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WWHulk

vs

Superman- can only use heat vision and super breath
Wonderwoman- can only use lasso
Green Lantern Kyle and Hal- can only create sheilds
Plastic Man
Aquaman
Red Tornado

who wins?

Originally posted by SumOfAllFear
WWHulk

vs

Wonderwoman- can only use lasso


Should be enough right?

define "shields".

Originally posted by SumOfAllFear
WWHulk

vs

Superman- can only use heat vision and super breath
Wonderwoman- can only use lasso
Green Lantern Kyle and Hal- can only create sheilds
Plastic Man
Aquaman
Red Tornado

who wins?

This ain't Hulk comic, so team takes it.

Red Tornado ripped Solomon Grundy apart didn't he? Also a shield can be a lot of things. They could use their shields to strike hulk. I'd think that WW just has to lasso Hulk while Superman lobotomizes him with his HV.

Lots of bfr options.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
define "shields".
defensive sheilds

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Lots of bfr options.
no bfr

Originally posted by SumOfAllFear
no bfr
still spite, what the hell is he going to do about Plastic man?

Originally posted by SumOfAllFear
WWHulk

vs

Superman- can only use heat vision and super breath
Wonderwoman- can only use lasso
Green Lantern Kyle and Hal- can only create sheilds
Plastic Man
Aquaman
Red Tornado

who wins? wtfawe

Plasticman wraps him up while AC punches the hell out of him.

This is trippy, but fun!


WW could lasso Hulk and tie the other end to Red Tornado, and then he could create a cyclone and spin Hulk around, stopping every so often to let Hulk smash into something.

Plastic Man could wrap himself around Hulk and a GL shield, kinda like strapping Hulk down. And then WW could lasso Superman and use him like a wrecking ball.

Supes could HV Hulk's heart out, and GL could create a shield in the wound so it can't heal up.


But Supes HV lobotomizing Hulk would be too brief to be useful. Supes HV would be put to much better use if he HV'd Hulk's knees or eyes or something to disable Hulk.

Originally posted by Master Court

But Supes HV lobotomizing Hulk would be too brief to be useful. Supes HV would be put to much better use if he HV'd Hulk's knees or eyes or something to disable Hulk.

What if Superman melted away Hulk's skull, and GL pulled his brains out. When Hulk regenerates, would he even remember what the hell is going on?

Originally posted by Master Court
This is trippy, but fun!


WW could lasso Hulk and tie the other end to Red Tornado, and then he could create a cyclone and spin Hulk around, stopping every so often to let Hulk smash into something.

Plastic Man could wrap himself around Hulk and a GL shield, kinda like strapping Hulk down. And then WW could lasso Superman and use him like a wrecking ball.

Supes could HV Hulk's heart out, and GL could create a shield in the wound so it can't heal up.


But Supes HV lobotomizing Hulk would be too brief to be useful. Supes HV would be put to much better use if he HV'd Hulk's knees or eyes or something to disable Hulk. the only thing that might back fire is plastic man. Reed did something similar and
hulk suck him inside his stomach

Originally posted by Master Court



But Supes HV lobotomizing Hulk would be too brief to be useful. Supes HV would be put to much better use if he HV'd Hulk's knees or eyes or something to disable Hulk.

There's no defined limit to Superman's HV. It has burned hotter than a star IIRC. He could beat WWH with that, IMO, not just put him on his knees.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
the only thing that might back fire is plastic man. Reed did something similar and
hulk suck him inside his stomach

There's a big difference between Plastic Man and Reed.

Originally posted by The Pict



There's a big difference between Plastic Man and Reed. So how would plastic man resist getting sucked into Hulk's stomach ?????

By farting.

^ pure awsomeness

Originally posted by galactusischere
still spite, what the hell is he going to do about Plastic man?
what doomsday did

Originally posted by Placidity
By farting.

So Reed Richards can't fart?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Plasticman wraps him up while AC punches the hell out of him.

which would do nothing have you seen WWH

Originally posted by Master Court
This is trippy, but fun!


