaticcore29bc.th.jpg

I still don't see any manipulation of stars in those scans. I see her absorbing energies from the stars, but no actual manipulation of them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
I still don't see any manipulation of stars in those scans. I see her absorbing energies from the stars, but no actual manipulation of them.

IHMO, the fact that she was able to summon the energy is manipulation.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/summon

Originally posted by HandOfFate
IHMO, the fact that she was able to summon the energy is manipulation.

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/summon

Eh, that's your call. I don't see it that way.

Superman absorbs energy from the sun, but he doesn't manipulate the actual sun in any way, shape, or form.