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rock and roll. No Exploiting weaknesses. Just pummel and using other tricks. No Teleporting people away or none of that stuff.

Team 2 win. Without exploiting weakness, Superman>SS, or Thor>SS

same goes with Hal

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Team 2 win. Without exploiting weakness, Superman>SS, or Thor>SS

same goes with Hal

2x

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Team 2 win. Without exploiting weakness, Superman>SS, or Thor >SS

False.Surfer > superman regardless

Team 2.

people are underestimating hal here

Originally posted by psycho gundam
people are underestimating hal here Very much So.

Originally posted by Naija boy
False.Surfer > superman regardless



sorry. i actually lol'd, funnily enough.


anyways, team 2, but by the slimmest of margins...

Originally posted by -Pr-


sorry. i actually lol'd, funnily enough.


anyways, team 2, but by the slimmest of margins...

heh.I dont see why

And oh team 1 ftw.

Team 1 > Team 2

Power & Versatility + Power & Versatility > Power & Versatility + Power

Team 1.
Thor seems to came back to his classic lvl, while Surfer recently stomped BRB.
Which makes him the biggest gun.

Originally posted by Mindship
Team 1 > Team 2

Power & Versatility + Power & Versatility > Power & Versatility + Power

So Iron Man beats World War Hulk because, even though they're both powerful, Iron Man is more versatile?

...

Power Level has to be comparable, otherwise Power Alone can trump power + versatility.

Originally posted by Mindship
Power Level has to be comparable, otherwise Power Alone can trump power + versatility.

Versatility is versatility, nothing more.

What matters most is combat effectiveness.

Originally posted by batdude123
Versatility is versatility, nothing more.

What matters most is combat effectiveness. So who's not effective in combat here?

Basically, I'm saying that Surfer, Hal, Thor and Supes are roughly equal in power (and combat effectiveness). But Superman's comparative lack of versatility is a disadvantage here.

Originally posted by Mindship
So who's not effective in combat here?

Basically, I'm saying that Surfer, Hal, Thor and Supes are roughly equal in power (and combat effectiveness). But Superman's comparative lack of versatility is a disadvantage here.

And I'm saying Superman's "lack of versatility" is never really an issue because he's consistently portrayed as the most combat effective hero out there.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 1.
Thor seems to came back to his classic lvl, while Surfer recently stomped BRB.
Which makes him the biggest gun.

hey , are there any scans of this floating about do you can direct me to? Any Herald stomping BRB is a big feat.

Originally posted by batdude123
Versatility is versatility, nothing more.

What matters most is combat effectiveness.

All the characters here will have similar levels of combat effectiveness as they all will be utilizing their abilities to the fullest. Then given similar levels of combat effectiveness and "power", versatility will certainly make a difference.

Originally posted by Naija boy
All the characters here will have similar levels of combat effectiveness as they all will be utilizing their abilities to the fullest. Then given similar levels of combat effectiveness and "power", versatility will certainly make a difference.

Team 2.

Originally posted by Naija boy
All the characters here will have similar levels of combat effectiveness as they all will be utilizing their abilities to the fullest. Then given similar levels of combat effectiveness and "power", versatility will certainly make a difference.

Character "X" having 10 different ways of smashing an object as opposed to character "Y" having 1 way of doing it doesn't mean that character X has the advantage. Especially considering the fact that character Y's way of doing it is just as efficient as anything character X can do.

Versatility isn't the deciding factor here.

Originally posted by batdude123
And I'm saying Superman's "lack of versatility" is never really an issue because he's consistently portrayed as the most combat effective hero out there.
In comics, I agree. Superman makes excellent use of his powerset, typically better than, say, Thor, who tends to do a lot of brawling and pummeling, or Surfer, who zips about blasting.

But my understanding is, in the forum, we grant that any character will use his/her powerset to fullest potential. So given what Superman can do with his (closed) powerset, imagine what the other three could accomplish with their open powersets. As is, they often have to be dumbed down so writers can consistently (more/less) fashion effective stories.

Originally posted by batdude123
Character "X" having 10 different ways of smashing an object as opposed to character "Y" having 1 way of doing it doesn't mean that character X has the advantage. Especially considering the fact that character Y's way of doing it is just as efficient as anything character X can do.