WW could lasso Hulk and tie the other end to Red Tornado, and then he could create a cyclone and spin Hulk around, stopping every so often to let Hulk smash into something.

Plastic Man could wrap himself around Hulk and a GL shield, kinda like strapping Hulk down. And then WW could lasso Superman and use him like a wrecking ball.

Supes could HV Hulk's heart out, and GL could create a shield in the wound so it can't heal up.


But Supes HV lobotomizing Hulk would be too brief to be useful. Supes HV would be put to much better use if he HV'd Hulk's knees or eyes or something to disable Hulk.

if everything you said went off without a problem hulk would heal from it in about a 1 min.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Red Tornado ripped Solomon Grundy apart didn't he? Also a shield can be a lot of things. They could use their shields to strike hulk. I'd think that WW just has to lasso Hulk while Superman lobotomizes him with his HV.

that grundy's durability is much much less then WWH. and the lobotomization would heal and hulk would be fine.

Originally posted by Placidity
What if Superman melted away Hulk's skull, and GL pulled his brains out. When Hulk regenerates, would he even remember what the hell is going on?
maybe not but that is out of character for superman and GL sooooo that argument can't be use and your assuming that WWH is just standing their.

Originally posted by jasofisc
if everything you said went off without a problem hulk would heal from it in about a 1 min.

What does Hulk do when he's lasso'd.

Originally posted by The Pict
There's no defined limit to Superman's HV. It has burned hotter than a star IIRC. He could beat WWH with that, IMO, not just put him on his knees.



There's a big difference between Plastic Man and Reed.

their not defined limit to hulks HV or durability that doesn't mean their's not one. also i didn't realize blood lust was one. oh wait it's not. (just a note)As far as superman's HV being hotter then the sun if he used that kind of heat on earth (which the scan that those words are taken from was when supes was on earth) then wouldn't he ignite the atmostphire?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
What does Hulk do when he's lasso'd.

i'm not sure what the deal with the lasso is anymore. I thought it was unbreakable, and if you got insnared that you would be helpless and under WW control. yet that's not what happened when it was on superboy prime, also bizzaro broke it. so to answer your question i'm not sure.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
So Reed Richards can't fart?

He can't fart at will.

Originally posted by Placidity
By farting. Well i am sure that leave a bad taste in Hulks mouth. I guess if he did this WWh might BFR himself to go brush his teeth

PLastic man solos

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
PLastic man solos

show me one time plastic has soloed a top tier character.

Originally posted by jasofisc
show me one time plastic has soloed a top tier character.

He pretty much beat Fernus

Originally posted by jasofisc
which would do nothing have you seen WWH Yes his durability was good enough that he could take 100's of punches from AC without being hurt? I don't think so since Plasticman can hold him for as long as he wants it would just take time for AC to drop him.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
He pretty much beat Fernus

not by himself, anyone else

Originally posted by iceman24567
Yes his durability was good enough that he could take 100's of punches from AC without being hurt? I don't think so since Plasticman can hold him for as long as he wants it would just take time for AC to drop him.

ac would drop from being to tired before hulk would even be worried

I highly doubt that

Originally posted by jasofisc
that grundy's durability is much much less then WWH. and the lobotomization would heal and hulk would be fine.

based on what? hulk's hf was pretty nice, but his durability? not so much.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on what? hulk's hf was pretty nice, but his durability? not so much.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on what? hulk's hf was pretty nice, but his durability? not so much. Well his durability was higher then savage Hulk but it is hard to so how much higher maybe just a notch above savage hulk judging by the Wolverine WWH battle you know the whole harder to cut remarks

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Well his durability was higher then savage Hulk but it is hard to so how much higher maybe just a notch above savage hulk judging by the Wolverine WWH battle you know the whole harder to cut remarks

he was still being cut by wolverine, stabbed by warpath etc.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he was still being cut by wolverine, stabbed by warpath etc. Agreed just saying his durability was higher then his Savage version not leaps and bound higher but it was higher.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Agreed just saying his durability was higher then his Savage version not leaps and bound higher but it was higher.

oh, definitely.

