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Marvel Family
Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)
Black Adam
Mary Marvel
Marvel Jr.

Thor Family
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Thor Girl
Thunderstrike

Setting: Oa
Bloodlust: On

Tell me what you think

the marvels.

Marvel Family

What level is Thorgirl and Thunderstrike?

Stalemate

The Marvel family has one advantage. They can be completely healed if they shout out Shazam 2x times quickly

Marvels.

Depends largely on the versions of the lower level combatants, since I see the top tiers battling it out for some time.

Thor family.

Thor family

Thor family ftw,,,,,,,unlike the Shazam family the thor family powers arent split in half and depending on their power lvls like thor girl and strike the other team would have a hell of a time trying to take them down.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What level is Thorgirl and Thunderstrike?

Whatever level is their best.

I'm assuming that Power Share isn't in effect, so all of the Marvel's and the 1 Adam are full strength.

And while I have no idea about Thorgirl, I know that once Thor was back in action, Thunderstrike's stock dropped, so did his strength and durability.

Marvel family takes it, they've shown greater combat speed, flight speed, etc...

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Whatever level is their best. That's not fair

Tough. If what you said about the Marvel's healing ability is true, then I regret nothing

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Tough. If what you said about the Marvel's healing ability is true, then I regret nothing What if said Thorgirl>Thor. In fact much much higher

The marvels

at their best Thorgirl has skyfather lvl powers reality warping and stuff and thunderstrike at his absolute best was hauling around his bloodaxe for half of his comic series and he ended having it at the end of his career. with his axe he was bringing the beat down on the thunder god and seth.. shaking the ground with his footsteps shattering windows, causing animals to roar and children to wake up from their sleep half a world away.

not only that but all the thunder gods can heal and rejuvenate just as easily as the marvel family by double stamping their mace/hammer handle or fist on the ground.

Isn't Billy at his best the new wizard of the ROE ?

Marvel's.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Isn't Billy at his best the new wizard of the ROE ?

sure at his best. then thor would be rune king thor and now you got two uber reality warping skyfathers/skymother thorgirl and a low end skyfather type guy like bloodstrike.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
sure at his best. then thor would be rune king thor and now you got two uber reality warping skyfathers/skymother thorgirl and a low end skyfather type guy like bloodstrike.

Yeah that would suck .

why wasnt dargo ktor and thorpool not added to the thor family? that is just fT$@$ up...

add thorpool!!! and dargo ktor!!!



yup.

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Marvel Family
Captain Marvel (Billy Batson)
Black Adam
Mary Marvel
Marvel Jr.

Thor Family
Thor
Beta Ray Bill
Thor Girl
Thunderstrike

Setting: Oa
Bloodlust: On

Tell me what you think

The power sharing hobbles the Marvels. If it's on, they're all weaker than they would be individually. If it's off, then they're all at CM's levels which makes this a stomp.

See, this is a situation in which I'm all for all of the Marvels to have their powers functioning at optimum levels, instead of going by what should actually happen...

Thor is the weak link here.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/4/51865-5055-69281-1-thunderstrike_super.jpg

Marvel's take a majority at least.

i agree marvel characters take the majority their power lvls and combined attacks are enough to collapse reality..

Originally posted by Enyalus
See, this is a situation in which I'm all for all of the Marvels to have their powers functioning at optimum levels, instead of going by what should actually happen...

I guess you could use Captain Marvel at full power as when he's the sole user of the POS and Mary and Freddy at their power levels when they're sharing the PoS between them. It's not exactly what would happen, but it makes the fight more balanced than either the Marvel family being screwed from the get go or a Shazam fueled stomp.

i dont mind if ppl want to argue for shazam billy that just means we can argue for our three sky father/mother thunder beings at their highest setting as well..

Regardless, Thor controls lightning. Neutral universe, Thor retains all his powers. Changes the Marvel family all back to mortals so BRB can kill them all.

