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Thanos vs. Ultraman

Ultraman has just inhaled a 1kg powdered kryptonite

Not Ultraman

Spite.

Ultraman blitzes thanos

Originally posted by Board Walker
Ultraman blitzes thanos Sad thing is Hulk's displayed more combat speed than Ultraman and he got batted away when he tried to blitz

Super speed and super strength are always a deadly combination in a forum fight regardless of the denial.

I think "denial" is a bad choice of words when he's fighting Thanos

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Not Ultraman I agree with this fanboy.

Thanos

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I think "denial" is a bad choice of words when he's fighting Thanos

IMO Thanos tends to look good because He is not in DC.

If this I was on a forum fight where plot is not needed and I was fighting vs a 13 year old weaker than me, than can move at least 5 times faster than me, I'm sure He will wreck me over time, regardless of how much more developed I could be, In my honest opinion.

no^

^So this is a comic book fight?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
IMO Thanos tends to look good because He is not in DC.

If this I was on a forum fight where plot is not needed and I was fighting vs a 13 year old weaker than me, than can move at least 5 times faster than me, I'm sure He will wreck me over time, regardless of how much more developed I could be, In my honest opinion. I agree, rule out feats because of a company

OK...

What if you could take take his full blows to really no effect, could react to him, could fire blasts with the potential of one shotting him from your hands and eyes, and you could summon shields almost as durable as yourself? That's just the basics too.

Fact is, "denial" isn't the word I'd use for Thanos while defending a character with no speed feats and barely any feats in general.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I agree, rule out feats because of a company

OK...

What if you could take take his full blows to really no effect, could react to him, could fire blasts with the potential of one shotting him from your hands and eyes, and you could summon shields almost as durable as yourself? That's just the basics too.

Fact is, "denial" isn't the word I'd use for Thanos while defending a character with no speed feats and barely any feats in general. this^

Speed is irrelevant due to Thanos having some of the most powerful defense in comics.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I agree, rule out feats because of a company

OK...

Like I said IMO, because I tend to read both and just for the record I don't think Superman or Ultraman should defeat the likes of Darkseid in comics other than a full out physical fight, which basically is nerfing the likes of Darkseid.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
What if you could take take his full blows to really no effect, could react to him, could fire blasts with the potential of one shotting him from your hands and eyes, and you could summon shields almost as durable as yourself? That's just the basics too.

Fact is, "denial" isn't the word I'd use for Thanos while defending a character with no speed feats and barely any feats in general.

If that were the case then We have fight, because the 13 year old kid has other powers too and while I know he might not have speed feats it is well accepted that Ultraman is way faster than Thanos.

It comes down to a BOMBER fighting a fighting jet, the Bomber has more power, no one denies that, the jet fighter just moves too fast.

Even if you were for extreme examples a Tank vs a helicopter, yes the tank is more durable but the helicopter is just fast and eventually it will become the tank killer, if the Tank for some reason hits the helicopter is one shot game over, but most likely the Helicopter will win.

Strength and speed are a deadly combo.

But that is my line of reasoning, not really in the mod for arguing today, so We agree to disagree

So flash confirmed for most powerful character in comics!

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Like I said IMO, because I tend to read both and just for the record I don't think Superman or Ultraman should defeat the likes of Darkseid in comics other than a full out physical fight, which basically is nerfing the likes of Darkseid.



If that were the case then We have fight, because the 13 year old kid has other powers too and while I know he might not have speed feats it is well accepted that Ultraman is way faster than Thanos.

It comes down to a BOMBER fighting a fighting jet, the Bomber has more power, no one denies that, the jet fighter just moves too fast.

Even if you were for extreme examples a Tank vs a helicopter, yes the tank is more durable but the helicopter is just fast and eventually it will become the tank killer, if the Tank for some reason hits the helicopter is one shot game over, but most likely the Helicopter will win.

Strength and speed are a deadly combo.

But that is my line of reasoning, not really in the mod for arguing today, so We agree to disagree Good. Irrelevant since company bias should have no indication in the forum fights. Thanos does good because he's powerful. Assuming what he'd do in another company doesn't take away feats.
That'd be like me saying he'd be twice as powerful in Image

So basically you think Ultraman defeats Thanos because a helicopter could beat up a tank?

Honestly when you put it like that I can see why people defending Thanos could be seen as in denial

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Good. Irrelevant since company bias should have no indication in the forum fights. Thanos does good because he's powerful. Assuming what he'd do in another company doesn't take away feats.
That'd be like me saying he'd be twice as powerful in Image

So basically you think Ultraman defeats Thanos because a helicopter could beat up a tank?

Honestly when you put it like that I can see why people defending Thanos could be seen as in denial

Even if you use other weaker characters than Thanos, the denial is always there.

and If I think that Ultraman or Superman defeats Thanos is not because of a "helicopter beats a tank", is just because the speed difference is just too much and in a forum fight it will wear him down.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
So flash confirmed for most powerful character in comics!

on forum fights he is

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Even if you use other weaker characters than Thanos, the denial is always there.

and If I think that Ultraman or Superman defeats Thanos is not because of a "helicopter beats a tank", is just because the speed difference is just too much and in a forum fight it will wear him down. Yeah, those Thanos fans are just the worst. How dare they defend him against herald and trans level beings?
Also the denial is on every side. It's not exclusive to what you're implying is entirely Marvel.

