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Alright Maestro goes and finds Galactus he tells him he wants to be a herald of his, Galactus takes up his offer Galactus gives Maestro the powers he wants. Strength boost aura of green smoke that encopasses Maestro's body and is toxic to everybody who doesn't have a powerful healing factor. The range of the smoke is 500 feet in diamater and takes it toll on even the strongest of healing ability. Maestro in imbuled with the power cosmic and is implanted with expert knowledge of the power and its uses. He creates a hammer type weapon that weight 3 tons and is made of indesrtuctible material. He has been givien the ability to fly in order to find planets for Big G. Does he have what it takes to bring down Marvel Earth?

Maestro w/PC = someone who dies at the hands of Molecule Man

or maybe The Dreaming Celestial.


they're on Marvel Earth, aren't they?

Not this time. He has to have a chance or it would be spite. Imagine Hulk is new black digs with green smoke sort of rising around him and red glowing eyes with a huge hammer type weapon.

well, keeping it sub-sky-father, I think Maestro w/PC would stomp Marvel Earth. literally.

one well placed stomp and Earth crumbles under foot.

Maestro already killed everyone once.

I say he does it again and then turns on Galactus and kills him too.

he wouldnt beat galactus...


Juggernaut, SA mangog, and the destroyer animated by thor or odin. Maestro knew how powerful the destroyer was . thats why he tried to po'd his old self and make him angry knowing that the YOUNG hulk could do nothing to it.


add in the hulk from the past (or younger maestro), and various other heroes for a distraction and they would bring him down quickly IMO.

KillAll, it sure looks like he would.



http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/c8k2p0a0lsyo1bxt8wb_thumb.jpg

there is nothing in that room to suggest HOW he got the stuff in it. nor is there any indication that he did it himself . IF i remember correctly.


also, there is nothing to suggest juggernaut Mangog or the destroyer were defeated in that room PERIOD. i dont think Maestro has the power to take down any one of the three permanently individually. let alone as a team.


MANGOG at his peak was strong enough to defeat even odin and most of asgard... you think maestro with Silver Surfers power could do that? i doubt it lol... so he's outclassed in muscle.


the destroyer has an array of powers that can do a number of things. so he can atleast be matched in power output.

and juggernaut has him beat in durability. easily. the three could easily take him out....

Originally posted by The Scribe
KillAll, it sure looks like he would.



http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/c8k2p0a0lsyo1bxt8wb_thumb.jpg
I thought Rick said that many/most of the heroes died as a result of the radiation that originally turned Hulk into Maestro?

Originally posted by The Scribe
KillAll, it sure looks like he would.



http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/c8k2p0a0lsyo1bxt8wb_thumb.jpg

Is that the Silver Surfer Board up there? (if so DAMN!!!)

Idk if he beat all those guys... not he has the PC I don't see how he can lose.... I mean that a pretty impressive resume (assumeing that alternate universe everyone was just as strong as the 616 version).

Xavier saying something over in the corner?

his track record consists of Silver surfer, and thor, and some other low powered beings that i believe juggernaut mangog or destroyer could have wiped out by himself .


he cannot over take the earth. not to mention ultron and nimrod.... COMMON people. maestro with SS powers is not going to take the earth.


not to mention :

Originally posted by Lord Feron
(assumeing that alternate universe everyone was just as strong as the 616 version).


now that the ol brain is churning. you have Reed richards, and doom. i'm sure they could THINK of something. not to mention apocalypse at his peak. or Black bolt... and his whisper. its just not plausible for maestro to be able to do it.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I thought Rick said that many/most of the heroes died as a result of the radiation that originally turned Hulk into Maestro? I think your right not too mention i think maestro stated that only Thor could have been stroug enough to fight him or something like that.

Originally posted by Lord Feron
Is that the Silver Surfer Board up there? (if so DAMN!!!)

Idk if he beat all those guys... not he has the PC I don't see how he can lose.... I mean that a pretty impressive resume (assumeing that alternate universe everyone was just as strong as the 616 version).

I don't believe he killed half of them.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
I don't believe he killed half of them.


he might have gotten hank pym by himself (is that his helmet i spy?)


lets compile a list of who is hinted to have things in that room. we will start with the basics.

Thor
Silver sufer
Captain america
Iron man
Xavier
magneto
nova
doom
black knight
Spiderman
venom
war machine
Dr strange
ant man
giant man
the wasp
cyclops
shatterstar
captain mar-vel
ultron
wolverine
Dr octopuss?
absorbing man
1 sentinel


who else?

Originally posted by KillAll
he might have gotten hank pym by himself (is that his helmet i spy?)


lets compile a list of who is hinted to have things in that room. we will start with the basics.

Thor
Silver sufer
Captain america
Iron man
Xavier
magneto

who else?

Nova, Doom, Black Knight, Spider-man/Venom in his....black suit (WTF?) War machine, Spidey's red suit, Dr.Strange, Ant-man, Giant Man, The wasp, Cyclops, Shatterstar, Captain Mar-vel, Ulron and Wolverine.

