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In an all intergalactic war.

Annihilus leads the Annihilation Wave.
Ultron leads the Phalanx
Sinestro Leads its Corps



This is at their vary height of their alliances and resources.

You mean Sinestro gats AM and Cyborg Supes and Prime under his standard?

Hmmm... Since Annihilus has Thanos as advisor, he wins. That, and he sucks all the energy outta Ultron with Cosmic Control Rod, Galactus-style. Without the big U Phalanx goes down hard.

Sinestro and SC Corps win.

Annihilus had the "Galactus gun"

Enter Galactus, who soloes the three team.

1. Annihilus leads the Annihilation Wave.
~ Out number the other armies by 10 fold.
~ Galactus gun.
~ Energy base attacks have little effect on Annihilus.

2. Sinestro Leads its Corps

3. Ultron leads the Phalanx
~ Horrible story arc.

Eh, Anti Monitor for the destruction?

The AW as a whole consisted of: the 'Galactus-Gun' + Tenebrous + Aegis + Thanos + a ridiculous amount of other troops. I don't see the other teams overvcoming that, personally.

Originally posted by Galan007
The AW as a whole consisted of: the 'Galactus-Gun' + Tenebrous + Aegis + Thanos + a ridiculous amount of other troops. I don't see the other teams overvcoming that, personally.

Aegis and Tenebrous are the main dogs, as the Galactus gun is basically just 3 planetary busting shots it seems.

But Aegis and Tenebrous only helped out the annihilus wave once, against Galactus/Surfer. That was clearly because they had a grudge against Galactus, I doubt they would help Annihilus/Thanos out against the Sinestro Corps.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Aegis and Tenebrous are the main dogs, as the Galactus gun is basically just 3 planetary busting shots it seems.

But Aegis and Tenebrous only helped out the annihilus wave once, against Galactus/Surfer. That was clearly because they had a grudge against Galactus, I doubt they would help Annihilus/Thanos out against the Sinestro Corps. srug

I assumed that the thread starter intended for every member to be included - and if that is the case, AW ftw.

Annihilus' team stomps.

Originally posted by Galan007
srug

I assumed that the thread starter intended for every member to be included - and if that is the case, AW ftw.

I dunno man, Anti Monitor is strong.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I dunno man, Anti Monitor is strong. He wasn't even up to full power. Aegis and tenebrous are more than powerful enough to defeat him.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I dunno man, Anti Monitor is strong. This AM wasn't very impressive at all.

Originally posted by Galan007
This AM wasn't very impressive at all.

Yeah, he was very weak compared to his former self. He still looked heaps more powerful than any of the Guardians though.

Though he doesn't look stronger than Annihilus...

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah, he was very weak compared to his former self. He still looked heaps more powerful than any of the Guardians though. That isn't saying much. The guardians haven't looked so hot as of late.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yeah, he was very weak compared to his former self. He still looked heaps more powerful than any of the Guardians though. True, but imo, the Sinestro Corps' only prayer would be if AM had enough time to unleash an Anti-Matter Wave. If not, they'd get smoked.

Originally posted by Galan007
True, but imo, the Sinestro Corps' only prayer would be if AM had enough time to unleash an Anti-Matter Wave. If not, they'd get smoked.

Yup.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Yup. Remember though, it took SC AM quite a while to even begin manifesting the Wave (long enough for several characters to react offensively to it.) That's why I don't think it would help much in this battle.

Hmm...

Yeah, I'd have to side with the Annihilation Wave. Firepower and sheer numbers are in their favor.

Also, as an aside question, given that Annihilus is from the Negative Zone, which is the anti-matter universe of Marvel, would the Anti-Monitor's anti-matter wave work on Annihilus and his troops given that they already consist of anti-matter and the wave works along the matter/anti-matter reaction?

Originally posted by illadelph12
Hmm...

Yeah, I'd have to side with the Annihilation Wave. Firepower and sheer numbers are in their favor.