So basically you think Ultraman beats Thanos via making up feats?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Yeah, those Thanos fans are just the worst. How dare they defend him against herald and trans level beings?
Also the denial is on every side. It's not exclusive to what you're implying is entirely Marvel.

So basically you think Ultraman beats Thanos via making up feats?

Ok, so Thanos wins if Ultraman does not has super speed and super speed reflexes

And yes denial is in both sides, I agree to that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I agree, rule out feats because of a company

OK...

What if you could take take his full blows to really no effect, could react to him, could fire blasts with the potential of one shotting him from your hands and eyes, and you could summon shields almost as durable as yourself? That's just the basics too.

Fact is, "denial" isn't the word I'd use for Thanos while defending a character with no speed feats and barely any feats in general. This is true. Ulty is a high herald, *maybe* low-trans, depending how highly you think of Black Adam... But who cares? Thanos eats high heralds for breakfast and shits out low-transers after his morning coffee.

I love Ulty, but he is simply outclassed across the board. Frankly, the rest of his feats in Forever Evil would have to be asininely uber for him to even compare to Thanos-- but right now this isn't even a challenge.

Thanos 10/10.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is true. Ulty is a high herald, *maybe* low-trans, depending how highly you think of Black Adam... But who cares? Thanos eats high heralds for breakfast and shits out low-transers after his morning coffee.

I love Ulty, but he is simply outclassed across the board. Frankly, the rest of his feats in Forever Evil would have to be asininely uber for him to even compare to Thanos-- but right now this isn't even a challenge.

Thanos 10/10.

This is coming from a Ultraman fan.

Thanos stomps this 10/10. Ultraman needs his team and even then, he isn't beating Thanos.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Ok, so Thanos wins if Ultraman does not has super speed and super speed reflexes

And yes denial is in both sides, I agree to that. I not once even alluded to that.

What I'm saying is Ultraman has no combat feats to make Thanos look like a statue. And considering Thanos reacted to "warp speed" Fallen One while giggling, I doubt if Ultaman ever gets those feats, but I digress.
Hell, even his last appearance had him bat "super speed Hulk", and effortlessly bat a Thor out of the air who was in the process of attempting to cheap shot Thanos.

You're dealing with one part of the equation while ignoring the other. From what we've seen, Thanos CAN react to Ultraman. That doesn't mean we get to make up a speed level and act like Thanos can't possibly react to it due to a simple lack of feats on Ultraman's part.

And also helicopters and tanks.

Yeah, Hulk was moving fast enough to very nearly overwhelm Proxy--she even commented on how fast he was in the very same comic, iirc--yet Thanos swatted him away mid-blitz, with very little effort.

This is the same Hulk who is also strong enough to sock time, mind you... But Thanos treated him as though he was a minor inconvenience.

Originally posted by Galan007
This is true. Ulty is a high herald, *maybe* low-trans, depending how highly you think of Black Adam... But who cares? Thanos eats high heralds for breakfast and shits out low-transers after his morning coffee.

I love Ulty, but he is simply outclassed across the board. Frankly, the rest of his feats in Forever Evil would have to be asininely uber for him to even compare to Thanos-- but right now this isn't even a challenge.

Thanos 10/10. Pretty much. Ultraman is pretty astounding so far. Definite high herald level.

But that is simply not enough. You don't have to be an in denial Thanos fanboy to see that, even though I clearly am.

Put Ultraman against other beings on his level, not people who get unloaded on by Odin

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I agree, rule out feats because of a company http://nkayesel.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/sheldon-cooper-laughing.gif

Lol.

Funny how both tanked magical lightning. One from Black Adam and the other from Thor.

Originally posted by Golgo13
Funny how both tanked magical lightning. One from Black Adam and the other from Thor.
Differences being :
a) UM was hit once, Thanos twice
b) UM bled afterwards, Thanos didn't
c) Thor's lightening attacks have a proven history, DCNu BA's don't.

Thanos wins 10/10.

Originally posted by zopzop
Differences being :
a) UM was hit once, Thanos twice
b) UM bled afterwards, Thanos didn't
c) Thor's lightening attacks have a proven history, DCNu BA's don't.

Thanos wins 10/10.

http://i1245.photobucket.com/albums/gg587/golgi7777/RC_zps83d2c405.gif

Originally posted by zopzop
Differences being :
a) UM was hit once, Thanos twice
b) UM bled afterwards, Thanos didn't
c) Thor's lightening attacks have a proven history, DCNu BA's don't.

Thanos wins 10/10. And he kept firing off lightning glow the entire time Thanos was grabbing his peni... hammer.

And he had magic glow hammer on when he whacked him too

Where's the Thor vs Ultraman thread?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Where's the Thor vs Ultraman thread?


Don't worry theLordofbrooklyn or Carver will be on it any second now.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
And he kept firing off lightning glow the entire time Thanos was grabbing his peni... hammer.

