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Who would win?

thanos absorbs him with ease. this is a curbstomp.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos absorbs him with ease. this is a curbstomp.

LMAO. You have no Idea how powerful the Merged Spectre is do you? OMG.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. You have no Idea how powerful the Merged Spectre is do you? OMG.
Off course he doesn't....
Did you forget how dumb he is?

Spectre. By merged, I assume nvr means with full approval of the presence and tapping the logoz. In which, it's the presence itself empowering Spectre. Which means Thanos dies.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. You have no Idea how powerful the Merged Spectre is do you? OMG. what has he done tell me of seomthing that rivals thanos absorbing lt and all the rest like nohing. he wasnt even challenged. tel lme something spectre did that puts him on this level.

according to Quanchi....Thanos could absorb the TOAA with the HOTI

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Spectre. By merged, I assume nvr means with full approval of the presence and tapping the logoz. In which, it's the presence itself empowering Spectre. Which means Thanos dies. show me or tell me of paneled evidence that shows his true power....im waiting...........

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
according to Quanchi....Thanos could absorb the TOAA with the HOTI whats ur opinion on this matter?

When Thanos had the HOTU, wasn't TOAA the only one below him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
whats ur opinion on this matter?

My opinion...probably a stalemate here...since both have power directly from the Supreme Beings.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
My opinion...probably a stalemate here...since both have power directly from the Supreme Beings.
Except The Spectre is actually shown to be all that is and have all the power. Where as Thanos isn't shown to have all the power there is. He's only shown to be superior to the LT and he absorbs a universe. Not quite the same.

Stalemate.

God vs God is always a stalemate until one goes bankrupt.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Except The Spectre is actually shown to be all that is and have all the power. Where as Thanos isn't shown to have all the power there is. He's only shown to be superior to the LT and he absorbs a universe. Not quite the same. where is the evidence i asked for about specte doing anything close to thanos in the end?????im waiting............................

Originally posted by quanchi112
where is the evidence i asked for about specte doing anything close to thanos in the end?????im waiting............................


Spectre has the Power of God in this fight...if you want evidence shown....show me a panel of the TOAA being able to take out Thanos...that's right, you can't....because he doesn't have any on panel feats. We just know he is Supreme...because that's his character.

This is a stalemate here....unless you want to argue that Thanos w/IG could take out merged Spectre

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Spectre has the Power of God in this fight...if you want evidence shown....show me a panel of the TOAA being able to take out Thanos...that's right, you can't....because he doesn't have any on panel feats. We just know he is Supreme...because that's his character.

This is a stalemate here....unless you want to argue that Thanos w/IG could take out merged Spectre


u love changing the subject. thanos again with the heart lost to no one. i love how ur theories all have no concrete evidence. at least tell me hwo merged spectre defeated that makes him equal to thanos here which he isnt.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u love changing the subject. thanos again with the heart lost to no one. i love how ur theories all have no concrete evidence. at least tell me hwo merged spectre defeated that makes him equal to thanos here which he isnt.

Thanos beat one universe and missed Gamora and AdamWarlock.

MergedSpectre destroyed 3 universes and bitched Michael and Lucifer at the same time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
what has he done tell me of seomthing that rivals thanos absorbing lt and all the rest like nohing. he wasnt even challenged. tel lme something spectre did that puts him on this level.

Learn to type.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Spectre has the Power of God in this fight...if you want evidence shown....show me a panel of the TOAA being able to take out Thanos...that's right, you can't....because he doesn't have any on panel feats. We just know he is Supreme...because that's his character.

This is a stalemate here....unless you want to argue that Thanos w/IG could take out merged Spectre




NOt a stalemate. Thanos wasn't shown to have the power of God. He was just shown to be able to reset something broken and beat the LT becuz God willed it so. The Lt's power comes from God. So for all we know, the lt could have been as powerful as a mouse becuz God had it willed so that his will be done. As far as I'm concerned, We go by on panel feats. Merged Spectre on panel was far more than Thanos with the heart ever was or did.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thanos beat one universe and missed Gamora and AdamWarlock.

MergedSpectre destroyed 3 universes and bitched Michael and Lucifer at the same time. which comic is this battle from. so i can check it out.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
NOt a stalemate. Thanos wasn't shown to have the power of God. He was just shown to be able to reset something broken and beat the LT becuz God willed it so. The Lt's power comes from God. So for all we know, the lt could have been as powerful as a mouse becuz God had it willed so that his will be done. As far as I'm concerned, We go by on panel feats. Merged Spectre on panel was far more than Thanos with the heart ever was or did. thanos wasnt even challenged on panel. not even challenged. thanos wins this outright.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos wasnt even challenged on panel. not even challenged. thanos wins this outright.
LMAO. you realize that Lucifer and Mike could kick the crap out of Thanos with the heart and yet They got bitched by merged Spectre. I was basically testing to see if you were going to do the same bs you always do not knowing ur facts.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. you realize that Lucifer and Mike could kick the crap out of Thanos with the heart and yet They got bitched by merged Spectre. I was basically testing to see if you were going to do the same bs you always do not knowing ur facts.

