Northstar vs Quicksilver.
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rotiart
Northstar vs Pietro... however Pietro has his classic and current powers.. meaning he has his speed, reflexes and time travelling powers...
Personally I'd give the edge to Pietro...
carver9
northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.
Entity
When did he start to move at the speed of light???
manjaro
he's never actually moved at light speed on panel, but due to the nature of his powers he has the potential to. cuz he's not just some guy who can run and fly fast, as stated he can accelerate his molecules, but no matter how fast you are you cant beat someone who can time travel. case in point Wally vs Zoom
Validus
Originally posted by carver9
northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.
2000 mps is way faster than Mach 1.
rotiart
yah.. but you through in the timetravel...
King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
he's never actually moved at light speed on panel, but due to the nature of his powers he has the potential to.
Naaa...he did it recently against the X-Men
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg
Here's Aurora dodging multiple lightening bolts
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_18.jpg
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Aurora/Northstar respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423434&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1
The Pict
So northstar is bad now?
I get paid for the first time in 3 months on friday. I've got a lot of catching up to do on my comics firefirefireph
King_Mungi
Yes and no, he was killed and ressurected by the Hand and given an upgrade but brainwashed just like how Wolverine was. Then he was captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. to be reprogrammed to be a good guy, however, the Children of the Vault destroyed the S.H.I.E.L.D base and took Northstar in and gave him an upgrade and brainwashed him some more. Him and his sister, were both brain washed by this new group, but they are desperatly trying to break the control and return good.
The Pict
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Yes and no, he was manipulated by the Hand and given an upgrade but brainwashed just like how Wolverine was. Then he was captured by S.H.I.E.L.D. to be reprogrammed to be a good guy, however, the Children of the Vault destroyed the S.H.I.E.L.D base and took Northstar in and gave him an upgrade and brainwashed him some more. Him and his sister, were both brain washed by this new group, but they are desperatly trying to break the control and return good.
Ok thanks. I was only aware of that happening by the hand, cheers for the info.
rotiart
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaa...he did it recently against the X-Men
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/xmen190005qg7.jpg
Here's Aurora dodging multiple lightening bolts
1. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/Two-in-One084_18.jpg
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Aurora/Northstar respect thread: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=423434&perpage=20&highlight=&pagenumber=1
I'm sorry but i can't see the actual posts... so i can't see what its saying in pic 1.
pic 2... not sure either.. but i do have to say lightning bolts do not travel at the speed of light. they are stated as anywhere form 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of light... with the stated general speed as around 60000 miles per second still 60000 miles per second.. about just less then 1/3 the speed of light is pretty darn frigging fast...
King_Mungi
1. Northstar moved at the speed of light which mentions how fast the speed of light and then mentions how Cyclops visor is much slower so Northstar steps into the gap and redirects the blast
2. Their not the speed of light, just showing a speed feat that trumps anything Quicksilver has ever done. However, zig-zagging between them...major feat.
manjaro
oh yeah i forgot aboutt he cyclops thing...i guess you have to see the actual comic to make it out, but if yo ulook closrly you can just make him out as a barely visible blur
King_Mungi
Originally posted by manjaro
oh yeah i forgot aboutt he cyclops thing...i guess you have to see the actual comic to make it out, but if yo ulook closrly you can just make him out as a barely visible blur
Yep, I have the whole battle posted in the respect thread if anyone wants to see it.
batdude123
Originally posted by carver9
northstar easily. Quicksilver moves at the speed of sound. 2000 mps. Northstar moves at the speed of light 186000 mps.
hysterical2
2000 mps DOES NOT = the speed of sound
The speed of sound is roughly 750 mph, and 2000 mps is 7,200,000 mph
carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.
rotiart
Originally posted by carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.
question, i know exiles tends to use alternate realties... so... how does that fit in...?
Northstar is stating as having the potential to hit lightspeed.. but has not been shown beyond mach 10.
and the speed of sound is NOT 2000mps... there is no history on it. He's right its about 750 mph...The speed of sound is 344 m/s (1238 km/h or 770 mph). notice thats 344 meters per second, 1238 kilometers per hour or 770 miles per hour... these are speeds taken at sea level...
even if you were doing meters... as mps... you're off by almost 1700... m/s...