Versatility isn't the deciding factor here.

To take ur use of character X and Y but put it in a different light,
Characters Xs versatility gives him defensive options that character Y doesnt have( forcefields and such in addition to durability). Not only that, but character X versatility also gives him ways to take out the character Y without forcefully smashing it (energy absorption as opposed to blasts) or at least soften the object up and make it easier to smash. This is considerably more efficient than character Ys method of simply attempting to smash character X who in addition to being extremely durable has extra defences.

Hence versatility is a big advantage in this scenario.

Team 2 for the stomp. Hals the weak link!

Originally posted by Mindship
In comics, I agree. Superman makes excellent use of his powerset, typically better than, say, Thor, who tends to do a lot of brawling and pummeling, or Surfer, who zips about blasting.

But my understanding is, in the forum, we grant that any character will use his/her powerset to fullest potential. So given what Superman can do with his (closed) powerset, imagine what the other three could accomplish with their open powersets. As is, they often have to be dumbed down so writers can consistently (more/less) fashion effective stories.

Thing is though, Superman, while having a relatively closed power set, is still just as effective as them in battle related scenarios.

More options don't = more wins.

Originally posted by Naija boy
To take ur use of character X and Y but put it in a different light,
Characters Xs versatility gives him defensive options that character Y doesnt have( forcefields and such in addition to durability). Not only that, but character X versatility also gives him ways to take out the character Y without forcefully smashing it (energy absorption as opposed to blasts) or at least soften the object up and make it easier to smash. This is considerably more efficient than character Y simply attempting to smash character X who in addition to being extremely durable has extra defences.

Hence versatility is a big advantage in this scenario.

Which translates into "I have to do 'this,' and then 'this,' and then 'this,' etc. in order to accomplish my task." Whereas character Y just does it.

Team 1.

Originally posted by batdude123
More options don't = more wins. Not necessarily. It could, especially when (forum-ruled) opponents are fairly evenly matched in other factors.

Lol.

What does versatility matter when, apparently, Surfer is so much more powerful than Superman that he just blasts him and 1 shots him or punches him and he explodes.

Originally posted by batdude123

Which translates into "I have to do 'this,' and then 'this,' and then 'this,' etc. in order to accomplish my task." Whereas character Y just does it.

Not really. It actually makes his task alot easier and his opponents task alot harder. Its actually like "I can do this to accomplish my task or combine this and this and accomplish my task in half the time while making ur task twice as hard"

Character "Y" just does it using his one way but it will take far longer to take down X than vice versa because of Xs versatility.

Agreed ^

I cant believe that people are actually saying that superman is as powerful as a guy that blowed up a planet just by powering up and destroyed a universe.

Originally posted by carver9
I cant believe that people are actually saying that superman is as powerful as a guy that blowed up a planet just by powering up and destroyed a universe.

Failol.

Originally posted by carver9
I cant believe that people are actually saying that superman is as powerful as a guy that blowed up a planet just by powering up and destroyed a universe.

facepalm

How Hal, who rely on a set charge, can be as powerful as the rest of these 3, makes no sense to me. There's a guy who's known and fought alongside him for 20 years or so, and there's a god with insane absorbing abilities.

In fact, the ring's limits seems to be just a big a weakness for Hal, as the kryptonite thing for Superman.

Originally posted by Spire
Failol.

I did fail on that post, not universe but galaxy. He also consumed an entire sun. Took punches from tenebris and aegis. Physically dominated abraxas. Followed a beam of light that was going light speed to its destination. Hell, the list goes on; Silver surfer and Thor is the most powerful, next is Superman, than Orion.

Originally posted by Spire
Surfer punches him and he explodes.

Wut.

team 1..
Surfer > Thor
Hal > Supes

Team 2

Team 1.

Split.....

No exploting weakness makes this much more closer of a fight.

However I do want to say T1 wins because Thor doesnt have Odinforce anymore and we havent see him in action for the last few issues. I want to see Hal beat Supes but will prob loose.

So Thor loses because you haven't seen him in action lately?