Also, as an aside question, given that Annihilus is from the Negative Zone, which is the anti-matter universe of Marvel, would the Anti-Monitor's anti-matter wave work on Annihilus and his troops given that they already consist of anti-matter and the wave works along the matter/anti-matter reaction? The Anti-Monitor should be able to absorb/control them if thats the case.

Originally posted by illadelph12
Also, as an aside question, given that Annihilus is from the Negative Zone, which is the anti-matter universe of Marvel, would the Anti-Monitor's anti-matter wave work on Annihilus and his troops given that they already consist of anti-matter and the wave works along the matter/anti-matter reaction? If that's the case, AM might be able to manipulate them. Aside from that, even if Anti-matter energy did not have an effect on Annihilus, or the like - if it were at least sufficient to take out T&A, Thanos, and the G-gun, the AW would be rendered rather useless.

I just think they could stop him before he released the AM Wave.

Originally posted by Galan007
If that's the case, AM might be able to manipulate them. Aside from that, even if Anti-matter energy did not have an effect on Annihilus, or the like - if it were at least sufficient to take out T&A, Thanos, and the G-gun, the AW would be rendered rather useless.

I just think they could stop him before he released the AM Wave. Anti-Monitor may be able to generate an anti-matter wave, but the extent with which he could manipulate beings or energies developed in an anti-matter universe is improbable. If he could mold beings made of anti-matter or manipulate any anti-matter energies any which way he'd want, he wouldn't need to employ the Weaponers of Qward as slaves in the original Crisis. Nor would the Weaponers have been able to physically assault him when Barry Allen used Psycho Pirate's power to turn them against Anti-Monitor.

DC's anti-matter universe and Marvel's Negative Zone have certain traits that outright reference traditional anti-matter and analogize their traits, but neither of them really act like anti-matter, nor do the beings, energies or artifacts from said universes. Otherwise, Annihilus, or Blastaar's blasts or even a simple Sinestro Corps ring would blow up upon contact with something as simple as a positive matter atmosphere.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The A-Wave is insanely powerful since their other resources included the Seekers, the Centurions, Ravenous, Delinquent, Terrax, Paibok, and teleportation tech able to move entire armadas.

Ultron lacks the fire power Annihilus is packing. Even his selects were not compare to Ravenous and the Seekers, except possibly Xemnu. While Sinestro's team is lacking in canon fodders both the Phalanx and A-Wave have.

Just this A-Wave team can match the Sinestro Corps in fire power (excluding AM):

Thanos
Skreet
Annihilus
Ravenous
Terrax
Delinquent
Paibok

Fodders:
The Seekers
The Centurions And the Harvester of sorrows which destroyed planets.

Thanks, had forgotten about that.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Thanks, had forgotten about that. great sig

Originally posted by Nihilist
great sig Kiss ass.

sinestro corp

superman prime
sinestro and the yellow lanterns
cyborg superman
parallex having posessed ion
anti monitor


aegis and tenebrous were never allied with annihlus.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
sinestro corp

superman prime
sinestro and the yellow lanterns
cyborg superman
parallex having posessed ion
anti monitor


aegis and tenebrous were never allied with annihlus. Did you read it?

^yes, annihlation and annihlation conquest both. why do you care?

Originally posted by Nihilist
great sig

Because T&A were allied with Annihilus.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^yes, annihlation and annihlation conquest both. why do you care? Who defeated Galactus?

Originally posted by Galan007
The AW as a whole consisted of: the 'Galactus-Gun' + Tenebrous + Aegis + Thanos + a ridiculous amount of other troops. I don't see the other teams overvcoming that, personally.
^ This.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anti-Monitor may be able to generate an anti-matter wave, but the extent with which he could manipulate beings or energies developed in an anti-matter universe is improbable. If he could mold beings made of anti-matter or manipulate any anti-matter energies any which way he'd want, he wouldn't need to employ the Weaponers of Qward as slaves in the original Crisis. Nor would the Weaponers have been able to physically assault him when Barry Allen used Psycho Pirate's power to turn them against Anti-Monitor.

