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Which teams takes it. Full potential fight. Bfr is on


1team versatility
thor
GL hal
sliver surfer

vs

1team brute force
classic superman
hulk
captain marvel classic

round2


team2 versatility
sentry
3nd age spawn
captain atom

vs

team2 brute force
PC mongul
juggernaut
flash Wally west

Raw Power can overcome Versatility at times..

Round 1 goes to Brute Force

Round 2 goes to Versatility.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Raw Power can overcome Versatility at times..

Round 1 goes to Brute Force

Round 2 goes to Versatility. it dose in comics all the time do to bad writing and popularity. Its no way round 1 Bruce force wins stop.

If team versatility doesn't BFR, they lose the first match.

Originally posted by -Pr-
If team versatility doesn't BFR, they lose the first match. bfr is on so that's mute

So you made it purely as a bait thread, then?

Also, the word is "moot".

1team versatility
thor
GL hal
sliver surfer

vs

1team brute force
classic superman
hulk
captain marvel classic

winners: ... dunno, but Thor and Hal die, as does Superman

team2 versatility
sentry
3nd age spawn
captain atom

vs

team2 brute force
PC mongul
juggernaut
flash Wally west

Winners: Versatility (Sentry et al).

Thor beats cm and hulk and supes in 1v1
Ss beats them in 1v1
GL Hal I put over hulk and cm and him vs supes is debatable I can see Hal beating supes

Originally posted by -Pr-
So you made it purely as a bait thread, then?

Also, the word is "moot". bait how cuz I didn't make it a slugfest lol your funny.

Originally posted by -Pr-


Also, the word is "moot".

Originally posted by mighty adam
bait how cuz I didn't make it a slugfest lol your funny.

no, because it's obvious that you made it with the intention of making the brute force team lose.

you must really hate hulk.

Originally posted by janus77
1team versatility
thor
GL hal
sliver surfer

vs

1team brute force
classic superman
hulk
captain marvel classic

winners: ... dunno, but Thor and Hal die, as does Superman

team2 versatility
sentry
3nd age spawn
captain atom

vs

team2 brute force
PC mongul
juggernaut
flash Wally west

Winners: Versatility (Sentry et al). 3age spawn is more powerful then sentry or even void, so is cap atom. Child please. How do Thor die? I can see Hal but Thor I say nay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
no, because it's obvious that you made it with the intention of making the brute force team lose.

you must really hate hulk. stop trolling. This ain't about the hulk. See all them threads about him has made you a troll like his fan base. any thread I Mk will be full potential with bfr on. I don't care what characters I put in the thread. That is how I prefer my threads.

Might want to take back that accusation.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Might want to take back that accusation. no. You accused me of making the thread un fair because it isn't some STUPID SLUGFEST. Then you accused me of hating the hulk. like if I put him in a thread, I have to make the match up tailored to suit his one trick pony powerset. Now YOU tell me what is that....

Originally posted by -Pr-
Might want to take back that accusation. Prb please! Please! Just ban this guy! I beg of you! He is by far worst than Quanchi!

Hulk snaps Thor's neck.

Originally posted by mighty adam
no. You accused me of making the thread un fair because it isn't some STUPID SLUGFEST. Then you accused me of hating the hulk. like if I put him in a thread, I have to make the match up tailored to suit his one trick pony powerset. Now YOU tell me what is that....

First of all, that isn't why I made the accusation. You assumed it was.

You've shown your hate for the character in more than one thread, so it was a logical deduction.

You make a thread that's designed to favour one team over another. A slugfest is the same thing, in case you hadn't noticed. Then you use patronising smilies to haphazardly defend your position.

If this is a bait thread, it's because you made it seem that way; not because everyone else is imagining it.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Prb please! Please! Just ban this guy! I beg of you! He is by far worst than Quanchi!

Dude, don't backseat mod.

Originally posted by -Pr-




Dude, don't backseat mod. Wait....asking *a mod* to ban a person is backseat modding? Lol that's a new one!