After he lost his Odin power, we dont know what his limit is. But he wont be what he was with it.

Originally posted by The Nuul
After he lost his Odin power, we dont know what his limit is.

Seems like he's back to his original levels. At first he was a bit down in the dumps about the deal with his grandfather, but he seems to be doing okay now.

Thats a safe estimate, yes. But we will have to wait and find out.

He is currently depowered. His mental state is very bad. He doesn't want to hurt nobody after killing his GF

^ GirlFriend?

Grandfather but close

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Grandfather but close


got u there.....

Few people pummel better than Thor and Superman. And Hal is the weak-link here. Unless they start pumping each other with power for devastating shots, this is a bit one-sided.

Team 2 8/10.

Hal has KO'd supes before and can do it again.

Thor and SS..........good fight, but I really think (here come the Superman fanboys when I say this) that Hal can finish off Supes and tip the scales in SS's favor.

Team 1.

^ My memory be hazy, which instance are you referring to where Hal KO'ed Superman?

Hal Ko'd Supes after he gave up the Parallax power the first time, he took Kyle's ring and KO'd Supes with it.

John took out Supes himself once. A GOOD GL is nothing to underestimate. I admit most of the now 7200 are scrubs, but Hal and the like are in a league of their own.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
He is currently depowered. His mental state is very bad. He doesn't want to hurt nobody after killing his GF

Which changed in his annual. He overcame the fear of accidentally killing someone.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Which changed in his annual. He overcame the fear of accidentally killing someone.
I read it, and it didn't end. He only gained a little extra confidence in himself. Black, or whatever his name is still called him a coward, and Thor acknowledged it

Originally posted by xJLxKing
I read it, and it didn't end. He only gained a little extra confidence in himself. Black, or whatever his name is still called him a coward, and Thor acknowledged it

Doesn't matter what they said, at the end we saw that Thor was able to KO the guy he was barely able to affect earlier on. Shows a distinct increase in power.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Doesn't matter what they said, at the end we saw that Thor was able to KO the guy he was barely able to affect earlier on. Shows a distinct increase in power.
And that means he is at full power? Maybe he just gained some confidence like I said.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
And that means he is at full power? Maybe he just gained some confidence like I said.

He went from being able to take out someone who was clearly his superior before

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He went from being able to take out someone who was clearly his superior before
Again, how does that mean he is back at full strength? Unless you are suggesting that it takes a full powered Thor to beat that same opponent?

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Again, how does that mean he is back at full strength? Unless you are suggesting that it takes a full powered Thor to beat that same opponent?

I think it would.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I think it would.
I think we are done here
We'll just have to wait for the next issue

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
Hal Ko'd Supes after he gave up the Parallax power the first time, he took Kyle's ring and KO'd Supes with it.

John took out Supes himself once. A GOOD GL is nothing to underestimate. I admit most of the now 7200 are scrubs, but Hal and the like are in a league of their own. I don't recall him saying he was giving up the Parallax power or limiting himself. Although he hadn't had his power fully replenished by Ganthet until after the fight, it's debatable whether he was also using his residual Parallax energies or not. Also, and much more importantly, the mullet haircut Superman was sporting clearly made him weaker.

When did Stewart take out Superman?

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
When did Stewart take out Superman?

Rebirth, hit Superman's eyes with two beams.

It was a complete cheap shot though.

^ He did hurt him, but I don't recall Superman being KO'ed.

Team 1.

SS > Thor > Hal = Superman

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ He did hurt him, but I don't recall Superman being KO'ed.
It's hard to determine whether Superman was unconscious or not. The scene changed after Superman hit the ground. Hal's ring later shows John had time to take down the other heroes present and gain a hold of Wonder Woman during Kal's recovery though. If Superman wasn't koed, he was rocked pretty hard.

Superman was out. Reread Rebirth.

Team one loses.

There's no evidence of Superman being knocked out.

Still a difference between fighting an ally you don't want to hurt and being confused of the situation and stuff, and being in a forum battle against them too.

While some might think that seeing as you can't really flex your eyeballs, being able to prepare for the attack wouldn't have made a difference. But there is no way John would've been able to eye-laser an aware Superman. The attack might have done as much damage, but Superman has his own set of lasers.