Here's the funny thing. To the extent of my knowledge he never actually met them while merged.

So . . .

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
LMAO. you realize that Lucifer and Mike could kick the crap out of Thanos with the heart and yet They got bitched by merged Spectre. I was basically testing to see if you were going to do the same bs you always do not knowing ur facts. i dont realize this. and i dont take ur word for anything. ur wrong all the time and are biased. thanos wins this battle allday.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Here's the funny thing. To the extent of my knowledge he never actually met them while merged.

So . . .
What I do remember he was that He was God. And he was everything He bitches Mike and Lucifer as God has bitched mike and kicked lucifer out of heaven.

Originally posted by quanchi112
u love changing the subject. thanos again with the heart lost to no one. i love how ur theories all have no concrete evidence. at least tell me hwo merged spectre defeated that makes him equal to thanos here which he isnt.


why should I tell you...you never even gave me an example of Thanos beating anyone beyond UNIVERSAL level in the other thread. You kept avoiding the subject

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
What I do remember he was that He was God. And he was everything He bitches Mike and Lucifer as God has bitched mike and kicked lucifer out of heaven. ur memory is hazy at best. ur memory was off with the thanos and omega clone.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
why should I tell you...you never even gave me an example of Thanos beating anyone beyond UNIVERSAL level in the other thread. You kept avoiding the subject i give u paneles feats while u dont. fine i win due to ur lack of evidence. ur only hurting urself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i give u paneles feats while u dont. fine i win due to ur lack of evidence. ur only hurting urself.


you give me opinions...which are often contradictory to on panel evidence...that's all you do.

Again...who did Thanos take out that was beyond UNIVERSAL...MJJ? Merlyn? Infinites? Multi-Eternity? Whom did Thanos take out?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
you give me opinions...which are often contradictory to on panel evidence...that's all you do.

Again...who did Thanos take out that was beyond UNIVERSAL...MJJ? Merlyn? Infinites? Multi-Eternity? Whom did Thanos take out? he beat all who was in the multiverse at the time. warlock was out of the multiverse at the time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
he beat all who was in the multiverse at the time. warlock was out of the multiverse at the time.

i'm talking about Thanos w/ IG

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
i'm talking about Thanos w/ IG then go to the other thread.

I don't remember when a merged Spectre took on Michael or Lucifer.

I see there some confusion up in here.


CLARIFICATIONS!



Thanos' Consciousness spread across the Omniverse,


Thanos was everything within the Omniverse.



http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4411/th10kz1.th.jpg
"I was Everything ... bonded to Omni-Reality"

The End inloved MORE than One Universe,

it involved the entire MULTIVERSE, in fact:




Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other Timelines, (UniverseS)

Like Horus:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9029/thotiwq3.th.jpg

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"


And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

.........................................................................................


There's no getting around this,
yall wanted some On Panel Proof that depicted the END taking place in MORE than One Universe,

Well there it is, On Panel.


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Thanos RECREATED the MULTIVERSE ... IMO based on ALL those facts and these:



Eureka!

http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart


"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ...
but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"

"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse
bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"


.........................................................................................



Marvel 2006 Handbooks:



Thanos gained THOTI ... LT joined champions across Reality ..

Thanos destroyed All that existed"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/6977/ltbtz7.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 LT - Bio)


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"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3393/etbap1.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)



Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.


Genis and Entropy destroyed the Spirit/Consciousness of the Totality of Eternity (the Multiverse)

The story wasn't called "Marvel Universe the End", like so many have thought.



The END: Marvel



(Cover of #1)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7775/marveluniversetheend1kh5.th.jpg


(Cover of #6)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8103/marveluniversetheend6gl3.th.jpg



The END of Marvel itself:

Originally posted by Mr Master
The End inloved MORE than One Universe,

it involved the entire MULTIVERSE, in fact:


Here we have Zeus summoning the rest of the Pantheons from other Timelines,

Like Horus:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9029/thotiwq3.th.jpg

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"


And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

Thats an insane stretch to make. Especially since the wording doesn't even slightly imply what you say it does.

nice job mr master, spectre merged or not has done nothing like what thanos did in the end. he was unchallenged. thanos with ease in this battle.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The story wasn't called "Marvel Universe the End", like so many have thought.



The END: Marvel



(Cover of #1)
http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/7775/marveluniversetheend1kh5.th.jpg


(Cover of #6)
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/8103/marveluniversetheend6gl3.th.jpg



The END of Marvel itself:

Not really. All he did was end resurrections and immortality. Hence ending that universe's usefulness for writing comics.


Plus he put it all back in the end

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Thats an insane stretch to make. Especially since the wording doesn't even slightly imply what you say it does.

"Tis ALSO their Universe that be imperiled"

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe badly shaken"



This Proves On Panel ... without a shadow of a doubt,


The End: Marvel ... took place in more than one Universe.

The Official bios of THOTI clearly state Thanos destroyed and recreated the Multiverse.


What more do you want?

Originally posted by quanchi112
nice job mr master, spectre merged or not has done nothing like what thanos did in the end. he was unchallenged. thanos with ease in this battle.


Can Thanos with the Heart defeat the Presence?