And now you know... and knowing is half the battle!
jesus.. didn't you take physics carver? cause it definitely looks like batdude did...
rotiart
roughly...
sound= 770 mph
light= 186000mps
lightning 60000mps (roughly though it does appear to be debated between 1/3 to 1/2 the speed of light)
big difference.. huge... gigantic...
carver9
thank you all for the info but was stating that qs moves at 2000 mps whereas northstar moves at 186000mps.
rotiart
Originally posted by carver9
thank you all for the info but was stating that qs moves at 2000 mps whereas northstar moves at 186000mps.
i really wish there wasn't a firewall that prevents me from seeing the above scans... i have no idea what those pictures show...
King_Mungi
Originally posted by rotiart
Northstar is stating as having the potential to hit lightspeed.. but has not been shown beyond mach 10.
Actually he has repeatedly, even posted two scans that are above mach 10, even light speed. Seriously go check the Northstar/Aurora respect thread.
King_Mungi
Originally posted by rotiart
i really wish there wasn't a firewall that prevents me from seeing the above scans... i have no idea what those pictures show...
First image is Northstar going lightspeed even stated in the captions as such
Second is Aurora dodging multiple lightening blasts, zig-zagging between them with ease
bigbran
Originally posted by carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem. You do realize that in a second, sound would travel 2000 miles in a second, on your logic?
So we have planes that break the speed barrier. That means they travel 2000 miles a second?
Wow, you learn something new everyday.
Also, someone needs to go and read something about the speed of sound.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_sound
First paragraph states the speed of sound is 770 MILES PER HOUR!!
*damnit, someone beat me to it*
Also Supes in the big wording in a panel, said he traveled to Saturn in a quite a minutes, which I forget what it was, but it equaled out to 21 x lightspeed.
Another case of Wizard being wrong.
rotiart
shrug... quicksilver timejumps into the future... gets a few atomic bombs... sets them all for timers of 1 second... travels back in time, scatters then about... and jumps back into the future... to avoid the blast
boom.
i'm just getting honestly tired of all these arguements that northstar can travel at lightspeed. if they did, then he is hands down the strongest member of alpha flight.
King_Mungi
Highly unlikely
He did, I even provided the scan he did it in. Actually Guardian can go faster than light, even went so fast he himself traveled 5,000 years into the past
rotiart
oh so guardian is the flash of marvel universe... jeez.. i always woulda thought it woulda gone to makkari or the runner...
King_Mungi
Naaaa..he only did it once and he had no choice. Runner is still the cloest match
bigbran
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Naaaa..he only did it once and he had no choice. Runner is still the cloest match I'de say Surfer actually.
Surfer can go warp speed.
He went half a million miles in a couple seconds or close to that.
King_Mungi
Originally posted by bigbran
I'de say Surfer actually.
Surfer can go warp speed.
He went half a million miles in a couple seconds or close to that.
Well Runner showed he was faster and stronger when he battled Silver Surfer and he runs instead of glides on his board.
bigbran
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Well Runner showed he was faster and stronger when he battled Silver Surfer and he runs instead of glides on his board. Once. Surfer was also distracted by his likable abilities. I'de say Surfer could kick his ass, if he wasn't affected by Runner's powers.
Also what are Runner's speed feats beside that?
King_Mungi
Originally posted by bigbran
Once. Surfer was also distracted by his likable abilities. I'de say Surfer could kick his ass, if he wasn't affected by Runner's powers.
Also what are Runner's speed feats beside that?
Speed blizing Thanos when he had the space gem, I think there is a runner respect thread on here. He definetly is stronger than SS, SS even admited he was faster.
King_Mungi
Originally posted by rotiart
i really wish there wasn't a firewall that prevents me from seeing the above scans... i have no idea what those pictures show...
Here is an indepth bio about Northstar abilities:
1. http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Northstar
StiltmanFTW
bump
Northstar was recently called the fastest man alive in Astonishing.
DarkSaint85
Shit, just saw carver believing that Superman moves at 2000mps. ...
PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by carver9
Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps.
