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A non-jobbing Apoc BTW who uses all of his powers.

Mongul without rings.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Mongul without rings.
I think he can do a little better than that.

Originally posted by galactusischere
I think he can do a little better than that.
So do I I'm just trying to think of one.
By beat do you mean take a majority over in a KMC setting or just a character that Apocalypse could in theory defeat?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
So do I I'm just trying to think of one.
By beat do you mean take a majority over in a KMC setting or just a character that Apocalypse could in theory defeat?
In comics but a non-jobbing Apoc.

He punked the Hulk pretty easily once.

Wonder Girl.
Namor.
Thing.
Conner Kent?

Originally posted by redhotrash
He punked the Hulk pretty easily once.
Yea, but note that was a Hulk that could't get any madder.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yea, but note that was a Hulk that could't get any madder.
Gray Hulk right?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Gray Hulk right? Green savage Hulk, who he only restrained.

I dont remember anything being different about that Hulk, but I wont swear on it. However I think against a standard Hulk he'd have a good chance of beating him before Hulk had a chance to really get amped. Apocalypse is supposed to have no real upper limit to his strength either, and is very versatile.
Oh, and with how hes been written lately, he can probably take Sentry lol

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Wonder Girl.
Namor.
Thing.
Conner Kent?
He has easily defeated Namor before.
Thing would be walk in a park for him.
WG would lose too.
Yea IMO CK would be one of the strongest people he can beat.

Originally posted by redhotrash
I dont remember anything being different about that Hulk, but I wont swear on it. However I think against a standard Hulk he'd have a good chance of beating him before Hulk had a chance to really get amped. Apocalypse is supposed to have no real upper limit to his strength either, and is very versatile.
Oh, and with how hes been written lately, he can probably take Sentry lol
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/14751/713452-_apocalypse_vs_hulk_super.jpg
this one you mean?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Gray Hulk right?
nah, the one I already showed to you during the WW vs Apoc debate.
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/14751/713452-_apocalypse_vs_hulk_super.jpg

Black Bolt. To hell with HoM crap
Pre-shaman X-Man.

I'd go with Ikaris or some of the weaker heralds.

Apocalypse would never ever be able to beat Blackbolt

Originally posted by redhotrash
Apocalypse would never ever be able to beat Blackbolt Yup, to hell w/ forum member opinions/views, this actually happened on panel

Originally posted by vansonbee
Yup, to hell w/ forum member opinions/views, this actually happened on panel
In a setting which has nothing to do with the Apocalypse we're using here.

Those of us who read some comics way back when remember that Black Bolt failed to do anything when Apocalypse enslaved his people.

Kurse? could Apoc rearrange his molecules to become iron?

Originally posted by galactusischere
A non-jobbing Apoc BTW who uses all of his powers.

I do believe that a non-jobbing, all powers used to his best, could take some wins, though not the majority against.

Superman
Thor


for example

You really think Apocalypse would survive a black bolt shout?

He could certainly whomp on jobberiffic Skrull WWH Black Bolt.

Originally posted by redhotrash
You really think Apocalypse would survive a black bolt shout? He has already...but I think it would be classified under "Spider-man vs Fire-Lord".

Originally posted by Lord S
He has already...but I think it would be classified under "Spider-man vs Fire-Lord".

Apocalypse and Black Bolt fight the same level opponents

How is that akin to a weak street-based opponent taking down a cosmic herald?

Apocalypse can beat a dumb Thor

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Apocalypse and Black Bolt fight the same level opponents

How is that akin to a weak street-based opponent taking down a cosmic herald?
Has this smiley replaced "x turns x into salt" argument as your catch phrase now?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Has this smiley replaced "x turns x into salt" argument as your catch phrase now?
I'll turn your catch phrase into salt.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
I'll turn your catch phrase into salt.
I don't think I have a catch phrase...yet.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Apocalypse and Black Bolt fight the same level opponents

How is that akin to a weak street-based opponent taking down a cosmic herald? His ability to be unfazed by a BB scream is what's in question. It's obviously hack-writing at it's most flagrant.

Originally posted by Lord S
His ability to be unfazed by a BB scream is what's in question. It's obviously hack-writing at it's most flagrant.
No..

Originally posted by The Nuul
Kurse? could Apoc rearrange his molecules to become iron?
Yes he can.
He has been shown the ability to change hes body parts to diffrent substances, and there was a time when he shot bullets from hes mouth.

Originally posted by Lord S
His ability to be unfazed by a BB scream is what's in question. It's obviously hack-writing at it's most flagrant.

Not hack writing, which would be something completely different.

It's just Black Bolt's powers being vastly underestimated.

Yes you're right...I've never really bothered to find out what it meant. I just thought it generally meant bad writing.