DC's anti-matter universe and Marvel's Negative Zone have certain traits that outright reference traditional anti-matter and analogize their traits, but neither of them really act like anti-matter, nor do the beings, energies or artifacts from said universes. Otherwise, Annihilus, or Blastaar's blasts or even a simple Sinestro Corps ring would blow up upon contact with something as simple as a positive matter atmosphere.

AM has ludicrous energy control, so don't assume he can't manipulate it. 2nd, the weaponers were SLAVES. He didn't need them at all. Look what he did to Qward. The weaponers didn't do shit to him, just pissed him off.

I call BS on anything surviving the wave if he gets it going. The only reason he didn't nuke Qward was because he owned the place. He was perfectly willing to destroy it when he needed more juice.

Regarding Sin Corp, the rings automatically adjust from positive matter to anti-matter during travel between the universes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Who defeated Galactus?

i think it was aegis and tenebrous, dont hold me to it though. one was battling his in the front while the other one got him with a blast in the back. then with thanos's research on how cosmic power worked, annihlus hooked him up to his mother ship like a crucifix and used him to drain planets of their power to feed his wave while all the time he was starving to death, but actually waiting so that he WUD die and like a bomb, take out the entire universe other than annihlus with him. then i think, thanos found out and was trying to release him but drax came, fored his forcefield away with his bare hands and killed him for treating moondragon the way he did, only to find out what he was doing, then i think surfer did sumthing with his energy to release galactus and galactus in his fury took out one third or two third of the entire annihlation wave and three planet systems in an infero which annihlus sirvived................... errr, r u satisfied now?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think it was aegis and tenebrous, dont hold me to it though. one was battling his in the front while the other one got him with a blast in the back. then with thanos's research on how cosmic power worked, annihlus hooked him up to his mother ship like a crucifix and used him to drain planets of their power to feed his wave while all the time he was starving to death, but actually waiting so that he WUD die and like a bomb, take out the entire universe other than annihlus with him. then i think, thanos found out and was trying to release him but drax came, fored his forcefield away with his bare hands and killed him for treating moondragon the way he did, only to find out what he was doing, then i think surfer did sumthing with his energy to release galactus and galactus in his fury took out one third or two third of the entire annihlation wave and three planet systems in an infero which annihlus sirvived................... errr, r u satisfied now? Yes, because Thanos worked it out. They dispatched of Galactus so they are in this thread.


I really can't read through most of your posts anymore as they are all bunched together with no caps or anything coherent.

^dont blame your innate lack of comprehension skill on me man.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^dont blame your innate lack of comprehension skill on me man. Why do this^. You are on the next page. Regardless, Annihilus' team wins this, easily.

^fail.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
then with thanos's research on how cosmic power worked, annihlus hooked him up to his mother ship like a crucifix and used him to drain planets of their power to feed his wave while all the time he was starving to death, but actually waiting so that he WUD die and like a bomb, take out the entire universe other than annihlus with him. then i think, thanos found out and was trying to release him but drax came, fored his forcefield away with his bare hands and killed him for treating moondragon the way he did, only to find out what he was doing, then i think surfer did sumthing with his energy to release galactus and galactus in his fury took out one third or two third of the entire annihlation wave and three planet systems in an infero which annihlus sirvived................... errr, r u satisfied now? That's two sentences.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^fail. Originally posted by Original Smurph
That's two sentences. I think this means you failed. Your posts hurt everyone's eyes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I think this means you failed. Your posts hurt everyone's eyes.

i think it hurts your anus more than any1's eyes.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
i think it hurts your anus more than any1's eyes. Claiming rape while being raped makes one delusional.


Anyways, Annihilus' team takes this. Superior numbers, leadership, etc. for the win.