Originally posted by -Pr-
First of all, that isn't why I made the accusation. You assumed it was.

You've shown your hate for the character in more than one thread, so it was a logical deduction.

You make a thread that's designed to favour one team over another. A slugfest is the same thing, in case you hadn't noticed. Then you use patronising smilies to haphazardly defend your position.

If this is a bait thread, it's because you made it seem that way; not because everyone else is imagining it.



Dude, don't backseat mod. well then I was wrong. And no I don't hate the character. I use to think hulk was op, and unbeatable back in 05. then due to people like batdude, junith I think that was his name and alot of the OG debaters I learnt read more comics look threw feats and saw I was wrong. I just don't like his fan base they are even dumber then he is. Fanboys will be fanboys.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk snaps Thor's neck. Thor has snapped hulks neck so.....

Originally posted by mighty adam
Thor has snapped hulks neck so.....
Hulk can heal from such attacks, instantly.

Thor just dies.

Lulz @this thread.

Originally posted by janus77
Hulk can heal from such attacks, instantly.

Thor just dies. hulk didn't tho and kingthor has killed hulk.

Originally posted by mighty adam
hulk didn't tho and kingthor has killed hulk.
Alternate universe. And yes, Hulk does heal instantaneously. It took a serum made with his own dna to slow down his healing for the WWH arc neck break to last longer than a couple of panels.

Some bricks have super speed, that means they can attack faster than some bfr defences.

I think the teams are not balanced, having said that versatility should win more often than not.

But particularly in this case. I wonder if I were to fight someone stronger than me and somehow I bfr him, because that is my only option to win, does that makes me stronger than my oponent?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Some bricks have super speed, that means they can attack faster than some bfr defences.

I think the teams are not balanced, having said that versatility should win more often than not.

But particularly in this case. I wonder if I were to fight someone stronger than me and somehow I bfr him, because that is my only option to win, does that makes me stronger than my oponent? it makes you smart or generally more versatile. GL doesn't overpowered people but his very powerful.

round 1:
versatility team wins both with or without BFR.

round 2:
no on cares

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Some bricks have super speed, that means they can attack faster than some bfr defences.

I think the teams are not balanced, having said that versatility should win more often than not.

But particularly in this case. I wonder if I were to fight someone stronger than me and somehow I bfr him, because that is my only option to win, does that makes me stronger than my oponent? also with bricks their so one sided they have a hard time keeping up with top tier versatile characters. Some can over come this but generally a top versatile character beats a top brick

Originally posted by mighty adam
it makes you smart or generally more versatile. GL doesn't overpowered people but his very powerful.

Some might see it like being smarter, some might see it like cowardice, depends on the eye of the beholder. Having said that abd judging by the history of what I have read from other of your post. Im guessing you are aiming to show how characters like thor usually slug out the hulk. And while i agree with it, thor's warrior's pride will demand a physical fight vs the hulk.
Ss and gl would not go that route, though.

Maybe if you were to use tanks with super speed it will be moe balanced.

Originally posted by TheHulk
Wait....asking *a mod* to ban a person is backseat modding? Lol that's a new one!

talking about banning at all, is backseat modding.

Originally posted by mighty adam
well then I was wrong. And no I don't hate the character. I use to think hulk was op, and unbeatable back in 05. then due to people like batdude, junith I think that was his name and alot of the OG debaters I learnt read more comics look threw feats and saw I was wrong. I just don't like his fan base they are even dumber then he is. Fanboys will be fanboys.

don't bash.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Some might see it like being smarter, some might see it like cowardice, depends on the eye of the beholder. Having said that abd judging by the history of what I have read from other of your post. Im guessing you are aiming to show how characters like thor usually slug out the hulk. And while i agree with it, thor's warrior's pride will demand a physical fight vs the hulk.
Ss and gl would not go that route, though.

