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Phoenix.

Hyperstorm has access to an unlimited power source, however he was limited in the amount of that power he could employ at any given time.

Thats why he lost horribly to Galactus. Galactus isnt hooked up to an infinite energy reservoir, he has finite resources and must constantly refuel, however the amount of energy he can employ at any given time is far greater than Hyperstorm could which is why Galactus could overpower him and turn him into his personal energy supply.


As for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.

For some reason some people have interpreted that scene as Psi Lord literally creating a creation event and using it against his enemy despite him never before or ever since having displayed that power level. Forget the fact that it was likely a play on words and referencing the resulting big bang(the sound) that ensued from his attack.

Either way, Psi Lord has never done anything particularly impressive, therefore him and Hyperstorm, against the Phoenix would get stomped.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm



As for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.



Just remembered. It was Vangaard

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix.
Psi-Lord stalemates Phoenix, both are able to destroy Alternate Universes.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Hyperstorm has access to an unlimited power source, however he was limited in the amount of that power he could employ at any given time.

Thats why he lost horribly to Galactus. Galactus isnt hooked up to an infinite energy reservoir, he has finite resources and must constantly refuel, however the amount of energy he can employ at any given time is far greater than Hyperstorm could which is why Galactus could overpower him and turn him into his personal energy supply.
Hyperstorm is a joke, I won't argue that.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

As for Psi Lord. There is a scan that has been paraded around these forums of Psi Lord loading up a rock with energy and throwing it at some enemy(cant remember his name lol) and telling him to take the "Big Bang" or something of that nature.

For some reason some people have interpreted that scene as Psi Lord literally creating a creation event and using it against his enemy despite him never before or ever since having displayed that power level. Forget the fact that it was likely a play on words and referencing the resulting big bang(the sound) that ensued from his attack.
Classic GS in the house,
devaluing the feats of others to promote the Phoenix,
goodness! .. Not that expected anything else.


Anywho .. this is silly, Psi-Lord exploded that Universe, simple and plain.

Tearing asunder Space/Time itself on a Big Bang scale is,

blowing up a Universe.

No question about it.

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Makes perfect sense why he attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him.
(although even that, didn't work)

Vangaard was going to erase their own Timeline,
like Huntara said:

"only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction


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Psi-Lord attacked Vangaard by imploding the Universe around him:

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Psi-Lord explodes an entire Universe in Vangaard's face:

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/483288_Psi.jpg

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/6461/v6ec6eb5.th.jpg

"Brace yourselves for the Big Bang"


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http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1415/v7bu1tm0.th.jpg

"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Even Psi-Lord wouldn't have survived,
he had to escape into a Sub-pocket of Space withIN his armor:

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7582/psi2wb8gi0.th.jpg

"An inspired stratagem Psi-Lord,
taking refuge from the implosion withIN your personal Sub-Space Pocket"


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Huntara confirms that the Anti-matter implosion is of a staggering magnitude,
and only the gravest of circumstances,
could cause Psi-Lord to initiate such destruction:

http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/3091/v3he1.th.jpg


The incredible Vangaard is unfazed!

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More proof that it was indeed an entire Universe Psi-lord imploded:


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A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4338/psi2ji4.th.jpg

"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers
lay now at the whim, of Diablo"


Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Either way, Psi Lord has never done anything particularly impressive, therefore him and Hyperstorm, against the Phoenix would get stomped.

Phoenix for the win

Huntara further verifies the nature of the attack by referring to the anti-matter implosion after Psi Lords attack:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7751/fantasticforceno012p16wu3.th.jpg

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/1596/fantasticforceno012p17ck4.th.jpg


In fact as the above two scans show, after Psi Lords attack, Huntara and the others were able to turn around and witness Psi Lords attack from a vantage point within the very much intact Elsewhen dimension that you would have us believe Psi Lord destroyed.

"That light within the southern most sky.....An anti-matter implosion."