Originally posted by Mr Master
"Tis ALSO their Universe that be imperiled"

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe badly shaken"

You should not that the addition of stress is your own

It's much more reasonable to be read as "Tis also THEIR universe"

Doom thinks everything is his. Especially since IIRC his "universe" was merely one understanding.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not really. All he did was end resurrections and immortality. Hence ending that universe's usefulness for writing comics.


Plus he put it all back in the end

Actually in Starlin's interpretation of the Cosmos he only uses the Term Multiverse.

The Multiverse was erased and recreated according to the Official Bio of THOTI.

According to the Official Handbook Bio Thanos wiped out the SAME Eternity Genis and Entropy did,

Genis and Entropy wiped out the Multiverse.


On Panel Zeus differentiated TWO separate UniverseS.

If another Universe deep in the Multiversal stack was ALSO threatend,
then it's quite clear the problem was at the very least Multiversal.

And if we observe this from Starlin's point of view,

it's all of Marvel (the Multiverse)

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
Can Thanos with the Heart defeat the Presence? why must u always change the subject, im sick of answering ur off topic questions. if u would me mature about this i would but instead u like to post fake responses. in this case thanos with the heart crushes merged spectre with ease.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You should not that the addition of stress is your own

Actually I know I'm right on this one, I'll say that with confidence.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
It's much more reasonable to be read as "Tis also THEIR universe"

I disagree,

Horus came from a Timeline in the Past,

in Marvel that's another Reality/Universe.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Doom thinks everything is his. Especially since IIRC his "universe" was merely one understanding.

Again,

Horus comes from another Universe, (the PAST) so that theory isn't working for me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
why must u always change the subject, im sick of answering ur off topic questions. if u would me mature about this i would but instead u like to post fake responses. in this case thanos with the heart crushes merged spectre with ease.


well, if you think Thanos can defeat Merged Spectre, you must also believe he could defeat the Presence...since this Spectre is using the Presence's power.

This is what he means by merged Spectre...
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7062/spectre19975816md3.jpg
In a sense he replaced "God" for that instant...

Was Thanos really "God" with the THOTI? I thought he just had power nothing else?

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually I know I'm right on this one, I'll say that with confidence.

So your confidence has warped the comic itself so that the stress you added is actually there?

I find that quite a stretch

Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree,

Horus came from a Timeline in the Past,

in Marvel that's another Reality/Universe.



Again,

Horus comes from another Universe, (the PAST) so that theory isn't working for me.

Where are you getting the assumption that Horus is coming from the past?

so basically this is a stalemate. as they are both "God" but neither is omniscient as their respective god.

I have no comment on who wins,

but I'm just clarifying the fact that Thanos erased and re-created the Multiverse.



http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/celestialorderthanos.htm#Heart


"Thanos foiled efforts to stop his plan by Eternity, the Living Tribunal etc ...
but he also Obliterated the Multiverse in the process"

"Thanos did so, using the Heart's power to Re-Create the Multiverse
bereft of the flaw that would have destroyed it"


.........................................................................................

Marvel 2006 Handbooks:



"Thanos claimed THOTI ... Eternity opposed ... Thanos destroyed All of Reality"

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3393/etbap1.th.jpg
(excerpt from the Official Marvel Handbook 2006 Eterntiy - Bio)



Also, notice the reference made to Genis and Entropy destroying the same Eternity.


Genis and Entropy destroyed the Spirit/Consciousness of the Totality of Eternity (the Multiverse)

Originally posted by Skeets
This is what he means by merged Spectre...
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7062/spectre19975816md3.jpg
In a sense he replaced "God" for that instant...

Was Thanos really "God" with the THOTI? I thought he just had power nothing else? thanos had his own moment like this in the end where he saw everything. thanos has done this and more in the end. thus he kicks the shit out of spectre.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
so basically this is a stalemate. as they are both "God" but neither is omniscient as their respective god.
Spectre was....

Originally posted by Superherovandal
so basically this is a stalemate. as they are both "God" but neither is omniscient as their respective god.

exactly

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos had his own moment like this in the end where he saw everything. thanos has done this and more in the end. thus he kicks the shit out of spectre.


blah blah blah

still just empty statements

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
exactly wrong, spectre loses this and gets absorbed by thanos. when did spectre do battle with all of reality pretty much and come out on top. he didnt so thus he loses to thanos.

Originally posted by Skeets
Spectre was....

So was Thanos. He was bonded to reality and omniscient.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
blah blah blah

still just empty statements i recite facts. while ur statments are a crude attempt at humor at best. thanos wins.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So was Thanos. He was bonded to reality and omniscient.
That's what I was asking above but no one answered....srug

Originally posted by Skeets
That's what I was asking above but no one answered....srug thanos has done everything spectre has done and more. in combat thanos was unmatched. simple as that. same goes here. thanos pwned the lt with ease. same with spectre. he goes down with ease. u could have am and merged spectre vs thanos with heart and he would still win.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So your confidence has warped the comic itself so that the stress you added is actually there?

Are you going to debate or make snide remarks?