^but u didnt have to clear that up, ive already said that you were delusional. as such it still doesnt change the fact that it hurts your anus more than any1 else's eyes.

sinestro corp win.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^but u didnt have to clear that up, ive already said that you were delusional. as such it still doesnt change the fact that it hurts your anus more than any1 else's eyes.

sinestro corp win. How does sc win?

dey hav da am!!!!!!!11uno

superman prime
parallex
anti monitor
sinestro and the yellow lanterns
cyborg superman

combined, this team has breater power than the other two.

Originally posted by Original Smurph
That's two sentences. LOL

Originally posted by leonheartmm
superman prime
parallex
anti monitor
sinestro and the yellow lanterns
cyborg superman

combined, this team has breater power than the other two. Parallax did nothing of notice. Am was beatn by a few gl's. Sinestro was nothing special. The numbers are well on Annihilus' side. Thanos is by far more powerful than Prime. Prime can be easily defeated by means of a red sun.

Breater lol.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anti-Monitor may be able to generate an anti-matter wave, but the extent with which he could manipulate beings or energies developed in an anti-matter universe is improbable. If he could mold beings made of anti-matter or manipulate any anti-matter energies any which way he'd want, he wouldn't need to employ the Weaponers of Qward as slaves in the original Crisis. Nor would the Weaponers have been able to physically assault him when Barry Allen used Psycho Pirate's power to turn them against Anti-Monitor. The Shadow Demons AM had at his disposal, were composed of pure anti-matter energy - he had no problems controlling them. And even if AM were incapable of manipulating Annihilus/his troops, he should still be able to absorb them. Afterall, he did absorb the entire anti-matter universe (which had incorporated the energies of all but 3 of an infinite amount of positive-matter universes.) *shrug*

AM Universe was 32 zillion lightyears in length.



God, PC writers make me facepalm.

Originally posted by Enyalus
AM Universe was 32 zillion lightyears in length.



God, PC writers make me facepalm. Yeah, that was absolutely ridiculous. Thank jebus they seemingly retconned the specific numerics during '52'.

AW ftw

Originally posted by TricksterPriest
AM has ludicrous energy control, so don't assume he can't manipulate it. 2nd, the weaponers were SLAVES. He didn't need them at all. Look what he did to Qward. The weaponers didn't do shit to him, just pissed him off.I'm not assuming. I'm stating that if it was so easy for him to manipulate beings or energies based on an anti-matter universe, he certainly didn't do so when they started zapping him with their thunderbolts. That runs counter to any speculation that he could manipulate anti-matter beings or energies.Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I call BS on anything surviving the wave if he gets it going. The only reason he didn't nuke Qward was because he owned the place. He was perfectly willing to destroy it when he needed more juice.

Regarding Sin Corp, the rings automatically adjust from positive matter to anti-matter during travel between the universes. Sodam Yat, a Guardian, Superboy Prime and a lot of other beings have tanked anti-matter. Considering that the GL Corps on Earth was able to contain it and a Warworld blast and shunt it into the anti-mater universe, I wasn't impressed with Sinestro Corps Anti-Monitor's anti-matter wave at all.

Where was this stated? Either way, such explanations do not apply to Negative Zone beings, artifacts or energies.Originally posted by Galan007
The Shadow Demons AM had at his disposal, were composed of pure anti-matter energy - he had no problems controlling them. And even if AM were incapable of manipulating Annihilus/his troops, he should still be able to absorb them. Afterall, he did absorb the entire anti-matter universe (which had incorporated the energies of all but 3 of an infinite amount of positive-matter universes.) *shrug* And controlling the Shadow Demons only highlights how his lack of doing the same to the attacking Qwardians throws any theory that he could do the same to Negative Zone beings into baseless speculation. Especially when you consider that Negative Zone beings come from a completely different Multiverse and don't even demonstrate pure anti-matter traits. I don't doubt he can absorb the energy of universes. But that doesn't suggest that Negative Zone beings, energies and artifacts are subject to his merest whims. And Anti-Monitor's ignominious defeat in Sinestro Corps War demonstrates that foes can fight back and a bunch of GLs can contain his most potent attack.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Parallax did nothing of notice. Am was beatn by a few gl's. Sinestro was nothing special. The numbers are well on Annihilus' side. Thanos is by far more powerful than Prime. Prime can be easily defeated by means of a red sun.

