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So people have decided that Sise-Neg needs to die. Out of these people listed, which ones would be able to destroy Sise-Neg at the height of his power?

This isn't all at the same time against Sise-Neg, just one on one battles.

(This will help me gauge what the consensus is on just where Sise-Neg stands in total power compared to other top dogs)

TOAA
Presence
PR Beyonder
PR MM
LT
WPOTC
World's Funniest Myx
GEB
Lucifer
Michael
Anyone with IG or HOTU
Divine Spawn
MoM
Multi-Eternity
Multi-Infinity
Death (Marvel or Endless)

1,2 definetly, 3 possibly, 4 no, 5 possibly (but probably not), no idea what 6 is, 7 probably, 8 yes, 9 and 10 probably not, 11 (there's a big difference between IG and HOTU) no and yes respectively, 12 and 13 I can't say, 14-16 probably not.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
1,2 definetly, 3 possibly, 4 no, 5 possibly (but probably not), no idea what 6 is, 7 probably, 8 yes, 9 and 10 probably not, 11 (there's a big difference between IG and HOTU) no and yes respectively, 12 and 13 I can't say, 14-16 probably not.

Yea I know that there's a big difference between IG and HOTU, but since they aren't actual entities I just grouped them together.

And WPOTC is White Phoenix of the Crown

Originally posted by Omega Vision
1,2 definetly, 3 possibly, 4 no, 5 possibly (but probably not), no idea what 6 is, 7 probably, 8 yes, 9 and 10 probably not, 11 (there's a big difference between IG and HOTU) no and yes respectively, 12 and 13 I can't say, 14-16 probably not.
Beyonder defeats Sise just as easily as the supreme beings.
Molecule man should be able to do it as well. the rest I agree.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
4 no, 5 possibly (but probably not),

Pre Ret MM >>>> LT

Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Pre Ret MM >>>> LT
well said.

bump

At his most powerful he could only be stalemated by supreme beings.

Everyone else gets shit on.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
At his most powerful he could only be stalemated by supreme beings.

Everyone else gets shit on.

Would you mind listing which ones out of the people I posted either beat him or lose? The names I posted are from a list (made by a comicvine user called Tevnoba) of people that could supposedly all beat Sise-Neg at the height of his power.

TOAA, Presence, PR Beyonder, MoM, HotU and possibly GEB would all stalemate him.

The rest lose.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
TOAA, Presence, PR Beyonder, MoM, HotU and possibly GEB would all stalemate him.

The rest lose.

Thanks for the input.

Btw, aren't Multi-Eternity and Multi-Infinity just concepts? What's the difference between regular Eternity/Infinity and Multi-Eternity/Multi-Infinity?

The 'multi' is suppose to mean every version of each character from all the different universes.

Would COIE Anti-Monitor be able to defeat Sise-Neg in your guys' opinion?

No.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No.

That's what I thought, but others on the vine are giving me shit for saying Sise-Neg as Genesis wins.

He'd win easily.

TOAA - yes
Presence - yes
PR Beyonder - yes
PR MM - not sure
LT - no
WPOTC - no
World's Funniest Myx - depends
GEB - yes
Lucifer - no
Michael - no
Anyone with IG (no) or HOTU (yes)
Divine Spawn - no
MoM - yes
Multi-Eternity - no
Multi-Infinity - no
Death (Marvel or Endless) - no

What about the Primal Monitor?

TOAA - yes
Presence - yes
PR Beyonder - yes
PR MM -yes
current LT - yes
WPOTC - dunno
World's Funniest Myx - yes
GEB - yes
Lucifer - hmm yes
Michael - yes
Anyone with IG or HOTU, IG yes HOTU yes
Divine Spawn - dunno
MoM - dunno
Multi-Eternity - dunno
Multi-Infinity - dunno
Death (Marvel or Endless) - dunno
AM - yes
Parallax ZH - yes
Mandrakk - yes
CA Supes - yes

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
TOAA - yes
Presence - yes
PR Beyonder - yes
PR MM -yes
current LT - yes
WPOTC - dunno
World's Funniest Myx - yes
GEB - yes
Lucifer - hmm yes
Michael - yes
Anyone with IG or HOTU, IG yes HOTU yes
Divine Spawn - dunno
MoM - dunno
Multi-Eternity - dunno
Multi-Infinity - dunno
Death (Marvel or Endless) - dunno
AM - yes
Parallax ZH - yes
Mandrakk - yes
CA Supes - yes

This is a joke right?

Originally posted by CortSether
This is a joke right?

Hm, no.

what is HOTU?

Originally posted by omnidragon
what is HOTU?

Heart of the Universe.

Sise-Neg is "just" Universal IIRC. Anyone beyond that could and should beat him.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
TOAA - yes
Presence - yes
PR Beyonder - yes
PR MM -yes
current LT - yes
WPOTC - dunno
World's Funniest Myx - yes
GEB - yes
Lucifer - hmm yes
Michael - yes
Anyone with IG or HOTU, IG yes HOTU yes
Divine Spawn - dunno
MoM - dunno
Multi-Eternity - dunno
Multi-Infinity - dunno
Death (Marvel or Endless) - dunno
AM - yes
Parallax ZH - yes
Mandrakk - yes
CA Supes - yes
no.
Only MoM, TOAA, Presense, HOTI, MM, Beyonder and GEB can win.
Even LT will fall.

Originally posted by galactusischere
no.
Only MoM, TOAA, Presense, HOTI, MM, Beyonder and GEB can win.
Even LT will fall.

Hmm, since it seems you know him better. Was Genesis multiversal or was he the god of one Universe?

If he was "just" the god of the 616 he will lose. Multiversal he might stalemate most.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Hmm, since it seems you know him better. Was Genesis multiversal or was he the god of one Universe?

If he was "just" the god of the 616 he will lose. Multiversal he might stalemate most.
He was basically TOAA who EASILY banished Shuma.

Originally posted by galactusischere
He was basically TOAA who EASILY banished Shuma.

That's not what i asked you.
Was he the God of one Universe or the god of an Multiverse?

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
That's not what i asked you.
Was he the God of one Universe or the god of an Multiverse?

It's pretty clear that he's became GOD and was mutliversal, but if you go to comicvine they are pretty convince that he is only universal.

Originally posted by CortSether
It's pretty clear that he's became GOD and was mutliversal, but if you go to comicvine they are pretty convince that he is only universal.

Why is it clear? What was stated exactly, Universe or Multiverse. A lot of beings become "God" in comics.

Can you give me some scans, stating he is Multiversal? Or feats?

Sise-Neg said "This universe and beyond". He went back to the beginning of time and destroyed Earth 616 which, by extension, would destroy all the alternate realities that branch off the main universe.

So yes, Sise-Neg was multiversal.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Sise-Neg said "This universe and beyond". He went back to the beginning of time and destroyed Earth 616 which, by extension, would destroy all the alternate realities that branch off the main universe.

So yes, Sise-Neg was multiversal.
People are saying that feat isn`t multiversal in my IG vs CA thread.

Originally posted by galactusischere
People are saying that feat isn`t multiversal in my IG vs CA thread.

Ehhh by definition it technically isn't. To be multiversal, you have to be able to affect more than one multiverse. Sise-Neg destroyed and recreated all that was Marvel at the time, which was a multiverse and he became the supreme being of Marvel.