Again, Horus comes from a PAST Timeline (that's ANOTHER UNIVERSE)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I find that quite a stretch

As you wish.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Where are you getting the assumption that Horus is coming from the past?

Not the assumption ... the FACT.



Here Vishnu states that Aknehaten originated from the PAST of 616: (where Horus is from)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7856/thoi4vl7.th.jpg

"Lord Horus arrives late to a meet concerning dire peril concerning Ancient Egypt"



"Ancient Egypt" ... is still in existence in some Timeline in the PAST.

That's by force another Universe,

here are the details on how every second of the PAST or Future is a potential Reality/Universe:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_92-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

Here I presented how UniverseS can created in a flash,
by Time Travelling to the Past of the 616 Universe.

Quanchi i know your doing this deliberately . Nobody can be this blind.. The Spectre was allowed to join with The Source/GOD and became one with everything. This made him go INSANE, if Thanos was truly all powerful like Spectre was he would have went insane as well.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i recite facts. while ur statments are a crude attempt at humor at best. thanos wins.


no, you spew out biased statements. It doesn't matter if this fight pitted merged spectre against just regular Thanos...you'd still say thanos wins. You fail, miserably

they aren't truly omniscient i mean if thanos was truly omniscient he would have known that he was being manipulated the whole time. spectre wasn't as omniscient as The Presence he couldn't be. essentially its a stalemate.

Originally posted by kevdude
Quanchi i know your doing this deliberately . Nobody can be this blind.. The Spectre was allowed to join with The Source/GOD and became one with everything. This made him go INSANE, if Thanos was truly all powerful like Spectre was he would have went insane as well.
I was gonna get to that.
Spectre actually replaced God for that short stint,and he couldn't take it anymore....

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
no, you spew out biased statements. It doesn't matter if this fight pitted merged spectre against just regular Thanos...you'd still say thanos wins. You fail, miserably no they arent biased at all. they are backed by evidence straight from the pages of a comic book. people here are biased for the spectre and cant prove hes superior at all to this thanos. u can make the argument that thanos can win. all u can hope for is a stalemate but i hate to tell u that thanos wins. easily to. go read the end. thanos was unbeatable.

Originally posted by kevdude
Quanchi i know your doing this deliberately . Nobody can be this blind.. The Spectre was allowed to join with The Source/GOD and became one with everything. This made him go INSANE, if Thanos was truly all powerful like Spectre was he would have went insane as well. this proves spectre is weaker mentally than thanos. thanos was chosen becuz he can handle the mantle. his experience with the ig helped him adjust to the heart which was that and more. thanos is just well better. thanks for backing me up. spectre couldnt handle it while thanos could. more evidence for me yay.

Originally posted by Skeets
I was gonna get to that.
Spectre actually replaced God for that short stint,and he couldn't take it anymore....

Thanos had the actual power of TOAA,

but obviously not his absolute authority, wisdom and omniscience.

Thanos was absolutely Omniscient within the Omniverse though,

but TOAA is beyond the Omniverse.

this debate is over spectre cant handle the mantle while thanos can. game over for spectre.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Are you going to debate or make snide remarks?

I can do both.

If you set yourself up to look ridiculous by making an foolish nonresponse to a statement of mine you'll get what's coming to ya.


Originally posted by Mr Master
Here Vishnu states that Aknehaten originated from the PAST of 616: (where Horus is from)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7856/thoi4vl7.th.jpg

"Lord Horus arrives late to a meet concerning dire peril concerning Ancient Egypt"

The THREAT was from Ancient Egypt. Horus wasn't coming from the past to the future.

Aknehaten spent time going from the past to the future just like everyone else did.

Unless you want to claim that everytime someone walks into a room after being called there they've jumped though time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
this proves spectre is weaker mentally than thanos. thanos was chosen becuz he can handle the mantle. his experience with the ig helped him adjust to the heart which was that and more. thanos is just well better. thanks for backing me up. spectre couldnt handle it while thanos could. more evidence for me yay.


you idiot, he's not backing you up


I could interpret this as meaning....Presence>>>>>>>>>>>>TOAA>>>Thanos/w the Heart....which means...Spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos w/Heart


but, I won't do that

I call this a stalemate at the very least.

Originally posted by quanchi112
this debate is over spectre cant handle the mantle while thanos can. game over for spectre. thats stupid. Thanos was tricked the whole time. and Spectre became god for a while. apparently i was mistaken he had his omniscience as well. thanos didn't because he was tricked and didn't realize this. but i say its a stalemate powerwise.