Breater lol.

your riding thanos so naturally i dont give a damn what you think on the subject. those are out of context lies for any1 who has read the story by a fanboy.

even the phalanx as it stood cud defeat the enitre annihlation wave barring the galactus gun.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
your riding thanos so naturally i dont give a damn what you think on the subject. those are out of context lies for any1 who has read the story by a fanboy.

even the phalanx as it stood cud defeat the enitre annihlation wave barring the galactus gun.

Euh... no?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
your riding thanos so naturally i dont give a damn what you think on the subject. those are out of context lies for any1 who has read the story by a fanboy.

even the phalanx as it stood cud defeat the enitre annihlation wave barring the galactus gun. Statements like these get you smileys like these.



Anyone claiming the phalanx who shut off an area of space and still lost by the way to far less opposition and saying they could defeat the a-wave is beyond sad.


It took a pissed off Galactus to end the threat and force them to sign a peace treaty. Much more powerful characters were involved in a-wave than the phalanx story.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And controlling the Shadow Demons only highlights how his lack of doing the same to the attacking Qwardians throws any theory that he could do the same to Negative Zone beings into baseless speculation. Because AM showed control over the Shadow Demons, we know that he is certainly capable of manipulating beings composed of anti-matter energy. His not doing so versus the Qwardians was for the sake of the story - thus, could easily be attributed to PIS/CIS.

And of course it's speculation that AM could manipulate beings from negative zone (they are from differing companies, afterall.) But after Illa's question on the second page, we just started pondering the possibilities, is all.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Especially when you consider that Negative Zone beings come from a completely different Multiverse and don't even demonstrate pure anti-matter traits. I don't doubt he can absorb the energy of universes. But that doesn't suggest that Negative Zone beings, energies and artifacts are subject to his merest whims. But if beings from the NZ are composed of anti-matter energy in some fashion, I see no reason why AM would be incapable of at least absorbing them. *shrug*

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And Anti-Monitor's ignominious defeat in Sinestro Corps War demonstrates that foes can fight back and a bunch of GLs can contain his most potent attack. Which is a point I have already made (and also why I feel the AW takes this.) Simply put, SC-AM was a sad shell of his former self.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
your riding thanos so naturally i dont give a damn what you think on the subject. those are out of context lies for any1 who has read the story by a fanboy.

even the phalanx as it stood cud defeat the enitre annihlation wave barring the galactus gun.

The Phalanx couldn't even beat a handful of X-Men when they took over the Shi'Ar empire., but they're going up against Thanos' mind and Annihilus wielding the Quantum Bands? LOL. They were getting pwned by Magneto. The Sentries Ronan released were going to wipe them off the map.

Well, if Ultron leads the Phalanx, their chances are much, much better...

Originally posted by quanchi112
Statements like these get you smileys like these.



Anyone claiming the phalanx who shut off an area of space and still lost by the way to far less opposition and saying they could defeat the a-wave is beyond sad.


It took a pissed off Galactus to end the threat and force them to sign a peace treaty. Much more powerful characters were involved in a-wave than the phalanx story.


smileys like those coming from you concede rape.

ocourse, in your BSing you forgot that the power of the phalanx comes from INFECTING and their towers combined can cut off space and time on a scale that even galactus can not. most of the players in annihlation DID fall prey to their control if you remember. speaking about power, the phalanx can always call on their parent race to suicide end everything, like the galactus gun.

Under Ultron's command Phalanx won't call technarchs.
Because Warlock will **** them up solo. )

and which team is warlock on?

Ultron had Warlocks body.

An army of them. oh, I forgot that.

