White Crown Phoenix vs The Fulcrum
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kgkg
It's funny that other than GS no one ever post in these Phoenix related threads.
guy222
GS helped me alot when I joined. He's a friend
He favors a character like we all do
Colossus-Big C
fulcrum is nothing but a side of eternity
iceman24567
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
fulcrum is nothing but a side of eternity This makes no sense.
KuRuPT Thanosi
I wish we knew who or what the Fulcrum is? That pisses me off they ended that series
guy222
Agreed
Stupid Marvel....Three issues short
galactusischere
Do we even know how powerful Fulcrum even was?
he said that Tiamut had managed to reach his levels(?)unlike others.
guy222
Originally posted by galactusischere
Do we even know how powerful Fulcrum even was?
he said that Tiamut had managed to reach his levels(?)unlike others.
That's a good point
Galan007
Originally posted by Nihilist
WCOTP white crown of the phoenix?
galactusischere
How can you take sides?
We don't even know how powerful fulcrum even was
guy222
take who side
my choice is the fulcrum
u have a winner
Knowsbleed33
Fulcrum has done nothing to suggest how powerful it is.
guy222
In ur opinion, what is he
Slaanesh
Celestials answer to him..so..i give this to The Fulcrum..
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
In ur opinion, what is he
Some conceptual entity.
Xplosive
He is not TOAA, because some Celestial won't reach such level. I mean Scathan was powerful as he was because of TOAA and then some Tiamut will reach it.
I think WPOTC takes out Tiamut and if it was said that Tiamut is his equal, I think then WPOTC wins. But it left me with feeling that when Fulcrum said that Tiamut has reached him, I don't think he was referring power wise.
And actually in my opinion, Fulcrum is too mysterious for now that we could choose and say who would win between WPOTC and Fulcrum. Heck, even WPOTC is still too mysterious at what she could really do.
guy222
Can't really say who The Fulcrum was
At least Wiki confirmed for a lil
How does Jean take out Tiamut
She can defeat over a trillion horde
U know I appreciate ur replies
Xplosive
Originally posted by guy222
Can't really say who The Fulcrum was
I don't think he is, but if he is, then Fulcrum wins not only against WPOTC, but against all. I think he is just another extremely powerful cosmic being below Living Tribunal. Celestials answering to him doesn't really say much.
Originally posted by guy222
How does Jean take out Tiamut
I just think WPOTC has greater power. I cannot go and say really about much feat wise (we should see more of WPOTC), but I think still feat wise for now, she goes beyond Tiamut.
Tiamut should also be see more to really find about his power level.
guy222
Marvel dropped the ball with the good Eternals series. We will never know because three issues still out there
If he was TOAA....LT's boss
If he wasn't...who was he
Celestials answering to a higher power and Tiamut achieved the ultimate = The Fulcrum. Speaks volumes
I like Jean all in white. Most powerful form
It be grand wouldn't it. The Communicator vs WPOTC
Jean holding in her hands and the Communicator standing vs all those Hordes
galactusischere
Originally posted by Xplosive
I don't think he is, but if he is, then Fulcrum wins not only against WPOTC, but against all. I think he is just another extremely powerful cosmic being below Living Tribunal. Celestials answering to him doesn't really say much.
I just think WPOTC has greater power. I cannot go and say really about much feat wise (we should see more of WPOTC), but I think still feat wise for now, she goes beyond Tiamut.
Tiamut should also be see more to really find about his power level.
Phoenix... has FEATS???
AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Xplosive
He is not TOAA, because some Celestial won't reach such level. I mean Scathan was powerful as he was because of TOAA and then some Tiamut will reach it.
I think WPOTC takes out Tiamut and if it was said that Tiamut is his equal, I think then WPOTC wins. But it left me with feeling that when Fulcrum said that Tiamut has reached him, I don't think he was referring power wise.
And actually in my opinion, Fulcrum is too mysterious for now that we could choose and say who would win between WPOTC and Fulcrum. Heck, even WPOTC is still too mysterious at what she could really do.
I agree that I don't think Fulcrum meant power wise, due to the fact it wasn't because of any amount of power etc Tiamut had produced, it was the fact that a Celestial, creatures that seem to be bound by protocal, would question the Fulcrum, or something like that...
guy222
Its how one views the issue
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
TOAA?
Come on buddy, you know better. There was nothing to suggest that the Fulcrum was the supreme being.
guy222
Whats the evidence to say he's not good friend
Knowsbleed33
That Tiamut is his equal.
guy222
And
That's nice isn't
Not enough to say one way or the other, but Wiki did confirm it for a week
Doom likes Wiki
Knowsbleed33
You can't be The One Above All if there's someone who is equal to you.
Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.
But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.
Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)
Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)
As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality.
In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.
guy222
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You can't be The One Above All if there's someone who is equal to you.
Who said that
U read the comic like me
guy222
Originally posted by iceman24567
True dat
who wins friend
and go lakers
guy222
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.
But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.
Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)
Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)
As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality.
In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.
Good to see ya my friend
In ur opinion, who is The Fulcrum
Knowsbleed33
I did read the book and I didn't see anything that made me believe the Fulcrum is TOAA.
guy222
Then who is he
I read it numerous times
And LT didn't write the wiki page when it appeared
-Pr-
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.
But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.
Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)
Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)
As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality.
In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.
facepalm
-Pr-
Originally posted by guy222
who wins pr
you're asking the wrong person. i honestly don't know...
guy222
partypoop
good to post again after being sick
Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
Then who is he
I read it numerous times
And LT didn't write the wiki page when it appeared
He's the Fulcrum, the guy who apparently created the Celestials. He's probably the prime Celestial.
guy222
A Prime Celestial over them all?
Knowsbleed33
They obviously take orders from someone.
Mr Master
Originally posted by Peterlane mk2
PF is still>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other abstract being
guy222
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
They obviously take orders from someone.
Not Eternity
The Fulcrum
Knowsbleed33
It was never said they answer to Eternity, only that he might've created them.
guy222
I know that good friend
I like the Brothers Tale
Wiki does also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreaming_Celestial
guy222
Doom likes it
Knowsbleed33
Doom is a worthless heap.
-Pr-
Originally posted by guy222
partypoop
good to post again after being sick
glad to have you back guy...
guy222
Thanks PR
The link I posted seals the deal for The Fulcrum
Its the second time Wiki has confirmed Fulcrum is TOAA
Knowsbleed33
You should know better. Wiki is not a reputable source.
guy222
I do buddy
And its the 2nd time its been there
U wouldn't mock Kirby's legacy would u
Lets live with it
I am
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