Maybe if you were to use tanks with super speed it will be moe balanced. its a full potential fight so no, Thor wouldn't be doing stupid things like fist fighting here. Thor should never fist fight supes, CM, or any high tier brick.

Full potential doesn't remove personality.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Full potential doesn't remove personality. well then no pis cos or bs.

Originally posted by mighty adam
its a full potential fight so no, Thor wouldn't be doing stupid things like fist fighting here. Thor should never fist fight supes, CM, or any high tier brick.

That is not how his character is, he usually goes fist first and CM and SM have the superspeed advantage to avoid portals or counter them.

Originally posted by mighty adam
well then no pis cos or bs.

Then there is T vo, lobotomy, singing out of existency and a lot of things.

Im sure Surfer can make black holes in peoples brains and flash can hit 10 trillion times before any one can think, superman probably 6 times less than that while flying.

I think im getting silly in here.

Threads don't allow forum avatars. That's what battlezones and tournaments are for.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
That is not how his character is, he usually goes fist first and CM and SM have the superspeed advantage to avoid portals or counter them. yes I know that. Glads job mm jobs Thor fights stupid etc but that won't take place.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Threads don't allow forum avatars. That's what battlezones and tournaments are for.

I agree.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Then there is T vo, lobotomy, singing out of existency and a lot of things.

Im sure Surfer can make black holes in peoples brains and flash can hit 10 trillion times before any one can think, superman probably 6 times less than that while flying.

I think im getting silly in here. t vo yes lobotomy yes super waving no that's PC. Surfer can do some strange things so yes I can see that.

Originally posted by mighty adam
yes I know that. Glads job mm jobs Thor fights stupid etc but that won't take place.

Look i think due to his versatility thor should defeat hulk any version, but he is warrior born and raised, his honor (wich is sacred for him) demand to best someone like the Hulk in a physical fight. And he will use his versatility advantage until he is against the ropes by then is prbably too late because the hulk is a beast.


Now surfer's character is different.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Threads don't allow forum avatars. That's what battlezones and tournaments are for. last time I checked you could Mk a thread how ever you pleased. No pis cis or bs writing. If we all made match ups where the combatants fought with in character. Any fight vs supes everybody but batman would lose. If you people wanna be apart of that dumb shit be my guess you can make a thread and have at. As it stands its not happening here.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Look i think due to his versatility thor should defeat hulk any version, but he is warrior born and raised, his honor (wich is sacred for him) demand to best someone like the Hulk in a physical fight. And he will use his versatility advantage until he is against the ropes by then is prbably too late because the hulk is a beast.


Now surfer's character is different. marvel makes Thor out to job to hulk because hulk is a bigger money maker. Thor has used his versatility vs glads and alot of opponents. Its the same how everybody in dc jobs to bats its business not warrior pride.

Cis off CM and SM move faster than tought and snatch hal's ring while proceding to beat the snot out of SS and Thor at super speed.

By the time the fight is done Hulk's brain registers that Superman is wearing a GL ring and CM has a new Mallet while SS is just a scrap of metal.

Imo.

Originally posted by mighty adam
marvel makes Thor out to job to hulk because hulk is a bigger money maker. Thor has used his versatility vs glads and alot of opponents. Its the same how everybody in dc jobs to bats its business not warrior pride.

Disagree, silver surfer usually does not job to the hulk and hulk is a bigger money maker than silver surfer.

I understand your point of view, but imo there is a different approach to it.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Cis off CM and SM move faster than tought and snatch hal's ring while proceding to beat the snot out of SS and Thor at super speed.

By the time the fight is done Hulk's brain registers that Superman is wearing a GL ring and CM has a new Mallet while SS is just a scrap of metal.

Imo. Thor has handled speed blitz well. glads tried it and ran into powerful winds. Ss has speed greater then sm and cm. GL hmm that's a good one but he has shown able to handle speedblitz too

Originally posted by mighty adam
last time I checked you could Mk a thread how ever you pleased. No pis cis or bs writing. If we all made match ups where the combatants fought with in character. Any fight vs supes everybody but batman would lose. If you people wanna be apart of that dumb shit be my guess you can make a thread and have at. As it stands its not happening here.