Tenebrous and Aegis soloes

yes thats the point, warlock cant OPPOSED ultron in any scenario here.

and aegis and tenebris were not part of the annihlation wave. they were set free accidentally and had theirown agendas.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
yes thats the point, warlock cant OPPOSED ultron in any scenario here.

and aegis and tenebris were not part of the annihlation wave. they were set free accidentally and had theirown agendas.

They were the reason why Galactus was turned into the Galactus gun. So they counts.

^no they, dont. they were never part of the ANNIHLATION WAVE, in a similar way that the fallen one and kosmos were never a part of the annihlation wave even though they played a big part in annihlation.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
smileys like those coming from you concede rape.

ocourse, in your BSing you forgot that the power of the phalanx comes from INFECTING and their towers combined can cut off space and time on a scale that even galactus can not. most of the players in annihlation DID fall prey to their control if you remember. speaking about power, the phalanx can always call on their parent race to suicide end everything, like the galactus gun. They were cut off and were basically sneak attacked. That's how the kree initially fell. The Awave would totally dominate the phalanx. It was a much lager event. I mean did you read either of these stories?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
^no they, dont. they were never part of the ANNIHLATION WAVE, in a similar way that the fallen one and kosmos were never a part of the annihlation wave even though they played a big part in annihlation. They are included.

Originally posted by Galan007
Because AM showed control over the Shadow Demons, we know that he is certainly capable of manipulating beings composed of anti-matter energy. His not doing so versus the Qwardians was for the sake of the story - thus, could easily be attributed to PIS/CIS.

And of course it's speculation that AM could manipulate beings from negative zone (they are from differing companies, afterall.) But after Illa's question on the second page, we just started pondering the possibilities, is all.It's speculation to blame it on PIS. Anti-Monitor has a single feat of manipulating anti-matter beings, those which he created. He didn't create Negative Zone beings. He didn't create Qward. And Qwardian beings who have attacked him and who originate from an anti-matter universe were not manipulated in the same way as the Shadow Demons.

It's not just speculation, but weak speculation and it isn't just based on the Negative Zone beings, energies and artifacts being from a different company. Because we have an example of DC anti-matter beings, energies and artifacts not being manipulated.Originally posted by Galan007
But if beings from the NZ are composed of anti-matter energy in some fashion, I see no reason why AM would be incapable of at least absorbing them. *shrug*

Which is a point I have already made (and also why I feel the AW takes this.) Simply put, SC-AM was a sad shell of his former self. They aren't composed of traditional anti-matter. This is already evident from their histories. I see every reason for arguing against a simple absorption because Negative Zone beings, energies and artifacts do not exhibit the traditional traits of anti-matter. And only beings who are completely composed of anti-matter and completely created by Anti-Monitor have been subject to the merest whims of a classic Anti-Monitor. We know of beings, energies and artifacts who should be composed of anti-matter who are not subject to classic Anti-Monitor's merest whims, i.e. Qwardian Thunderers. Why would Negative Zone beings, energies or artifacts be subject to Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor?

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Tenebrous and Aegis soloes how do two people solo?

anyway, does the sc get manhunters?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and which team is warlock on?

I think he meant the technarchy Warlock.

Yes, him, since Phalanx' "father race" was mentioned.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's speculation to blame it on PIS. Anti-Monitor has a single feat of manipulating anti-matter beings, those which he created. He didn't create Negative Zone beings. He didn't create Qward. And Qwardian beings who have attacked him and who originate from an anti-matter universe were not manipulated in the same way as the Shadow Demons. Yet every one/thing in that universe was still absorbed:

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1668953_am1.jpg

Point being; AM doesn't have to create something, in order for him to absorb it (so long as it is tied to anti-matter in some way/shape/form.)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Because we have an example of DC anti-matter beings, energies and artifacts not being manipulated. They were still absorbed (which was my point.)