And he had magic glow hammer on when he whacked him too

Where's the Thor vs Ultraman thread?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t331587.html

Thanos. Obviously.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
I not once even alluded to that.

What I'm saying is Ultraman has no combat feats to make Thanos look like a statue. And considering Thanos reacted to "warp speed" Fallen One while giggling, I doubt if Ultaman ever gets those feats, but I digress.
Hell, even his last appearance had him bat "super speed Hulk", and effortlessly bat a Thor out of the air who was in the process of attempting to cheap shot Thanos.

You're dealing with one part of the equation while ignoring the other. From what we've seen, Thanos CAN react to Ultraman. That doesn't mean we get to make up a speed level and act like Thanos can't possibly react to it due to a simple lack of feats on Ultraman's part.

And also helicopters and tanks.

While I can see your line of reasoning. I don't think Thanos has faced right out speedsters with super strength, I mean yes hulk has some degree of Super speed and yes his reflexes are above normal, but nothing compared to the reflexes someone like Ultraman should have. Galactus Heralds while fast in raw speed they lack the speed reflexes and by that I mean moving their hands at super speed or doing complex task at super speed and often they are not displayed like that.

Let use for example someone who has moved at with super speed around Thanos and it has basically danced around him. That is what I am seeing in a fight like this.

Lets be honest, characters that can move at super speed get tagged in comics, not because the other characters have super speed reflexes too, but because the story requires them to be tagged by a slower opponent, other wise there is no point to the fight.

And the same thing I think about Ultraman I stated my feeling towards Hyperion, that his speed was being nerfed down vs Thanos or his henchman.

Hyperion had the power to blitz any of those characters in the comic, why does he forgets he has that power? Why is not displayed?

If Hyperion had out right blitzed Thanos and Thanos had showed the reflexes to catch up and counter his blitz, then yes, I will agree Thanos will beat the crap out of Ultraman, but somehow someway characters with super speed and super strength often forget they have this type of power and that they can use them in combination with their other powers, don't you agree?

I hope people realize that people at trans+ , sky father , abstract are above showing speed.

Do we assume they all get blitz as well?

So.....Ultraman can win if we discount Thanos' battles due to his Marvel origins, ignore Thanos' speed feats and pretend that Ultraman has blitzing feats necessary to beat someone like Thanos because......because....Superman

Yes, that sounds about right. Ultraman wins because Superman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
So.....Ultraman can win if we discount Thanos' battles due to his Marvel origins, ignore Thanos' speed feats and pretend that Ultraman has blitzing feats necessary to beat someone like Thanos because......because....Superman

Yes, that sounds about right. Ultraman wins because Superman.

I don't think Thanos is Sky father he is Trans and therefore still beatable by physical means.

If He was Sky father, then yes I agree He wins. 10/10

But he is not.

Nice sig Quan.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus


Nice sig Quan. Let the Darkseid see it and despair.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't think Thanos is Sky father he is Trans and therefore still beatable by physical means.

If He was Sky father, then yes I agree He wins. 10/10

But he is not. Okay but why do Sky father get the luxury of not having to show speed?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
I don't think Thanos is Sky father he is Trans and therefore still beatable by physical means.

If He was Sky father, then yes I agree He wins. 10/10

But he is not.

How close do you think he is to sky father?

Originally posted by kgkg
Okay but why do Sky father get the luxury of not having to show speed? The logic makes no sense at its core. Rage called it correctly.

Originally posted by kgkg
Okay but why do Sky father get the luxury of not having to show speed?


Because sky fathers and above at those power levels defy any law of comic book logic and are not bounded to anything physical IMO.

But that also depends on how other people might rank a sky father level being.

Originally posted by Golgo13
How close do you think he is to sky father?

Hard to say with all his showings but probably around mid to high.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Because sky fathers and above at those power levels defy any law of comic book logic and are not bounded to anything physical IMO.

But that also depends on how other people might rank a sky father level being. You know that Skyfathers and Abstracts have been affected by physical force in comics right?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Hard to say with all his showings but probably around mid to high.

So, around Superbaby level?

Originally posted by kgkg
You know that Skyfathers and Abstracts have been affected by physical force in comics right?

Yes, but that is because the plot requires it, this is where the PIS rule of the forums should be applied.

Odin could disentegrate Thanos with a mere thought, but He does not.

Molecule men could freeze any molecule around him in the middle of a battle yet, he forgets he can and gets pierced by the Wolverine.

It is all done, so We can have a story.

Originally posted by Golgo13
So, around Superbaby level?

BELIEVE IN SKY FATHER SUPER BABY!!!

oh and I meant mid to high Trans

Originally posted by kgkg
You know that Skyfathers and Abstracts have been affected by physical force in comics right? Bias allows people to ignore the comics and use pis. That's why it is and always will be a weak excuse for people to ignore the comics because they're upset about what happened.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
BELIEVE IN SKY FATHER SUPER BABY!!!

oh and I meant mid to high Trans

Agreed.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Yes, but that is because the plot requires it, this is where the PIS rule of the forums should be applied.