He never replaced The Source. He was joined to it by the Uni-friend. What the Uni-friend is is unknown, some believe it to be an angel, The Word or the Archangel Michael.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
you idiot, he's not backing you up


I could interpret this as meaning....Presence>>>>>>>>>>>>TOAA>>>Thanos/w the Heart....which means...Spectre>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanos w/Heart


but, I won't do that

I call this a stalemate at the very least. i know hes not backing me up but he provided more evidence against spectre. the wrath of presence in dc cant handle being the supreme. which is no surprise really since has has done nothing on panel to suggest he could hang with thanos with the heart. presence isnt greater than TOAA, they are equal its just spectres a dumbass and cant handle shit. thanos crushes merged spectre.

thanos and spectre stalemate thats it.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
thats stupid. Thanos was tricked the whole time. and Spectre became god for a while. apparently i was mistaken he had his omniscience as well. thanos didn't because he was tricked and didn't realize this. but i say its a stalemate powerwise. thanos was chosen becuz he could handle it. spectre cant meaning he sucks. thanos could handle the burden and conquered reality and saved it in the same comic becuz he was chosen to do it. he wasnt forced but became the hero in the end of the end. thanos for the easy win.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
thanos and spectre stalemate thats it. no way, spectre cant handle the power while thanos could...that simple.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos was chosen becuz he could handle it. spectre cant meaning he sucks. thanos could handle the burden and conquered reality and saved it in the same comic becuz he was chosen to do it. he wasnt forced but became the hero in the end of the end. thanos for the easy win. i think it was more because he was the only one who would actually destroy all of reality to please his little death girlfriend.

Originally posted by quanchi112
i know hes not backing me up but he provided more evidence against spectre. the wrath of presence in dc cant handle being the supreme. which is no surprise really since has has done nothing on panel to suggest he could hang with thanos with the heart. presence isnt greater than TOAA, they are equal its just spectres a dumbass and cant handle shit. thanos crushes merged spectre.



actually...if we go by on panel feats...Presence >>>TOAA, since TOAA doesn't do anything in Marvel. It is only generally agreed that both are Equal. for all we know...Presence could be far beyond the TOAA.

what is thanos gonna do to someone as strong as he is? i mean whats he gonna do fight smart? that wouldn't work as when you get to this level of strength strategy doesn't much matter anymore. The reason Presence wins is that he has supreme authority over spectre. but Thanos doesn't so he can't do anything and neither can spectre. this thread is useless as it just degrades into "Whos' the better God?

Originally posted by Superherovandal
i think it was more because he was the only one who would actually destroy all of reality to please his little death girlfriend. thanos in the end was unfreaking stoppable by anything or anyone other than a comic book version of god.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos in the end was unfreaking stoppable by anything or anyone other than a comic book version of god.

So . . . Spectre merged with the Presence?

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
actually...if we go by on panel feats...Presence >>>TOAA, since TOAA doesn't do anything in Marvel. It is only generally agreed that both are Equal. for all we know...Presence could be far beyond the TOAA. no ur just being biased. noone can touch TOAA while in dc u can trick the wrath of the presence and have him due ur will. asmodel rng a bell. ud think the presence would have better security when cronus showed up and crushed it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
thanos in the end was unfreaking stoppable by anything or anyone other than a comic book version of god.

But yet he somehow forgot about Adam Warlock

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So . . . Spectre merged with the Presence? quit with ur nonsense. merged with is not the same as presence by himself. thats another story. spectre merged loses to thanos.

Originally posted by kevdude
But yet he somehow forgot about Adam Warlock he was no threat. no one was thats the cool thing about thanos in the end. he was unfreakingstoppable. its not like hes the spectre and cant take it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
quit with ur nonsense. merged with is not the same as presence by himself. thats another story. spectre merged loses to thanos.

And Thanos with the Heart is not the same as the TOAA by himself...what's your point.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I can do both.

If you set yourself up to look ridiculous by making an foolish nonresponse to a statement of mine you'll get what's coming to ya.

This sin't debating, these type of responses will be ignored.

I'm not into this war of words thing dude, let's debate or not.

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
And Thanos with the Heart is not the same as the TOAA by himself...what's your point. isnt it painfully obvious. thanos can handle the power while spectre cant.

Originally posted by Mr Master
This sin't debating, these type of responses will be ignored.

I'm not into this war of words thing dude, let's debate or not.

Right . . . right . . .

Clever of you to ignore my entire post though. Shows real maturity and debating skill

This is what I do.

Let's keep it civil and respectful even if we disagree.


Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The THREAT was from Ancient Egypt. Horus wasn't coming from the past to the future.

The oversized text won't change the fact that the PAST and FUTURE of the 616 Reality,

are situated in separate UniverseS if visited from the PRESENT.



Timelines are Realities in of themselves.


Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.

http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm

ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616

are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.





Anything further argue with Marvel about it, they're the ones establishing this as FACT..
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Although It makes perfect sense though,

how can the Future the Past and the Present be all happening simultaneously within the same Space? shrug

Impossible.

The Reality that occupies "the Present" is the 616 Universe,

The Realities that occupy "the Past" or "the Future" of the 616 Universe,
are core continuum designated Alternate Realities/Universes,

because the Past ALREADY took place and because the FUTURE hasn't yet.



Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Aknehaten spent time going from the past to the future just like everyone else did.

Akhenaten is from Reality/Universe 4321 ... the same Reality/Universe Horus is from.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Unless you want to claim that everytime someone walks into a room after being called there they've jumped though time.

dontgetit

Originally posted by quanchi112
he was no threat. no one was thats the cool thing about thanos in the end. he was unfreakingstoppable. its not like hes the spectre and cant take it.

I guess your forgetting the part where Adam was smarter and didn't get used like Thanos was

Originally posted by Mr Master
This is what I do.