This shows that even if it was a literal Big Bang (which it wasn't), it was a minute scale one and nowhere near the level of a proper one. It neither destroyed a dimension, or that much of the landscape. The other heroes were fine from their vantage point

Originally posted by starlock
Phoenix for the win

Indubitably

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Huntara further verifies the nature of the attack by referring to the anti-matter implosion after Psi Lords attack:

In fact as the above two scans show, after Psi Lords attack, Huntara and the others were able to turn around and witness Psi Lords attack from a vantage point within the very much intact Elsewhen dimension that you would have us believe Psi Lord destroyed.

"That light within the southern most sky.....An anti-matter implosion."



They weren't even in Elsewhen,
Huntara & company had just slipped out of that Dimension into Elsewhen,
through one of her spacial rifts,
they witnessed the implosion from withIN the rift.

http://s2d2.turboimagehost.com/t/548182_Huntara.jpg

"Though my Scythe be all but annihilated,
may it still weld sufficient energies to see us safely away"

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Here's Huntara & friends from outside their Timeline,
watching Vanguaard erase 4 entire UniverseS back to back:

http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/8882/v2we7.th.jpg

yawn

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

This shows that even if it was a literal Big Bang (which it wasn't), it was a minute scale one and nowhere near the level of a proper one. It neither destroyed a dimension, or that much of the landscape. The other heroes were fine from their vantage point
You need to read comics,
you seem to be out the loop dogs.

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Fallacies aside, confirmation that Space & Time was obliterated!

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/1415/v7bu1tm0.th.jpg

"Space/Time itself has been torn asunder"

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Confirmation from a witness that an entire Universe was destroyed!

A few issues later,
Diablo is trying to mind control Psi-lord and She Hulk with stipulations,
he recalls Psi-lord's power during the arc vs Vangaard,
where Diablo was in disguise:

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4338/psi2ji4.th.jpg

"The conquest of Franklin Richards has been achieved,
limitless UNIVERSE SHATTERING Psionic powers
lay now at the whim, of Diablo"

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Next ...

Good try Emmie, but your misinterpretation stands revealed to us all.

I dont need to counter your counter attempt quote for quote when my previous posts have this issue handled.

Franklin states that he was attacking with anti matter wrapped in a force field.

Huntara says they will be annihilated if they stay so she prays that her scythe can carry her and her companions to safety. That is all


Nowhere was it ever stated that she was transporting herself and the others into another dimension. And given the fact that she looks back and sees Psi Lords "anti-matter implosion" in the "southern-most sky" that conclusively shows you that she merely transported a distance away so she wasn't at Ground Zero.

Nowhere is it stated on panel that that dimension was destroyed

and nowhere is it stated that Huntara teleported into another dimension. Therefore you have no justification to state the contrary.

The game is up, Psi Lord didnt even destroy a planet, your misinterpretation whilst unfortunate for you, is rather amusing

Once again.

Good try

Unless you're gonna show us where its stated that Huntara took them outside of Elsewhen(Despite her being able to turn around and see Psi Lords attack in "the southern-most sky"

Unless you're going to show us where its stated that the dimension was destroyed after Psi Lords attack(Which will be pretty hard to do considering Huntara was able to watch the aftermath of the attack from a vantage point within the same dimension)

Then give it a rest mate

I have no idea what those two posts say, but I'm sure it involves firefirefireph
but just wanted to give you an update,
if you haven't realized, you're talking to yourself.

So, jump around, pat yourself on the back,
scream, "I am king" ...
tell me "your misinterpretation" blah, blah, blah, sincerely ... who

Proof was posted, you want to spin it to your liking, do you, no one's being fooled.

Peace & love. ... no need to enter this thread again.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I have no idea what those two posts say, but I'm sure it involves firefirefireph
but just wanted to give you an update,
if you haven't realized, you're talking to yourself.