You haven't checked the rules, then.

The rules are pretty clear, so no, there won't be any other threads. This one has to follow the rules just like every other one, because this isn't a powerset vs powerset match. If you want one of those, there are plenty of other forums.

Originally posted by -Pr-
You haven't checked the rules, then.

The rules are pretty clear, so no, there won't be any other threads. This one has to follow the rules just like every other one, because this isn't a powerset vs powerset match. If you want one of those, there are plenty of other forums. yea there is. how about you tell me a good one. Oh and I'm going hold you to that so any thread that has a character that jobs alot or is portrayed poorly should lose a majority on these forums if anybody disagree I'll just say pr said them are the rules......

Fights have to be within character right.....

Originally posted by mighty adam
marvel makes Thor out to job to hulk because hulk is a bigger money maker. Thor has used his versatility vs glads and alot of opponents. Its the same how everybody in dc jobs to bats its business not warrior pride.

Lol

I just looked threw the rules and I didn't see any indication saying a character must fight with in personality on here I seen a minor reference to Ss but that's it so no pr Thor says nay to the stupid fist fight first mentality.

mighty adam, stop arguing with the mods. This is their pitch and their area; what they say goes. If you feel the need to dispute what they tell you, then send them a private message to discuss it. If you keep arguing their calls in the threads, you will be banned.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
mighty adam, stop arguing with the mods. This is their pitch and their area; what they say goes. If you feel the need to dispute what they tell you, then send them a private message to discuss it. If you keep arguing their calls in the threads, you will be banned. -_-

Originally posted by Ushgarak
mighty adam, stop arguing with the mods. This is their pitch and their area; what they say goes. If you feel the need to dispute what they tell you, then send them a private message to discuss it. If you keep arguing their calls in the threads, you will be banned. so even one if the leading mods have to intervene...@MightAdam see what kind shit you sprouted now?

Originally posted by TheHulk
so even one if the leading mods have to intervene...@MightAdam see what kind shit you sprouted now? I don't see any intervention so stfu and move around

Any ways back to the match up nobody don't think PC mongul and Wally can hang with c atom and sentry?

Originally posted by mighty adam
Thor has handled speed blitz well. glads tried it and ran into powerful winds. Ss has speed greater then sm and cm. GL hmm that's a good one but he has shown able to handle speedblitz too

Lol... NO! -_-

I will say that glads speed was jobbing to thor. Because accordingly to certain comics Thor will have a hard time dealing with speed even if he is time dilated vs guys who can move at certain speeds. Like superman cm level speeds.

But to use avatar fight the way is being portrayed here.
Sm sings everybody out of existence
SS creates a black hole in the adversaries
And no one wins.

Wally lends speed force to his team and procede to imp everyone.

This can be done in a micosecond.

Try to stop a speed force amped juggernaut.

This is getting silly, btw

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Lol... NO! -_-

I will say that glads speed was jobbing to thor. Because accordingly to certain comics Thor will have a hard time dealing with speed even if he is time dilated vs guys who can move at certain speeds. Like superman cm level speeds.

But to use avatar fight the way is being portrayed here.
Sm sings everybody out of existence
SS creates a black hole in the adversaries
And no one wins. Thor has superhuman reaction times and he has dealt with speed well. And he has used his versatility on almost everybody but that one ***** he used his hammer to strip juggs, godblasts, etc. No PC supes and I don't think Ss has ever blackholed anybody.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Wally lends speed force to his team and procede to imp everyone.

This can be done in a micosecond.

Try to stop a speed force amped juggernaut.

This is getting silly, btw Wally has lent speed before so it WITHIN CHARACTER

I just read through this whole thread. And it was definitely a waste of time

The pointless arguing yes. If you don't wanna debate the match up don't add to the stupidity.