How far into the future is Maestro's time supposed to be?

i added dr octopuss also lol. it looks like his tentacle in the bottom right side, not to mention absorbing mans ball.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Nova, Doom, Black Knight, Spider-man/Venom in his....black suit (WTF?) War machine, Spidey's red suit, Dr.Strange, Ant-man, Giant Man, The wasp, Cyclops, Shatterstar, Captain Mar-vel, Ulron and Wolverine.

Warlock, Chameleon, Daredevil, Doc Ock, Hawkeye, there's a Phoenix poster...., Sunfire, Absorbing Man, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver's clothing I think, Beast, Agent USA, Stilt-man, Quasar and whose helmet is that next to Magneto?

is that visions head above xaviers old chair? is that supposed to be the "red skull" on the shelf lol...

Originally posted by illadelph12
How far into the future is Maestro's time supposed to be? 100 years

Originally posted by KillAll
is that visions head above xaviers old chair? is that supposed to be the "red skull" on the shelf lol...

Yes.

I can also see Jack of Hearts and Human Torch later in the comic.

Originally posted by iceman24567
100 years

Hmm...

Is Maestro supposed to be 616? Because other 616 future stories have Surfer alive in the 30th century and beyond. Maybe Galactus came and resurrected him.

Maestro (Earth-9200)

The Maestro was a version of the Hulk from an alternate future timeline, approximately a hundred years into the future, combining Banner's intelligence with the Hulk's more malevolent aspects.

He has mastery of the power cosmic and knowledge of earth heros & villain who would be a threat. He could destroyer all of the X-men by destroying the Manor Wakanda Fantastic Four etc etc from space. Anybody he does personal combat with would be killed or weakend by the green smoke that admits from his body. Maestro as the Herald has had a strength upgrade to much higher level. He would be the Ultimate Herald of Galactus Cunning Incalculable strength and with the power cosmic energy and matter manipulation. He has the smarts and experience of Banner/Hulk

Originally posted by golem370
He has mastery of the power cosmic and knowledge of earth heros & villain who would be a threat. He could destroyer all of the X-men by destroying the Manor Wakanda Fantastic Four etc etc from space. Anybody he does personal combat with would be killed or weakend by the green smoke that admits from his body. Maestro as the Herald has had a strength upgrade to much higher level. He would be the Ultimate Herald of Galactus Cunning Incalculable strength and with the power cosmic energy and matter manipulation. He has the smarts and experience of Banner/Hulk

facepalm

he still couldnt affect the mystics of Juggernaut or the destroyer.

the destroyer is atleast as strong as he is. probably the juggernaut also (they have both been said to be on panel as having limitless strength).

the smoke wouldnt hurt either one of them. neither one of them tire nor do they need to eat sleep or breathe. he cant affect EITHER ONE OF THEM in the least.

mangog is easily a match in strength no doubt about it. i'm not sure that maestro's "smoke" would hurt him either. he was an ODIN level threat.

NM

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
facepalm


beat me to it

Originally posted by golem370
He has mastery of the power cosmic and knowledge of earth heros & villain who would be a threat. He could destroyer all of the X-men by destroying the Manor Wakanda Fantastic Four etc etc from space. Anybody he does personal combat with would be killed or weakend by the green smoke that admits from his body. Maestro as the Herald has had a strength upgrade to much higher level. He would be the Ultimate Herald of Galactus Cunning Incalculable strength and with the power cosmic energy and matter manipulation. He has the smarts and experience of Banner/Hulk

There are plenty of mutants that could survive inside the manor if it was destroyed. Also his smoke wouldn't affect Cain, Colossus, or Thor.

Depends on the power of the blast.

lol no smoke can affect cain...all someone would have to do is contain it in a vacuum, and those who dont need to breath Colossus, Iceman, Juggernaut can affectively neutralize him

Originally posted by golem370
Depends on the power of the blast.

If this is to the manor being destroyed then no. Iceman will still be there no matter what. Colossus in steel form will still be there.

If this is to the smoke thing then you should know better if you think some smoke is going to hurt Cain.

thread = end, your herald failed.

Maestro knows Juggernaut. He could blast the ground causing Juggs to fall into a massive hole and then throw in thousands of tons of steel melt it and toss it into space. It would be like having unfeeling Silver Surfer attack earth. He could destroy most of the people from orbit. Hulk has stood toe to toe with Juggernaut in the past but know he is a power cosmic weilder to a master level with a upgrade of strength.

Originally posted by golem370
Maestro knows Juggernaut. He could blast the ground causing Juggs to fall into a massive hole and then throw in thousands of tons of steel melt it and toss it into space. It would be like having unfeeling Silver Surfer attack earth. He could destroy most of the people from orbit. Hulk has stood toe to toe with Juggernaut in the past but know he is a power cosmic weilder to a master level with a upgrade of strength.

So cain is supposed to stay still when he is doing all of this? Cain could easily break out.

I am sure with the power cosmic he could do something. What powers have Silver Surfer displayed using the cosmic power?

Originally posted by golem370
I am sure with the power cosmic he could do something. What powers have Silver Surfer displayed using the cosmic power?

So you gave him a power you know little to nothing about?