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Negative Zone beings, energies and artifacts do not exhibit the traditional traits of anti-matter. So... Because NZ characters don't exhibit the 'traditional' traits of anti-matter, we are to assume AM would be totally incapable of absorbing them - despite their connection to anti-matter? That is, as you say, 'weak'. Imo.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
We know of beings, energies and artifacts who should be composed of anti-matter who are not subject to classic Anti-Monitor's merest whims, i.e. Qwardian Thunderers. Untrue. AM wanted to absorb them, so they were absorbed.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yet every one/thing in that universe was still absorbed:

http://s1d2.turboimagehost.com/t/1668953_am1.jpg

Point being; AM doesn't have to create something, in order for him to absorb it (so long as it is tied to anti-matter in some way/shape/form.)

They were still absorbed (which was my point.)

So... Because NZ characters don't exhibit the 'traditional' traits of anti-matter, we are to assume AM would be totally incapable of absorbing them - despite their connection to anti-matter? That is, as you say, 'weak'. Imo.

Untrue. AM wanted to absorb them, so they were absorbed. You're drawing a false distinction of classic Anti-Monitor's feat of absorbing the anti-matter universe. He absorbed positive matter universes as well. His absorption of positive matter universes does not suggest that positive matter beings, energies or artifacts are subject to his merest whims.

Therefore it's erroneous to conclude that his absorption of the anti-matter universe suggests he is able to manipulate anti-matter beings, energies or artifacts. Furthermore, this is Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Therefore it's erroneous to conclude that his absorption of the anti-matter universe suggests he is able to manipulate anti-matter beings, energies or artifacts. My main point wasn't that AM would be 'manipulating' anyone, per se. I just don't see the problem with him absorbing beings composed of anti-matter energy, as he's done before (see the scan I posted.)

^ Classic Anti-Monitor absorbed the anti-matter universe, which is composed of traditional anti-matter. And as I already discussed before, Negative Zone beings do not display the traditional traits of anti-matter. Traditional anti-matter explodes on contact with positive matter. That obviously doesn't happen with Negative Zone beings, energies or artifacts otherwise Annihilus would explode everytime he comes to attack Earth. Assuming they are composed of traditional anti-matter is presumptuous. Theorizing that Sinestro Corps War Anti-Monitor would absorb them relies on that unsupported presumption.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Negative Zone beings do not display the traditional traits of anti-matter. Traditional anti-matter explodes on contact with positive matter. That obviously doesn't happen with Negative Zone beings, energies or artifacts otherwise Annihilus would explode everytime he comes to attack Earth. There was a version of Ultraman who was from the anti-matter universe, yet he didn't explode upon venturing into the positive-matter universes. Nor did Anti-Matter Man himself. See where I'm going? The above characters both stemmed from the anti-matter universe (which AM absorbed,) yet didn't exhibit the 'traditional traits' of anti-matter.

^ If that Ultraman touched Superman, they would have both exploded. So while it's true he didn't explode on contact with atmosphere, he would have exploded upon mere contact with Superman by virtue of his anti-matter composition. However, neither Annihilus, nor Blastaar, nor any person, energy or artifact from the Negative Zone exhibited such a trait. Anti-Matter Man and Blue Adam were both stable anti-matter reactors. Which is why they are both special cases.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ If that Ultraman touched Superman, they would have both exploded. So while it's true he didn't explode on contact with atmosphere, he would have exploded upon mere contact with Superman by virtue of his anti-matter composition. That's not what you said in your previous post.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Anti-Matter Man and Blue Adam were both stable anti-matter reactors. Which is why they are both special cases. Ok. Well then I say Annihilus must also be a stable a-m reactor

Originally posted by Galan007
That's not what you said in your previous post.

Ok. Well then I say Annihilus must also be a stable a-m reactor I'm not sure what you mean with your first statement. That Ultraman did exhibit some traits of traditional anti-matter. So it's arguable that he might be absorbable by Anti-Monitor. He's distinguishable from Negative Zone beings.

He's not. uhuh

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He's distinguishable from Negative Zone beings.

He's not. uhuh My point exactly. biscuits




But like I first said, AW ftw.

Thanos wins.