White Crown Phoenix vs The Fulcrum

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guy222
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guy222
The Fulcrum

kgkg
It's funny that other than GS no one ever post in these Phoenix related threads.

guy222
GS helped me alot when I joined. He's a friend

He favors a character like we all do

Colossus-Big C
fulcrum is nothing but a side of eternity

guy222
He is?

kgkg
^ he is bullshiting

guy222
I know my friend

iceman24567
Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
fulcrum is nothing but a side of eternity This makes no sense.

KuRuPT Thanosi
I wish we knew who or what the Fulcrum is? That pisses me off they ended that series

guy222
Agreed

Stupid Marvel....Three issues short

Nihilist
WCOTP

galactusischere
Do we even know how powerful Fulcrum even was?
he said that Tiamut had managed to reach his levels(?)unlike others.

Knowsbleed33
WPotC.

guy222
Originally posted by galactusischere
Do we even know how powerful Fulcrum even was?
he said that Tiamut had managed to reach his levels(?)unlike others.

That's a good point smile

Galan007
Originally posted by Nihilist
WCOTP white crown of the phoenix?

Prep-Man
Phoenix.

guy222
Fulcrum

galactusischere
How can you take sides?
We don't even know how powerful fulcrum even was

guy222
take who side

my choice is the fulcrum

u have a winner

Knowsbleed33
Fulcrum has done nothing to suggest how powerful it is.

guy222
In ur opinion, what is he

Slaanesh
Celestials answer to him..so..i give this to The Fulcrum..

guy222
thumb up

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
In ur opinion, what is he

Some conceptual entity.

guy222
TOAA?

Xplosive
He is not TOAA, because some Celestial won't reach such level. I mean Scathan was powerful as he was because of TOAA and then some Tiamut will reach it. smile

I think WPOTC takes out Tiamut and if it was said that Tiamut is his equal, I think then WPOTC wins. But it left me with feeling that when Fulcrum said that Tiamut has reached him, I don't think he was referring power wise.
And actually in my opinion, Fulcrum is too mysterious for now that we could choose and say who would win between WPOTC and Fulcrum. Heck, even WPOTC is still too mysterious at what she could really do.

guy222
Can't really say who The Fulcrum was

At least Wiki confirmed for a lil

How does Jean take out Tiamut

She can defeat over a trillion horde

U know I appreciate ur replies

Xplosive
Originally posted by guy222
Can't really say who The Fulcrum was

I don't think he is, but if he is, then Fulcrum wins not only against WPOTC, but against all. I think he is just another extremely powerful cosmic being below Living Tribunal. Celestials answering to him doesn't really say much.

Originally posted by guy222
How does Jean take out Tiamut

I just think WPOTC has greater power. I cannot go and say really about much feat wise (we should see more of WPOTC), but I think still feat wise for now, she goes beyond Tiamut.
Tiamut should also be see more to really find about his power level.

guy222
Marvel dropped the ball with the good Eternals series. We will never know because three issues still out there

If he was TOAA....LT's boss

If he wasn't...who was he

Celestials answering to a higher power and Tiamut achieved the ultimate = The Fulcrum. Speaks volumes

I like Jean all in white. Most powerful form

It be grand wouldn't it. The Communicator vs WPOTC

Jean holding in her hands and the Communicator standing vs all those Hordes

galactusischere
Originally posted by Xplosive
I don't think he is, but if he is, then Fulcrum wins not only against WPOTC, but against all. I think he is just another extremely powerful cosmic being below Living Tribunal. Celestials answering to him doesn't really say much.



I just think WPOTC has greater power. I cannot go and say really about much feat wise (we should see more of WPOTC), but I think still feat wise for now, she goes beyond Tiamut.
Tiamut should also be see more to really find about his power level.