So, jump around, pat yourself on the back,
scream, "I am king" ...
tell me "your misinterpretation" blah, blah, blah, sincerely ... who

Proof was posted, you want to spin it to your liking, do you, no one's being fooled.

Peace & love. ... no need to enter this thread again.

Typical response from someone who has been left stumped

You presented no new evidence. As per usual, you just repeated your opinion.

Nowhere on panel is it stated that Huntara teleported into another dimension in her attempt to flee Psi Lords attack.

That is an assumption made by yourself, one you have no justification in making and presenting as fact.

The fact that she reappears in a similar looking environment to the one she left and then turns around and sees Psi Lords attack in the southern-most sky confirms:

1) That contrary to your assumption, she teleported to a vantage point within the same environment

2) That Psi Lords attack did not destroy the entire dimension

Diablos comments in a different issue, on a different matter are irrelevant as they are not specifically related to the Elsewhen situation. Its just Diablo referring to the scale of Psi Lords psi powers. Elsewhen is not referred to by Diablo therefore it is not conclusively supportive of your interpretation. Sorry mate

Please show us where it states on panel that Huntara teleported into another dimension to escape, because as far as we see on panel, she just teleported far enough away to be safe, but close enough for her to see the attack in "the southern-most sky"

Please show us where it states that the Elsewhen dimension was destroyed. The heroes are shown within the dimension after Psi Lords attack and in the end Vangaard leaves them in said dimension and flies off.

No waffle, no reposts, just show us where its stated.

Thank you.

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Originally posted by GalacticStorm
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If Psylord landed a universe ending attack, why is Universe still intact?

Originally posted by id369
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If Psylord landed a universe ending attack, why is Universe still intact?

Got a response Mr Master?

The Mighty Galactus win.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Got a response Mr Master? he's AWOL. did you miss his rant?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10870388&highlight=userid%3A88754#post10870388

Originally posted by Galan007
he's AWOL. did you miss his rant?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10870388&highlight=userid%3A88754#post10870388

I did actually.

That was funny. Digi was just genuinely showing some concern for the guy and he threw a hissy fit.

He'll be back. Whether its as Mr Master or another guise.

Hopefully, he will return

Originally posted by Galan007
he's AWOL. did you miss his rant?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10870388&highlight=userid%3A88754#post10870388

I chuckled a bit. I don't feel bad. Should I feel bad?

Originally posted by id369
I chuckled a bit. I don't feel bad. Should I feel bad?

Probably not

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I wouldn't even bother. We've handled that many times in the past.

He had to waffle on so much because his theory has so many holes in it. So he had to try and patch them up with irrelevant references.

It all looked impressive on the surface. ( I mean who heres gonna bother to actually read that all and analyse it? ) But if you did bother to do that, you can see it was a complete mess.

The reason he's so obsessed with the White Hot Room feat is that if he can't sway forum opinion to his delusions, then people will see what a mess his hierarchy was.

Did you look at the Fantastic Force scans in this thread?

I cant believe he tried to make people think Psi Lord destroyed that universe.

to every word. I too found the entire thread hilarious and the title just a little pretentious "the final debate" indeed

Originally posted by Galan007
he's AWOL. did you miss his rant?

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=10870388&highlight=userid%3A88754#post10870388

Happy Days are here again, da da dada da da dada

Feel sorry? Hope he comes back? ahahhahahah

Phoenix wins this

I attempted to make a Cosmic Hierarchy thread. But I was overwhelmed by the amount of retcons, shitty writings, and slew of contradictions. So I just left it be.

Oh and I think Mr. Master will be back.

Originally posted by id369
I attempted to make a Cosmic Hierarchy thread. But I was overwhelmed by the amount of retcons, shitty writings, and slew of contradictions. So I just left it be.

Oh and I think Mr. Master will be back.

Well if you ever do decide to go ahead and make one, i'll help you out.

People have been asking me for ages to make one, but i've just got way too many commitments.