No GL is eye-blasting Supes when he's firing his heat vision.

I don't think anyone denies it was a cheap shot that may not achieve the same goal under different circumstances. In fact, the trick is nigh useless if Superman fights back.

Still, Superman was functionally out of the battle for at least a small amount of time.

Supes wasn't even looking for a fight. He was trying to figure out if John was ok. People trying to use this as some sort of feat is laughable imo.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Supes wasn't even looking for a fight. He was trying to figure out if John was ok. People trying to use this as some sort of feat is laughable imo.

Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here.

pr1983

Originally posted by -Pr-
pr1983

Is he going to flex his eyes?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like we've established for the millionth time, John attacked Superman when he was unaware. You don't need to reinforce that once again.

But like I also said, if that attack landed on an aware Superman, what could he do? Kal could stop the attack from reaching him with his heat vision and speed. But this doesn't say anything about his durability, if an attack like that did strike him again, it would affect him in just the same manner. But an attack like that won't hit him again, not here.
No, you are wrong

Originally posted by xJLxKing
No, you are wrong

About what?

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
About what?

Originally posted by xJLxKing


What would be different?

It's his eyes.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
What would be different?

It's his eyes.
Eye lids! flinching of the muscles around the eye

Anyone who seriously wants to contend that John could take Superman has this beauty to contend with:

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-2.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-3.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-4.jpg

so, yeah...

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Eye lids! flinching of the muscles around the eye

Okay, good point.

Closing his eyes could make a difference.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Okay, good point.

Closing his eyes could make a difference.
Yeah

Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone who seriously wants to contend that John could take Superman has this beauty to contend with:

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-2.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-3.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-4.jpg

so, yeah... Not to mention the other fight where Supes effectively faught him and Captain Atom, and like a dozen or so other guys at once in Superman Batman.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not to mention the other fight where Supes effectively faught him and Captain Atom, and like a dozen or so other guys at once in Superman Batman.

ooh, i'd forgotten that one.

what they have in common: john is TRYING to put superman down/contain him.

in Rebirth, Superman isn't.

So yeah Paul?

So falugging what.

You seem to be reading what you want.

Originally posted by Juntai
Not to mention the other fight where Supes effectively faught him and Captain Atom, and like a dozen or so other guys at once in Superman Batman.
Originally posted by -Pr-
ooh, i'd forgotten that one.

what they have in common: john is TRYING to put superman down/contain him.

in Rebirth, Superman isn't.
Guys, most of us aren't commenting on whether John could take Superman or not. You're extracting more from those posts than was typed.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
So yeah Paul?

So falugging what.

You seem to be reading what you want.

quiet goldilocks, there are men talking.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Guys, most of us aren't commenting on whether John could take Superman or not. You're extracting more from those posts than was typed.

that, and i'm just really bored.

and i did say "for anyone"

all it takes is 1.

Originally posted by -Pr-
quiet goldilocks, there are men talking.


. On snap he went Ben Grimm on his Thor loving @$$

Originally posted by -Pr-
Anyone who seriously wants to contend that John could take Superman has this beauty to contend with:

http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-2.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-3.jpg http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii378/prsupes/th_AOS642-4.jpg

so, yeah...

Plus Public Enemies...

Originally posted by -Pr-


that, and i'm just really bored.

and i did say "for anyone"

all it takes is 1.
I gotcha. It must be Kris's fault.

John can't even take the human flame.

Originally posted by batdude123
Plus Public Enemies...

Fail.

Juntai blitz-knowledged you.

Originally posted by StyleTime
I gotcha. It must be Kris's fault.

works for me.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
John can't even take the human flame.

Originally posted by batdude123
1pimpslap

let me guess, that's juntai on the left?

I'd forgotten how awesome this forum can be.

Originally posted by -Pr-
let me guess, that's juntai on the left? PR on fire today

Originally posted by -Pr-
let me guess, that's juntai on the left?

And Philo on the right.

And you watching in the corner, jealous of Philo.

Juntai is tall and fit. The same as me.

So those chubby guys are neither of us. Considering you're the one nicknamed fatnude, I'd say you're one of them.