Odin could disentegrate Thanos with a mere thought, but He does not.

Molecule men could freeze any molecule around him in the middle of a battle yet, he forgets he can and gets pierced by the Wolverine.

It is all done, so We can have a story.
So wait....Thanos doesn't get blitz and lose because it's PIS for faster characters not to blitz them.

but if it happens to skyfather+ it's PIS the other way?

So we pick and choose who we want to win? I hope you realize that I can call PIS on almost anything using this type of logic.

Originally posted by kgkg


So we pick and choose who we want to win? Hit nail on the head.

Originally posted by kgkg
So wait....Thanos doesn't get blitz and lose because it's PIS for faster characters not to blitz them.

but if it happens to skyfather+ it's PIS the other way?

So we pick and choose who we want to win? I hope you realize that I can call PIS on almost anything using this type of logic.

The way I see it, is that you cannot blitz a skyfather because he will know before hand what is coming.

Even if by some reason a sky father gets blitzed and he gets punched many times in a second, he can just with a mere thought reverse the outcome of the blitz, but that is maybe because I have in high regard skyfather + beings.

Both beat the crap out of Black Adam.

Spite.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
While I can see your line of reasoning. I don't think Thanos has faced right out speedsters with super strength, I mean yes hulk has some degree of Super speed and yes his reflexes are above normal, but nothing compared to the reflexes someone like Ultraman should have. Galactus Heralds while fast in raw speed they lack the speed reflexes and by that I mean moving their hands at super speed or doing complex task at super speed and often they are not displayed like that.

Let use for example someone who has moved at with super speed around Thanos and it has basically danced around him. That is what I am seeing in a fight like this.

Lets be honest, characters that can move at super speed get tagged in comics, not because the other characters have super speed reflexes too, but because the story requires them to be tagged by a slower opponent, other wise there is no point to the fight.

And the same thing I think about Ultraman I stated my feeling towards Hyperion, that his speed was being nerfed down vs Thanos or his henchman.

Hyperion had the power to blitz any of those characters in the comic, why does he forgets he has that power? Why is not displayed?

If Hyperion had out right blitzed Thanos and Thanos had showed the reflexes to catch up and counter his blitz, then yes, I will agree Thanos will beat the crap out of Ultraman, but somehow someway characters with super speed and super strength often forget they have this type of power and that they can use them in combination with their other powers, don't you agree?

So basically you'd rather just downplay Thanos' speed feats, use some random speed Ultraman has never shown, compare the people who have used speed against Thanos to... Ultraman and what sort of speed he should have, and other random shit that's also utterly retarded?

Yes, Hyperion is the deciding factor to show Thanos can deal with speed. Nothing else matters. And because he didn't blitz Thanos, Ultraman blitzes Thanos?

But yes, ignore Thanos' reactions. Ignore his shields. He can't hit Ultraman anymore.
Now you're left with a guy who's only been KO'ed 3 times in comics who's stayed awake from attacks from a Cosmic Cube, Galactus, A being twice Galactus' power, Tyrant, Magus with the IG, Odin, and others.

So combining this all into a scenario that is COMPLETELY LIKELY we have something like this:

Ultraman immediately blitzes Thanos. Naturally he starts flailing his arms around while missing omniblasts, not using shields, and just winging punches. Thanos is like "Oh dawgy, I've reacted to people who made stars streak in the blitz, people going lightspeed in seconds, someone who's blitzed the guy going lightspeed in seconds, and a raging Hulk... But all that is for naught because this guy is also super strong, and even though those others were super strong, they weren't quite as strong. I can fire four different blasts at the same time and even omni blasts, but he's so quick and strong! Hell I can even tp blast people, but I'll never land something like that! This guy really knows how to hit me!

Wait, didn't my first appearance to Earth heroes have me fire a blast capable of destroying a planet? Well that would never hit someone with this super speed and super strength repertoire. And I'm knocked out."

How could I have been in so much denial?


I forgot to mention it seems we compare Runner with the ****ing Space Gem to Ultraman. Because he danced around Thanos.
Thanos' speed feats don't count because speedsters get tagged. He's also in Marvel so that's why we shouldn't use his feats too. What's next, he wears armor so any time he gets hit in the face it's pis that he survived? What does him being purple allow us to ignore while we're at it?

Ignore real feats from Thanos. Make up feats for Ultraman.

You stupid Marvel and even worse Thanos fans sure know to deny your way through life. Denial isn't just a magical space mountain in Japan

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Ignore real feats from Thanos. Make up feats for Ultraman.

You stupid Marvel and even worse Thanos fans sure know to deny your way through life. Denial isn't just a magical space mountain in Japan



I told you I based my reasoning on why I see characters with super speed nerfed out, you might not like it and that's fine.

But I think you and I can agree that characters with super speed often forget that power and MAYBE if Hyperion hadn't forgot that he had that power, Thanos and Co. might have not looked that hot in that fight.

Characters with super speed reflexes of microsecond vs nanosecond reaction times have an advantage of at least 15 minutes relatively to attack and defend. That is how big the speed difference is.