I'll add to the stupidity if that's what I desire sneer

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65h6dICgB1rruq52.gif

Originally posted by armedforbattle
I'll add to the stupidity if that's what I desire sneer

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m65h6dICgB1rruq52.gif lol

Sentry no pis or CIS can and should beat PC mogul and jugg but it would have to be by means outside of physicality PC mongul slapped up PC supes

Originally posted by mighty adam
Sentry no pis or CIS can and should beat PC mogul and jugg but it would have to be by means outside of physicality PC mongul slapped up PC supes You're a silly girl.

Also, a snide giggle at Sentry not using physicality

Originally posted by Digi
Rules for the matches themselves:PIS = Plot Induced Stupidity

At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.

No Spite Threads
Now, a spite thread is usually considered as a thread opened to intentionally be one-sided (because the poster may not like that character, or opened to goad another person into responding, etc.). Moderators will decide if or if not a thread was made out of spite. Spite threads are NOT tolerated and will be closed, and the poster warned (or more severe consequences will be taken if that poster's been warned multiple times).

Originally posted by Digi
Debating Format

Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter, the same goes with Thanos without the IG, and so on). However, in the cases where the original poster did not set down any constraints or conditions for the fight, then the match would default to the standard rules below.

The Battle
Due to some confusion, I will highlight this now. Unless otherwise specified in the opening post, the matches are one fight. The use of a character winning 7/10 is just to highlight a percentage or odds. There has never been anything in the rules which states there are 10 separate fights.

Prep time
Neither side receives any notable prep time before the starting bell unless the thread starter specifies it. Neither side may take any offensive or defensive actions before the starting bell. Planning is allowed and powers that are automatic or 'always on' can be up, but actions such as setting up forcefields, taking flight, or consciously activating powers is not. For example, Batman cannot shove together an 'anti-Avengers ray' before the fight.

Prep Addendum
Prep time of 10 minutes = 10 minutes relative to the character. So time manipulations wouldn't count for more time. Say Strange went back in time 2 years before the battle is scheduled to start. His 10 minutes would still be running, so he can't just arbitrarily give himself infinite prep time.

In other words, make prep relative to the character, not to their manipulations of time.


Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them. For example, Daredevil would have his billy-club, but Reed Richards would not have the Ultimate Nullifier.
In a scenario fight, the contestants in whose city/reality the fight takes place are allowed access to any material resources they usually have there or of any team they're active members of, as long as they can reasonably get to them. For example, in a scenario set in the DCU, Green Lantern would have access to equipment in the JLA Watchtower, but not the Titans headquarters.
Beta Ray Bill would not have Scuttlebutt and Batman would not have the Batmobile, unless otherwise noted in the open post.

Basic Knowledge
Each side receives basic knowledge of the other. A good measure of this would be what the general population of the character's homeworld knows. For example, that Superman has a weakness to Kryptonite is general knowledge, but that he's Clark Kent is not.


Full Capacity
It is assumed that each contestant will fight to his/her best ability, but still within the character's personality, unless specified otherwise. That means they will use any powers at their disposal. For example, even though The Flash doesn't clock each of his own opponents in the first millisecond in his own comic, it is assumed that is a viable tactic on this board since it is a proven fact that he possesses that level of speed.
It is also assumed that the characters fight at their optimum levels of ability - not explicitly weakened or unusually powered up for those who have variable power levels.

No outside help
Unless specified otherwise, no contestant may call for outside assistance, even in scenario matches. For example, Captain America cannot call in the Avengers during a fight with Batman.

Leaving the field
Combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match. If they are removed from the arena against their will (being punched, thrown, teleported, etc.) and can make it back under their own power in a reasonable amount of time, then they are still in the fight. Obviously, if a combatant leaves the field and cannot return under their own power, then they have lost.