If power sharing is on, is Cap sharing his powers with Cap Jr. and Mary, or is it just him and Jr, while Adam is sharing with Mary?

Originally posted by Enyalus
Regardless, Thor controls lightning. Neutral universe, Thor retains all his powers. Changes the Marvel family all back to mortals so BRB can kill them all.



I think he could manipulate the SHAZAM lightning when it's summoned, but I don't think he could forcibly depower them with his own lightning.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think he could manipulate the SHAZAM lightning when it's summoned, but I don't think he could forcibly depower them with his own lightning.

thor forcibly depowered the wrecking crew and their amping right out of their body...

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I think he could manipulate the SHAZAM lightning when it's summoned, but I don't think he could forcibly depower them with his own lightning.
I'm just going by what other posters have used in the Takion vs. Thor and Nekron vs. Thanos arguments. *shrug* Thor retains all his powers. Thor manipulates/calls down lightning. Any kind of it. He wins.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thor forcibly depowered the wrecking crew and their amping right out of their body...

Well, considering their enchantments were Asgardian in nature, it would be within his power to do so.

He has no idea what powers the Marvels.

Originally posted by Enyalus
I'm just going by what other posters have used in the Takion vs. Thor and Nekron vs. Thanos arguments. *shrug* Thor retains all his powers. Thor manipulates/calls down lightning. Any kind of it. He wins.

Hm I could agree with this, however, CM has the power of Zeus (the power over his lightning) and Zeus power (a Skyfather) > Thor's control IMO. So no, Thor doesn't wins, stalemate.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
thor forcibly depowered the wrecking crew and their amping right out of their body...

Wrecking Crew =/= Marvel Family

It depends on whether or not you think Thor's power is enough to forcibily overcome the PoS and manipulate the Power of Zeus (the source of the transformation). Personally, I don't think he can depower the Marvel's with his own lightning based powers, but if they do yell out Shazam! I wouldn't put it past him to able to control the bolt or somehow manipulate it.

Originally posted by KingD19
Well, considering their enchantments were Asgardian in nature, it would be within his power to do so.

He has no idea what powers the Marvels. the thunderbolt on their costume might give him an inkling even might sense the magic lightning in them..

Originally posted by DarthDaniel1001
Whatever level is their best.

That just makes it a spite thread then.

Thorgirl at her best would solo this.

Heck, with Captain Marvel power sharing, Beta Ray Bill and Thor would solo this. As I recall, Black Adam beat the crap out of the entire Marvel family on his own while they were power sharing in 52.

To much versatility for Thor family to lose!

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That just makes it a spite thread then.

Thorgirl at her best would solo this.

Heck, with Captain Marvel power sharing, Beta Ray Bill and Thor would solo this. As I recall, Black Adam beat the crap out of the entire Marvel family on his own while they were power sharing in 52. if i recall black adam beat the snot out of billy in the rock of eternity after being made the keeper..

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
if i recall black adam beat the snot out of billy in the rock of eternity after being made the keeper..

Yea that too.

It kind of pisses all over the idea that the Power of Shazam is Skyfather level.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea that too.

It kind of pisses all over the idea that the Power of Shazam is Skyfather level.
He has no idea on how to use it. And if you look at it, you can see Billy wasn't really trying

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
if i recall black adam beat the snot out of billy in the rock of eternity after being made the keeper..

He was hit by the rock first IIRC. And Isis had her hands in this instance too. We can't say for sure how they did it but it wasn't just a beating.

funny it look to me like BA was beating the snot out of him iirc... besides lets use everyone at their best showing for sh$#s and giggles... it should be interesting.

If we use everyone at their best it's a spite match, obviously. Lord Marvel, Black Mary Marvel, Shazam-Freddy, and WWIII Black Adam vs, Rune King Thor and the Designate alone would be a mismatch, let alone the others.

Thunderstrike solo's with his duo wpns... and his blood lust...