Telepathy
Concussive Blasts
Matter Manipulation
Energy Manipulation
Healing ability
Superhuman Strength
Durability
Stamina
Super Hearing and Seeing

Originally posted by golem370
Telepathy
Concussive Blasts
Matter Manipulation
Energy Manipulation
Healing ability
Superhuman Strength
Durability
Stamina
Super Hearing and Seeing Loses to Steve

You just looked that up. More than likely copied and pasted too.

I think your wrong as soon as I seen your post I wrote them down. I am not stupid don't treat as if I was.

the only ppl to take on hulk and beat him are herald godlike beings the earth is destroyed regardless but yes they can stop hulk.


thor all out withbelt glove armor and rage along with others should be enough to stop him like:

genis vell
BRB
Sentry
absorbing man

it would be an awesome fight.

Originally posted by golem370
I am sure with the power cosmic he could do something. What powers have Silver Surfer displayed using the cosmic power?

then why would you ask this question if you already knew?

Rhetorical question

Sure it was.

i hate to tell you dude but jugg would find himself stranded and powerless against maestro when the earth is gone or at least when they are air born and flying all over the place.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i hate to tell you dude but jugg would find himself stranded and powerless against maestro when the earth is gone or at least when they are air born and flying all over the place.

He's going to take Cain's powers away now? Destroying the earth doesn't do a thing to Cain. He'll sit on another asteroid for another year until it gets somewhere.

Spider-Man has out-smarted him. Maestro would bait Cain by saying why do you always hide that force field are you a coward and Cain puts down his shields and gets bfr or he just fights Cain from a far until something works like sonics.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
He's going to take Cain's powers away now? Destroying the earth doesn't do a thing to Cain. He'll sit on another asteroid for another year until it gets somewhere.

yeah but he'll be of no use to the earth or the heroes if he cant get to maestro.

unless the fliers can manuever maestro toward jugg, kurse or destroyer they are of no use to the heroes...

you no what if thor and asgard gods took over the destroyer armor they could kill maestro lickity split.

Kurse wouldn't last long against Maestro with strength boost and the power cosmic. Maestro could create a force field himself. Is isn't Maestro vs Marvel Earth and Asgard its him vs Marvel Earth

Originally posted by golem370
Spider-Man has out-smarted him. Maestro would bait Cain by saying why do you always hide that force field are you a coward and Cain puts down his shields and gets bfr or he just fights Cain from a far until something works like sonics.

Cain rarely uses his FF.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
yeah but he'll be of no use to the earth or the heroes if he cant get to maestro.

unless the fliers can manuever maestro toward jugg, kurse or destroyer they are of no use to the heroes...

you no what if thor and asgard gods took over the destroyer armor they could kill maestro lickity split.

Cain is not the key to victory here.

Doom steals his powers, while Titannus drains his gamma energy.

damn i should have anticipated doom...

Look Maestro has experience with most of Marvel heros and villains and he knows who would the biggest threat. He would more then likely take out the toughest guys first. He has the speed of a herald which means he could fly somewhere between lightspeed & Warp Speed. He could attack all of the energy on earth causing a world wide electrical shutdown cause nuclear bombs to be set off.

Originally posted by golem370
Look Maestro has experience with most of Marvel heros and villains and he knows who would the biggest threat. He would more then likely take out the toughest guys first. He has the speed of a herald which means he could fly somewhere between lightspeed & Warp Speed.

None of that stopped Doom from taking Surfer's powers.

Look Surfer has reversed the shrinking of Metropolis in the crossover with the power cosmic its not impossible for Maestro to shrink cities to the size of snow globe.

Originally posted by golem370
Look Surfer has reversed the shrinking of Metropolis in the crossover with the power cosmic its not impossible for Maestro to shrink cities to the size of snow globe.

Doom counters that by placing Jinzo on the field.

He won't be able to do that while his powers are being stolen and his Gamma energy is being drained.

Look Maestro shrinking the city is out of character, and it wouldn't be the first time Doom won being small.

Doom would lose

He is Maestro has full mastery of the power cosmic I think he could do something.

Originally posted by golem370
Doom would lose

Yeah he'd lose patience with Maestro's failure at using the PC so he steals it and shows him how its done.

Look no he wouldn't

you have to realize the battle field would be chaotic no way for maestro to focus on doom when he has more immediate threats..

doom could be in his country preping a spell and tech for his play for grab of power.

Originally posted by golem370
He is Maestro has full mastery of the power cosmic I think he could do something.

Yeah he could fail.

Like I said he knows the people who would be the biggest threat including Doom. Silver Surfer has shown the ability to see and hearing people from up to a light year away. The reason I mention SS is because he is a master of the power cosmic and in this thread Maestro is as well and Maestro is a smart and has no remorse in killing people

Originally posted by golem370
Like I said he knows the people who would be the biggest threat including Doom. Silver Surfer has shown the ability to see and hearing people from up to a light year away. The reason I mention SS is because he is a master of the power cosmic and in this thread Maestro is as well and Maestro is a smart and has no remorse in killing people

Are you telling me he is smarter than Doom?

Doom can own him quietly.

You can't own somebody If you don't know their there.

Originally posted by golem370
You can't own somebody If you don't know their there.

Yes you can.