And yes Ultraman does not has those feats, I don't think I ever claimed he already has them, but is commonly accepted that Ultraman will be faster than Thanos, while Thanos packs more punch.

Like I said, is my opinion and I respect you point of view and I will say that using the word "delusional" was a poor choice of words on my side, I can see why you might think Thanos wins and is a very respectable point of view, I just think Speed and strength are a very powerful combo.

Double click

I'm not sure you realize just how much physical damage Thanos would tank before his shields went up, or he blasted Ultraman, or just stomped the life out of him. He would likely tank all of it.

Thanos has been reborn for the up coming IG film. The core comic followers will be on a somewhat similar page as the audience in their view of Thanos as the revamped arch villain in marvel. The upgrades were inevitable once he was turned into the convergent villain in the MU- hopefully they don't job him in the future. Thanos (10/10) has a definite implied speed boost and while he is not as fast as UM he most likely will perceive his attacks take blows without damage until he catches Ultraman or slows him down with projectiles(aoe)enough to get blows in then after a few panels it will be over.

Thanos.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
IMO Thanos tends to look good because He is not in DC. this has to be the dumbest thing ever said, I mean wow. Just unabashed bias...

Ultrajunkie tries to blitz and gets smacked down like Hulk, then his neck is broken. Thanus ftw.

Originally posted by pym-ftw
this has to be the dumbest thing ever said, I mean wow. Just unabashed bias... I agree. This is DC. Fanboys are their worst .

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
IMO Thanos tends to look good because He is not in DC.

Thanos wrecks him.

Superman fans are the worst, honestly every character has fanboys me included but to look at the lengths they go to trying play up their fave guy and down play others I pathetic

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Sad thing is Hulk's displayed more combat speed than Ultraman and he got batted away when he tried to blitz

Hulk was landing from his jump. Thanos saw him coming a mile away. That wasn't a blitz at all, or it was a very slow one.

It is implied that Ultraman has superspeed that rivals Superman since he is supposed to have the same powers as Superman. No feats are needed.

So implications are all that's needed?

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
IMO Thanos tends to look good because He is not in DC.

If this I was on a forum fight where plot is not needed and I was fighting vs a 13 year old weaker than me, than can move at least 5 times faster than me, I'm sure He will wreck me over time, regardless of how much more developed I could be, In my honest opinion.

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Quite possibly the most asinine statement/argument that I've ever seen on this forum

Originally posted by dmills
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Quite possibly the most asinine statement/argument that I've ever seen on this forum

Nah! Unless you haven't read yours

Originally posted by pym-ftw
this has to be the dumbest thing ever said, I mean wow. Just unabashed bias...

Please dude, IIRC you tend or used to give the wins to marvel characters.

Let me put it this way, is not that Darseid is physically matched to superman because darkseid is herald weak, is that serious superman can ramp it up to darkseid physical levels.

Imo Ultraman gets in few good hits then Thanos asks "Is that all or do you have something else?"
Then knocks Ultraman the f out...

Imo Ultraman should end up better than Black Bolt and Thanos in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt. Black bolt does not has super speed Ulty does

And thus feasible that Thanos ends in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt.

He might win, but believe me, he is not going to look as hot as he did vs BB

It just keeps getting worse

Right totally forgot that Ultraman is now leagues above Thor who couldnt even scratch Thanos...

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
So basically you'd rather just downplay Thanos' speed feats, use some random speed Ultraman has never shown, compare the people who have used speed against Thanos to... Ultraman and what sort of speed he should have, and other random shit that's also utterly retarded?

Yes, Hyperion is the deciding factor to show Thanos can deal with speed. Nothing else matters. And because he didn't blitz Thanos, Ultraman blitzes Thanos?

But yes, ignore Thanos' reactions. Ignore his shields. He can't hit Ultraman anymore.
Now you're left with a guy who's only been KO'ed 3 times in comics who's stayed awake from attacks from a Cosmic Cube, Galactus, A being twice Galactus' power, Tyrant, Magus with the IG, Odin, and others.

So combining this all into a scenario that is COMPLETELY LIKELY we have something like this:

Ultraman immediately blitzes Thanos. Naturally he starts flailing his arms around while missing omniblasts, not using shields, and just winging punches. Thanos is like "Oh dawgy, I've reacted to people who made stars streak in the blitz, people going lightspeed in seconds, someone who's blitzed the guy going lightspeed in seconds, and a raging Hulk... But all that is for naught because this guy is also super strong, and even though those others were super strong, they weren't quite as strong. I can fire four different blasts at the same time and even omni blasts, but he's so quick and strong! Hell I can even tp blast people, but I'll never land something like that! This guy really knows how to hit me!

Wait, didn't my first appearance to Earth heroes have me fire a blast capable of destroying a planet? Well that would never hit someone with this super speed and super strength repertoire. And I'm knocked out."

How could I have been in so much denial?


I forgot to mention it seems we compare Runner with the ****ing Space Gem to Ultraman. Because he danced around Thanos.
Thanos' speed feats don't count because speedsters get tagged. He's also in Marvel so that's why we shouldn't use his feats too. What's next, he wears armor so any time he gets hit in the face it's pis that he survived? What does him being purple allow us to ignore while we're at it?