Or maybe that's just a literal representation of your cum-related self-splashing abstract fantasies. So in a twist of fate, those are both you.

Hey, **** you.

Like I said, that was all about the angle in which the picture was taken.

@ thread.

Originally posted by batdude123
Indeed. I got a view from the other angle. The image still gives me nightmares. The one with my penis flapping and strangling people left and right ?

Were you the guy watching It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on his laptop that got up and ran away crying ?

Originally posted by batdude123
First of all, your penis couldn't strangle an ant.

Second of all... yes. uhuh
That was kinda funny.

Originally posted by batdude123
First of all, your penis couldn't strangle an ant.

Second of all... yes. uhuh

With its circumference, that'd be like trying to put a chokehold on it. So you're right, that is physically impossible. uhuh

Originally posted by batdude123
Your fat swallowed what little of a penis you ever had into your body. biscuits

You...

Y...

Pah.

You're right.

Originally posted by batdude123
And Philo on the right.

And you watching in the corner, jealous of Philo.

you're just pissed cos you weren't invited.

This is a great thread. IMO SS>Thor and Superman>Hal so I don't know yet. Let me think some more.

Just the way you like it.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Team 1.
Thor seems to came back to his classic lvl, while Surfer recently stomped BRB.
Which makes him the biggest gun.



If that's the case.... im gonna have to go with
Surfer/GL 5.5/10
If you say he stomped Beta Ray Bill, BRB aint no Thor. So close one to call. Surfer just a little too much to handle. With Hal along, that's quite a combo. Supes and Thor's brute strength (we're talking about planet crushing strength here btw) will make it real tough for that cosmic duo. So once again it's gonna be real close.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
If that's the case.... im gonna have to go with
Surfer/GL 5.5/10
If you say he stomped Beta Ray Bill, BRB aint no Thor. So close one to call. Surfer just a little too much to handle. With Hal along, that's quite a combo. Supes and Thor's brute strength (we're talking about planet crushing strength here btw) will make it real tough for that cosmic duo. So once again it's gonna be real close.
Thor beat SS

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thor beat SS

Thor turns Silver Surfer into salt.

Originally posted by batdude123
Thor turns Silver Surfer into salt.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Thor beat SS




In terms of straight up power level....the 4 in question are about equal as you can get. But that cosmic duo has versatility(there goes that annoying word again =P) in their favor. Since Hal is really just human protected by his ring's aura, the key is for him to survive a blitz from the 2 powerhouses as well as avoid a long drawn out battle. I think Hal and Norrin can and have to beat the 2 midway through the fight since an extended battle will be tough on Hal i believe since. The other 3 have an almost inexhaustible source of stamina and power.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Since Hal is really just human protected by his ring's aura, the key is for him to survive a blitz from the 2 powerhouses as well as avoid a long drawn out battle.

Indeed.

Thor is all blitz in his battles.

Thor vs. Silver Surfer is one of those stalemates I can't make up my mind over. So it comes down to Superman vs. Hal...I think Superman wins. So, Team 2.

Originally posted by Juk3n
hey , are there any scans of this floating about do you can direct me to? Any Herald stomping BRB is a big feat.



Yeah. I was wondering about that too. I'm guessing it's from Godhunter TPB. The one with Beta Ray Bill Crushing planets right b4 Galactus gets to finalize his feedding in order for him to starve. Post some scans!!!

Originally posted by roughrider
Thor vs. Silver Surfer is one of those stalemates I can't make up my mind over. So it comes down to Superman vs. Hal...I think Superman wins. So, Team 2. How can't you make up your mind about that when it's clearly Thor.

I think Team 2 take this 7/10. I know people like Hal a lot but I just think SS has too much weight to carry in this fight and it won't be enough.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can't you make up your mind about that when it's clearly Thor.

what do you mean "clearly"

its a close fight either way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can't you make up your mind about that when it's clearly Thor. Yes it's very Clear.