Let's keep it civil and respectful even if we disagree.




The oversized text won't change the fact that the PAST and FUTURE of the 616 Reality,

are situated in separate UniverseS if visited from the PRESENT.



Timelines are Realities in of themselves.


Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,
in the officially sponsored Marvel site.

http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm

ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616

are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities.





Anything further argue with Marvel about it, they're the ones establishing this as FACT..
.............................................................................

Although It makes perfect sense though,

how can the Future the Past and the Present be all happening simultaneously within the same Space? shrug

Impossible.

The Reality that occupies "the Present" is the 616 Universe,

The Realities that occupy "the Past" or "the Future" of the 616 Universe,
are core continuum designated Alternate Realities/Universes,

because the Past ALREADY took place and because the FUTURE hasn't yet.





Akhenaten is from Reality/Universe 4321 ... the same Reality/Universe Horus is from.



dontgetit nice job.

Originally posted by kevdude
I guess your forgetting the part where Adam was smarter and didn't get used like Thanos was that is a feat hwile thanos was the right man for the job, soemone like spectre couldnt handle it. it also doesnt change the fact that anyone other than the supreme being could beat thanos in this story. everything else was childs play.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Clever of you to ignore my entire post though. Shows real maturity and debating skill

Spoke too soon again dude,

but I am showing maturity and I did show debating skill.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Spoke too soon again dude,

but I am showing maturity and I did show debating skill. cosigned.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The oversized text won't change the fact that the PAST and FUTURE of the 616 Reality,

are situated in separate UniverseS if visited from the PRESENT.

No it won't. That also doesn't matter unless you can prove that Horus wasn't in 616 when he headed off to join the other Skyfathers.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Although It makes perfect sense though,

how can the Future the Past and the Present be all happening simultaneously within the same Space? shrug

Impossible.

dontgetit Haven't you ever heard of . . . time? Thats what separates past present and future in our world.

However thats irrelevant to this.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Akhenaten is from Reality/Universe 4321 ... the same Reality/Universe Horus is from.

So there's only one Horus all of the multiverse? Or do you have some evidence to prove that this Horus is from 4321?

Originally posted by Mr Master
dontgetit

If you separate every instant into another universe then thats what you're saying.

In fact that mean every time a person looks into the past they've crossed dimensional boundaries. Spidey's precog makes him a multiversal being as well.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Spoke too soon again dude

Again?

Originally posted by Mr Master
but I am showing maturity and I did show debating skill.

Debating skill? Sure.
Maturity?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Debating skill? Sure.

Thanx.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Maturity?

Well I kept my cool while replying to sarcasm and jokes aside from the relevant parts of your post.

You're a great debator, you don't need the comedy to shine.


Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
No it won't. That also doesn't matter unless you can prove that Horus wasn't in 616 when he headed off to join the other Skyfathers.


Already did.


Akhenaten if from Reality 4321 "Ancient Egypt" ...

and Vishnu said,
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/7856/thoi4vl7.th.jpg

"Odd that Lord Horus arrives late to a meet concerning dire peril EMANATING from Ancient Egypt"

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And again,

Thanos and Zeus differentiated the UniverseS:

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9029/thotiwq3.th.jpg

"Tis also THIER Universe (like 4321) that be imperiled"

And Thanos says,

"meanwhile Doctor Doom was also having HIS Universe (616) badly shaken"

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Haven't you ever heard of . . . time? Thats what separates past present and future in our world.

Not in Marvel Comics.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Here is a comprehensive list of all the Alternate Earths including diverged Realities,

in the officially sponsored Marvel site.

http://www.marvunapp.com/list/appalte.htm

ALL the possible Futures of 616, the Futures of 616 and the Past of 616

are ALL located in separate UniverseS/Realities .

Here's is Reality/Universe 1602 being Created On Panel,

just because Captain America was thrown into that Time period.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_92-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

That Universe (1602) Created itself just to accommodate the Anomalous presence
of CA within that Time loop the Year 1602.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
So there's only one Horus all of the multiverse?

Akhenaten was from Reality 4321,

Vishnu associated Horus' Reality with Akhenaten's ... though I'll concede it's remotely possible Horus came from another Reality/Universe that also mirrors Ancient Egypt.

After all, according to Marvel,

every second in Time is a potential Universe.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Or do you have some evidence to prove that this Horus is from 4321?

Like I said,

it's remotely possible Horus came from another Reality/Universe that also mirrors Ancient Egypt.

But,

it's still ANother Universe/Reality and that was my main point.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
If you separate every instant into another universe then thats what you're saying.

Well every moment is a possible Future in Marvel.

For example,

The year 1170, Monday, at 12:00 pm, Zero seconds, is a Universe.

The year 1170, Monday, at 12:00 pm, ONE Second, is another Universe

and on and on.
........................................................................................

When you travel to a specific Time and Day, Time configures Reality to accommodate your Anomalous presence (because you don't belong there)

If that exact moment has been visited before, then you would be visiting a pre-existing Diverged Reality, because someone prior to you caused it's Creation.