Phoenix... has FEATS??? eek!

guy222
yes she does

AlmightyKfish
Originally posted by Xplosive
He is not TOAA, because some Celestial won't reach such level. I mean Scathan was powerful as he was because of TOAA and then some Tiamut will reach it. smile

I think WPOTC takes out Tiamut and if it was said that Tiamut is his equal, I think then WPOTC wins. But it left me with feeling that when Fulcrum said that Tiamut has reached him, I don't think he was referring power wise.
And actually in my opinion, Fulcrum is too mysterious for now that we could choose and say who would win between WPOTC and Fulcrum. Heck, even WPOTC is still too mysterious at what she could really do.

I agree that I don't think Fulcrum meant power wise, due to the fact it wasn't because of any amount of power etc Tiamut had produced, it was the fact that a Celestial, creatures that seem to be bound by protocal, would question the Fulcrum, or something like that...

guy222
Its how one views the issue

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
TOAA?

Come on buddy, you know better. There was nothing to suggest that the Fulcrum was the supreme being.

guy222
Whats the evidence to say he's not good friend

Knowsbleed33
That Tiamut is his equal.

guy222
And

That's nice isn't

Not enough to say one way or the other, but Wiki did confirm it for a week

Doom likes Wiki

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Knowsbleed33
You can't be The One Above All if there's someone who is equal to you.

iceman24567
True dat

Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.

But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.

Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)

Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)

As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality. smile

In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.

guy222
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
You can't be The One Above All if there's someone who is equal to you.

Who said that

U read the comic like me

guy222
Originally posted by iceman24567
True dat

who wins friend

and go lakers

guy222
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.

But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.

Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)

Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)

As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality. smile

In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.

Good to see ya my friend

In ur opinion, who is The Fulcrum

Knowsbleed33
I did read the book and I didn't see anything that made me believe the Fulcrum is TOAA.

guy222
Then who is he

I read it numerous times

And LT didn't write the wiki page when it appeared

-Pr-
Originally posted by Mr Master
Fulcrum isn't TOAA, like at all.

But if Celestials are his puppies,
then definitely the Fulcrum stomps WPOTC.

Heck, if freakin partial Cube beings (post-retcon Beyonder)
can go around granting others the full power of the Phoenix Force (Rachel Summers)

Celstials should be able to walk all over 15104's reality Jean Grey (WPOTC)

As for Jean supposedly holding reality 15104 in her hands,
meh, I've seen Uatu do the same thing effortlessly,
and Uatu didn't need to be in any White Hot Room in order to do so,
he did it withIN Reality. smile

In any case, ODG and myself have conclusively proven that wasn't even what Jean did,
basically, Jean never held any reality in her hands, like ever,
the scene was taken completely out of context by fanboys.

facepalm

guy222
who wins pr

-Pr-
Originally posted by guy222
who wins pr

you're asking the wrong person. i honestly don't know...

guy222
partypoop

stick out tongue

good to post again after being sick

Knowsbleed33
Originally posted by guy222
Then who is he

I read it numerous times

And LT didn't write the wiki page when it appeared

He's the Fulcrum, the guy who apparently created the Celestials. He's probably the prime Celestial.

guy222
A Prime Celestial over them all?

Knowsbleed33
They obviously take orders from someone.

Mr Master
Originally posted by Peterlane mk2

PF is still>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any other abstract being
laughing

guy222
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
They obviously take orders from someone.

Not Eternity

The Fulcrum

stick out tongue

Knowsbleed33
It was never said they answer to Eternity, only that he might've created them.

guy222
I know that good friend

I like the Brothers Tale


Wiki does also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreaming_Celestial

Knowsbleed33
Wiki sucks.

guy222
laughing out loud

Doom likes it

stick out tongue

Knowsbleed33
Doom is a worthless heap.

guy222
Like Richards

-Pr-
Originally posted by guy222
partypoop

stick out tongue

good to post again after being sick

glad to have you back guy...

guy222
Thanks PR smile

The link I posted seals the deal for The Fulcrum

Its the second time Wiki has confirmed Fulcrum is TOAA

Knowsbleed33
You should know better. Wiki is not a reputable source.

guy222
I do buddy

And its the 2nd time its been there

U wouldn't mock Kirby's legacy would u

Lets live with it

I am

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