Thanos have superhuman speed and reactions (faster than a human) but that doesn't mean anything in itself. There are many levels of superhuman speed and reactions. Orbital speed would make a bullet appear to be a snail. Light speed would make a bullet appear to be a statue. Bullet speed would make a human appear to be a statue. So Thanos superspeed and reflexes is significantly lower than Superman's and thus Ultraman's speed and reflexes.

Originally posted by Estacado
Right totally forgot that Ultraman is now leagues above Thor who couldnt even scratch Thanos... Well Thor did affect Thanos. Also if you are taking that scene over an entire history then the same can be done of Superman/Ultraman.

What are Ultraman's best speed feats?

Originally posted by Branlor Swift


It just keeps getting worse

Set these fools straight. Don't get lazy on me now.

Originally posted by h1a8
Well Thor did affect Thanos. Also if you are taking that scene over an entire history then the same can be done of Superman/Ultraman. explain how he effected Thanos as In doing anything that matters? Thanos caught and stopped the next hammer shot then punched Thor into the dirt

Please don't quote h1. He's the last person anyone should listen to in a thread like this.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What are Ultraman's best speed feats?

He doesn't have any that I know of.
But he has the speed in the vicinity of Superman's by implication.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Please don't quote h1. He's the last person anyone should listen to in a thread like this. I know your right Bran but for once I'd like to see him answer something with out any bullshit I've already asked him and Batman Prime to prove what I've said wrong about PG Thor

Originally posted by h1a8
He doesn't have any that I know of.
But he has the speed in the vicinity of Superman's by implication.

I didn't ask how fast you think he's supposed to be, I was asking how fast he can be proven to be.

Thanks for the answer.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk was landing from his jump. Thanos saw him coming a mile away. That wasn't a blitz at all, or it was a very slow one.

It is implied that Ultraman has superspeed that rivals Superman since he is supposed to have the same powers as Superman. No feats are needed. Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Imo Ultraman should end up better than Black Bolt and Thanos in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt. Black bolt does not has super speed Ulty does

And thus feasible that Thanos ends in worse shape than when he faced Black Bolt.

He might win, but believe me, he is not going to look as hot as he did vs BB
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos have superhuman speed and reactions (faster than a human) but that doesn't mean anything in itself. There are many levels of superhuman speed and reactions. Orbital speed would make a bullet appear to be a snail. Light speed would make a bullet appear to be a statue. Bullet speed would make a human appear to be a statue. So Thanos superspeed and reflexes is significantly lower than Superman's and thus Ultraman's speed and reflexes.



And that sums up how ridiculous this thread has been.

Someone should save these posts for the next Superman thread. Just to see how fast they backtrack.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nah! Unless you haven't read yours

So, if I haven't read mine that means that your's are still the most asinine? I'll take that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Please don't quote h1. He's the last person anyone should listen to in a thread like this.

Jesus, this thread is going to make people hate Ultraman.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus, this thread is going to make people hate Ultraman.

Naah, Ultraman is a beast. Someone just made a weird thread.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Don't worry theLordofbrooklyn or Carver will be on it any second now.

Careful boy!

Bran Bran... YOu mention 3 times Thanos has been KO'd in comics.. I can recall the Maker incident at the moment but can't recall which others you're referring 2.. Maybe when thor hit him with the IG? PIS but maybe you're referring to that?

Squirrel Girl, bruh.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Bran Bran... YOu mention 3 times Thanos has been KO'd in comics.. I can recall the Maker incident at the moment but can't recall which others you're referring 2.. Maybe when thor hit him with the IG? PIS but maybe you're referring to that?
When Starlord Cosmic Cubed his crotch.

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus, this thread is going to make people hate Ultraman.
Nahh.

His DCnU bad@$$ery will not be diminished by foolishness. Can't wait till the next time he snorts more of the green stuff then on to crushing Clark's or Billy's face.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Bran Bran... YOu mention 3 times Thanos has been KO'd in comics.. I can recall the Maker incident at the moment but can't recall which others you're referring 2.. Maybe when thor hit him with the IG? PIS but maybe you're referring to that? When Mar-Vell broke the Cube (which reinforces it backfires miserably when someone tampers with it), Maker, and when he apparently had enough power to conquer the universe against Squirrel Girl

Though the Cube could have just been some sort of other thing going on entirely. Either way, he was sleep

The only person who outright koed Thanos at his natural level was Maker. Thanos was universal level against Squirrel Girl so there's that.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
When Mar-Vell broke the Cube (which reinforces it backfires miserably when someone tampers with it), Maker, and when he apparently had enough power to conquer the universe multiverse against Squirrel Girl

It was multiverse? Ha, it's been a while since I seen it.

That's a low feat for Thanos though. SG beating a multiversal Thanos.

Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't ask how fast you think he's supposed to be, I was asking how fast he can be proven to be.

Thanks for the answer.

I don't know how fast he can be proven to be (as far as maximum speed) but he definitely should have Superman's average super speed.