On a side note, the adamantium and vibranium are the only things that cut Hulk. Actually, they're the only things to have ever cut Hulk, really. Give or take. It's kinda like a weakness. Like, no matter how powerful Supeman got, he was always vulnerable to kryptonite. Except what's-his-face.

But we can't judge WWHulk's durability based on just a few moments where his well known lacking piercing resistance failed him. But his blunt durability tanked shots from Colossus and Thing. He ate shots from Sentry in stride. And take the Hercules fight. Hercules did really well, but that was about skill, not power. Now, I know the HF is what cleaned Hulk up by the end, but the point is that Hulk took everything and didn't really budge much. His blunt durability, besides a little nose-bleed here and there, was off the chizain. I doubt Red Tornado could recreate the Grundy rip with WWHulk.

And the Supes HV thing, well, he would have to keep a constant line of sight into Hulk's eyes to do it proper. That'd be pretty hard. Not to compare HV's here, but Glad's didn't do so well against Hulk, and his HV is also said to burn hotter than the hottest star. That pretty much trumps even the core of the Sun, considering there are stars whose surfaces alone are hotter then the inner layers of the Sun, and of course the Sun itself is a star. I'm not saying Supes couldn't blast him, I'm just saying it'd be difficult, and if Hulk was moving around then chances are he would be healing up the damage as it happened. Unlike when Hulk was tanking Glad's HV where he just kept walking forward like a dumbass. As long as Hulk prevents the HV from being focused on one point for too long, he can pretty much fight through it.

But! That's where Plastic Man comes in, mi amigos. He straps Hulk's ass down to a GL shield and Supes can just go "BREEEEEE-FOOOOOSH!!!!".

Superman uses his breath to blast Hulk into space

Originally posted by Master Court
On a side note, the adamantium and vibranium are the only things that cut Hulk. Actually, they're the only things to have ever cut Hulk, really. Not true Skaar impaled Daddy with WWH sword and Rulk impaled him with a trident i am sure there is more i not thinking of

Hal will beat WWH using only shield..

WWH's durability was pretty crappy.

Regular steel cut Hulk's throat in Nightmerica.

Originally posted by -Pr-
based on what? hulk's hf was pretty nice, but his durability? not so much.

and grundy was ripped into bits by an F-5 tornato (according to Red Tornato) while WWh surived a blast that riped a chunck out of the moon the size of road island. so ripped away by a tornato or being in one piece after a blast that riped a chunck the size of road island out of the moon.

Originally posted by -Pr-
he was still being cut by wolverine, stabbed by warpath etc.

unlike grundy ripped apart by wind (note wolverine's blades have cut open thanos and warpath's blades were vibraiaom) apart of durriblity is a healing factor.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Superman uses his breath to blast Hulk into space

please state a time where superman has done this. also all WWH hulk has to do is grab a hold of the bed rock of where ever he's at.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not true Skaar impaled Daddy with WWH sword and Rulk impaled him with a trident i am sure there is more i not thinking of

aren't both metals about the same density as atomanium??? those shield his warbond used repeled atomantium bulets.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
Hal will beat WWH using only shield..

how will he do that by using only defensive sheilds? even hall has stated that his constructs aren't indestructble so he's not just going to capture him.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
WWH's durability was pretty crappy.
are you only counting the duriblity of his skin or the whole package which includes his Healing factor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regular steel cut Hulk's throat in Nightmerica.

so all those times bullets just bounced off of him we're not counting huh.

Originally posted by jasofisc
and grundy was ripped into bits by an F-5 tornato (according to Red Tornato) while WWh surived a blast that riped a chunck out of the moon the size of road island. so ripped away by a tornato or being in one piece after a blast that riped a chunck the size of road island out of the moon. It was quick vibrating steel btw

so nobody has come us with how this justice league and do anything in character with thier limitations that will take WWH down, at least nothing that is supported. (with the possible exception of WW laso) however their are tons of thing WWh can do towards these guys. he can rip apart Plastic man (like doomsday did) or just jump somewhere to find liquid nitrogen (WWH isn't stupid) or swollow him (like he did to reed) punch WW and supes into putty both of them have been knocked out by brute force and supes apears to be in the process of being depowered. red tornato can be ripped apart pretty easly, and Hal if he can just make defensive sheilds then he's done fore. those shield have been and can be destroyed.