I'm saving this quote.
celeyhyga17
Makkari games both these feebs..
zopzop
Assuming Current Northstar is just as powerful and fast as Classic Northstar AND Current Quicksilver is as fast and powerful as Classic Quicksilver, he should stomp.
Not only is he faster than Quicksilver, he can FLY.
Scoobless
Current QS is a lot faster than old school QS.
PillarofOsiris
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Shit, just saw carver believing that Superman moves at 2000mps. ...
The best part is his source.
Mindset
Originally posted by Scoobless
Current QS is a lot faster than old school QS. And he wins.
-K-M-
Northstar
Even if you feel their speeds are comparable, Northstar has other abilities such as flight, bio-shielsd and flashbang that would give him the nod.
Also apparently super-strength
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/X-Men-Zone-017.jpg
Mindset
QS has other abilities too such as not being Canadian.
So, QS 10/10.
celeyhyga17
Originally posted by Mindset
QS has other abilities too such as not being Canadian.
So, QS 10/10.
Well played....
-K-M-
They made Northstar Flash-like now...not really a fan of that
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AstonishingX-Men060-004_zps28492bcb.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AstonishingX-Men060-005_zpse6df9775.jpg
He put holes into beings that Wolverine's claws did barely nothing too.

pym-ftw
Originally posted by pym-ftw
JP stomps
This handsome poster is right

Mindset
NS will be dead before he can even pull his tongue out of Wolverine's ass.
-K-M-
Originally posted by Mindset
NS will be dead before he can even pull his tongue out of Wolverine's ass.
Shows what you know, Wolverine's busy with another guy
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/o-WOLVERINE-HERCULES_zps34e77bd1.jpg
Mindset
Like one man could fulfill all of Wolverine's needs.
Even on kmc he had 3 lovers.
Raisen
Originally posted by carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.
what does history have to do with speed?
curryman
Originally posted by -K-M-
They made Northstar Flash-like now...not really a fan of that
1. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AstonishingX-Men060-004_zps28492bcb.jpg
2. http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/AstonishingX-Men060-005_zpse6df9775.jpg
He put holes into beings that Wolverine's claws did barely nothing too.
But wasnt it great when he hammered Sabretooth into oblivion a few years back?
-Pr-
Originally posted by Raisen
what does history have to do with speed?
**** you for making me think he posted that recently.
-K-M-
Originally posted by curryman
But wasnt it great when he hammered Sabretooth into oblivion a few years back?
It was nice payback for what he did to Aurora, who I personally think is a better character then her brother.
curryman
Originally posted by -K-M-
It was nice payback for what he did to Aurora, who I personally think is a better character then her brother.
That is some crazy homophobia bro.
-K-M-
Eh? No I just find Northstar a rip off Quicksilver in personality, Aurora is far more unique and even had powers beside super speed.
JakeTheBank
Originally posted by -K-M-
Shows what you know, Wolverine's busy with another guy
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j165/A_Flight10/o-WOLVERINE-HERCULES_zps34e77bd1.jpg
wat
Where is this from?
753
exiles vol 2. Gayverine is glorious!
from that picture it stands to reason that hercules is the bottom in their dynamics. did you notice that, mindset?
DarkSaint85
Originally posted by carver9
speed of sound is 2000 mps someone need to some more history. Speed of sound start at 2000 mps and again northstar moves easily at the speed of light with no fatigue, he does it all the time, with no problem and mimic has a piece of northstar powers and he can only use 50% of the powers that he get. It was stated in the exiles book when mimic fought hyperion that he moves half the speed of light which is 93000 mps. Oh and by the way, with all you people using superman strength in battles, I have a wizard that shows superman top speed and it states that he move only at 2000 mps. If he fought someone like mimic or northstar or flash they would dodge him all day, with no problem.
Never forget.
juggernaut74
How fast is Quicksilver nowadays?
celeyhyga17
Originally posted by juggernaut74
How fast is Quicksilver nowadays?
Not sure anymore. I thought it was stated that he was outracing radio waves, but Sin said it's been debunked..
shrug
Werewolf582
Northstar with ease
zopzop
Northstar should annihilate him.
Even before K-M-/Munji put me on to Alpha Flight, I liked Northstar and his sister (more Northstar though) and respected his speed/power.
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