This is how it works in Marvel,

this Link jumps you to my thread, where I posted an On Panel example (Creation of the 1602 Universe)

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_92-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In fact that mean every time a person looks into the past they've crossed dimensional boundaries.

Actually you have to Physically enter the Past.

This causes a Temporal Anomaly and creates a Universe (the Reality you're visiting)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Spidey's precog makes him a multiversal being as well.

Have a good night.

Probably a stalemate.

I'd give it to the Spectre. Seeing he actually joined with God and THOTI isn't a part of God, its his power and an object unlike The Source. Thanos almost died during The End also so what does that tell us?? Death is still around!! It also shows in Marvel that they have a object that can take out there most powerful beings other than TOAA and Death herself..

There is nothing debate about here.
It's either a stalemate or Spectre wins since he was the Presence.

If merged Spectre is the Presence giving him his full power, why wasn't this thread Presence vs Thanos HOTU?

Thanos HOTU had to die to recreate the universe. He didn't kill Mistress Death and Adam Warlock.

Presence/Merged Spectre FTW

Originally posted by Skeets
This is what he means by merged Spectre...
http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/7062/spectre19975816md3.jpg
In a sense he replaced "God" for that instant...

He was just merged with The Source.

The Source is not equal to the Presence as far as I know. Most people surmise that the Source is some manifestation of The Presence from what I hear but is it the totality of His power? It would seem very doubtful.

if the spectre is fully merged with the presance and thanos has the power of TOAA then nobody wins simple as that

Originally posted by kevdude
I'd give it to the Spectre. Seeing he actually joined with God and THOTI isn't a part of God, its his power and an object unlike The Source. Thanos almost died during The End also so what does that tell us?? Death is still around!! It also shows in Marvel that they have a object that can take out there most powerful beings other than TOAA and Death herself.. no way. spectre did nothing on panel to even suggest that he could beat thanos with the heart, thanos was untouchable against anyone other than presence himself or TOAA. its that simple. u even said ur self that porr spectre couldnt handle it. thanos wins with ease.

Originally posted by Mider999
if the spectre is fully merged with the presance and thanos has the power of TOAA then nobody wins simple as that spectre has done nothing to show what he is truly capable of while thanos crushed the competition. in theory it could perhaps be viewed as a stalemate. but thats about it. in reality thanos wins this as spectre cant even handle the power while thanos does it fine. thanos for the easy win.

Originally posted by Estacado
There is nothing debate about here.
It's either a stalemate or Spectre wins since he was the Presence. ur wrong. thanos wins this with ease. spectre cant even handle this power while thanos can.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
If merged Spectre is the Presence giving him his full power, why wasn't this thread Presence vs Thanos HOTU?

Thanos HOTU had to die to recreate the universe. He didn't kill Mistress Death and Adam Warlock.

Presence/Merged Spectre FTW this isnt the presence vs thanos. its spectre merged, and it was said earlier that spectre couldnt ahnlde this kind of power. if he cant handle he loses with ease. simple as that.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
He was just merged with The Source.

The Source is not equal to the Presence as far as I know. Most people surmise that the Source is some manifestation of The Presence from what I hear but is it the totality of His power? It would seem very doubtful.
Go to the thread and read the rest of it....
I'm too lazy to post it...

Originally posted by Skeets
Go to the thread and read the rest of it....
I'm too lazy to post it... it won tchange the outcome of this fight. thanos wins this as it has been proven that spectre cant handle the power. thanos handles his just fine.

Hey Skeets what did the retard say?

Originally posted by Estacado
Hey Skeets what did the retard say? i said spectre loses here and badly.

Originally posted by Estacado
Hey Skeets what did the retard say?
This person is on your Ignore List. To view this post click

Unless you're referring to another one...31

313

this still isnt changing the outcome of this fight. i cant understand why anyone puts anyone on ignore in here. we come here to debate, not hide from it. well...whatever to each his own. i will continue to make my points. point here is that spectre isnt capable of handling the power on his own. basically if thanos left him a room by himself. the spectre would wig out. thanos for the win any way he wants it.

Originally posted by Estacado
There is nothing debate about here.
Spectre wins I edited a little.

Who is quanchi talking to?

Stalemate

Originally posted by Juntai
I edited a little.
Agreed....31Originally posted by Estacado
Who is quanchi talking to?
vegetajv2

I already read all the relevant scans regarding the thing with the Source.

So...don't care. I was asking a question.

Originally posted by Nikkolas
I already read all the relevant scans regarding the thing with the Source.

So...don't care. I was asking a question.
Than you'd know that the Spectre replaced/became the Presence at that time.

the spectre couldnt handle all the power. meaning he could only occupy this power for a limited amount of time. who knows how well he could do against a powerhouse opponent. spectre would crack under the pressure while thanos would just simply win.

Originally posted by kevdude
I'd give it to the Spectre. Seeing he actually joined with God and THOTI isn't a part of God, its his power and an object unlike The Source.

God's power should be a part of him. (like Michael is a part of the Presence)

THOTI is not an object, it's a Source of formless Energy (the Almighty's Power)

Thanos was everything within the Omniverse.

Originally posted by kevdude
Thanos almost died during The End also so what does that tell us??