Originally posted by vansonbee
It was quick vibrating steel btw

did you quote the wrong thing?

Originally posted by jasofisc
are you only counting the duriblity of his skin or the whole package which includes his Healing factor.

Healing Factor and Durability are two seperate things.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Healing Factor and Durability are two seperate things.

marvel includes both in their stats under durablility

but if your saying your only including the durriblity of his skin then i understand where your coming from

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not true Skaar impaled Daddy with WWH sword and Rulk impaled him with a trident i am sure there is more i not thinking of

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Regular steel cut Hulk's throat in Nightmerica.

plus the first Wolverine Hulk encounter, Wolverine cutted Hulk also and at that point he had steel claws IIRC

Originally posted by Parmaniac
plus the first Wolverine Hulk encounter, Wolverine cutted Hulk also and at that point he had steel claws IIRC

oh please where is it stated that he had steel claws?????? and in the orgnal comic he didn't cut him. Also as i explained before the metal they use on skaar resisted adamantium bulets and the trident is a simlar hardness to adamantium as well. as far as the nightmere thing every character has bad crap showings. superman has been knocked out by a gas station before are we still using that.

Originally posted by jasofisc
oh please where is it stated that he had steel claws?????? and in the orgnal comic he didn't cut him. Also as i explained before the metal they use on skaar resisted adamantium bulets and the trident is a simlar hardness to adamantium as well. as far as the nightmere thing every character has bad crap showings. superman has been knocked out by a gas station before are we still using that. There is alway the tree Thor shoved into hulk's back

Also where was it stated the the trident is almost as hard as Adamanitum

Rip apart Plasticman like Doomsday?

Originally posted by jasofisc
and grundy was ripped into bits by an F-5 tornato (according to Red Tornato) while WWh surived a blast that riped a chunck out of the moon the size of road island. so ripped away by a tornato or being in one piece after a blast that riped a chunck the size of road island out of the moon.

an f-5 tornado being shoved down his throat by a being who is actual living air.

not any normal tornado.

^ it's definitely more dangerous in the body (obviously), but being "f-5" means that the air was only traveling +/- a couple hundred miles per hour. grundy's durability isn't close to hulk's.

Originally posted by jasofisc
so all those times bullets just bounced off of him we're not counting huh.

Well that's a pretty stupid post.

Hulk's durability depends on how angry he is. So naturally there's no reason to discredit anything.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ it's definitely more dangerous in the body (obviously), but being "f-5" means that the air was only traveling +/- a couple hundred miles per hour. grundy's durability isn't close to hulk's.

it's more than a couple, in fairness. and in close quarters.

wasn't saying it's as high as hulk's but it was still impressive, and remember: this was an injured, messed up red tornado. if he can pull an f-5 in THAT state, who knows what he can do at full strength.

F-over 9000

Originally posted by psycho gundam
F-over 9000

Originally posted by DarkOdin
There is alway the tree Thor shoved into hulk's back

Also where was it stated the the trident is almost as hard as Adamanitum

mainly a guess because no matter what it's hit it's never broke. it just seems like a big deal. in both cases they were shoved by very very strong people

Originally posted by iceman24567
Rip apart Plasticman like Doomsday?

it's in the doomsday wars

Originally posted by -Pr-
an f-5 tornado being shoved down his throat by a being who is actual living air.

not any normal tornado.

funny because red was quoting what happens during each tornado on the F scale so maybe your a little bias and not just reading what's there

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Well that's a pretty stupid post.

Hulk's durability depends on how angry he is. So naturally there's no reason to discredit anything.

yeah but hasn't buelts bounced off when he was relatively calm?

