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Thor has both odin force and zeus Magic

lol? He already defeated Mephisto without the odinforce.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lol? He already defeated Mephisto without the odinforce. which is pis. because mephisto is more powerful than thor.

Originally posted by Starscream M
which is pis. because mephisto is more powerful than thor.
Not according to Mephisto's fight with Black Panther, Thor and Surfer.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Not according to Mephisto's fight with Black Panther, Thor and Surfer. then, considering fights, galactus doesn't have a great record either.

but considering inherent powersets...mephisto should be more on odin's level than thor's.

Originally posted by Starscream M
then, considering fights, galactus doesn't have a great record either.

but considering inherent powersets...mephisto should be more on odin's level than thor's.

Unfortunately for Mephisto, he wasn't powered down in any of those incidents, unlike Galactus. Thus, faulty logic.

Magic? Wow.

Mephisto would be a sad hell ruler if he can't beat Thor.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Unfortunately for Mephisto, he wasn't powered down in any of those incidents, unlike Galactus. Thus, faulty logic.

Magic? Wow. mephisto is a ruler of a realm...thor is the son of a ruler of a realm. mephisto HAS to be more powerful than classic thor.

Originally posted by Starscream M
mephisto is a ruler of a realm...thor is the son of a ruler of a realm. mephisto HAS to be more powerful than classic thor.
Whether or not you rule a realm says -nothing- about your power level. People who rule realms are not necessarily omnipotent in their respective realms either, look at how many times Belasco has been overthrown.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mephisto would be a sad hell ruler if he can't beat Thor.

True. Mephisto managed to stalemate Galactus for a long time.
Now Thor has managed to drive off a weakened, hungry Galactus, but that was an over-performance on his part. I'm not convinced; Rune King Thor might be the one who could definitely win.

Mephisto

Silver surfer beat Mephisto in his own realm... in summary, Mephisto just hasn't been written well after 1060s... due to continuity Mephisto has to lose now. Just like Darkseid, DS SHOULD be very powerful, but due to continuity he has to lose a lot of fights... Batman beat his ass twice *tears*

Originally posted by np3228
Silver surfer beat Mephisto in his own realm...
As did Thor, and Thor also defeated all of Mephisto's demonds.

all of the above is PIS

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
all of the above is PIS

All of Mephisto's fights are PIS.

Right?

Thor wins. Mephisto is much weaker outside his realm and to give Thor the odinforce is just plain unfair.

Bam.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
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Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Bam. Pretty old stuff man, even older then Galactus & Mephisto fight in 1980s.

How would old feats be tangible to current mainstream, other than more confusion? turned

Originally posted by vansonbee
Pretty old stuff man, even older then Galactus & Mephisto fight in 1980s.

How would old feats be tangible to current mainstream, other than more confusion? turned It still counts.

Originally posted by vansonbee
Pretty old stuff man, even older then Galactus & Mephisto fight in 1980s.

How would old feats be tangible to current mainstream, other than more confusion? turned

How would they not?

The hell does 20-30 years have to say? has Mephisto's power level changed? No.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze


The hell does 20-30 years have to say? has Mephisto's power level changed? No. we don't know, really. superman has undergone VAST changes in just 10 years, not sure why it would strike you as unreasonable for Mephisto to change in 20 - 30 years.

Originally posted by Starscream M
we don't know, really. superman has undergone VAST changes in just 10 years, not sure why it would strike you as unreasonable for Mephisto to change in 20 - 30 years. If he has then prove it. People want to keep acting like Thor's feat don't count for no other reason than they happened a long time ago. We don't just disregard other feats for other characters because Superman has undergone major changes. If you feel Meph or Thor has you are more than welcome to prove it.

for the people saying thors power level has gone down. how much do u think hes gone down, and when and where did this happen. and if not any specific times are u saying over the past 20-30 he gradually weakened over the years to a point where its clearly noticeable that hes much weaker? sure his feats vary through the decades, but whose haven't that have been around that long with various writers. there have been high end feats and low end feats and feats in-between, but no drastic and clearly stated power fluctuations like d/c, nothing even comparable.

Originally posted by Raptor22
for the people saying thors power level has gone down. how much do u think hes gone down, and when and where did this happen. and if not any specific times are u saying over the past 20-30 he gradually weakened over the years to a point where its clearly noticeable that hes much weaker? sure his feats vary through the decades, but whose haven't that have been around that long with various writers. there have been high end feats and low end feats and feats in-between, but no drastic and clearly stated power fluctuations like d/c, nothing even comparable.

just because hes spent his time acquiring the knowledge of the runes, the odinforce and other stuff doesnt mean he cant still lift heavy shit. unless hes tried something comparable or easier and failed or a power fluctuation has been stated or shown i think the argument is kinda weak. i just dont think its too far fetched to think he couldnt recreate those feats in absence of evidence to dispute it.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
lol? He already defeated Mephisto without the odinforce. Only because Mephisto would not kill him. I'm unaware of whether the thread starter considered that Mephisto would be hampered with that same limitation in this fight. Because if not:

Mephisto 8/10. Originally posted by vansonbee
Pretty old stuff man, even older then Galactus & Mephisto fight in 1980s.

How would old feats be tangible to current mainstream, other than more confusion? Projecting confusion onto other people doesn't substantiate you claim that there is confusion. Thor is Thor. Mephisto is Mephisto. That was their first fight of several. Not that hard.