Originally posted by -Pr-
what do you mean "clearly"

its a close fight either way. Against the Surfer? What? The guy curbed him twice in one story. Prior to that Surfer even agreed Thor is more powerful in their first fight in which the Surfer was amped by Loki.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Against the Surfer? What? The guy curbed him twice in one story. Prior to that Surfer even agreed Thor is more powerful in their first fight in which the Surfer was amped by Loki.

surfer and thor are peers. they always have been.

Originally posted by -Pr-
surfer and thor are peers. they always have been. If Thor goes all out he's just too much for the Surfer. That was proven in blood and thunder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If Thor goes all out he's just too much for the Surfer. That was proven in blood and thunder.

i think thor would win, personally. i'm just saying that he's not going to get 10/10, nor should he.

all out surfer vs all out thor wouldnt be a stomp in either man's favour.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i think thor would win, personally. i'm just saying that he's not going to get 10/10, nor should he.

all out surfer vs all out thor wouldnt be a stomp in either man's favour. I don't think he'd win all ten either I just mean it's obvious to me anyways he takes a clear majority.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I don't think he'd win all ten either I just mean it's obvious to me anyways he takes a clear majority.

then that's wonderful for you.

Originally posted by -Pr-
then that's wonderful for you. And Thor. Mostly Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And Thor. Mostly Thor.

i'm sure he's cringing right now.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm sure he's cringing right now. I will wield the hammer come feb. Look out kmc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will wield the hammer come feb. Look out kmc.

facepalm

Originally posted by batdude123
facepalm So do you think the jla fight against Thor should be valid or not?

Originally posted by quanchi112
So do you think the jla fight against Thor should be valid or not?

My dials will go to 11 come February.

Originally posted by batdude123
My dials will go to 11 come February. They'll need to go higher.

Originally posted by quanchi112
They'll need to go higher.

Be careful what you wish for.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I will wield the hammer come feb. Look out kmc.

just keep it in your pants e-toughguy.

Originally posted by batdude123
Be careful what you wish for. I think I'll be ok. Originally posted by -Pr-
just keep it in your pants e-toughguy. Don't tell me what to do.

Originally posted by batdude123
My dials will go to 11 come February.

WTF did you change your avatar? I need something late at night to help me.. ummmm yeah... HAHA

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
WTF did you change your avatar? I need something late at night to help me.. ummmm yeah... HAHA

I had to change it.

I was starting to get too obsessed with her.

Actually I don't agree with any of Thor vs. Silver Surfer fights.
Theoretically Surfer should demolish Thor everytime. I mean SS has light speed reflexes, able to move very fast, can amp strength far beyond Thor's, can phase through Thor's attacks, can create shields, can absorb energy, can create black holes, etc. Thor beating Surfer is not only ridiculous but contradictory to comics.

So I say that since SS>Thor and Superman>Hal then each team gets 5/10.

Originally posted by h1a8
Actually I don't agree with any of Thor vs. Silver Surfer fights.
Theoretically Surfer should demolish Thor everytime. I mean SS has light speed reflexes, able to move very fast, can amp strength far beyond Thor's, can phase through Thor's attacks, can create shields, can absorb energy, can create black holes, etc. Thor beating Surfer is not only ridiculous but contradictory to comics.

So I say that since SS>Thor and Superman>Hal then each team gets 5/10. We don't ignore the comics over here. Thor has stomped the Surfer and you acted like it's contradictory is further proof you are clueless about what happens inside the books themselves.

Surfer should beat Thor..when he's serious..he actually stomp BRB..that means he can beat Thor..

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Surfer should beat Thor..when he's serious..he actually stomp BRB..that means he can beat Thor..
No. Thor is far greater than BRB. Thor has more powers. Uses them more. Thor could soul suck Surfer dry.

BS..he can't soul suck Surfer..and Thor is not far greater than BRB..

Originally posted by Zeuodin
No. Thor is far greater than BRB. Thor has more powers. Uses them more. Thor could soul suck Surfer dry.
Surfer resisted a "soul suck" from the Soul Gem, I doubt Thor would fare any better.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We don't ignore the comics over here. Thor has stomped the Surfer and you acted like it's contradictory is further proof you are clueless about what happens inside the books themselves.

So what if Spider-man stomps Firelord everytime they meet and what if Firelord stomps or stalemates Silver Surfer every time they meet? . What would you say?