Originally posted by -Pr-
it's more than a couple, in fairness. and in close quarters.

wasn't saying it's as high as hulk's but it was still impressive, and remember: this was an injured, messed up red tornado. if he can pull an f-5 in THAT state, who knows what he can do at full strength.

thought you were saying that because red ripped apart grundy that he would rip apart the hulk.

Originally posted by jasofisc
yeah but hasn't buelts bounced off when he was relatively calm?

Like you just said, calm is relative.

A calm Hulk does not exist.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Like you just said, calm is relative.

A calm Hulk does not exist.

your right so what state was he in when he was cut by steel???

Originally posted by Badabing
wtfawe

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Not true Skaar impaled Daddy with WWH sword and Rulk impaled him with a trident i am sure there is more i not thinking of


Top-tiers can do it, sure. But when you consider the fact that Superman, Thor, Gladiator, Darkseid, Hercules, and other top-tiers have been bloodied just by fists and sometimes seem to get damaged by being tossed around hard enough, it doesn't really make a difference that top-tiers can cut Hulk with something sharp enough.


My point was that the only thing that low-tiers and normal people can harm Hulk with(non-PIS) is adamantium and vibranium. With 99% of Hulk's history showing him tanking canon shells and missiles, the occasional steel cut shouldn't count at all. My point was that adamantium and vibranium are mostly the only things that can cut Hulk, non-PIS.


Incidentally, where did they say what the trident was made of?


So, anyway, the only people in this thread that could KO Hulk with H2H are being handicapped. And they're also the only people that should be strong enough to penetrate Hulk with average objects(if indeed Hulk ever has been pierced without special circumstances).

Originally posted by jasofisc
thought you were saying that because red ripped apart grundy that he would rip apart the hulk.

considering we havent seen a full powered Tornado, i doubt we can definitively answer one way or another...

Originally posted by jasofisc
i'm not sure what the deal with the lasso is anymore. I thought it was unbreakable, and if you got insnared that you would be helpless and under WW control. yet that's not what happened when it was on superboy prime, also bizzaro broke it. so to answer your question i'm not sure.


It is unbreakable, except when it's not. I think Bizzaro was able to break the lasso not because of strength but because his messed up mind was unable to differentiate truth from falsehood, so truth had no meaning for him, and thus no power over him. Unless you can say the same for Hulk or you think he has the ability to alter truth like QoF, he isn't doing anything to the lasso.

I'd need to see scans for the SPB incident though.

i thought bizarro broke it in trinity, and i thought that wasnt canon?

Originally posted by -Pr-
i thought bizarro broke it in trinity, and i thought that wasnt canon?

No, you're right. That was just the reasoning behind why he could do it. It was pretty lame

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
It is unbreakable, except when it's not. I think Bizzaro was able to break the lasso not because of strength but because his messed up mind was unable to differentiate truth from falsehood, so truth had no meaning for him, and thus no power over him. Unless you can say the same for Hulk or you think he has the ability to alter truth like QoF, he isn't doing anything to the lasso.

I'd need to see scans for the SPB incident though.
QOF is high end reality manipulator. She actually changes what truth is. Bizaro broke the lasso in trinity. That wasn't part of the regular dcu.

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
No, you're right. That was just the reasoning behind why he could do it. It was pretty lame

oh, lol...

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
It is unbreakable, except when it's not. I think Bizzaro was able to break the lasso not because of strength but because his messed up mind was unable to differentiate truth from falsehood, so truth had no meaning for him, and thus no power over him. Unless you can say the same for Hulk or you think he has the ability to alter truth like QoF, he isn't doing anything to the lasso.

I'd need to see scans for the SPB incident though.

that's makes since about it's unbreakablity maybe doesn't really fit with the comic but makes since.


for the SPB thing it just when the heros are fighting him during the SC wonder woman and wonder girl double laso him and smash him into a car he was able to just shug off the lasos. I thought a person had to obey wonder woman but i guess not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i thought bizarro broke it in trinity, and i thought that wasnt canon?

yeap it was trinity didn't know that wasn't cannon