Trying to quantify something numerically when there is an OBVIOUS significant difference is asinine. Clearly, Ultraman is significantly faster than Thanos by virtue of being comparable to Superman in powers, doesn't matter if we can quantify his top speed. That's just my take on it anyway.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know how fast he can be proven to be (as far as maximum speed) but he definitely should have Superman's average super speed.

Trying to quantify something numerically when there is an OBVIOUS significant difference is asinine. Clearly, Ultraman is significantly faster than Thanos by virtue of being comparable to Superman in powers, doesn't matter if we can quantify his top speed. That's just my take on it anyway.

Again, I don't care how fast you think he should be, this is a debate board, here it only matters how fast he can be proven to be.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, I don't care how fast you think he should be, this is a debate board, here it only matters how fast he can be proven to be.

He can be proven to be AT LEAST as fast as Superman's average super speed.

Originally posted by h1a8
He can be proven to be AT LEAST as fast as Superman's average super speed.

Ok, post the feats that prove this.

Originally posted by h1a8
He can be proven to be AT LEAST as fast as Superman's average super speed.

What SM said.

With scans, or at least issue references.

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't know how fast he can be proven to be (as far as maximum speed) but he definitely should have Superman's average super speed.

Trying to quantify something numerically when there is an OBVIOUS significant difference is asinine. Clearly, Ultraman is significantly faster than Thanos by virtue of being comparable to Superman in powers, doesn't matter if we can quantify his top speed. That's just my take on it anyway.

And then we enter a Superman thread where he faces Thor/Thanos or whatever and only concrete feats supported by mathematical numbers matter in determining strength levels.

Originally posted by cdtm
What SM said.

With scans, or at least issue references. Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
And then we enter a Superman thread where he faces Thor/Thanos or whatever and only concrete feats supported by mathematical numbers matter in determining strength levels. Ultraman was created to have the EXACT powers of Superman, only his power source is different (and his not holding back character).

Thus by implication he has at least the average super speed of Superman.

This is totally different than arguing characters from different companies. Concrete feats with numbers are needed.

And yet, this Ultraman casually overpowered Black Adam, another character historically equal to Superman.

Originally posted by cdtm
And yet, this Ultraman casually overpowered Black Adam, another character created to be the equal to Superman. That's why I said "At least comparable to Supes average". He could be much faster or stronger than Superman himself. I'm not claiming a maximum but certainly a minimum.

Originally posted by cdtm
And yet, this Ultraman casually overpowered Black Adam, another character historically equal to Superman.

Speed is what is in question here and it is reasonable to presume that Ultrman's speed is equivalent to that of Superman.

The boost he gets from the K is harder to quantify in terms of strength.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ultraman was created to have the EXACT powers of Superman, only his power source is different (and his not holding back character).

Thus by implication he has at least the average super speed of Superman.

This is totally different than arguing characters from different companies. Concrete feats with numbers are needed.

Post the feats that prove Ultraman has that level of combat superspeed.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Speed is what is in question here and it is reasonable to presume that Ultrman's speed is equivalent to that of Superman.

The boost he gets from the K is harder to quantify in terms of strength.

Reasonable assumption or not, for board debate it still needs something concrete.

The same as cousin Supergirl, Power Girl, or Captain Marvel..

Originally posted by cdtm
Reasonable assumption or not, for board debate it still needs something concrete.

The same as cousin Supergirl, Power Girl, or Captain Marvel..
All of them have at least the average super speed as Superman.
Now if you talking about high end showings then we definitely need something concrete.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post the feats that prove Ultraman has that level of combat superspeed. Second time, he doesn't have any speed feats that I know of. So you tell me. But I do know that he, by implication and intention, has at least the average super speed of Superman himself since he has the exact powers of Superman. It can be argued that he is faster since he appears more powerful. These characters don't exist so we must go on intentions and implications.

Originally posted by h1a8
All of them have at least the average super speed as Superman.
Now if you talking about high end showings then we definitely need something concrete.

Second time, he doesn't have any speed feats that I know of. So you tell me. But I do know that he, by implication and intention, has at least the average super speed of Superman himself since he has the exact powers of Superman. It can be argued that he is faster since he appears more powerful. These characters don't exist so we must go on intentions and implications.

3rd time, I don't care what you think his speed should be, if you want to bring speed into the debate, you have to provide feats.

Originally posted by cdtm
And yet, this Ultraman casually overpowered Black Adam, another character historically equal to Superman.
Adam was never equal to Superman post crisis.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Adam was never equal to Superman post crisis.

GA Black Adam>>>>>>Superman.

Who gave you permission to rock that Beta Ray Bill sig flopflop? Certainly not me. I demand you remove it!

Thanos has never been physically overwhelmed in a punch up against a single opponent.

Since I believe Thanos>Superman, it goes the same for the unbalanced narcissist that is Ultraman.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Who gave you permission to rock that Beta Ray Bill sig flopflop? Certainly not me. I demand you remove it!
Silence! Lest you get a mouthful of Stormbreaker!
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/9/97/Lightning-animated-night-sky.gif

I would like to be on Record that I'm a Thanos Fanboy
I luv that guy!!