I don't remember this ever happening.

What issue# and page?

Originally posted by kevdude
Death is still around!!

So was Gamora, Warlock and all the Universal Anchors.

Why?

Because they were all Beyond Space and Time.

Thanos only absorbed All of Space & Time within Reality.

Originally posted by kevdude
It also shows in Marvel that they have a object that can take out there most powerful beings other than TOAA and Death herself..

Thanos absorbed all of Space and Time (Reality)

Death, amongst others, was Outside of Space & Time.

Spectre ftw.

I would go with Thanos, why?
1. Because I like Marvel better.

2. Because he had the raw power of The-One-Above-All, not just an aspect of the supreme beings power (like the Source is a aspect along with the Hand and the Voice)

3. Because he effortlessly defeated the only being bellow the supreme being, while the Source is like second in DC.

Originally posted by Merlyn
Spectre ftw. any on panel evidence of the spectre doing anything better than thanos in the end????im waiting. thanos wins this.

Originally posted by Skeets
Than you'd know that the Spectre replaced/became the Presence at that time.
Are you saying that that the Source equals the Presence :wierd-sarcastic-redneck-smily:

This thread is... ridiculous... putting it nicely.

Originally posted by Tyrant
This thread is... ridiculous... putting it nicely. whats ur opinion on the matter?

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes a lot of people really have no evidence and just go with dc cuz of their hatred of marvel. its really funny. thanos wins this with ease. just as easy as he beat the lt. spectre would go down hard. You're doing that thing again... what is it?
Oh ya, typing.

Stop it.

Originally posted by Tyrant
You're doing that thing again... what is it?
Oh ya, typing.

Stop it. ok u 15 year old kid. ill do whatever you say. worry about getting ur license and dont ever try to tell me what to do. its also silly in my opinion to come into a thread and call it silly. if its so silly stay out of it and post where u want. make a decision in this thread or otherwise dont speak to....k, thanks

i feel the marvel hate here. but its unfounded. its a shame to becuz thanos the guy from marvel utterly destroys the guy from dc called the spectre.

Originally posted by Tyrant
So, him spouting bullshit is stating facts?

Yes, people say Spectre wins, or stalemates, because they hate Marvel...
Glad you agree.

Also, I'm not flaming, I'm stating facts (oops... hypocrite ).
Do you need me to spell it out, how these are facts?

I mean, if he can state facts, then why can't I? thanos crushing the lt like he was some insignifant gnat was a fact. when did i lie?

I never said you lied, learn how to read.
I said you spouted bullshit.

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok u 15 year old kid. ill do whatever you say. worry about getting ur license and dont ever try to tell me what to do. its also silly in my opinion to come into a thread and call it silly. if its so silly stay out of it and post where u want. make a decision in this thread or otherwise dont speak to....k, thanks Funny eh?
You mock me because you think it counts by age.

Yet, I've trumped you in intelligence.
Weird...

Also, it's you and your back-to-back baseless assumptions.

OMg u guyz hate marvle cuz thanso losess!!!1

It's annoying to say the least.

Anyway, stalemate.

Originally posted by Tyrant
Funny eh?
You mock me because you think it counts by age.

Yet, I've trumped you in intelligence.
Weird...

Also, it's you and your back-to-back baseless assumptions.

OMg u guyz hate marvle cuz thanso losess!!!1

Anyway, stalemate. i support my arguments with on panel evidence. i mock u becuz u attack me for no reason. i hate when people think they are badasses online and talk trash for no reason. stick to the topic. use evidence to support ur argument. nuff said. argue the thread dont argue with me. why is this a stalemate? what has spectre done that puts him in the same league as thnos from the end....waiting for examples..........a baseless argument is for me to say thanos wins.....but for someone to say spectre stalemates with no evidence as to why he does isnt baseless..........

So you haven't even read the book but you keep smarting around.....

Originally posted by Tyrant
So, you agree?
Hmm... so whoever says Spectre wins hates Marvel.

Now, you can't tell me, that's not great logic!


Problem here.
I really couldn't give a shit about this topic.


Um, that was a fact, if you haven't been paying attention.

Was he typing? Yes. Fact.

Problem here is, that you don't know the difference between a fact, and on topic.

I didn't say anything about who would win.



So, Mr Master has scans showing, that if people say Spectre wins, that they hate Marvel?

What issue was that? ok i get that u dont care about this topic or this thread. so just leave and dont come back here. i dont go posting where i could care less about. i wouldnt bother wasting my time if i didnt care to post my opinion. u say its a stalemate....either answer my question and tell me why u have to come to this conclusion or go somewhere u care to post. ....the options are simple

Originally posted by quanchi112
ok i get that u dont care about this topic or this thread. so just leave and dont come back here. i dont go posting where i could care less about. i wouldnt bother wasting my time if i didnt care to post my opinion. u say its a stalemate....either answer my question and tell me why u have to come to this conclusion or go somewhere u care to post. ....the options are simple It's pointless for you to try and tell me logic, so I'll answer the 'stalemate' question.

Spectre was basically God.
Universes resided in him, and he was part of it all.