No Bias Claims
"Batman can beat Thor because he's cooler!" That's an example of how not to debate. We would like to see the rationale behind any claims that one character can beat the other rather than a claim based on popularity and subjective bias.
Also, we insist that all claims be backed up by evidence from canon sources. If you claim that Spiderman is stronger than Superman, then you have to prove it.

No Non-canon Sources
Non-canon sources are invalid for evidence. With rare exceptions, comics not in continuity such as Elseworlds, What Ifs, or alternate universes are not used for evidence in debates of a particular mainstream character.

A canon source is one that is regarded as being 'in continuity'. In the example of Star Trek; instances from the series and movies can be used, but books are definitely out. Comic book crossovers are usually unusable as they ignore common sense most of the time (DC vs. Marvel is certainly unusable in some cases in our debates!).

This includes JLA/Avengers. Canon or not, people just aren't going to agree on it in most cases. Besides, there should be plenty of other comics with which to make your point.

Comics released strictly online or on web sites will not be considered proof in the Comic Book Versus Forum.

An obscure interview given by someone involved in a story arc is not proof to refute feats. Neither is a random post by a supposed writer on a message board, blogs, tweets, etc. There have been too many of these so called interviews which go against what's shown on panel. Especially when there is no dialogue to refute what's happening on panel. Most writers are clear with the intentions of the plot and story arc.

This principle extends to characters with multiple versions, alternate timelines, etc. Unless specified by the thread starter, only current-version canon feats are allowed.

No Mentioning Events of PIS
Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates.

Amendment:

Concerning the Battlefield
Unless otherwise stated by the thread originator, the standard distance between combatants will be .5 kilometers in line of sight at the onset of battle, and there will be an implied "buzz" to signify the onset of battle. It will be assumed combatants are primed to go at the gun.

Also, all characters, regardless of where the fight takes place, or what universe/medium they are native to, will have full access to their abilities at optimum efficiency as they are depicted in their native universes. It will be assumed that each character fights as they are normally presented regardless of battle locale. This means that, for example, Flash will in fact have SpeedForce abilities if the battle took place in Marvel Manhattan. Battles will always take place on an assumed equal playing field.


Concerning Threads
There have been too many thread starters trying to change stipulations once the thread has advanced. This isn't allowed.

There are two things which can happen:
1) If the thread hasn't gone too far, past the first 2-3 pages, then PM a mod to edit the opening post to make the desired changes.

2) The original thread can be closed and a new thread made.

This is to avoid confusion and arguing in a thread. People will read the opening post more than they'll search through a 10 page thread to see where stipulations were changed.

Also, if you make a thread which needs edited due to spelling, grammar, etc then PM a mod for the correction.

Thank you and enjoy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Clarification of CIS

Ok people, here are the finalised rules as regards PIS, CIS, and everything related to it.

PIS is, as always, off unless the thread starter says it's ON.

CIS, as was said before, is now a more diverse term, but is not as vague as before.

While CIS still exists in the form of characters like Rhino (who are just too stupid to know better), it also exists in one other form.

This is known as Character Inhibited Power. This applies to characters that have intelligence, like the Silver Surfer, Superman, and so on and so forth.

As Bada said:

"It's a self imposed limitation in certain circumstances which there is concern for civilians and buildings for the most part. It's not stupidity, it's a limitation set until the threat exceeds a certain threshold."

What this means is that people like the Surfer and Superman and so on will not use the full extent of their powers if it will endanger civilians. It doesn't, though, mean they will fight like idiots. The character's personality is an integral part of the match and dictates how they will perform. This is the crux of the rules we've come up with. It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them.

In accordance with this, several factors come in to play in debates:

The Opponent, Basic Information, the Arena and the Character's Personality and Experience

Those four are key.

Example:

If Martian Manhunter fights say, Juggernaut.

MM doesn't personally know Juggernaut (Opponent). So he has Basic Information. This is categorised as being what the general public would know about the Juggernaut. It goes by averages. If that average man or woman on the street knows that Juggernaut is super strong, then MM knows. The average man or woman doesn't know, however, that the Juggernaut is weak against psionics. J'onn would approach with caution, not knowing whether Juggernaut was in his weight class, and not knowing the full extent of the man's powers.