Oh and also a Fanboy of Mr.Gorilla Grodd..

Ok

Zopzop funny that its mentioned I meant to ask you earlier. I love your brb Sig and wanted your permission to use it after you were done with it and changed your Sig.

Originally posted by zopzop

Nah, pre crisis they were explicitly equal to each other but it was a partially depowered superman.
Originally posted by Golgo13
GA Black Adam>>>>>>Superman.
Nope. SA superman shits on any adam. Adam only made a single appearance in GA.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Adam was never equal to Superman post crisis.

Just post-crisis? I always knew that deep down you were a Superman hater.
























biscuits

Originally posted by Bentley
Just post-crisis? I always knew that deep down you were a Superman hater.
























biscuits
He was equal to a depowered superman pre crisis.



























You caught me though.

Originally posted by Silent Master
3rd time, I don't care what you think his speed should be, if you want to bring speed into the debate, you have to provide feats.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145301/3428606-00.1.png
Most alternate versions of Superman in the DC Omniverse have most of his powers, since Ultraman is justa an antithesis and shows all other powers of Superman it's legit to say he also has speed.

Here he also flys to the moon and blocks the sun. This also requires speed.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/3291873-3.png

The only thing unknown is, if he is faster as Supes.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
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Most alternate versions of Superman in the DC Omniverse have most of his powers, since Ultraman is justa an antithesis and shows all other powers of Superman it's legit to say he also has speed.

Here he also flys to the moon and blocks the sun. This also requires speed.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/40/3291873-3.png

The only thing unknown is, if he is faster as Supes.

Flight speed and reaction speed aren't the same thing.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
Zopzop funny that its mentioned I meant to ask you earlier. I love your brb Sig and wanted your permission to use it after you were done with it and changed your Sig.
Permission? Use whatever you want dude. I'm already done with it

I don't get the logic behind making this match, its spite as far as we've seen.

Sure, Ultraman punked Black Adam as if he was a child, but BA has always been around Terrax level anyways.

Now I'm suppose to believe Ultraman will blitz thanos... JESUS

Originally posted by Bentley
Sure, Ultraman punked Black Adam as if he was a child, but BA has always been around Terrax level anyways.
WTF?! Take that back! Terrax>BA. BA wishes he was Terrax level.

This match is nearly as lopsided as Ultraman trying to take on Hardcore Station's Synnar. Ultraman gets trashed here. Thanos has repeatedly been able to deal with speed in the form of blitz attacks. Ultranam would have to deal with Magic laced with TP assaults, and cosmic plasma punches from a High class 100, with the durability to tank anything he throws at him.

Thanos wins.

Thanos stomps 10/10. I think Pr closed the wrong thread. He should have closed this instead of the WWH vs Thanos thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Thanos stomps 10/10. I think Pr closed the wrong thread. He should have closed this instead of the WWH vs Thanos thread.

He closed the Superman vs Thanos and WWH vs Thanos SLUGFEST threads because they were spite. Everyone know that WWH and Superman would beat Thanos 10/10 in a slugfest. So it was ok .

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
He closed the Superman vs Thanos and WWH vs Thanos SLUGFEST threads because they were spite. Everyone know that WWH and Superman would beat Thanos 10/10 in a slugfest. So it was ok .


AAAAHHHH, that makes sense now.

I think Carver bribed PR to close those threads.

RAGE.BUILDING.

He actually closed them because they weren't fair to WWH and Superman... fair call by PR

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He actually closed them because they weren't fair to WWH and Superman... fair call by PR

The truth shall be revealed!

You're being watched, PR!

I was going to say this yesterday but -Pr- your slipping! I knew the Thanos vs Superman and Thanos vs WBH threads would be closed due to spite but you took to long to do it. I have been waiting for you to close this thread as well. Step your game up!

Very true.. unfair to Supes and WWH

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
I was going to say this yesterday but -Pr- your slipping! I knew the Thanos vs Superman and Thanos vs WBH threads would be closed due to spite but you took to long to do it. I have been waiting for you to close this thread as well. Step your game up!

SHUT YOUR FOOL MOUTH!

That Thanos vs WBH thread was an all time classic.

Rivalries. Stalkers. Psychology majors.

Keep quiet!

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
SHUT YOUR FOOL MOUTH!

That Thanos vs WBH thread was an all time classic.

Rivalries. Stalkers. Psychology majors.

Keep quiet!

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Very true.. unfair to Supes and WWH

Nope.

Oops typo I meant wwh.

Originally posted by carver9
Nope.

Let those Fanboys be bro, they just can't accept that Thanos is sligthly below their physical level, by feats and common sense.

Originally posted by dial J for Josh
I was going to say this yesterday but -Pr- your slipping! I knew the Thanos vs Superman and Thanos vs WBH threads would be closed due to spite but you took to long to do it. I have been waiting for you to close this thread as well. Step your game up! How is it spite when both are stronger than Thanos? Both have greater feats than Thanos period. WWH was holding back and basically one shotted Hercules. Thanos can't one shot Hercules at all.