However. If Martian Manhunter went up against Amazo, he would know to go for broke right at the start, because he KNOWS Amazo (Personality and Experience). He will use his speed, his strength, his shapeshifting. This is because if he knows what it takes to bring down Amazo, or he believes his standard attacks won't work. If J'onn was fighting Juggernaut, there would come a point when he would realise that normal attacks won't work, and would up his game. Any character that doesn't suffer from Rhino-esque stupidity is capable of this. Even with this, though, the Arena comes in to play. If civilians are in danger, J'onn won't shapeshift in to a fire breathing dragon. Juggernaut on the other hand doesn't care, so wouldn't hesitate to toss cars and trucks full of civilians at the Martian.

Examples:

Thor knows he can't out-brawl Hulk, so uses exotic powers sooner than he would against the likes of Superman, as Superman is an unknown to him.

Superman would go all out against Doomsday or Despero because he knows how powerful they are. Against the Hulk, he's going to take a few punches before realising he'll have to use something rather than slugging it out. He won't bathe the street in heat vision either, because there are civilians nearby.

It ALL comes down to the CHARACTER, not the POWERSET. Black Adam you obviously didn't read the rules, at all. The next time you step out of line it will result in a warning, at least.

Edit: I've read the through this thread and the reports. Adam, you get a warning for not listening to a mod, disregarding the rules, trolling and baiting after 2 mods posted.

Originally posted by Badabing
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'Backseat Moderating'

What does Backseat Moderating mean?
Let me tell you. When you post "this thread needs to be closed", "close please", "wrong forum", "this person should be banned", "so and so is a sock", etc. This is in fact considered SPAM. Another thing on this same train of thought: It's one thing to say "wrong forum" or "close please" but another to say that after someone else has already said it. That's even worse. Don't post if you think the thread is idiotic, just inform a moderator. We're here to do a job, not you.


The following is what to do in certain situations in our humble forums.

Threads in the wrong forum:
If you really must tell another member that their thread is in the wrong forum then please answer their question or have a valid reply before informing them of their mistake.

If one or more members Reports the thread about it being in the wrong forum, we will take care of it. After you Report, go ahead and carry on with the thread On-Topic, act like there is nothing wrong. A moderator will be by soon enough to move the thread to the appropriate forum.

Posting useless comments such as "move please" "this thread needs moving" "why the hell did you post this here?!? does this look like the *Insert Forum Name Here* forum?" only tend to de-rail the topic and cause arguments before the thread is even in the right forum. Thus it will more than likely be closed.

Duplicate threads:
Kindly inform the member there is already a thread on the subject, and re-direct them if you please. Help them out by pointing out the search button and posting the link to the older thread.

There is no need to be rude to new members who haven't had the time or experience to learn the forum layout yet. We were all in their shoes when we first joined KMC. Acting like a jerk to new members will make them want to leave and/or act like a jerk right back at you.

If someone posts a comment in a "Duplicate" thread saying there is already a topic then there is no need for everyone else to say the same exact thing.

Once again, if there is a duplicate thread: Report it, or send a PM to the forum moderator. We will deal with it by either merging or closing the said duplicate.

Disclaimer
From this point on all 'backseat moderators' caught in the act of doing said actions will get a PM from me. There will be no warnings for this, unless I have to tell you multiple times to cut it out, but I will have some choice words for you.

Here on out I want to see more Reported posts/threads, and less of you guys acting like you own the place. Be kind, inviting, present yourself in a positive way to new forum members. We all want our stay at KMC to be fun and informative. Treat everyone with respect. It's not hard to do.

Credit goes to a former mod. The Hulk, Pr said you were backseat modding, and he was correct. You're another poster pushing their luck with mods. It would be best for you to not let your posting come to our attention.